Ukrainian Byzantine Catholic Church Joined the Sedevacantist Movement

[celticcelticwger066]

Great consolation that the satanic popes since 1958 are identified and shunned.

Even as a small child I suffered much from the evil that invaded the catholic church after the communist was (not) elected in 1958.

Vive l'eglise Orthodox!

[mosesmoses2000]

12 Things We Are and Havee In Christ!!

1. I am a New Creation. 2 Cor. 5:17. 2. I am Delivered. Col. 1:13. 3. I am Righteous. 2 Cor 5:21. 4. I am Sanctified. Heb. 10:14 5. I have Boldness, Access. Eph. 2:18, 3:12. 6. I have Eternal Life. John 3:36. 7. Always Triumph. 2 Cor. 2:14 8. Can do all things in Christ. Phil 4:13. 9. Christ, my wisdom. 1 Cor 1:30. 10. Blessed with all Blessings. Eph 1:3 11. Needs met by God. Phil 4:19.

12. Have Freedom. Rom. 8:2.

[rebelstar22]

Question, are there many Bishops supporting the Patriarch's position? And is the term Patriarch recognized to be an elected Pope or simply a leader in the movement?

[MrUbipetrus]

If these clerics were formerly of the Eastern Uniate Church before their sede vacante discovery, then congratulations and they need to hook up with all other clerics here in the Western Rite who have also made the same discovery. But if they are mere Greek or Russion (or whatever) East Orthodox, then they need to recognize the validity of the doctrine of the Papacy, for how can the Vatican leadership be faulted for failing to live up to the standard (of the papacy) unless that standard is real?

[hglundahl]

I gather it, 10wise virgins (in the gospel story there were five wise and five foolish, why 10 wise?) you are not a fan of evolution theory.

Therefore, obviously, you are not the Ukrainean who helped spam my guestbook. But you could have an interest in my Creationist blog. I had claimed (aitch-tee-tee-pee)o-x(dot)fr(­slash)hspi that chromosome numbers make evolution scientifically impossible when it comes to mammals. I debated on the blog of a sacrilegious evolutionist (same-url-service)30jp !

[10WiseVirgins]

@hglundahl Excuse me? Why do you limit in your understanding what is said: ‘10WiseVirgins ‘ meant keeping 10 Commandments, 5WiseVirgins are originated from 10 Commandments. 5 fool /virgins?/...welllll..sound that they are pure only in body not in soul, as many 'Orthodox' are...

[hglundahl]

@10WiseVirgins Excuse my ignorance, I thought it was from the parable about the 5 wise and five foolish virgins! The ones who waited for the bridegroom, and the foolish lacked oil for the lamps. I had no idea it was about the ten commandments!

Merry Christmas. I have sent to Rome and to FSSPX an invitation to use neither Vatican II nor recent syllabus' of errors as common base for negociations, but the 219 condemnations by Étienne Tempier, Paris, laetare sunday 1277.

[hglundahl]

@10WiseVirgins As for the text of my invitation, it is on a blog with url triv7quadriv (abbreviation for trivium et quadrivium) (dot) blogspot (dot) com, and the title (in French) is Les Jeans de PRÉSENT: Madiran, oui, Cochet, non. In the comments I gave the book of philosophic history where the 219 condemnations are found in Latin with French translation. (Sometimes the French translation is wrong, because D. Piché did not quite understand Bishop Tempier).

[brndurham]

If the point of Vatican ii was to destroy the church, then why did pope benedict bring back the tridentine mass? If he was truly out for the destruction of the church, wouldn't he have left things the way they were? Unless.. Oh! He wasn't out to destroy the church! You see, however much 'ecumenism' has gone one, the pope has never made an ex-cathedra statement with all the other bishops that was heretical! The Magisterium lives on!

[10WiseVirgins]

@brndurham Benedict never ‘brought’ the canonized Mass back. The canonized Mass of St. Pius V is banned under the penalty of excommunication.

(direct harassment , that is. V2 does’t have excommunication canon).

If you are coming here to lie and twist the facts-

You will be blocked. Motu mass of B16 IS NOT the canonized Latin Mass!It is the same sacrilegious invalid Novus Ordo in Latin.

[hglundahl]

@10WiseVirgins Sorry, it is not. The Rite of Paul VI exists in Latin too, but is not referred to as "extraordinary form". I happen to know, since LeBarroux (using MotuProprio licence) printed the Missals that are used by Mgr Lefebvre's followers when assisting Mass in St Nicolas du Chardonnet.

However, Benedict XVI has not distanced himself from Assisi meetings, nor from Gaudium et Spes (see section 30 for some dirty stuff!) ... he wants people to love the Latin Mass, but accept the rest.

[ninjaonline]

@10WiseVirgins would you like to explain what the difference is between the Holy Mass of the 1962 Missale Romanum and the Mass of St Pius V. I would very greatly appreciate it.

[10WiseVirgins]

@ninjaonline No. you are not wrong. Some editions of 1962 are preserved . All editions of 1950-60s are authentic canonized Mass.

[10WiseVirgins]

@ninjaonline Altered Mass by Paul VI in 1966:

1.Psalm 42 is missing.

2.All benedictions of the priest are missing

3.Last Gospel is missing

4.All classical translations are altered.

Altered Mass by JP2, 1983

This is entirely a new content.

Not a single line is canonical.

[ninjaonline]

@10WiseVirgins I have a Missal that was written in 1957 and when I compare the two I don't see difference. I might be wrong as "I know" there IS a difference but I am not exactly sure of what exactly. Can you please explain the great difference? thank you

[10WiseVirgins]

@ninjaonline Why don’t you order both editions (revised by Paul VI “New…Saint Joseph Daily Missal, published by ‘Catholic Book’, 1966, and Saint Joseph Daily Missal, published by Catholic Book’1954-59) ? You can find both editions on Amazon.

Compare them and you see the difference for yourself!

[stevenzize]

The Roman Catholic Church is still one and the same with the Orthodox Catholics. Shame on us to say Catholics if we quarrel and accuse each other as Anti-Christ or devils and yet we believe in the the Lord Jesus Christ! It is not us who will judge, it is only God! Don't be self righteous my Orthodox brothers and sisters! it is easy to destroy or curse but it is not easy to care!

[ukerkater]

cont.BTW what Orthodox mistakes are you referring to that we have not taken responsibility for? RC's moving pedophile priests and bishops from diocese to diocese is "public and heroic"?

[10WiseVirgins]

@ukerkater Excuse me, what is your IQ score? Here we prove that Vatican II, which you described, is NOT the Roman Catholic Church!I am going to block you. You are another retarded idiot who has no right to speak in public.

[dcrippen2000]

@10WiseVirgins And they'll knowwww we are Christians by our Love.. By our Love.. Yes they'll knowwwww we are Christians by our Love :D .....

[10WiseVirgins]

@KingdomOfBalmex WAS? He is so far THE ONLY BISHOP WHO DOES HIS WORK as a TRUE apostle of the Lord!

[10WiseVirgins]

@KingdomOfBalmex Catholic Faith? and who is talking about' Catholic faith?' Those who worship with Voodoo witches, Muslim sorcerers, Jewish demons? Ask our Lord Christ where you are- even dogs make more sense than 'Catholics' like you!

[10WiseVirgins]

@wolf77s you are a camel-I say. it is that kind of declaration you do.

[10WiseVirgins]

Vatican II heretics, you will not annoy us with your presence, for you are OUTSIDE the Holy Roman Catholic Church damned to hell [with your pseudo-popes], unless you are converted to the true teaching of the RCC. Heretics are ipso facto in hell not in God’s Kingdom [which is RCC]

[10WiseVirgins]

Patriarch Elias was ordained as a Catholic priest in Roman Catholic Diocese of Litoměřice in Czechoslovakia.I understand it was a monastic order , and then was elevated in Greek-Catholic Order of Saint Basil the Great . Then he struggled fighting Vatican 2 heresies. He ordained bishops with no mandates, and exposed a heretic criminal Cardinal Huzar, who was abdicated last year. We will wait until he will reveal his story in full.

[johnross12]

The Orthodox are the original sedevacantists.

[ukerkater]

@johnross12 We Orthodox have nothing to do with the problems that the Roman Papacy has brought upon itself. Sedevacantism is simply a relatively modern movement where some Roman Catholics are realizing that the decrees, policies and innovations of the Roman Pope are dubious. It is an internal problem of Catholicism. Four of the 5 original Patriarchs continue to work cooperatively for the Church ---Rome has strayed far from where it was prior to 1054.

[10WiseVirgins]

@ukerkater All is a delusional statement . I presented all facts that Orthodox EC all are in World Council of Churches, working closely in ‘ecumenic’ efforts. You are just playing an ostrich policy.

We ,Catholics, point out our mistakes, guilt personal or in the Church publicly and heroically, you Eastern O only cover them up!

[ukerkater]

@10WiseVirgins What is delusional about my statement? I am simply saying that Rome must look to itself to see why these splits are occuring. You are quite off the mark if you are implying that somehow a reunion with Rome is on the horizon simply because there are Orthodox representatives in the WCC. Dialogue is quite a different thing than a desire for Ecumenical unity.

[Search4diabetescure]

@johnross12 - The Orthodox have been exchanges smooches with Pope John Paul II, and Benedict XVI. There is a great deal of Fraternal Love exhibited these days.

[MrAnatolius]

This is nor a video of Ukrainian Greek-Catholic Church, this people are out of communion with Catholic Church!!!

[10WiseVirgins]

@MrAnatolius says who? you ex-cathedra? He is an Archbishop with jurisdiction and canon law to do anything accordingly. He excommunicated all heretics, and he will do it to b16 too. Wait and see...It is you who are not Catholic, not them.

[smurray36]

10wisevirgins, there are sedevacantist chapels in Florida, Bp. Sanborn has a seminary in Brooksville FL.

[FolkMusicFanatic]

I like the Eastern Catholic Churches too (as much as the Dominican Rite in the Roman Catholic Church). They have some guts to oppose Vatican II. I will never attend novus ordo again. Either Dominican Rite, Tridentine Mass, or Eastern Catholic Churches.

[10WiseVirgins]

@FolkMusicFanatic excuse me? The point is that there are Sedevacantist churches who are OUT of Vatican II. Find CMRI church around you and attend the Mass, or you will lose your Faith.

[FolkMusicFanatic]

@10WiseVirgins : There are no CMRI chapels in Florida.

[10WiseVirgins]

@FolkMusicFanatic Contact them and ask them what to do.Do not rely on your cammon sense.You have to be directed by a priest.

[aburke673]

Great News. Roncalli is the smoke of satan and Paul VI is the anti christ. New mass is invalid blasphemy and non catholics do not have religous liberty. Pope Pius X suspected Roncalli who was friends with Rudolph Steiner of being a modernist heretic in 1913. All who elevated the heretic Roncalli after 1913 are themselves subject to censure up to and including excommunication. Zacharius 11 verse 8 tells us the Lord shall remove 3 shepards in one month. Roncalli and Montini were never pope

[stewartburchardjohn]

We have been sede vacante since Oct 29 1951. Roncalli was suspected of modernist heresy since 1913. All who elevated the heretic smoke of Satan anti pope are subject to censure up to and including excommunication. Usurper Paul VI is the anti christ.

[10WiseVirgins]

Viva Sanctus Vatican!

Now- I call this: 'The Gates of Hell Shall Not Prevail it"!!!!

[thatjohn22]

We have a heretic who heads a counterfeit church in Rome. A heretic is not part of the body of Christ His Church and certainly can not be its head. We have an Antichrist in Rome. Who does not believe that one needs to be baptized in order to be saved. He believes the Jews do not need to know Christ and be baptized. He is Antichrist and a usurper of the Chair of Peter. Pray that God send us a true Shepard to guide the Church. In the meantime we must keep away from apostate Rome!

[SAYYOURROSARY]

@thatjohn22 You said it perfectly ! Benedick 16 is a vile modernist . He was FORMALLY ACCUSED of modernism by Pope Pius XII and has never cleared his name as the New 0rder took over so he did not need to prove he was not a modernist . Benedick was also a Nazi . If he were Catholic the media would play this up .

Most New 0der katholicks don't even know this stuff . May God have mercy on their souls for being luke warm

[WeenisLad]

Come to Constantinople. It's reasonably saner over here.

[10WiseVirgins]

@WeenisLad Don't be ridiculous . Don’t you know your ‘Patriarch’ is a freemason IN THE WORLD CHURCH COUNCIL AND VATICAN II?

[aburke673]

Sede Vacante!!!!!!! We must stand behind our clergy against the anti christ novus ordo invalid sect of anti christ satanists, freemasons communists, modernists.