The problem with all these videos about balck pharaos, is that even though they say a truth that was by and large ignored by Europeans, ie, that there were black pharaos in Nubia, they seem to place an unnnatural emphasis on "race": "race" is a social construct invented by Europeans to dominate other people, therefore having African persons saying they're proud of being black would be just like a European saying he's proud of being white. What's the point? It's playing into the Europeans' trap.
well they tested dna from ancient egyptions, they were rn1, thats european genes... i guess that closes the discussion. i think its better to trust dna then pictures or nose sizes...
Hey guys if you want accurate scientific data on the ancient egyptians check this link out. It contains quotes from many recent books and journals on the topic. This is only if you're looking for true data that reflects resent research. Simply type this into the google search bar:
Hey check this out. The University of Cambridge recently dedicated scholarly backing of an African-centered Egypt & Nubia. They have a virtual museum where you can take a virtual tour and everything. Check it out. Just google "Fitzwilliam Museum Virtual Kemet". To all the unbelievers out there who can't accept the scientifically accepted facts about the Black African origins of Egypt AND Nubia, I wish you much luck challenging the #1 ranked University in the World, The University of Cambridge.
@SundiataOfMali The ancient Egyptians were not Caucasoid. Other ancient Egyptian practices show strong similarities to modern African cultures including divine kingship, the use of headrests, body art, circumcision, and male coming-of-age rituals, all suggesting an African substratum or foundation for Egyptian civilization.. "
Source: Donald Redford (2001) The Oxford encyclopedia of ancient Egypt,Volume 3. Oxford University Press. p. 28
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This a good video Nubia was great Empire so great Nubia was mention in the bible, not only that they restore Egypt back to there former glory Ruled a empire reach all the way to Egypt to Palestine, Egypt and Nubia and Axum those are one of Great African empire came out Africa and the world, Great video Bruh
archaeologist find out that lack of resource Nubia start it to decline they find out Axum did invaded burn down the city of meroe, Lost there control of Nubia in time Muslim invasion of Egypt, Makura rose in the time medieval period two other Kingdom rose in Nubia as well Nobatia and Alodia
That's debatable because this so called invasion comes from King Ezana's records and not from the archeological evidence. The archeological shows that the kingdom of Kush faded due to economical reasons. The kingdom lasted close to the middle ages and the kushites never skipped a beat with the birth of other kushites kingdoms.
axumites did conquer the Nubian, King Ezana was the First Christians emperor he was the person who conquer Nubia it became apart of the Axumites Empire that when Nubia was weak.
You’re right and you’re wrong. The askumites never had a direct form on imperial dominance on the kushites. With the decline of the Kushite Empire, the Aksum Empire took control of their trading post cities and they were able to impose an economical and political control of their kingdom. There was never direct military force dominance imposed on them. Otherwise, how can we explain other kushites kingdoms like Makuria?
ethnocentric think if you don't have Negroid Feature your not Black, I think that is stupid not all African and African american look a like, we all come different shape size different feature different shade of color.
The period when sub-Saharan Africa was most influential in Egypt was a time when neither Egypt, as we understand it culturally, nor the Sahara, as we understand it geographically, existed. Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north. The culture of Upper Egypt, which became dynastic Egyptian civilization, could fairly be called a Sudanese transplant Site : Peopling of the Nile Valley :a survey of mainstream of archaeology and anthropology research
You should go read what you wrote because you tried to infer that I was claiming that the ancient Egyptians were “pure”. Let me this right…being Negroid means a “blacks from Africa”. Therefore, blacks living or born outside of Africa are not Negroid? What does it mean to be Black? Cleary the aboriginals have Negroid features but they are more genetically related to Asians.
@blackhaze21 Being Negroid means that you are a direct descendant of blacks from Africa. Just because I was born and raised in the US, doesn't mean that I cease to be racially Japanese. Culturally in the US at least, when we say someone is a black person, we all know it means that his/her ancestry traces back to black Africans. But in Australia, they refer to the Aborigines as "blacks." Not sure what they call Negroid peoples, but surely they make a distinction between them and Aboriginals.
According to your definition of Negroid, anyone with “black African” ancestry is black. Therefore, according to your own definition, the ancient Egyptians are Negroid because they are known to have black African DNA coming from the south. Not to mention, everyone on this planet has African DNA. Are you being serious?
@blackhaze21 Use syllogistic reasoning to examine my statement. I said "being Negroid means you are a direct descendant of Blacks from Africa." However, it doesn't mean that all descendants of black Africans are necessarily classified as Negroid. And that is the essence of the debate around your black/Negroid Egypt claim. Let's say the Dynastic Egyptians had, on average, 5% black African genes. But the other 95% were a mixture of Eurasian, Arab, etc. Would you still claim them as black?
You have no logic and you contradicted yourself. You said that being Negroid means “you are direct descendant of Blacks from Africa. However, it doesn't mean that all descendants of black Africans are necessarily classified as Negroid” Your definition is clearly arbitrary and you make no sense.
@blackhaze21 Philosophy & Logic 101: 1) All Negroids are direct descendants of black Africans. 2) However, not all descendants of black Africans are classified as Negroid. 3) Therefore, some descendants of black Africans are classified as Negroid, some are not. A good example would be Bruce Lee. He was 3/4 Chinese, 1/4 German. Now, would you classify Bruce Lee as a white man? Did he think of himself as white, or Chinese? How does the world identify him? What race does he represent?
I tolerated you ignorance, foolishness, and racial innuendo but your faulty logic I cannot. I won’t entertain you any longer. I think any fair minded individual person reading can see how ridiculous you are. Thanks for playing for though.
@blackhaze21 I asked Takfam07 a question below. I wanted to hear his answer. But he sent me a message on my profile saying you blocked. him. So I want you to know something. I'm black. I see your debate with Takfam07. He had perfect syllogistic reasoning. I studied philosophy at Harvard, I know. But you lost your nerve and blocked him. Listen--blacks want the truth about who we are. Then we need the courage to debate, not run away. Why do to others what we're saying was done to us?
_ Syllogistic from the GREEK WORD ''''SYLLOGISMOS''' defined as -- syn- "together" + logizesthai "to reason, count," from logos "a reckoning, reason."
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Notice that TAKFAM07 has not used logic or reasoning, because ''negro'' is a Spanish word meaning ''BLACK'', and then he goes on to say that not all Black are not Negros. Yet science of DNA say that all people they are descendant of Blacks. His conclusion is illogical fallacy based.
@takfam07 As a black man, I understand your reasoning and agree with your statement. But identity politics is a tough thing. Bruce Lee is a clever example but may not apply because ethnically/culturally/physically he was Chinese. But in the modern black world, even a hint of black usually means someone's considered black. Goes back to the Southern segregationist one-drop rule. Do you have any evidence of how Egyptians viewed blackness? Did they describe themselves as black?
@Africanlongdrop, If you need evidence then look at QUEEN TIYE, she was the mother of Ankenaten, whom inturn was the father of King Tutankhamun ''TUT. Do you also need UNESCO SYMPOSIUM REPORT? I have it.
@Africanlongdrop Shoqana.. 'Do you have any evidence of how Egyptians viewed blackness? Did they describe themselves as black?'.. I do Series of Lessons and Questions concerning Ku-Kongo, Ba-Kongo-Beto and Ourstory. Ba-Kuma [A.Egyptians] no doubt Overstood who They were. For detailed information pertaining to the Question, specific Lessons answering this are 401, 402, 403 [language], and Question #6. In viewing these, what I call the 'inarguable argument' of Their Race will deem irrelevant.
@blackhaze21 Overstood. I extend My fullest appreciation to you and others in this mission of Psychological Liberation for Our People. The amaLoya Ba-Khulu speak through voices such as yours.. and They left every key We would need for the efforts We chose to partake. Continue your attempts diligently, Ndugu Mume..
What hurts blacks most today is the introduced ideology of "cultural relativism," that all cultures are inherently equal, so any unequal outcomes are the result of racism, discrimination, etc. This is why blacks stay mired in victim ideology, and regard objective truth as "white thinking." And since they cannot accept that African culture was hugely underdeveloped in comparison to others, they concoct Afrocentric fantasies to boost self-esteem. This only further damages cultural development.
Herodotus says the Egyptians were negroes. Volney says the Egyptians were real negroes. Edward Robinson in his Bible Encyclopaedia says, "The ancient name of the country (Egypt) among the inhabitants themselves, was Chimi or Chami, which the Hebrews probably pronounced Cham or Ham and referred to Ham, the grandfather of Mezarim. The Egyptian word signified black, according to Plutarch, (de Is. et Osir, p. 264.)
@SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 Yes, by the time of Herodotus and Plutarch, Egypt may have been Nubian-run. But who were the Egyptians 1,000-2,000 years before? The ones who made the civilizational advancements in architecture, math, astronomy? Archaeologists and geneticists do not say they were Negroid. They were mixed-race at best. In fact, Tut, Ramesses II and Cleopatra were white. DNA and scientific analysis proves it. Why can't blacks accept "mixed-race"? That still includes them.
GOD PTAH- The DWARF GODS Ptah and Bes were the best known...etc to protect the living and dead. God Ptah was the greast of Gods of Egypt. He was considered the first of all Gods the master architect of the universe, Ptah was the creator God who brought all things to being by thinking of them with his mind ans saying their names with his tongue.
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Genetic Disorders Among Arab Populations By Ahmad S. Teebi - Page 286
The oldest known fossil remains, according to Dr. Louis Leakey, were found in the Olduvai Gorge region in Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. These first "small stature" people were known as the "Twa", who worshipped the God Bes, a primitive human form of Horus I, being the earliest form of Ptah the God of Gods. The Twa, are modern humans or Homo sapiens sapiens. They are a diminutive Africoid people residing in the rain forests of Central Africa. Related groups live in South and Southeast Asia.
@SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 Like allAfrocentrics, you leap from one known set of data to another, making a causal connection that is simply not there. The "oldest known fossil remains" (I presume you mean ancestral to humans) found in Olduvai, etc. are Australopithecene, 3.5 million years ago and more (Lucy, et al). The Twa of Central Africa are modern Negroids, and commonly known as pygmies. And the Twa are not directly related to indigenous peoples of Southeast Asia. Not that it matters much.
The QUEEN OF SIIAN, of the kingom of Ts'i, was very homely, indeed she had not her equal for ugliness. Her eyes were sunk in their sockets, her nose flat as if pressed down with a magistrate's seal, she had a swelled throat, an immense neck, and very little hair. Her fingers were long and large-jointed, her back was crooked, and her COMPLEXION WAS BLACK as if
it had been painted.
_ book title ''TYPICAL WOMEN OF CHINA'' - page 212
@SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 What "movement"? A movement based on historical distortion and delusions of grandeur? I'm not interested in stopping it. My only interest is getting people to think critically before celebrating fantastical claims. A universal black cultural meme is seeking to be overcome with "feeling" or "the spirit." That mystical, very subjective state where feeling=truth. It's great for art and music. But not necessarily for scholarly issues that call for reason and evidence.
You’re such a pseudo-intellectual. I think if you want to encourage people to think critically, you have to be able to think critically yourself and you haven’t be able to demonstrate that since you started posting of my forum. You have so many logical fallacies that its breath taking.
Anthropologist Jared Diamond in his bestselling book, Guns, Germs, and Steel suggests that the Negritos are ancestors of the Aboriginal Australians/Papuans of New Guinea by Windshuttle and Gillin (2002).
@SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 I read Diamond's Pulitzer-winning book, plus his follow-up "Collapse" (another very good read). I forget what he said about Aboriginals, I read the book 10 years ago. I'll re-read.
Being among the least-known of all living human groups, the origins of the Negrito people is a much debated topic. The Malay term for them is orang asli, or original people.
They are likely descendants of the indigenous populations of the Sunda landmass and New Guinea, predating the Mongoloid peoples who later entered Southeast Asia.
You are so disingenuous and ignorant. The ancient Egyptian never started as a mixed society if this was the case then you should be able to demonstrate cultural ties with other societies. However, the ancient Egyptians’ language and culture is closely related to Africans than any other groups. The ancient Egyptians indeed mixed with other people no one denies this but the elements of their civilizations were African. This was recorded by the Greeks and Egyptians.
@blackhaze21 Why assume that an indigenous population in Egypt or anywhere must be "pure"? And how do you know they were Negroid in the first place? Are all indigenous peoples from North Africa black? Extractable DNA evidence from the oldest Egyptian remains always show a mixed-race people. The burden of proof is on Afrocentrics like you to show that they were fundamentally Negroid. I.e., would they have been denied service at a restaurant in the segregated South?
"The two main genetic clusters found in Egypt are Haplogroups E (E-M35, E-M78 and E-M81) and J-M267. The E clusters all originated within Sub-Saharan East Africa or Central Africa. E-M81 derived from the ancestral East African E-M35 lineage that spread to North Africa along with E-M78 during the early Holocene.
J-M267 is derived from the Arab invasion" ,Am J. Hum. Genet. 74 (5): 101422 700AD.
What about this DNA evidence, that doesn't list you as indigenous to Africa.
I can answer your questions with questions. What constitutes a pure “race”? Does being Negroid means you’re black? Did native Africans populate North Africa in pre-historic times? What did the ancient Egyptians say about their origin? The burden of proof is on those who deny that ancient Egyptians were not Africans. By the way, my evidence is on my videos. :)
@blackhaze21 Good questions. No, there doesn't seem to be a "pure" race. DNA evidence suggests that people have always mixed. And it's no longer conclusive that the first modern humans--or even our pre-human ancestors--came only from Africa. Early fossil evidence outside of Africa is on the rise. Neandertal DNA shows in all modern races except those from Africa. So Africa can no longer be considered an indisputable point of origin--but it never was. Science leaves the door open, always.
Thanks for answering one of my questions but thanks for ignoring the others. You’re jumping to issue to issue. I can care less if you subscribe to the multiregional hypothesis. The point is that there no such thing as a pure race, and if you know this why make the assertion? You’re very disingenuous that’s pretty shameful.
@blackhaze21 I've never claimed there are "pure" races. Read all my posts, you'll see. But there are distinct racial groups nonetheless. "Negroid" is morphological AND regional--i.e., blacks from Africa. Black or dark-skinned peoples with morphological features similar to black Africans, but who are genetically and geographically distant from African origins, are Melanesians and Australian Aboriginals. They're not referred to as "black" in the Negroid sense, but in terms of skin color.
@blackhaze21 As for what ancient Egyptians said about their origins, they claim the Southern Nile region--at least that's what Afrocentrics always bring up. Be that as it may, that's only a guide, not proof, of their origins. Because every culture or race has a story of their origins. Some are fantastical, others pretty accurate. Remember a few years back, some Native American tribes protested strongly against DNA evidence of Asian origins. They privileged their own stories over science.
The ancient Egyptians were not ignorant of their origin, as you presented to be, they unambiguously acknowledged that their origin came from the south. Who are better qualified to speak of their own origin then the ancient Egyptians themselves? In fact, they called south of Egypt their ancestral homeland. Many archaeology, anthropology, and linguistics show that may key aspects of Egyptians culture were indeed brought up from the south by migrating African colonists.
@blackhaze21 Fine. I'm not arguing that they weren't--I'm saying ancient people claiming to be from somewhere is not proof that they were. And I gave a clear example why not. But also remember--because this calls into question your argument--even if it's proven that indigenous Egyptians were from the South, there's still no proof that they are the Dynastic Egyptians who created Egyptian civilization. That's like 5,000 years from now, saying Native Americans must've built 20th cent. America.
That’s true but their testimony is supported by linguistic, archeological, anthropological evidence. You’re just running away from the facts, which is pretty shameful. In his book, the civilization of Africa, Christopher Ehret documents how the early Afro-asiatic speakers originated from the south and imported many elements in ancient Egyptian civilization. Your comments is telling me what you haven’t read or researched because you would not be saying these things.
You suffer from, what behavioral scientists call, “white racial frame”. Your post is dripping with the white racial frame attitude, not to mention stupidity. I know you must think you’re the great purveyor of the harsh truth but you really are showing us, especially me that you’re an ignorant individual. It seems you’re the one with the self-esteem problem. After all, you have been overly obsessed with proving that African people are substandard.
@blackhaze21 No, I'm merely "proving" that black cultural memes, more than externally imposed conditions, are the primary determinant of black civilizational outcomes. I subscribe to cultural relativism to a certain point--and that is, not everyone has to be as highly developed as the West, in order to be "good" or "worthy" in any sense whatsoever. But if blacks will not reject Western materialism wholesale, then they'll invariably be judged by Western standards. That's the Faustian bargain.
- “Professor Vercoutter declared that, for him, Egypt was African in its writing, its culture and its manner of thinking”. (The settlement of old Egypt, COp cit., p. 87)
You don’t know African history nor do you know world history to say the things you say. You subscribe to Eurocentric viewpoints, and you suffer from the white racial frame. The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant and not worth responding too.
We read of Memnon, King of Ethiopia, in Greek mythology, to be exact in Homer's Iliad, where he leads an army of Elamites and Ethiopians to the assistance of King Priam in the Trojan War. His expedition is said to have started from the African Ethiopia and to have passed through Egypt on the way to Troy. According to Herodotus, Memnon was the founder of Susa, the chief city of the Elamites. " asserts Professor Rawlinson, built by Memnon both in Egypt and at Susa;
The ancient peoples of Mesopotamia are sometimes called the Chaldeans, but this is inaccurate and confusing. Before the Chaldean rule in Mesopotamia, there were the empires of the Sumerians, Akkadians, Babylonians and Assyrians. The earliest civilization of Mesopotamia was that of the Sumerians. They are designated in the Assyrio-Babylonian inscriptions as the BLACK-heads or BLACK-faced people. (Ancient Monarchies, Vol. I, Chap. 3.)
You didn't refute my point. I'm not talking about the Spanish language and "Negro." I'm talking 80,000 years ago! What proof is there that the modern humans who left Africa 80-100,000 years ago were black? That's the crucial point, dude. You're saying blacks were the "original race," and everyone sprung from original Negritude, so therefore blacks deserve credit for everyone's accomplishments. I'm saying there's no proof we all started out black. If we did, where's the evidence?
@takfam07, As I have stated many times, we are not here to refute you. We are not interested in your point of view. We are African-Centered and thats what matters here. Maybe you will find more support for your believe among your own.
@EGYPTIANHISTORY How come when you can't answer a reasonable question, you always say "we're not here to refute you, we're African-centered," etc. What good is being "African-centered" if you cant stand up to argument and proof? See, that's why Africans had no science, never invented or discovered anything, had no philosophical systems. The whole Western scientific method rests on proof, testability. To be valid, a theory must survive constant testing. Afrocentrism simply can't measure up.
"Since the publication of Verneau's memoir, discoveries of other NEGROID SKELETONS in NEOLITHIC levels in ILLYRIA and the BALKANS have been announced. The prehistoric statues, dating from the COPPER AGE, from SULTAN SELO in BULGARIA are also thought to portray NEGROIDS."
-FOSSIL MEN by Marcellin Boule and Henri V. Vallois(1957)
@EGYPTIANHISTORY Boule and Vallois also said that Neandertals had no place in human ancestry. They believed that Neandertal was more apelike than human, had simian intelligence, and walked in an apelike gait. They totally misread the LaChappele Neandertal specimens. Recent DNA tests prove that all races (except blacks) have 2-4% Neandertal DNA. The "Grimaldi Skeletons" were manipulated by Belle and Vallois to appear Negroid." Not conclusive--and the only ambiguous ones ever found.
@takfam07 The Ethiopian origin of astronomy is beautifully explained by Count Volney in a passage in his Ruins of Empires, which is one of the glories of modern literature, and his argument is not based on guesses. He invokes the weighty authority of Charles F. Dupuis, whose three monumental works, The Origin of Constellations, The Origin of Worship and The Chronological Zodiac, are marvels of meticulous research.
"The Ethiopians," says Lucian, page 985, "were the first who invented the science of the stars, and gave names to the planets, not at random and without meaning, but descriptive of the qualities which they conceived them to possess; and it was from them that this art passed, still in an imperfect state, to the Egyptians."
@EGYPTIANHISTORY Better read real history, not Afrocentric stuff. Astronomy was first invented by the Mesopotamians (Sumerians, Assyrans, Babylonians, followed by Egypt (when it was run by Caucasoid peoples), Greece, india, China, and Mesoamerica. Ethiopians aren't mentioned in any peer-reviewed texts on ancient astronomy. Sorry.
@takfam07 It was, then, on the borders of the upper Nile, among a black race of men, that was organized the complicated system of the worship of the stars, considered in relation to the productions of the earth and the labors of agriculture. … Thus the Ethiopian of Thebes named stars of inundation, or Aquarius, those stars under which the Nile began to overflow;
Elliot Smith, "is the family likeness between the early Neolithic peoples of the British Isles and the Mediterranean and the bulk of the population, both ancient and modern, of Egypt and East Africa, that a description of the bones of an Early Briton of that remote epoch might apply in all essential details to an inhabitant of Somaliland."
-ANCIENT MAN IN BRITAIN by Donald Alexander Mackenzie(1922)
The Learned Maurice says, Cuthited, i.e, Celts built the great temples in India and Britian and excvted thecaves of the former... and the Learned Mathematician - Rueben Burrow has no heistation in pronouncing STONEHENGE to be a temple of the BLACKS.
@EGYPTIANHISTORY And how "learned" can they be with ludicrous claims like that? Stonehenge is black? Blacks have no concept of honor. This "African-centered" stuff is probably a joke, I know. But remember, black culture worldwide is such a disaster, most other races just shake their heads Poverty, disease, violent crime, illegitimacy, multiple teen pregnancy, drug abuse, lowest IQ and education, imprisonment, and gov't dependency--no exceptions. Is that what "African-centered" means?
I'm trying to figure something out. If all this is true, and blacks built glorious ancient civilizations and taught the Phoenicians, Egyptians, Greeks, etc...what happened? How did they go from being so brilliant, to being the most impoverished, underdeveloped, dependent, lowest IQ race on the planet today? There is no significant population of blacks today that is not characterized by poverty, disease, violence, dependence on foreign aid, disorder, and lack of morals and honor. How come?
Your comments, especially the one you just posted, reflect your ignorance on world history. How intelligent is it to measure the history of a people based on their present condition. Say a thousand years from now all Europeans countries went impoverish and somebody claimed that Europeans never contributed to development of modern civilization in 21th centuries because they all are poor people today. How logical is that position?
@blackhaze21 OK, you're right. That's an intelligent commentary. So what do blacks to now? As an East Asian American, I am fortunate that my culture has triumphed over past injustice or whatever. I don't claim to have anything to do with their advancement, but it does wonders for the psyche to know your peeps can hang with the best--socioeconomically, technologically. I would like blacks to enjoy the same. but I can see their thinking and actions haven't yet coalesced to make that happen.
@takfam07 I think people misinterpret blacks acknowledging other black civilizations as a claimed to racial superiority or racial uplifting. I always found that notion quite ironic seeing as how the notion that Christopher Columbus discovered America, the white Jesus image, and Aryans were the founders of Greek civilizations seems like racial uplifting history used to do, like you said, “wonders on the psyche” of white people.
@blackhaze21 Afrocentrists go beyond just acknowledging black civilizations. They propound a racist doctrine of black biological superiority. Which started just as whites were eradicating the notion of white biological supremacy. Sure, blacks feel that whitening Jesus or whatever is disingenuous. But the vast majority of Christian blacks arrived at Jesus through whites. And Greeks weren't Scandinavian, but they were Caucasian. Anyway, you can deconstruct all of it. But what will it solve?
Although I’m not Afrocentric I don’t think you know what Afrocentrism is about. You don’t know history either, Christianity was in Africa before Europe, and blacks were Christians long before whites. Some of the early church fathers were African. It’s important to note ancient Greeks never viewed themselves as “white”, especially if you read the work of Aristotle. It’s all about presenting the truth.
@blackhaze21 Christianity in Africa may have preceded Europe, but it wasn't black Africans that brought it to Europe. And it has nothing to do with Jesus' race, as he wasn't black, he was Semitic (if he existed at all). I studied ancient Greek history at Harvard under Greg Nagy, David Mitten and other renowned classicists and archaeologists. I traveled to Greece twice for research. They were and are Caucasian people. Pindaric Odes, bas reliefs, red and black vase paintings --white people.
I never said Africans brought it into Europe it was spread from western Asia. You said that whites introduced Christianity to Africans, which is false. I never said that Greeks were not white. I said they never viewed themselves as the same as other white people. They would be horrified to know they are lumped in the same category of whites, especially northern Europeans, people who they viewed as barbarians. By the way, I never said Jesus was black but that he wasn't white.
@blackhaze21 Then we move to the contentious issue of "what is white?" I guess it's possible that the early taxonomic classification of races might've had a racist agenda. The three broad categories still in use-- Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid --reflect the "candelabra" approach to racial definitions. You're right, Greeks favored dark skin as a sign of masculinity, bravery, strength. To be pale or "white" was to be un-manly. As for Jesus, he was Semitic--wouldn't that be "white"?
I don’t subscribe to the notion of race, for this is not enough evidence to prove that there is something called a “race”. Well, Semitic is not really an ethnic term but a linguistic term. Jesus was not white, he did not have any European ancestry.
@cgreenartpro1 First of all, why would you cite the Bible as historical proof of anything? At best, it is an ancient text that should be corroborated with other texts and forensic evidence to arrive as close to historical fact as possible. Second, Jesus was undoubtedly Semitic, given the region and era he was purportedly from. Semites are classified as Caucasian. If you don't think so, then take it up with ethnologists. I'm sure they'd love to hear yet more Afrocentric reasoning.
@TheJones1957 I do not disagree that we ALL are of African origin. Our DNA shows it, fossil evidence still points to it. So of course the ancestors of Phoenicians, Egyptians, Greeks, Europeans, Chinese, etc.--were all African at some point. Modern humans left Africa 80-100,000 years ago, but were they necessarily black or Negroid? I would contend that Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid racial groups evolved AFTER that diaspora, because it was still the Ice Age when the latter two left.
@takfam07, Yes modern human left Africa, but they were still black. Phoenican is a Greek word for PUNIC-PUN-PUNT. Egypt is a Greek word for '' temple of Ptah. Ptah was ANU, BES, KHOISAN whom caucasains called pygmies. Europe gets the name from the PHOENICAN lady Europa sister of Cadmus the black man. Chinese Professor Jin Li ran DNA test ans conclusely stated that there was no such thing as Peking man, thusly their ancestor were Black...., This only leaves the albino.
@EGYPTIANHISTORY Linguistics do not confirm race. All cultures have different usages of the term "black." My pure Japanese uncle was nicknamed "Blackie" because he was so dark. But he was most assuredly not Negroid. And the Chinese ancestral DNA studies conclude that they have African origins, yes. But African does not mean Negroid, especially when discussing happenings 80,000 years ago, during the Ice Age. Like I said, peoples who stayed in Africa BECAME Negroid--after the others left.
@takfam07 If you search the video on youtube called '' FAMILY WALKS ON ALL FOURS''. this is of your ancestors. Note the differences between them in my Nilotic builders of African that stayed and built structures that have the world in awe to this very day.
Shalom .... 1st i wanna give praise to the most high yaweh, 2nd off how about we stand as a people (blackman & woman), go back to africa & demand our own government .... we need our own country,army,politicians,kings&queens, & our own way of life not the ones we have now in america shalom isalam salakem !!!!!! please help spread the message (allthingsnew) 2012
ethiopia and kenya are artificial countries, neither of them belongs to ancient egypt. but Somalis were the fathers of the ancient egyptians, and pharaoh himself was a somali. ethiopians came from yemen and they are arabs, kenya is a collection of negroids from mozambique and central africa, and the land mass currently named to be ethiopia and kenya is indeed a SOMALI LAND, it belongs to Somalis (Punt), the capital of land of gods. pharaoh himself came from land of gods and he declared to be god
How can one speak about the history of the word Ham, Shem, and japheth without using the source where it originates? Its either you don't believe in the theory of Ham, Shem, and Japhate or you do. No reason to play games and deny what the source says just because it does not support your bias view, and makes you feel inferior about yourself.
How can one speak about the history of the word Ham, Shem, and japhate without using the source where it originates? Its either you don't believe in the theory of Ham, Shem, and Japhate or you do. No reason to play games and deny what the source says just because it does not support your bias view, and makes you feel inferior about yourself.
This troll's is an example to what extent a racist is willing to go deny the truth about black people. Even when the Old Testament itself, translates what is also found in the Torah states that Nimrod was Cushite of Ham . This is not good enough for this troll who have yet to show where I lie. He claims what is written in clear print is a lie because, he can't let go of the lies that the devil have taught him. Clearly he has yet to prove the lie otherwise and has no credibility.
Your speak rhetorically and give me no examples of which of your mythical "facts" I am unable to dispute. That's how the Nation of Islam attracts new and foolish members, they speak in circles as you do so well. That technique may work on a negro, but its doesn't work with an intelligent White Man. As far as I have seen your comments give NO "facts" or even speculation, but merely talk around the issues leave nothing but "air" for me to debate. You bore me. You leave many words but SAY nothing.
I think you were talking about yourself because you're the one going in circles. Intelligent white man? Please don't faltter yourself. You just cried how ancient qoutes are queationable despite never demostatreing that they are. As far the facts are concern, you are on my video forum. My facts are in my video but you haven't disputing anything. Your whole stragey is to play the undermine game, but we wont play that game. I'm waiting for you to prove me.
@Prometheus2912....eh dude, you hate me for nothing but the color of my skin....who taught you to do that....the same ppl responsible for teaching me that crazy shit. Whether you hate me or not, what difference does it make....ur hate is just gonna burn inside your own soul, not mines. Accept the All-Pervasive Maat as the truth and that act alone will begin to heal you my son!
@Tiarka Actually I hate your message - your sources for you statements are vague or not given. I repeat, I don't have confidence in 2,000 year old Greek quotes unless they are carved in stone. The New Testament and most of the Old Testament have been revised many times since 200-300 CE for political reasons. There is proof of this. Perhaps I DON"T hate you because I feel no burning inside. My soul is not in need of healing, I am totally comfortable with my feeling and beliefs. But thank you.
Now if you are going to use the idea that Mesopotamia was the first civilization, remember it was AFTER THE FLOOD, (don't forget there were civilizations before the flood that were destroy). Also don't ignore the founder of Babylon and claim it was a Shemite civilization, Nimrod the founder was Cushite of Ham, the Torah and Bible states that clearly so that people will not confuse Kush with Shem. That is why Ham and Cush are written in Nimrods geneaology.
When you talk about civilization starting in the middle east to try to say that blacks were not in ME, you run into the issue of Nimrod. Not only does it say he is Cushite, but also of Ham just in case liars try to say this Kushite is a Semite. Anything different than this, is not from the Torah or Bible because these sources very specific about who was living where. Now the only reason people bring up Mesopotamia is because of the bible said so. Yet they ignore the balck Nimrod part.
...that Greeks and Africans were absolutely in love with one another. 16th century historians try to deliberately distort that. There is only one race. White people trace their ancestry back to a black woman. We all do. That's the truth. You were not made in His image or likeness (white, invisible guy in the sky cursing Africans). But you were made in Her image and likeness. (The black woman isGod, fool!)
Brothers and sistas, please don't argue with white ppl about what we are now beginning to know to be true. They have been just as mis-educated and mis-informermed concerning black people. Rich whites try to get the the poor whites to stay in an ignorant mentality to protect their interests. I don't know quite about the Romans, but we are beginning to learn....
@Tiarka Actually, WE had "Black History" classes forced down our fucken throats. We don't want to be educated about YOU. We don't care. We, like Black Muslims feel towards our race, HATE you, think you are the DEVIL and wait anxiously for YOUR day to come. Africa, with 85% of the worlds AIDS cases and its 61 territories and their constant civil wars and millions of deaths and the 76,000 people crammed into small refugee camps, starving and with no drinkable water will soon be extinct.
@Tiarka Shikhamana.. 'Brothers and sistas, please don't argue with white ppl about what we are now beginning to know to be true'.. I second this emphatically. We as Ba-Kongo have entirely too much work to do in the Education of Right Knowledge for Our Own People to waste time with nonsensical and inarguable 'arguments' with others. You may find an interest in My Lessons and Questions. My Lesson 302 pertains specifically to what you aver in this post Ndugu. I look forward to building with you..
There are two variants of the black race: (a) straight-haired, represented in Asia by the Dravidians and in Africa by the Nubians and the Tubbou or Tedda, all three with jet-black skins; (b) the kinky-haired blacks of the Equatorial regions. Both types entered into the composition of the Egyptian population
; subsequent methodological progress in the domain of physical anthropology in no way undermines what is called the 'Lepsius canon' which, in round figures, gives the bodily proportions of the ideal Egyptian, short-armed and of negroid or negrito physical
Among the criteria accepted in physical anthropology for classifying races, the osteological measurements are perhaps the least misleading (in contrast to craniometry) for distinguishing a black man from a white man. By this criterion, also, the Egyptians belong among the black races. This study was made by the distinguished German savant Lepsius at the end of the nineteenth century and his conclusions remain valid
One other thing that beginners should look at also is in the pyramid times, you had these races around the world, Greek people, the Mesapatomian/asian people, the Ethiopian people and the native people of the so called americas, these were the different races you had at this time, now if you know the truth about the Ancient Ethiopians, who matches when it comes to pryramid building and hieroglyphs and buring their kings in pyramids. Bingo The Ethiopians, but nobody is telling that story
Also another topic for beginners to know is that, most white and black scholors teach that these fraud pharaohs of the hyksos, mesapatomians, and greek, at the time they won war or obtained small parts of land, they make it look like they were king of the Ci-Koma or what they call king of Egypt, but this is not true because at this same time you always had a true or native king repersenting the whole nile valley, but they were never recognized, in books that later came in our modern times.
For all yall people who have just began looking at the so called A.Egyptian history, their are three parts to really look at, first is when the hyksos people took land from the Ethiopians/Ba-Kongos(we obtained it back), second when the mesapatomians/assyrians took land from the Eth/BaKO(we obtained it back), and third when the Greeks took land from the Eth/Bako, this three wars only happened in the delta and this land was small compared to the Whole Nile Valley which was always gov by the Eth/Ba
And also have any of yall wondered why when it comes to these white scholors reasearching about nubians/ethiopians/ku-kongos, that they can't find a king between menes to I'll say a little before the 25th dynasty, as King of the so called split nation to the south called Kush or Ethiopia, why because Ethiopia or Ci-Koma was one nation from the Med Sea all the way down, the Ethiopians defeating the egyptians in the 25th d is a lie, its just about us kicking foreigners out of our nation Eth/CkMA.
So everybody lets get this straight this egyptians taught the ethiopians/nubians/Ku-Kongos is not true, if you know the whole story (Greeks, only ones calling their selves egyptians) (egyptian meaning greek person living in the delta area), then everybody would know that the Ethiopians/Ku-Kongos were the natives, and this whole big craze about the so called Egypt, is really about Ethiopia or Ci-Koma (One Nation-the nile valley).
And to the person who made this video, it is a great video, but I hope he understands that the Ethiopians/Nubians/Kushites what he is calling them, that they were not the last blacks to rule Egypt, because the Egypt that he is speaking of is just lost land in the delta or lost land in our nation of Ethiopia or Ci-Koma, we have always ruled most of the nile.
@southbr28 'because the Egypt that he is speaking of is just lost land in the delta or lost land in our nation of Ethiopia or Ci-Koma, we have always ruled most of the nile'.. Wisely stated. The first thing that Our People need to do is erase the geographic and language division implanted into Them by the euroarabasian. With this alteration of Consciousness, then Our People will Overstand that what is now Known as 'Afrika', 'Middle East', 'India', 'Americas' 'Asia' and 'Australia' was Ku-Kongo.
@TStheEducator The paramount Reason for not having to argue with the euroarabasian about Ourstory is because he did not *exist* during the body of Ourstory. he did not leave the caves until yesterday.. in comparison to the millions of years of Ourstory. he even says this himself.. saying that in the span of time from Jan. 1 to Dec. 31.. his existence came about on probably the morning of new years eve.. Dec. 31 [S. Wells, 'The Journey of Man']. This is why We need not discuss whites in Ourstory.
Kwa-Kongo-Weto.. Ba-Kuma [A.Egyptians] never said They were any other color than than Black. They also show reverence to Their NGoma continuously by the very use of Their name, and the word MR. I show this definitively in My Lesson 401. Shikhama..
@TStheEducator Hey we might be on the same page or maybe not, do you believe that their were two different tribes of africans, around the pyramid times, because you call the A. Egyptians - Ba-Kuma, then who is the Ba-Kongo, you see I understand their might be different words for the Ancient Ethiopians, but what ever the word is for the the Ancient Ethiopians, what ever it maybe to you, they are the ones who everyone is crazed up about, their is no Egyptians.
@southbr28 'A. Egyptians - Ba-Kuma, then who is the Ba-Kongo'.. Ba-Kuma is the Proper name of the first 'A.Egyptians'. They were Ba-Ntu and San Peoples.. hence the Red and Black skin variations. Ba-Kongo is Our Real Name.. as The Land of 'Afrika' is Ku-Kongo. This was also the name of the 'super-continent' misnomered 'pangaea'. Ba-Kuma called this KAANGA [KA-ANKH]. There is no such thing as an original 'Ethiopian', because it, and 'Egypt' are hellenik names. They both were part of Ci-Koma.
@TStheEducator This is why.. when tracing the map of Ku-Kongo from Our Origins, traveling in all directions, you see the names: Kongolo [Kongo], Kongora [Sudan], Kong [Ivory Coast], etc. It is imperative that you Overstand that the majority of the Place and People Names you see of Ku-Kongo [Afrika] today are hellenik, romanus, arab or european. The great Dr. Chancellor Williams warns of the implications of these mis-understandings due to the Proper Names being lost.
@TStheEducator What im trying to say is through my knowledge and research, there were no black africans living in South, or West Africa, in the pyramid times, if you were black african, then you lived and were from the nile valley. Now I might have the wrong name for the Ancient Ethiopians, but what ever they were called, they are our ancestors and are the ones who built cities like memphis and meroe, what im saying is you need to give me one word for these people, because their was no Egypt.
@southbr28 'our ancestors and are the ones who built cities like memphis and meroe, what im saying is you need to give me one word for these people, because their was no Egypt'.. I will be doing a Lesson soon on KWSH [so-call Kush].. because this is also an incorrect Overstanding do to a simple mis-translation in the wrong language. KWSH is not 'Kush'.. but OCHOSHI, or OKOSI.. which represents the cosmological Powers summoned by the Hougou in the Dogon-Yorubaa Luwo systems.
@TStheEducator Another thing, we may not be saying the words like our ancestors did, and its cool to know the real words, but still if you know, you know, just like in english and spanish, I watch the news in both languages, but got the same info, you know what im saying, like I may be not using the words my ancestors did, but I still understand the truth.
@TStheEducator Like for instance you saying that the Ba-Kuma are the proper name for the A. Egyptians, then this is not true, what you should say is that the Ba-Kuma is the proper name for the A. Ethiopians, because the people who really called their self egyptians, didn't build pyramids and did not speak or write in hieroglyhs until they had some Ethiopian(Ba-Kuma) servants from war and land they won in the delta, these Ethiopians tought these foreigners how to write and speak the language.
@southbr28 Anytime you speak of a 'delta'.. you are already speaking in the *post-dynastic period*.. because there was no 'delta' when Our People began in Ku-Kongo. There was no Mediterranean Sea. There were no other people.. period [no arab, Indian, european, Chinese, Japanese, none] except the San and Ba-Ntu. You keep counting *thousands* of years.. when We have inhabited the Land of Ku-Kongo for *millions*. Be very cautious speaking from the scholarship of a white man or arab.
Thank you, for this wonderful video.
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You just pulled that out of your hat. lol
blackhaze21 1 month ago
you need a voice to read all that...
atolliver91 1 month ago
see how sick they are,trust dna not the noses,logic shows you the dna is fake !
theraisis 1 month ago
" Anuk ser Sa Ser "
I am a Prince the son of a prince
:I existed when BULLS were NOT born and cows had not Yet been Made: translation by Gardiner!!!!! HOTEP!!!
bioarcheology 1 month ago
The problem with all these videos about balck pharaos, is that even though they say a truth that was by and large ignored by Europeans, ie, that there were black pharaos in Nubia, they seem to place an unnnatural emphasis on "race": "race" is a social construct invented by Europeans to dominate other people, therefore having African persons saying they're proud of being black would be just like a European saying he's proud of being white. What's the point? It's playing into the Europeans' trap.
jujujourand 1 month ago
well they tested dna from ancient egyptions, they were rn1, thats european genes... i guess that closes the discussion. i think its better to trust dna then pictures or nose sizes...
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puffy230 2 months ago
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Niche,... Good Video... Thanks
OEK2009 2 months ago
Hey check this out. The University of Cambridge recently dedicated scholarly backing of an African-centered Egypt & Nubia. They have a virtual museum where you can take a virtual tour and everything. Check it out. Just google "Fitzwilliam Museum Virtual Kemet". To all the unbelievers out there who can't accept the scientifically accepted facts about the Black African origins of Egypt AND Nubia, I wish you much luck challenging the #1 ranked University in the World, The University of Cambridge.
puffy230 2 months ago
Notice how the bigots spend ALL day posting dumb comments on everything black related.
So the Egyptians weren't Black...what were they?
British?Germans?Irish?Italians?Or maybe every other race as long as they weren't niggers I suppose...
BlackHaze21 I can't believe you even allow these bastards to bring their irrational hate over here.
Seems like 4 centuries of slavery were not enough, they just can't stop hating on the Black Man!
SundiataOfMali 2 months ago
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@SundiataOfMali The ancient Egyptians were not Caucasoid. Other ancient Egyptian practices show strong similarities to modern African cultures including divine kingship, the use of headrests, body art, circumcision, and male coming-of-age rituals, all suggesting an African substratum or foundation for Egyptian civilization.. "
Source: Donald Redford (2001) The Oxford encyclopedia of ancient Egypt,Volume 3. Oxford University Press. p. 28
nightmarehammer 2 months ago
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I don’t have the time nor the desire to monitor every comment posted on my forum. I try to block repeated offenders but reading every comment is tedious job.
blackhaze21 1 month ago
@blackhaze21 Lol I can't blame you, this world is truly full of beasts and it seems the internet is their biggest weapon.
Cheers
SundiataOfMali 1 month ago
@SundiataOfMali its simple neanderthal envy (has been since day one) you have to ignore it
wookyz1 1 month ago
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@SundiataOfMali its simple neanderthal envy (has been since day one) you have to ignore it
wookyz1 1 month ago
This a good video Nubia was great Empire so great Nubia was mention in the bible, not only that they restore Egypt back to there former glory Ruled a empire reach all the way to Egypt to Palestine, Egypt and Nubia and Axum those are one of Great African empire came out Africa and the world, Great video Bruh
richard33596 2 months ago
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richard33596 2 months ago
archaeologist find out that lack of resource Nubia start it to decline they find out Axum did invaded burn down the city of meroe, Lost there control of Nubia in time Muslim invasion of Egypt, Makura rose in the time medieval period two other Kingdom rose in Nubia as well Nobatia and Alodia
richard33596 2 months ago
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That's debatable because this so called invasion comes from King Ezana's records and not from the archeological evidence. The archeological shows that the kingdom of Kush faded due to economical reasons. The kingdom lasted close to the middle ages and the kushites never skipped a beat with the birth of other kushites kingdoms.
blackhaze21 1 month ago
The whole of africa was black !!!!
KingOfAfrica2012 2 months ago
@KingOfAfrica2012 Not quite. The only non black races in Africa during the ancient times were Carthaginians and the Arabians.
nightmarehammer 2 months ago
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richard33596 2 months ago
BLACK PRIDE!
Xaymaicana 3 months ago
axumites did conquer the Nubian, King Ezana was the First Christians emperor he was the person who conquer Nubia it became apart of the Axumites Empire that when Nubia was weak.
richard33596 3 months ago
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You’re right and you’re wrong. The askumites never had a direct form on imperial dominance on the kushites. With the decline of the Kushite Empire, the Aksum Empire took control of their trading post cities and they were able to impose an economical and political control of their kingdom. There was never direct military force dominance imposed on them. Otherwise, how can we explain other kushites kingdoms like Makuria?
blackhaze21 3 months ago
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richard33596 3 months ago
ethnocentric think if you don't have Negroid Feature your not Black, I think that is stupid not all African and African american look a like, we all come different shape size different feature different shade of color.
richard33596 3 months ago
too bad the axumites ended kushite empire!
dagmawimelaku 3 months ago
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They never conquered them, though
blackhaze21 3 months ago
The period when sub-Saharan Africa was most influential in Egypt was a time when neither Egypt, as we understand it culturally, nor the Sahara, as we understand it geographically, existed. Populations and cultures now found south of the desert roamed far to the north. The culture of Upper Egypt, which became dynastic Egyptian civilization, could fairly be called a Sudanese transplant Site : Peopling of the Nile Valley :a survey of mainstream of archaeology and anthropology research
TheJones1957 4 months ago
You should go read what you wrote because you tried to infer that I was claiming that the ancient Egyptians were “pure”. Let me this right…being Negroid means a “blacks from Africa”. Therefore, blacks living or born outside of Africa are not Negroid? What does it mean to be Black? Cleary the aboriginals have Negroid features but they are more genetically related to Asians.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Being Negroid means that you are a direct descendant of blacks from Africa. Just because I was born and raised in the US, doesn't mean that I cease to be racially Japanese. Culturally in the US at least, when we say someone is a black person, we all know it means that his/her ancestry traces back to black Africans. But in Australia, they refer to the Aborigines as "blacks." Not sure what they call Negroid peoples, but surely they make a distinction between them and Aboriginals.
takfam07 4 months ago
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According to your definition of Negroid, anyone with “black African” ancestry is black. Therefore, according to your own definition, the ancient Egyptians are Negroid because they are known to have black African DNA coming from the south. Not to mention, everyone on this planet has African DNA. Are you being serious?
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Use syllogistic reasoning to examine my statement. I said "being Negroid means you are a direct descendant of Blacks from Africa." However, it doesn't mean that all descendants of black Africans are necessarily classified as Negroid. And that is the essence of the debate around your black/Negroid Egypt claim. Let's say the Dynastic Egyptians had, on average, 5% black African genes. But the other 95% were a mixture of Eurasian, Arab, etc. Would you still claim them as black?
takfam07 4 months ago
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You have no logic and you contradicted yourself. You said that being Negroid means “you are direct descendant of Blacks from Africa. However, it doesn't mean that all descendants of black Africans are necessarily classified as Negroid” Your definition is clearly arbitrary and you make no sense.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Philosophy & Logic 101: 1) All Negroids are direct descendants of black Africans. 2) However, not all descendants of black Africans are classified as Negroid. 3) Therefore, some descendants of black Africans are classified as Negroid, some are not. A good example would be Bruce Lee. He was 3/4 Chinese, 1/4 German. Now, would you classify Bruce Lee as a white man? Did he think of himself as white, or Chinese? How does the world identify him? What race does he represent?
takfam07 4 months ago
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I tolerated you ignorance, foolishness, and racial innuendo but your faulty logic I cannot. I won’t entertain you any longer. I think any fair minded individual person reading can see how ridiculous you are. Thanks for playing for though.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 I asked Takfam07 a question below. I wanted to hear his answer. But he sent me a message on my profile saying you blocked. him. So I want you to know something. I'm black. I see your debate with Takfam07. He had perfect syllogistic reasoning. I studied philosophy at Harvard, I know. But you lost your nerve and blocked him. Listen--blacks want the truth about who we are. Then we need the courage to debate, not run away. Why do to others what we're saying was done to us?
Africanlongdrop 4 months ago
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_ Syllogistic from the GREEK WORD ''''SYLLOGISMOS''' defined as -- syn- "together" + logizesthai "to reason, count," from logos "a reckoning, reason."
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Notice that TAKFAM07 has not used logic or reasoning, because ''negro'' is a Spanish word meaning ''BLACK'', and then he goes on to say that not all Black are not Negros. Yet science of DNA say that all people they are descendant of Blacks. His conclusion is illogical fallacy based.
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
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They both the same person, you should not even bother
blackhaze21 4 months ago
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Well Takfam07, you play too many games, much like now, and I can't take someone like you serious. Hit me back when you ready to serious.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@takfam07 As a black man, I understand your reasoning and agree with your statement. But identity politics is a tough thing. Bruce Lee is a clever example but may not apply because ethnically/culturally/physically he was Chinese. But in the modern black world, even a hint of black usually means someone's considered black. Goes back to the Southern segregationist one-drop rule. Do you have any evidence of how Egyptians viewed blackness? Did they describe themselves as black?
Africanlongdrop 4 months ago
@Africanlongdrop, If you need evidence then look at QUEEN TIYE, she was the mother of Ankenaten, whom inturn was the father of King Tutankhamun ''TUT. Do you also need UNESCO SYMPOSIUM REPORT? I have it.
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
@Africanlongdrop Shoqana.. 'Do you have any evidence of how Egyptians viewed blackness? Did they describe themselves as black?'.. I do Series of Lessons and Questions concerning Ku-Kongo, Ba-Kongo-Beto and Ourstory. Ba-Kuma [A.Egyptians] no doubt Overstood who They were. For detailed information pertaining to the Question, specific Lessons answering this are 401, 402, 403 [language], and Question #6. In viewing these, what I call the 'inarguable argument' of Their Race will deem irrelevant.
TStheEducator 3 months ago
@TStheEducator
Save your words, educator. Africanlongdrop and takfam07 are the same person.
blackhaze21 3 months ago
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TStheEducator 3 months ago
@blackhaze21 Overstood. I extend My fullest appreciation to you and others in this mission of Psychological Liberation for Our People. The amaLoya Ba-Khulu speak through voices such as yours.. and They left every key We would need for the efforts We chose to partake. Continue your attempts diligently, Ndugu Mume..
TStheEducator 3 months ago
@TStheEducator
Thanks! I appreciate that. You continue to do the same. Hit me up anytime.
blackhaze21 3 months ago
@blackhaze21 Shoqana-yethu..
TStheEducator 3 months ago
What hurts blacks most today is the introduced ideology of "cultural relativism," that all cultures are inherently equal, so any unequal outcomes are the result of racism, discrimination, etc. This is why blacks stay mired in victim ideology, and regard objective truth as "white thinking." And since they cannot accept that African culture was hugely underdeveloped in comparison to others, they concoct Afrocentric fantasies to boost self-esteem. This only further damages cultural development.
takfam07 4 months ago
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sarcu, adj. agreeing with damu, "white race," as opposed to adamatu, " black or red race."
The history of Esarhaddon (son of Sennacherib) King of Assyria, B.C. 681-668; - page 23
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
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Concluding this argument we find:—
Herodotus says the Egyptians were negroes. Volney says the Egyptians were real negroes. Edward Robinson in his Bible Encyclopaedia says, "The ancient name of the country (Egypt) among the inhabitants themselves, was Chimi or Chami, which the Hebrews probably pronounced Cham or Ham and referred to Ham, the grandfather of Mezarim. The Egyptian word signified black, according to Plutarch, (de Is. et Osir, p. 264.)
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SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
@SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 Yes, by the time of Herodotus and Plutarch, Egypt may have been Nubian-run. But who were the Egyptians 1,000-2,000 years before? The ones who made the civilizational advancements in architecture, math, astronomy? Archaeologists and geneticists do not say they were Negroid. They were mixed-race at best. In fact, Tut, Ramesses II and Cleopatra were white. DNA and scientific analysis proves it. Why can't blacks accept "mixed-race"? That still includes them.
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The Greek name AIGYPTOS (Latin Aegyptus) derives from the name given to the city of Memphis, HU(t)-ka-Ptah, meaning ''THE-HOUSE-OF THE KA of PTAH.
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GOD PTAH- The DWARF GODS Ptah and Bes were the best known...etc to protect the living and dead. God Ptah was the greast of Gods of Egypt. He was considered the first of all Gods the master architect of the universe, Ptah was the creator God who brought all things to being by thinking of them with his mind ans saying their names with his tongue.
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Genetic Disorders Among Arab Populations By Ahmad S. Teebi - Page 286
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
The oldest known fossil remains, according to Dr. Louis Leakey, were found in the Olduvai Gorge region in Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania. These first "small stature" people were known as the "Twa", who worshipped the God Bes, a primitive human form of Horus I, being the earliest form of Ptah the God of Gods. The Twa, are modern humans or Homo sapiens sapiens. They are a diminutive Africoid people residing in the rain forests of Central Africa. Related groups live in South and Southeast Asia.
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
@SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 Like allAfrocentrics, you leap from one known set of data to another, making a causal connection that is simply not there. The "oldest known fossil remains" (I presume you mean ancestral to humans) found in Olduvai, etc. are Australopithecene, 3.5 million years ago and more (Lucy, et al). The Twa of Central Africa are modern Negroids, and commonly known as pygmies. And the Twa are not directly related to indigenous peoples of Southeast Asia. Not that it matters much.
takfam07 4 months ago
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ARAYA mean compatriot in Sanskrit which is defined as ''COUNTRYMAN''.
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There was never any people called Aryan according to the VEDAS.
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The QUEEN OF SIIAN, of the kingom of Ts'i, was very homely, indeed she had not her equal for ugliness. Her eyes were sunk in their sockets, her nose flat as if pressed down with a magistrate's seal, she had a swelled throat, an immense neck, and very little hair. Her fingers were long and large-jointed, her back was crooked, and her COMPLEXION WAS BLACK as if
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SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
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Over 100,000 views....., you cannot stop this movement!
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
@SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 What "movement"? A movement based on historical distortion and delusions of grandeur? I'm not interested in stopping it. My only interest is getting people to think critically before celebrating fantastical claims. A universal black cultural meme is seeking to be overcome with "feeling" or "the spirit." That mystical, very subjective state where feeling=truth. It's great for art and music. But not necessarily for scholarly issues that call for reason and evidence.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07
You’re such a pseudo-intellectual. I think if you want to encourage people to think critically, you have to be able to think critically yourself and you haven’t be able to demonstrate that since you started posting of my forum. You have so many logical fallacies that its breath taking.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
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Anthropologist Jared Diamond in his bestselling book, Guns, Germs, and Steel suggests that the Negritos are ancestors of the Aboriginal Australians/Papuans of New Guinea by Windshuttle and Gillin (2002).
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
@SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 I read Diamond's Pulitzer-winning book, plus his follow-up "Collapse" (another very good read). I forget what he said about Aboriginals, I read the book 10 years ago. I'll re-read.
takfam07 4 months ago
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Being among the least-known of all living human groups, the origins of the Negrito people is a much debated topic. The Malay term for them is orang asli, or original people.
They are likely descendants of the indigenous populations of the Sunda landmass and New Guinea, predating the Mongoloid peoples who later entered Southeast Asia.
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
@takfam07
You are so disingenuous and ignorant. The ancient Egyptian never started as a mixed society if this was the case then you should be able to demonstrate cultural ties with other societies. However, the ancient Egyptians’ language and culture is closely related to Africans than any other groups. The ancient Egyptians indeed mixed with other people no one denies this but the elements of their civilizations were African. This was recorded by the Greeks and Egyptians.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Why assume that an indigenous population in Egypt or anywhere must be "pure"? And how do you know they were Negroid in the first place? Are all indigenous peoples from North Africa black? Extractable DNA evidence from the oldest Egyptian remains always show a mixed-race people. The burden of proof is on Afrocentrics like you to show that they were fundamentally Negroid. I.e., would they have been denied service at a restaurant in the segregated South?
takfam07 4 months ago
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"The two main genetic clusters found in Egypt are Haplogroups E (E-M35, E-M78 and E-M81) and J-M267. The E clusters all originated within Sub-Saharan East Africa or Central Africa. E-M81 derived from the ancestral East African E-M35 lineage that spread to North Africa along with E-M78 during the early Holocene.
J-M267 is derived from the Arab invasion" ,Am J. Hum. Genet. 74 (5): 101422 700AD.
What about this DNA evidence, that doesn't list you as indigenous to Africa.
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
@takfam07
I can answer your questions with questions. What constitutes a pure “race”? Does being Negroid means you’re black? Did native Africans populate North Africa in pre-historic times? What did the ancient Egyptians say about their origin? The burden of proof is on those who deny that ancient Egyptians were not Africans. By the way, my evidence is on my videos. :)
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Good questions. No, there doesn't seem to be a "pure" race. DNA evidence suggests that people have always mixed. And it's no longer conclusive that the first modern humans--or even our pre-human ancestors--came only from Africa. Early fossil evidence outside of Africa is on the rise. Neandertal DNA shows in all modern races except those from Africa. So Africa can no longer be considered an indisputable point of origin--but it never was. Science leaves the door open, always.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07
Thanks for answering one of my questions but thanks for ignoring the others. You’re jumping to issue to issue. I can care less if you subscribe to the multiregional hypothesis. The point is that there no such thing as a pure race, and if you know this why make the assertion? You’re very disingenuous that’s pretty shameful.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 I've never claimed there are "pure" races. Read all my posts, you'll see. But there are distinct racial groups nonetheless. "Negroid" is morphological AND regional--i.e., blacks from Africa. Black or dark-skinned peoples with morphological features similar to black Africans, but who are genetically and geographically distant from African origins, are Melanesians and Australian Aboriginals. They're not referred to as "black" in the Negroid sense, but in terms of skin color.
takfam07 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 As for what ancient Egyptians said about their origins, they claim the Southern Nile region--at least that's what Afrocentrics always bring up. Be that as it may, that's only a guide, not proof, of their origins. Because every culture or race has a story of their origins. Some are fantastical, others pretty accurate. Remember a few years back, some Native American tribes protested strongly against DNA evidence of Asian origins. They privileged their own stories over science.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07
The ancient Egyptians were not ignorant of their origin, as you presented to be, they unambiguously acknowledged that their origin came from the south. Who are better qualified to speak of their own origin then the ancient Egyptians themselves? In fact, they called south of Egypt their ancestral homeland. Many archaeology, anthropology, and linguistics show that may key aspects of Egyptians culture were indeed brought up from the south by migrating African colonists.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Fine. I'm not arguing that they weren't--I'm saying ancient people claiming to be from somewhere is not proof that they were. And I gave a clear example why not. But also remember--because this calls into question your argument--even if it's proven that indigenous Egyptians were from the South, there's still no proof that they are the Dynastic Egyptians who created Egyptian civilization. That's like 5,000 years from now, saying Native Americans must've built 20th cent. America.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07
That’s true but their testimony is supported by linguistic, archeological, anthropological evidence. You’re just running away from the facts, which is pretty shameful. In his book, the civilization of Africa, Christopher Ehret documents how the early Afro-asiatic speakers originated from the south and imported many elements in ancient Egyptian civilization. Your comments is telling me what you haven’t read or researched because you would not be saying these things.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@takfam07
You suffer from, what behavioral scientists call, “white racial frame”. Your post is dripping with the white racial frame attitude, not to mention stupidity. I know you must think you’re the great purveyor of the harsh truth but you really are showing us, especially me that you’re an ignorant individual. It seems you’re the one with the self-esteem problem. After all, you have been overly obsessed with proving that African people are substandard.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 No, I'm merely "proving" that black cultural memes, more than externally imposed conditions, are the primary determinant of black civilizational outcomes. I subscribe to cultural relativism to a certain point--and that is, not everyone has to be as highly developed as the West, in order to be "good" or "worthy" in any sense whatsoever. But if blacks will not reject Western materialism wholesale, then they'll invariably be judged by Western standards. That's the Faustian bargain.
takfam07 4 months ago
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- “Professor Vercoutter declared that, for him, Egypt was African in its writing, its culture and its manner of thinking”. (The settlement of old Egypt, COp cit., p. 87)
SUPERIORcarbonL1L2L3 4 months ago
@takfam07
You don’t know African history nor do you know world history to say the things you say. You subscribe to Eurocentric viewpoints, and you suffer from the white racial frame. The rest of what you wrote is irrelevant and not worth responding too.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
We read of Memnon, King of Ethiopia, in Greek mythology, to be exact in Homer's Iliad, where he leads an army of Elamites and Ethiopians to the assistance of King Priam in the Trojan War. His expedition is said to have started from the African Ethiopia and to have passed through Egypt on the way to Troy. According to Herodotus, Memnon was the founder of Susa, the chief city of the Elamites. " asserts Professor Rawlinson, built by Memnon both in Egypt and at Susa;
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EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
The ancient peoples of Mesopotamia are sometimes called the Chaldeans, but this is inaccurate and confusing. Before the Chaldean rule in Mesopotamia, there were the empires of the Sumerians, Akkadians, Babylonians and Assyrians. The earliest civilization of Mesopotamia was that of the Sumerians. They are designated in the Assyrio-Babylonian inscriptions as the BLACK-heads or BLACK-faced people. (Ancient Monarchies, Vol. I, Chap. 3.)
Black in Spanish is NEGRO, from Latin - NIGER
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
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EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
You didn't refute my point. I'm not talking about the Spanish language and "Negro." I'm talking 80,000 years ago! What proof is there that the modern humans who left Africa 80-100,000 years ago were black? That's the crucial point, dude. You're saying blacks were the "original race," and everyone sprung from original Negritude, so therefore blacks deserve credit for everyone's accomplishments. I'm saying there's no proof we all started out black. If we did, where's the evidence?
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07, As I have stated many times, we are not here to refute you. We are not interested in your point of view. We are African-Centered and thats what matters here. Maybe you will find more support for your believe among your own.
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
@EGYPTIANHISTORY How come when you can't answer a reasonable question, you always say "we're not here to refute you, we're African-centered," etc. What good is being "African-centered" if you cant stand up to argument and proof? See, that's why Africans had no science, never invented or discovered anything, had no philosophical systems. The whole Western scientific method rests on proof, testability. To be valid, a theory must survive constant testing. Afrocentrism simply can't measure up.
takfam07 4 months ago
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"Since the publication of Verneau's memoir, discoveries of other NEGROID SKELETONS in NEOLITHIC levels in ILLYRIA and the BALKANS have been announced. The prehistoric statues, dating from the COPPER AGE, from SULTAN SELO in BULGARIA are also thought to portray NEGROIDS."
-FOSSIL MEN by Marcellin Boule and Henri V. Vallois(1957)
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
@EGYPTIANHISTORY Boule and Vallois also said that Neandertals had no place in human ancestry. They believed that Neandertal was more apelike than human, had simian intelligence, and walked in an apelike gait. They totally misread the LaChappele Neandertal specimens. Recent DNA tests prove that all races (except blacks) have 2-4% Neandertal DNA. The "Grimaldi Skeletons" were manipulated by Belle and Vallois to appear Negroid." Not conclusive--and the only ambiguous ones ever found.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07 The Ethiopian origin of astronomy is beautifully explained by Count Volney in a passage in his Ruins of Empires, which is one of the glories of modern literature, and his argument is not based on guesses. He invokes the weighty authority of Charles F. Dupuis, whose three monumental works, The Origin of Constellations, The Origin of Worship and The Chronological Zodiac, are marvels of meticulous research.
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
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"The Ethiopians," says Lucian, page 985, "were the first who invented the science of the stars, and gave names to the planets, not at random and without meaning, but descriptive of the qualities which they conceived them to possess; and it was from them that this art passed, still in an imperfect state, to the Egyptians."
COUNT VOLNEY - THE RUINS
Count Volney- The ruins- page 17
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
@EGYPTIANHISTORY Better read real history, not Afrocentric stuff. Astronomy was first invented by the Mesopotamians (Sumerians, Assyrans, Babylonians, followed by Egypt (when it was run by Caucasoid peoples), Greece, india, China, and Mesoamerica. Ethiopians aren't mentioned in any peer-reviewed texts on ancient astronomy. Sorry.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07 Nimrod African founder of Mesoptamian makes it a Black state. No need to apologies, Nimrod is usually overlooked.
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
@takfam07 It was, then, on the borders of the upper Nile, among a black race of men, that was organized the complicated system of the worship of the stars, considered in relation to the productions of the earth and the labors of agriculture. … Thus the Ethiopian of Thebes named stars of inundation, or Aquarius, those stars under which the Nile began to overflow;
COUNT VOLNEY
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
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"So striking", writes Professor
Elliot Smith, "is the family likeness between the early Neolithic peoples of the British Isles and the Mediterranean and the bulk of the population, both ancient and modern, of Egypt and East Africa, that a description of the bones of an Early Briton of that remote epoch might apply in all essential details to an inhabitant of Somaliland."
-ANCIENT MAN IN BRITAIN by Donald Alexander Mackenzie(1922)
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
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The Learned Maurice says, Cuthited, i.e, Celts built the great temples in India and Britian and excvted thecaves of the former... and the Learned Mathematician - Rueben Burrow has no heistation in pronouncing STONEHENGE to be a temple of the BLACKS.
Anacalypsis page 59
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
@EGYPTIANHISTORY And how "learned" can they be with ludicrous claims like that? Stonehenge is black? Blacks have no concept of honor. This "African-centered" stuff is probably a joke, I know. But remember, black culture worldwide is such a disaster, most other races just shake their heads Poverty, disease, violent crime, illegitimacy, multiple teen pregnancy, drug abuse, lowest IQ and education, imprisonment, and gov't dependency--no exceptions. Is that what "African-centered" means?
takfam07 4 months ago
I'm trying to figure something out. If all this is true, and blacks built glorious ancient civilizations and taught the Phoenicians, Egyptians, Greeks, etc...what happened? How did they go from being so brilliant, to being the most impoverished, underdeveloped, dependent, lowest IQ race on the planet today? There is no significant population of blacks today that is not characterized by poverty, disease, violence, dependence on foreign aid, disorder, and lack of morals and honor. How come?
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07
Your comments, especially the one you just posted, reflect your ignorance on world history. How intelligent is it to measure the history of a people based on their present condition. Say a thousand years from now all Europeans countries went impoverish and somebody claimed that Europeans never contributed to development of modern civilization in 21th centuries because they all are poor people today. How logical is that position?
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 OK, you're right. That's an intelligent commentary. So what do blacks to now? As an East Asian American, I am fortunate that my culture has triumphed over past injustice or whatever. I don't claim to have anything to do with their advancement, but it does wonders for the psyche to know your peeps can hang with the best--socioeconomically, technologically. I would like blacks to enjoy the same. but I can see their thinking and actions haven't yet coalesced to make that happen.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07 I think people misinterpret blacks acknowledging other black civilizations as a claimed to racial superiority or racial uplifting. I always found that notion quite ironic seeing as how the notion that Christopher Columbus discovered America, the white Jesus image, and Aryans were the founders of Greek civilizations seems like racial uplifting history used to do, like you said, “wonders on the psyche” of white people.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Afrocentrists go beyond just acknowledging black civilizations. They propound a racist doctrine of black biological superiority. Which started just as whites were eradicating the notion of white biological supremacy. Sure, blacks feel that whitening Jesus or whatever is disingenuous. But the vast majority of Christian blacks arrived at Jesus through whites. And Greeks weren't Scandinavian, but they were Caucasian. Anyway, you can deconstruct all of it. But what will it solve?
takfam07 4 months ago
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Although I’m not Afrocentric I don’t think you know what Afrocentrism is about. You don’t know history either, Christianity was in Africa before Europe, and blacks were Christians long before whites. Some of the early church fathers were African. It’s important to note ancient Greeks never viewed themselves as “white”, especially if you read the work of Aristotle. It’s all about presenting the truth.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Christianity in Africa may have preceded Europe, but it wasn't black Africans that brought it to Europe. And it has nothing to do with Jesus' race, as he wasn't black, he was Semitic (if he existed at all). I studied ancient Greek history at Harvard under Greg Nagy, David Mitten and other renowned classicists and archaeologists. I traveled to Greece twice for research. They were and are Caucasian people. Pindaric Odes, bas reliefs, red and black vase paintings --white people.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07
I never said Africans brought it into Europe it was spread from western Asia. You said that whites introduced Christianity to Africans, which is false. I never said that Greeks were not white. I said they never viewed themselves as the same as other white people. They would be horrified to know they are lumped in the same category of whites, especially northern Europeans, people who they viewed as barbarians. By the way, I never said Jesus was black but that he wasn't white.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@blackhaze21 Then we move to the contentious issue of "what is white?" I guess it's possible that the early taxonomic classification of races might've had a racist agenda. The three broad categories still in use-- Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid --reflect the "candelabra" approach to racial definitions. You're right, Greeks favored dark skin as a sign of masculinity, bravery, strength. To be pale or "white" was to be un-manly. As for Jesus, he was Semitic--wouldn't that be "white"?
takfam07 4 months ago
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I don’t subscribe to the notion of race, for this is not enough evidence to prove that there is something called a “race”. Well, Semitic is not really an ethnic term but a linguistic term. Jesus was not white, he did not have any European ancestry.
blackhaze21 4 months ago
@takfam07 Semitic doesn't mean white & I can prove it with a Dictionary, LOL!
cgreenartpro1 4 months ago
@takfam07 Where does it say anywhere in the Bible that Jesus was a Whiteman?
From White People?
Show us where in the Bible it says that then your theory will have some validity but until then, it's just White Supremacist Garbage. LOL!
cgreenartpro1 4 months ago
@cgreenartpro1 First of all, why would you cite the Bible as historical proof of anything? At best, it is an ancient text that should be corroborated with other texts and forensic evidence to arrive as close to historical fact as possible. Second, Jesus was undoubtedly Semitic, given the region and era he was purportedly from. Semites are classified as Caucasian. If you don't think so, then take it up with ethnologists. I'm sure they'd love to hear yet more Afrocentric reasoning.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07 taught the Phoenicians, Egyptians, Greeks9A) etc are all Africa Origins.
TheJones1957 4 months ago
@TheJones1957 I do not disagree that we ALL are of African origin. Our DNA shows it, fossil evidence still points to it. So of course the ancestors of Phoenicians, Egyptians, Greeks, Europeans, Chinese, etc.--were all African at some point. Modern humans left Africa 80-100,000 years ago, but were they necessarily black or Negroid? I would contend that Negroid, Caucasoid and Mongoloid racial groups evolved AFTER that diaspora, because it was still the Ice Age when the latter two left.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07, Yes modern human left Africa, but they were still black. Phoenican is a Greek word for PUNIC-PUN-PUNT. Egypt is a Greek word for '' temple of Ptah. Ptah was ANU, BES, KHOISAN whom caucasains called pygmies. Europe gets the name from the PHOENICAN lady Europa sister of Cadmus the black man. Chinese Professor Jin Li ran DNA test ans conclusely stated that there was no such thing as Peking man, thusly their ancestor were Black...., This only leaves the albino.
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
@EGYPTIANHISTORY
The question tafam07 should be asking himself is are there any White Pygmies in Africa ?, LOL!
He's a DUNCEKID, man, I told him the Word "Semitic" doesn't mean, White & I can prove it with a Dictionary. LOL!
cgreenartpro1 4 months ago
@cgreenartpro1 , yes they are mad because the BS does not work anymore.
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
@EGYPTIANHISTORY Linguistics do not confirm race. All cultures have different usages of the term "black." My pure Japanese uncle was nicknamed "Blackie" because he was so dark. But he was most assuredly not Negroid. And the Chinese ancestral DNA studies conclude that they have African origins, yes. But African does not mean Negroid, especially when discussing happenings 80,000 years ago, during the Ice Age. Like I said, peoples who stayed in Africa BECAME Negroid--after the others left.
takfam07 4 months ago
@takfam07, We can care less what they called your uncle. Yes African means NEGRO ''spanish word for Black''.
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
@takfam07 If you search the video on youtube called '' FAMILY WALKS ON ALL FOURS''. this is of your ancestors. Note the differences between them in my Nilotic builders of African that stayed and built structures that have the world in awe to this very day.
EGYPTIANHISTORY 4 months ago
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Shalom .... 1st i wanna give praise to the most high yaweh, 2nd off how about we stand as a people (blackman & woman), go back to africa & demand our own government .... we need our own country,army,politicians,kings&queens, & our own way of life not the ones we have now in america shalom isalam salakem !!!!!! please help spread the message (allthingsnew) 2012
King0fAfrica 4 months ago
ethiopia and kenya are artificial countries, neither of them belongs to ancient egypt. but Somalis were the fathers of the ancient egyptians, and pharaoh himself was a somali. ethiopians came from yemen and they are arabs, kenya is a collection of negroids from mozambique and central africa, and the land mass currently named to be ethiopia and kenya is indeed a SOMALI LAND, it belongs to Somalis (Punt), the capital of land of gods. pharaoh himself came from land of gods and he declared to be god
PuntHornofSomalia 4 months ago
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How can one speak about the history of the word Ham, Shem, and japheth without using the source where it originates? Its either you don't believe in the theory of Ham, Shem, and Japhate or you do. No reason to play games and deny what the source says just because it does not support your bias view, and makes you feel inferior about yourself.
Shortyjored88 4 months ago
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Shortyjored88 4 months ago
How can one speak about the history of the word Ham, Shem, and japhate without using the source where it originates? Its either you don't believe in the theory of Ham, Shem, and Japhate or you do. No reason to play games and deny what the source says just because it does not support your bias view, and makes you feel inferior about yourself.
Shortyjored88 4 months ago
This troll's is an example to what extent a racist is willing to go deny the truth about black people. Even when the Old Testament itself, translates what is also found in the Torah states that Nimrod was Cushite of Ham . This is not good enough for this troll who have yet to show where I lie. He claims what is written in clear print is a lie because, he can't let go of the lies that the devil have taught him. Clearly he has yet to prove the lie otherwise and has no credibility.
Shortyjored88 4 months ago
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Shortyjored88 4 months ago
Your speak rhetorically and give me no examples of which of your mythical "facts" I am unable to dispute. That's how the Nation of Islam attracts new and foolish members, they speak in circles as you do so well. That technique may work on a negro, but its doesn't work with an intelligent White Man. As far as I have seen your comments give NO "facts" or even speculation, but merely talk around the issues leave nothing but "air" for me to debate. You bore me. You leave many words but SAY nothing.
Prometheus3912 4 months ago
@Prometheus3912
I think you were talking about yourself because you're the one going in circles. Intelligent white man? Please don't faltter yourself. You just cried how ancient qoutes are queationable despite never demostatreing that they are. As far the facts are concern, you are on my video forum. My facts are in my video but you haven't disputing anything. Your whole stragey is to play the undermine game, but we wont play that game. I'm waiting for you to prove me.
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Shortyjored88 4 months ago
@Prometheus2912....eh dude, you hate me for nothing but the color of my skin....who taught you to do that....the same ppl responsible for teaching me that crazy shit. Whether you hate me or not, what difference does it make....ur hate is just gonna burn inside your own soul, not mines. Accept the All-Pervasive Maat as the truth and that act alone will begin to heal you my son!
Tiarka 4 months ago
@Tiarka Actually I hate your message - your sources for you statements are vague or not given. I repeat, I don't have confidence in 2,000 year old Greek quotes unless they are carved in stone. The New Testament and most of the Old Testament have been revised many times since 200-300 CE for political reasons. There is proof of this. Perhaps I DON"T hate you because I feel no burning inside. My soul is not in need of healing, I am totally comfortable with my feeling and beliefs. But thank you.
Prometheus3912 4 months ago
Now if you are going to use the idea that Mesopotamia was the first civilization, remember it was AFTER THE FLOOD, (don't forget there were civilizations before the flood that were destroy). Also don't ignore the founder of Babylon and claim it was a Shemite civilization, Nimrod the founder was Cushite of Ham, the Torah and Bible states that clearly so that people will not confuse Kush with Shem. That is why Ham and Cush are written in Nimrods geneaology.
Shortyjored88 4 months ago
When you talk about civilization starting in the middle east to try to say that blacks were not in ME, you run into the issue of Nimrod. Not only does it say he is Cushite, but also of Ham just in case liars try to say this Kushite is a Semite. Anything different than this, is not from the Torah or Bible because these sources very specific about who was living where. Now the only reason people bring up Mesopotamia is because of the bible said so. Yet they ignore the balck Nimrod part.
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Shortyjored88 4 months ago
...that Greeks and Africans were absolutely in love with one another. 16th century historians try to deliberately distort that. There is only one race. White people trace their ancestry back to a black woman. We all do. That's the truth. You were not made in His image or likeness (white, invisible guy in the sky cursing Africans). But you were made in Her image and likeness. (The black woman isGod, fool!)
Tiarka 4 months ago
Brothers and sistas, please don't argue with white ppl about what we are now beginning to know to be true. They have been just as mis-educated and mis-informermed concerning black people. Rich whites try to get the the poor whites to stay in an ignorant mentality to protect their interests. I don't know quite about the Romans, but we are beginning to learn....
Tiarka 4 months ago
@Tiarka Actually, WE had "Black History" classes forced down our fucken throats. We don't want to be educated about YOU. We don't care. We, like Black Muslims feel towards our race, HATE you, think you are the DEVIL and wait anxiously for YOUR day to come. Africa, with 85% of the worlds AIDS cases and its 61 territories and their constant civil wars and millions of deaths and the 76,000 people crammed into small refugee camps, starving and with no drinkable water will soon be extinct.
Prometheus3912 4 months ago
@Tiarka Shikhamana.. 'Brothers and sistas, please don't argue with white ppl about what we are now beginning to know to be true'.. I second this emphatically. We as Ba-Kongo have entirely too much work to do in the Education of Right Knowledge for Our Own People to waste time with nonsensical and inarguable 'arguments' with others. You may find an interest in My Lessons and Questions. My Lesson 302 pertains specifically to what you aver in this post Ndugu. I look forward to building with you..
TStheEducator 4 months ago
There are two variants of the black race: (a) straight-haired, represented in Asia by the Dravidians and in Africa by the Nubians and the Tubbou or Tedda, all three with jet-black skins; (b) the kinky-haired blacks of the Equatorial regions. Both types entered into the composition of the Egyptian population
Research: Badarian and Naqada Cultures
dudley1957 4 months ago
; subsequent methodological progress in the domain of physical anthropology in no way undermines what is called the 'Lepsius canon' which, in round figures, gives the bodily proportions of the ideal Egyptian, short-armed and of negroid or negrito physical
dudley1957 4 months ago
Among the criteria accepted in physical anthropology for classifying races, the osteological measurements are perhaps the least misleading (in contrast to craniometry) for distinguishing a black man from a white man. By this criterion, also, the Egyptians belong among the black races. This study was made by the distinguished German savant Lepsius at the end of the nineteenth century and his conclusions remain valid
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richard33596 4 months ago
Excellent video. keep them coming
MsDreddie 5 months ago
One other thing that beginners should look at also is in the pyramid times, you had these races around the world, Greek people, the Mesapatomian/asian people, the Ethiopian people and the native people of the so called americas, these were the different races you had at this time, now if you know the truth about the Ancient Ethiopians, who matches when it comes to pryramid building and hieroglyphs and buring their kings in pyramids. Bingo The Ethiopians, but nobody is telling that story
southbr28 5 months ago
Also another topic for beginners to know is that, most white and black scholors teach that these fraud pharaohs of the hyksos, mesapatomians, and greek, at the time they won war or obtained small parts of land, they make it look like they were king of the Ci-Koma or what they call king of Egypt, but this is not true because at this same time you always had a true or native king repersenting the whole nile valley, but they were never recognized, in books that later came in our modern times.
southbr28 5 months ago
For all yall people who have just began looking at the so called A.Egyptian history, their are three parts to really look at, first is when the hyksos people took land from the Ethiopians/Ba-Kongos(we obtained it back), second when the mesapatomians/assyrians took land from the Eth/BaKO(we obtained it back), and third when the Greeks took land from the Eth/Bako, this three wars only happened in the delta and this land was small compared to the Whole Nile Valley which was always gov by the Eth/Ba
southbr28 5 months ago
And also have any of yall wondered why when it comes to these white scholors reasearching about nubians/ethiopians/ku-kongos, that they can't find a king between menes to I'll say a little before the 25th dynasty, as King of the so called split nation to the south called Kush or Ethiopia, why because Ethiopia or Ci-Koma was one nation from the Med Sea all the way down, the Ethiopians defeating the egyptians in the 25th d is a lie, its just about us kicking foreigners out of our nation Eth/CkMA.
southbr28 5 months ago
So everybody lets get this straight this egyptians taught the ethiopians/nubians/Ku-Kongos is not true, if you know the whole story (Greeks, only ones calling their selves egyptians) (egyptian meaning greek person living in the delta area), then everybody would know that the Ethiopians/Ku-Kongos were the natives, and this whole big craze about the so called Egypt, is really about Ethiopia or Ci-Koma (One Nation-the nile valley).
southbr28 5 months ago
And to the person who made this video, it is a great video, but I hope he understands that the Ethiopians/Nubians/Kushites what he is calling them, that they were not the last blacks to rule Egypt, because the Egypt that he is speaking of is just lost land in the delta or lost land in our nation of Ethiopia or Ci-Koma, we have always ruled most of the nile.
southbr28 5 months ago
@southbr28 'because the Egypt that he is speaking of is just lost land in the delta or lost land in our nation of Ethiopia or Ci-Koma, we have always ruled most of the nile'.. Wisely stated. The first thing that Our People need to do is erase the geographic and language division implanted into Them by the euroarabasian. With this alteration of Consciousness, then Our People will Overstand that what is now Known as 'Afrika', 'Middle East', 'India', 'Americas' 'Asia' and 'Australia' was Ku-Kongo.
TStheEducator 5 months ago
@TStheEducator The paramount Reason for not having to argue with the euroarabasian about Ourstory is because he did not *exist* during the body of Ourstory. he did not leave the caves until yesterday.. in comparison to the millions of years of Ourstory. he even says this himself.. saying that in the span of time from Jan. 1 to Dec. 31.. his existence came about on probably the morning of new years eve.. Dec. 31 [S. Wells, 'The Journey of Man']. This is why We need not discuss whites in Ourstory.
TStheEducator 5 months ago
3:56 The First Gangster With A Gun. ;)
blkhyundaisonata 5 months ago
Very interesting information :)
LightenOurWorld 5 months ago
Kwa-Kongo-Weto.. Ba-Kuma [A.Egyptians] never said They were any other color than than Black. They also show reverence to Their NGoma continuously by the very use of Their name, and the word MR. I show this definitively in My Lesson 401. Shikhama..
TStheEducator 5 months ago
@TStheEducator Hey we might be on the same page or maybe not, do you believe that their were two different tribes of africans, around the pyramid times, because you call the A. Egyptians - Ba-Kuma, then who is the Ba-Kongo, you see I understand their might be different words for the Ancient Ethiopians, but what ever the word is for the the Ancient Ethiopians, what ever it maybe to you, they are the ones who everyone is crazed up about, their is no Egyptians.
southbr28 5 months ago
@southbr28 'A. Egyptians - Ba-Kuma, then who is the Ba-Kongo'.. Ba-Kuma is the Proper name of the first 'A.Egyptians'. They were Ba-Ntu and San Peoples.. hence the Red and Black skin variations. Ba-Kongo is Our Real Name.. as The Land of 'Afrika' is Ku-Kongo. This was also the name of the 'super-continent' misnomered 'pangaea'. Ba-Kuma called this KAANGA [KA-ANKH]. There is no such thing as an original 'Ethiopian', because it, and 'Egypt' are hellenik names. They both were part of Ci-Koma.
TStheEducator 5 months ago
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TStheEducator 5 months ago
@TStheEducator This is why.. when tracing the map of Ku-Kongo from Our Origins, traveling in all directions, you see the names: Kongolo [Kongo], Kongora [Sudan], Kong [Ivory Coast], etc. It is imperative that you Overstand that the majority of the Place and People Names you see of Ku-Kongo [Afrika] today are hellenik, romanus, arab or european. The great Dr. Chancellor Williams warns of the implications of these mis-understandings due to the Proper Names being lost.
TStheEducator 5 months ago
@TStheEducator What im trying to say is through my knowledge and research, there were no black africans living in South, or West Africa, in the pyramid times, if you were black african, then you lived and were from the nile valley. Now I might have the wrong name for the Ancient Ethiopians, but what ever they were called, they are our ancestors and are the ones who built cities like memphis and meroe, what im saying is you need to give me one word for these people, because their was no Egypt.
southbr28 5 months ago
@southbr28 'our ancestors and are the ones who built cities like memphis and meroe, what im saying is you need to give me one word for these people, because their was no Egypt'.. I will be doing a Lesson soon on KWSH [so-call Kush].. because this is also an incorrect Overstanding do to a simple mis-translation in the wrong language. KWSH is not 'Kush'.. but OCHOSHI, or OKOSI.. which represents the cosmological Powers summoned by the Hougou in the Dogon-Yorubaa Luwo systems.
TStheEducator 5 months ago
@TStheEducator Another thing, we may not be saying the words like our ancestors did, and its cool to know the real words, but still if you know, you know, just like in english and spanish, I watch the news in both languages, but got the same info, you know what im saying, like I may be not using the words my ancestors did, but I still understand the truth.
southbr28 5 months ago
@TStheEducator Like for instance you saying that the Ba-Kuma are the proper name for the A. Egyptians, then this is not true, what you should say is that the Ba-Kuma is the proper name for the A. Ethiopians, because the people who really called their self egyptians, didn't build pyramids and did not speak or write in hieroglyhs until they had some Ethiopian(Ba-Kuma) servants from war and land they won in the delta, these Ethiopians tought these foreigners how to write and speak the language.
southbr28 5 months ago
@southbr28 Anytime you speak of a 'delta'.. you are already speaking in the *post-dynastic period*.. because there was no 'delta' when Our People began in Ku-Kongo. There was no Mediterranean Sea. There were no other people.. period [no arab, Indian, european, Chinese, Japanese, none] except the San and Ba-Ntu. You keep counting *thousands* of years.. when We have inhabited the Land of Ku-Kongo for *millions*. Be very cautious speaking from the scholarship of a white man or arab.
TStheEducator 5 months ago