On a flat serve he was hitting down on the ball but on a topspin serve he was hitting on the side of the ball. The ball kicked a little on the topspin serve.:)(:
I found alot of this serve has to do with where you toss it. You can almost make the same movement, but it depends where your catches it in relation to the toss. The flat serve is somewhat infront of you to the right and the kick is almost behind and to the left. Try it out.
I don't care, I'm sticking with my flat spin serve... When I put top spin on it I either get control or speed. With my flat spin serve I can get both speed and control.
Huh? I only own 2 rackets, most of the time I just loan it to someone if we want to play on a wim. Or I use my spare if I break a string on my normal racket.
Hmmm I wanna point out that you're not looking for speed on a second serve; flattish serves are easy to return when you get a racket on the ball because they're predictable. That's pretty much the main reason why Roddick isn't as dominant a player as he should be.
If you learn how to hit a topspin or slice serve, the ball has a different kind of action on it that's difficult to predict, depending on how much spin it has.
Lol it's not hard to hit a fast serve if you know it's going to be flat... The reason fast serves end up being aces a lot of the time is that people are expecting kicks or slices instead.
I'm curious about something, but I don't know if you can answer this for me.
I know that topspin will make a ball drop sooner due to the Magnus effect on the ball, but does it make the ball drop "faster?" I always thought that all things dropped at a uniform speed due to gravity, so does a topspin ball drop "faster?" Or at the same speed as a flat ball?
I am not really a tennis pro, but when I looked carefully at his serves did you notice that the topspin "seemed" to curve in to make it stop quicker? Not quicker by speed but quicker by distance. I am only guessing, if you want to be sure than ask the pro himself, I can only tell you what I think.
Well, from what I've read, I know a topspin ball slows down as it moves through the air due to air friction, so I'm assuming that, since that ball is moving slower, it drops sooner since gravity has more time to act on it before it travels further. What I want to know is if balls drop FASTER due to topspin.
It's more of a trivia question than anything else.
In my opinion if you have never seen the topspin it will only seem fasater because you were expecting the ball to fall ot but then it suddenly curved down thus making it seem as though the ball had dropped "faster."
It makes it so that you are able to put more force into the ball. It makes it so that a fast ball can clear the net and stay in as opposed to a similarly fast flat ball, which would go out.
good video, the thing that a lot of people do when trying to hit a topspin serve is they open their body the same as they do for a flat serve. This video is really good at showing the differences
Flat serve is faster. Generally used as a first serve to get aces. Topspin serve has more margin for error because it clears the net at a higher level. It is generally used as a second serve. Club players often don't know the topspin serve so they whack the first serve and tap the second one to make sure it goes in. The topspin serve is also often used in doubles as a first serve because it gives the server more time to get to the net.
prince graphite racket for the win
bugabutu 1 year ago
wow dude your very good
terryschutte 1 year ago
In order to hit a top spin serve or kick serve..he should of changed his grip. He was hitting a slice not a top spin serve.
jakechauret 2 years ago
for people who didnt get it, watch it again, but this time, focus on the sound.
Close your eyes and listen...
can you hear the flat serve?
Now watch it again and follow the head of the racquet
ThirdDrunkDog 2 years ago 2
i hit hard flat serves i dont know if i add topspin on it ???
FuzyConker 2 years ago
@FuzyConker just watch how the ball reacts...if it kicks up, then there is some action on the ball...
konvictz0007 1 year ago
so slow!
almeidajamie 2 years ago
ow you're so boastful don't even have a video of your crappy serve
polipoli7 2 years ago
I use the top spin serve as a second serve
RcGuitarHeli 2 years ago
Thanks for all these fabolous tennis videos!
mksander 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
dude tat was a foot fault by the way
naykool 3 years ago
Thank you Tomaz. Very good. I watched this video 10000 times.
robasvin 3 years ago
On a flat serve he was hitting down on the ball but on a topspin serve he was hitting on the side of the ball. The ball kicked a little on the topspin serve.:)(:
camweezy5 3 years ago
1. flat goes forehand, topspin goes backhand[ACCORDING TO WHAT HE DID ;D]
but in reality
2.Flat = small bounce, Topspin = jumpy
MangoPEELS 3 years ago 4
depends. flat is usually really heavy and powerful. a topspin serve can be jumpy, or be used to help the ball sink for those of us shorter players.
gameplay0 3 years ago 2
I do a hard flat body serve
mmike01 3 years ago
me too, but i really wanna change it
KA5H24 3 years ago
Thanks For Uploading its cool and u have edited it Very god
Baseline2008 3 years ago
i do side spin serves
kidzranqefan 3 years ago
i am afraid to do a top spin serve because it dirves the ball random directions.
moksyb 4 years ago
i agree plus i spin too early and goes right in the net..
xoxotennisQT 3 years ago
I found alot of this serve has to do with where you toss it. You can almost make the same movement, but it depends where your catches it in relation to the toss. The flat serve is somewhat infront of you to the right and the kick is almost behind and to the left. Try it out.
ztevo 4 years ago
I have a flat serve :( I'm trying to make it have more topspin
artdamage 4 years ago
I don't care, I'm sticking with my flat spin serve... When I put top spin on it I either get control or speed. With my flat spin serve I can get both speed and control.
BigStupidFingers 4 years ago
I do too, but I would want my serves to be mroe difficult to get
artdamage 4 years ago
Lol you're hilarious... I suppose you also have two different rackets with which to change your game... Because you're that good right?
fulmoon1991 3 years ago
Huh? I only own 2 rackets, most of the time I just loan it to someone if we want to play on a wim. Or I use my spare if I break a string on my normal racket.
BigStupidFingers 3 years ago
Hmmm I wanna point out that you're not looking for speed on a second serve; flattish serves are easy to return when you get a racket on the ball because they're predictable. That's pretty much the main reason why Roddick isn't as dominant a player as he should be.
If you learn how to hit a topspin or slice serve, the ball has a different kind of action on it that's difficult to predict, depending on how much spin it has.
kenufeelthamusic 3 years ago
Lol it's not hard to hit a fast serve if you know it's going to be flat... The reason fast serves end up being aces a lot of the time is that people are expecting kicks or slices instead.
mandron 3 years ago
Do you pronate on your flat serve?
yoimcrazy 4 years ago
You pronate on every serve.
Koaske 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
EEUU= idiot !!!!!!!!!!
midpod 4 years ago
I'm curious about something, but I don't know if you can answer this for me.
I know that topspin will make a ball drop sooner due to the Magnus effect on the ball, but does it make the ball drop "faster?" I always thought that all things dropped at a uniform speed due to gravity, so does a topspin ball drop "faster?" Or at the same speed as a flat ball?
siegeperilous 4 years ago
I am not really a tennis pro, but when I looked carefully at his serves did you notice that the topspin "seemed" to curve in to make it stop quicker? Not quicker by speed but quicker by distance. I am only guessing, if you want to be sure than ask the pro himself, I can only tell you what I think.
track818 4 years ago
Thanks for the response...
Well, from what I've read, I know a topspin ball slows down as it moves through the air due to air friction, so I'm assuming that, since that ball is moving slower, it drops sooner since gravity has more time to act on it before it travels further. What I want to know is if balls drop FASTER due to topspin.
It's more of a trivia question than anything else.
siegeperilous 4 years ago
In my opinion if you have never seen the topspin it will only seem fasater because you were expecting the ball to fall ot but then it suddenly curved down thus making it seem as though the ball had dropped "faster."
track818 4 years ago
It makes it so that you are able to put more force into the ball. It makes it so that a fast ball can clear the net and stay in as opposed to a similarly fast flat ball, which would go out.
airez2 4 years ago
siegeperilous:
It drops faster because of the pressure differential. Top spin adds a force pointing downards.
I'm afraid your interpretation below, about 'gravity has more time to act' is also wrong.
tafder 4 years ago
I know this is weird, but I love the sound of the flat serve :) Lol
pandapinay101 4 years ago
so do I
derhundchen 4 years ago
r u the famous tomaz muster? one who played years ago and won the french open a few times
zcarenow 4 years ago
so only two types of serves? i thought there was another kind of serve
zcarenow 4 years ago
there are also slice and twist serves, but the video lessons here are just about those
60billionman 4 years ago
wow nice serve what racket do you use?
AvgHunter 4 years ago
How tall are you Mr. Mindgame? Just out of curiosity.
JewJewB 4 years ago
180 cm and my name is Tomaz. ;)
TennisMindGame 4 years ago
i was just wondering... by any chance, will you teach us how to do a spin serve?
icysnowberry 4 years ago
Go to my website and under Instruction section you will find an article for the top spin serve.
TennisMindGame 4 years ago
good video, the thing that a lot of people do when trying to hit a topspin serve is they open their body the same as they do for a flat serve. This video is really good at showing the differences
Ntour 4 years ago
Amateur question....what are the advantages/disadvantages of each type of serve? Is either one better than the other, in your opinion?
Italianstud9 4 years ago
Flat serve is faster. Generally used as a first serve to get aces. Topspin serve has more margin for error because it clears the net at a higher level. It is generally used as a second serve. Club players often don't know the topspin serve so they whack the first serve and tap the second one to make sure it goes in. The topspin serve is also often used in doubles as a first serve because it gives the server more time to get to the net.
smithcook 4 years ago