Pittsburgh Mayor Legally Changes Name - Mayor Steeler!

[gssc64]

Does this show actualy air on turkey or is it just made for the internet? 'Cause if this is what passes for news on turkey in sorry for the turks...

[silvananoir]

Hey man, having the rival teams name in your in Philly and your the mayor is a way to get killed. Philly fans aren't playing, their insane.

[curlyfry1106]

trust me

i live in pittsburgh

luke ravenstahl is a dumbass

[erinjaneln]

go Ravens!

[schratboy]

Young douche bags;

[dinobrya]

Put away childish things.

[BlackMambakins]

Oh its not a "us vs them" mentality hamm its a "logical open-minded vs the mental midgets of the world" reguardless of party or religious affilation or nationality. The world is changing with the new news media that are now asking the hard hitting questions the questions that actualy matter or have foundation or effect on america as a whole, the old news was fed info which in turn fed it to the public & was held as truth without question. Progression is always the way to go in my book. TYT Rox!

[BlackMambakins]

I blame the new media, the internet, TYT for opening up alot of peoples eyes and minds where befor the were under some religious rock.

[BlackMambakins]

Ham,What exactly is conservatives now days? People who talk the talk but dont walk the walk they are people who dictate rules and guidlines they themselves dont even follow let alone hold themselves acountable for. O'crappy has no room to talk just ask his former assistant who is suing him for sexual harrassment or ask rush mr drug addict or Faux News & their spewage of lies with no proof tactics, yet somehow "conservatives" listen to these morons & dont hold them accountable for their actions.

[mrbrownjohn]

Cenk Rolthlesburger

[moorcll]

and you're a steeler fan? i knew there was a reason i thought you were a smart guy! :)

[moorcll]

STEELERS!!

[moulingalette]

Steelerstahl = steeler stall. So steelers are going to stall against the ravens.

[strylowskia90]

Only in Pennsylvania...

I'm not into football but I always gotta vote for my home, GO RAVENS, and Cenk, not cool.

[witzkeyman]

gonna be a good game

[lehman]

GO RAVENS

[godzillaislarge]

L.O.L.

[crowdaddy13]

kinda like down here in texas when the cowboys and the buffalo bills played each other in the superbowl back in the 90's.....town of buffalo, texas changed its name to troy, texas.....after troy aikman.......fucking gay

[GovernmentGoneWild]

HELL YEA IM IN PA! EAGLES VS STEELERS Superbowl and EAGLES WIN! called it!

[RustyCyler]

im from central pa and agree with except for the STEELERS FOR THE WIN ! whoo hoo

[runway313]

I have no idea who to cheer for on sunday. The Raven and Steelers are my favorite teams. I might just learn toward the Steelers since my mom's favorite player was Franco harris

[climbercaver]

Go Steelers!!!!!

[flyingtorpedo]

If the Mayor was conservative Cenk would be calling him an absolute dumbass. This guy is so predictable.

[ViciousGX]

Nah, Cenk appreciate sports just as much as he appreciates politics.

and besides The Mayor changes his name for this week only to show support for his team.

[orientrat]

Uhh... You are saying he is predictable based on something that didn't happen. You can't say he is predictable if the thing you predicted didn't happen. Do you see what I mean?

[flyingtorpedo]

Ok here a prediction for you genius. He will never say anything positive about a conservative, and the next video he makes he will chastise Isreal, I know what comming out of his fat greasy mouth before he spews it out. Name me one conservative he thinks is a great American? I can name serveral Democrats myself and Im conservative. Cenk says nicer things about Osama Bin fucking Laden than any conservative.

[MrHolipsism]

Why do you name one Conservative you think is a good American? Unless the name RON PAUL gets typed out you are one extremely stupid mothafucka.

[flyingtorpedo]

How about Abraham Lincoln & Ronald Regan ya dumb bitch.

[MrHolipsism]

First, your moms is so old she knew the 10 Commandments when they were the 5 suggestions, Bitch. Second, FUCK Ronald Reagan. Third, if you have to go back to fuckin' Abe Lincoln to find a good conservative you just proved my fuckin' point, you steaming pile of monkey feces.

[flyingtorpedo]

Your clearly an idiot.

[MrHolipsism]

Coming from the idiot that went as far back as LINCOLN to think of a great American conservative. I'll just consider the source, moron.

[flyingtorpedo]

Theres lots of them, you media zombie.

[MrHolipsism]

Which of course is why you went back to Lincoln, huh? :-|

[johnedwards1968]

You think Lincoln was a conservative? lol. The Republicans were the liberals of that time. Nice try though.

[MrHolipsism]

I think you directed this at the wrong person, but...I agree with you.

[Umberto2]

Lincoln was no conservative.  He was a Republican when Republicans happened to be the more liberal party. Dems back then were all southern racists.

[flyingtorpedo]

Thats false the parties were never inverted as far as policies go.

[Umberto2]

you bet your ass they were. go back to school.

[flyingtorpedo]

Thats absolutely false, Republicans were more progressive but have always had constant oppisitions with the Democratic party. I hear alot of liberals try to say their roles were reversed when the fact is Democrats have never been fically conservative and have always been left of center, they have always been for "state right". It's merely an excuse to explain how the party used to stand for slavery. Just like Sen. Byrd is a racist he's a liberal today and would have opposed repubs then.

[Umberto2]

Republicans were the progressives in the 1800s - the social progressives. Democrats were nothing but southern bigots. This changed when the Republicans got in bed with the robber barons and became corrupted by uber elite and wealthy and fell into the BS "free-market" theories that brought us the first Republican Great Depression. The bottom line is that Lincoln was no conservative. Bill Clinton was more fiscally conservative than the last three Republican presidents we had. Get over that myth.

[flyingtorpedo]

I think we will have to just disagree on this. You probably think FDR was an hero too.

[Umberto2]

Well, there is fact and opinion and the historical record to examine. Some things aren't open for disagreement. They are either right or wrong. FDR saved this country from economic ruin, saved the middle class, and defeated the Axis powers in WWII. What about any of that would make him anything less than a hero?

[flyingtorpedo]

I don't know what the hell your talking about anymore. Barack Obama is spending 150 million dollars of taxpayers money on his inauguration. 5 times more than any other president in history.

The country is in Economic Turmoil. People are losing their jobs and homes. Yet, the government is spending 150 million dollars on a party. I guess this is the "change" we've been waiting for...

[Umberto2]

Way to change the subject. But, I agree with you 100% on the spending that's going into this inauguration. It's like, what you are you doing? Get to work and quit fucking around. What a waste of money.

[melowar78]

so true, don't you love irony?

[upabittoolate]

"Thats false the parties were never inverted as far as policies go. "

you need to study some history mate

[flyingtorpedo]

The foundations have never changed. Republicans just became less progressive and more conservative. Republicans were not the old democrats and Democrats were Republicans. Democrats have always favored liberalism. They didn't wake up and switch roles one day. Democrats say that to offset the old southern confederate states.

[HammandClov]

I somewhat agree with you, but you can put the blame on America there. People are so politically polarized now that it's a "them vs. us" mentality some people have. And all you hear ON Fox News is them berating Democrats. Here it's vice versa however, I do think Cenk is not that far left, even though it does seem otherwise. But blame America's news media for hyping the idea that you can't be in the middle. O'Reilly claims most people are not real conservatives but "slightly conservative".

[eirefrance]

Cenk has named Republicans and Bush appointees he likes in the past, Robert Gates being an example I can pull from memory. Cenk was once a Republican, so I bet he would have nice things to say about Reagan.

[orientrat]

Whoa calm down man. I wasn't trying to personally insult you, I got what you meant. I was just pointing out that you could've conveyed your message more clearly. That's all.

[ajc06]

Considering "stahl" is German for "steel," his original name was actually quite appropriate: "Ravensteel."

But now his name is "Steelersteel," which is just retarded. :-p

[upabittoolate]

so how do you say brassiere in german?

[BMWizardofOz]

"so how do you say brassiere in german?"

that would be Büstenhalter.

[upabittoolate]

no, you'd say "schtoppenfloppen"

[noot68]

Keepintitsfromfloppen

[upabittoolate]

i was hoping someone else was as juvenile as me. thanks for reminding me that i'm not alone. peace

[cheddyrod]

I think it is appropriate for a politician to be called Stealer, er I mean Stealer.

[me213516]

GO STEELERS!!!

Had no idea Cenk was a Steelers fan. Cool.

[PlayT0E]

It's a risk.

If the Steelers loose, then he can be accused of bringing them bad luck. ... But if they win, so does he win.

[Morr6565]

Philly's Mayor Nutter should change his name.  Mayor Eagle is much more cooler than Mayor Nutter. Anything is better than the name Mayor Nutter.

[DemonicGemini]

Nutter lol

[DemonicGemini]

Pittsburgh sucks ass cheeks long live Philly

[noyan000]

woww

[WKaliber1]

American footballs is for faggots

[ClintfromNYtoVA]

no just the 49ers

[DemonicGemini]

suck my balls pip

[WKaliber1]

no thank you, I'm not gay

but being American, you might find a lot of young men who would like to suck your balls for you

[DemonicGemini]

hey dude England has fag bags too like your dad and the prince there is nothing wrong with gay people so your comment was lame

[WKaliber1]

I never said there was. Being black, you are obviously unable to read correctly so I understand your mistake.

[chefawkes]

hmmm.. interesting. we don't usually get too many racists on here.

[upabittoolate]

funny, you try to snipe at someone for their skin color but your channel celebrates a black medium of expression: hiphop. you're such an idiot it's not funny. you remind me of the punchline for every joke about polish people ever written; except let's substitute WKaliber1 in the leadlines. imbecile

[Unekwu89]

yeah just to save you some time DONT reply to WKaliber1 he just says stuff to piss people off.

dont get worked up over him

[upabittoolate]

soccer is for floppers who can't run fast enough, aren't big enough, have no skill enough or aren't man enough to play gridiron football. i have respect for rugby because they get busy. but spare me the eurotrash indignance about a clearly superior game with clearly superior athletes. face it, the best athletes play here & they play american sports.

[WKaliber1]

no, they're just overgrown monkey who run for 15 seconds in motorcycle gear and then sit down for a time out while a commercial turns on the tv

american football is for weak pussies

FOOTBALL (not soccer you american cunt) currently has about 100 players who can run the 200 meters in olympic time

[upabittoolate]

the only 1 acting primitive & monkeylike right now is you. you can call me all the names you like but the reality is that you couldn't best me or most of those guys in the NFL. incidentally, gridiron football's origins are actually european although the game is most like indian chess. also, your soccer players can't make that same run 250lb men chasing them while wearing that "motorcycle gear". sure, there are some fine athletes in soccer. but none could match up to any NFL halfbacks. N O N E

[WKaliber1]

please give me the stats of how much an average NFL player actually runs during a game? during an average soccer game, a player runs about 20 miles with little or no stops, only break is during halftime

they dont sit on their asses every 15 seconds during a time out

[upabittoolate]

no need, the average running back is running 11-15mph on a given play. the box [o-line+d-line], which collapses on the tailback during a tackle, weighs a TON. the linemen are all capable of benching well over 300lbs. in addition, the sweeper isn't going down to the other net. the striker doesn't play defense. either way, no one except the goalkeeper is playing minutes extending 8min stints. the ironman on a soccer field is the midfielder. a gridiron running back is a superior athlete

[upabittoolate]

... don't get me wrong, i understand the amount of athleticism & the degree of endurance it requires to be a professional soccer player. but the fastest soccer player can't catch the fastest football player (not that it matters because you have to dribble the ball in soccer). BUT, a gridiron running back has to block 250lb linebackers running 13mph, they have to pick defensive ends & tackles with comparable speed & massive strength upper body strength.

[upabittoolate]

a center has to accurately deliver the ball & block 320lb men slapping at his ears in a split second. a flanker is catching a ball being thrown at speeds comparable to a baseball being thrown at 70-90mph. yes, a goalie has to survive the onslaught of 10 different kickers but it's a different skill set. it's all a matter of different skill sets. also, there are more world class sprinters in gridiron football than in soccer

[upabittoolate]

bottom line, it's an issue of personal preference & application of certain skill sets. it's actually apples & oranges BUT, gridiron football is a larger, juicer, heartier fruit. sure, i couldn't imagine covering freddie adu on a soccer field (i'd stay with him but he'd get off a kick at will). but wearing pads & running a post play, adu would be helpless. believe that. think of another analogy, imagine the game in soccer if someone with NFL, CFL, or even NCAAF size & ability played soccer? c'mon

[upabittoolate]

as far as how much the "average NFL player runs" is problematic. are we talking arithmetic or geometric means, modes or medians. also, you need to consider the fact that certain players block (which entails powerlifting & punching), certain players run short routes & sustain hits (imagine a simple, f=ma vector equation), certain players have to matriculate & outthink the other 11 players while throwing the ball across large fractions of an acre (timing, strength, coordination & intellect)...

[upabittoolate]

...so your notion of "average football player" makes very little sense. that's tantamount to asking me about a bowler's ability as a batsman in a game of cricket. that's like trying to race me in a 1/4 mile on my motorcycle & driving a car. do you understand now?

[WKaliber1]

no because you're just making excuses after losing the argument

clutching at straws i see

[upabittoolate]

making excuses after losing the argument? clutching at straws? you evidently aren't processing the evidence i presented. if you did, you'd have seen that i made a comparisons, used analogies & presented factual evidence. perhaps you don't understand the dynamics of the game, that's fine. but american football players are superior athletes. you have a stylistic preference but otherwise, you're just being dumb if you think soccer is somehow more requisite of athletic prowess

[WKaliber1]

in american football you dont have to have talent, just bulk

In soccer, you have real talented athletes of all shapes and sizes, there is much variation for what is needed

skill, speed, agility, endurance, strength, ball control, positioning... the list goes on

in football, you just need to be big OR throw a fucked up ball far enough OR be quick in a 50 yard sprint

[upabittoolate]

dude, the tallest soccer player of any note wasn't any bigger than about 6'3". the fastest runner isn't breaking 4.8 in a 40yd dash. spare me that lie. i've already illustrated the caveat with your analysis about endurance. i've already illustrated the difference in specialized players too. nevertheless, the depiction of players being merely big but lacking skill means that you don't really understand (rather you don't want to understand) the nuances. we're done here

[WKaliber1]

what lie? you must have misread something

where did I say the best soccer players were tall? What difference does that make?

you're hiding behind plenty of articulate words because what you have to say has no substance

please tell me the skill in being able to block another 300lb gorilla? nope, just bulk

[upabittoolate]

you said that football was all about size. also, complaining about word selection isn't going to obscure my point. the superior athletes play FOOTBALL not kickball

[WKaliber1]

thats your opinion and I see you are getting frustrated with the fact that I begin to expose your game for what it really is, a fraud

I would say most of the world would disagree with you and your rip off of rugby is laughable

[upabittoolate]

frustrated? nah, just observant of your lack of depth. as far as "exposing" a multi-billion dollar institution as "fraud", good luck with all that. also, "rugby ripoff" claim is nonsense. i play rugby myself & have a good time. but most rugby players respect gridiron football because they understand what it means to run, catch, tackle & throw. you evidently do not. it's your ignorance that's initially laughable. then after seeing how your racism compounds it, your ignorance is sad. godspeed

[WKaliber1]

now resorting to calling me a racist? thats a no no as well as being a sing of a beaten man

I would just like to point out that the number one and number two most valuable teams in sports are Manchester United and Real Madrid, yes, soccer teams

[upabittoolate]

no. i've seen you say things like "you're black so i know you can't read" before now. i've also witnessed you call american football players "monkeys" & "gorillas". dude, i understand racist, code speech. i understand racist, not-so code speech. that's fine by me but don't lie about it. as far as "most valuable teams" goes, try comparing the aggregate value of comparable LEAGUE. or even a geometric mean of said aggregate values. otherwise, you're just talking w/o real insight

[WKaliber1]

If you wanna change the rules then fine. NFL is certainly most valuable league in USA, but it does not hold a candle to English Premier League, Spanish League, even Italian league around the world.

[upabittoolate]

change the rules? how do you figure? i simply said that you can't use that as a measuring tool unless you factor in ALL the components. what i said was to compare the price tag of the ENTIRE league. that's fair, balanced & objective. you're cherry picking. stop that

[WKaliber1]

and so I responded that if you figure in all the teams in the NFL and all the teams in the English League, the English league would still be much more marketable(and is) around the world

[upabittoolate]

maybe so. maybe not. you said something about the aggregate value of 2 teams. i said to quantify the value of the 2 leagues. so you changed the parameters from liquidation (a concrete reality) value to potential marketability (an abstract potentiality). it appears that it's you that just tried to change the rules. given the fact that we were talking about the ability of the athletes & not how much the owners get paid

[WKaliber1]

you started it by mentioning NFL as a "a multi-billion dollar institution "

[upabittoolate]

it is a multi-billion dollar institution. but either way, you won't win with that as a quantitative measure either. i mentioned the monetary aspect because that's applicable as far as "seriousness" goes.

[WKaliber1]

well, you lost as you failed to convince me that football players are superior athletes to anyone except bowlers and golfers

[upabittoolate]

my aim wasn't to convince you of anything. my aim was to educate you. you evidently didn't know any better. as far as debate goes (since you think this is a debate), i gave ample support & cut you at the pass more than once. debate is about supporting a premise with rhetoric & evidence. but no one is keeping score here. i'm just letting you know what the truth is. enjoy soccer; have a jingoistic devotion to soccer. you're allowed. but the better athletes are in football. i proved that

[upabittoolate]

in fact let's do this. name the athletic category (you tried to name some but writing ain't your strength) & i'll name the athlete. we can make some simple lists & compare who is quantitatively superior. you've already declared the size advantage for my guys so we don't have to list that 1. either way, i'll still win the argument. your move

[WKaliber1]

why is not writing my strength? considering English is my third language, I showed the capability to write coherent sentences albeit with sometimes incorrect punctuations and capitalizations

the size advantage is often useless in soccer which is another reason why soccer is better and played more universally - you have to have the talent, not the size and those are two different things

the point is not to have one quality but to bring all the qualities into one

[upabittoolate]

congratulations. englis is actually my 2nd language. let me rephrase that: you're obviously. not an intellectual. quality or quantity of one variable or another is only important in practical application. also, soccer isn't played universally because it's implicitly better. soccer is "universally" because it's primarily a western european game & western european culture has permeated the world. talent isn't really an issue considering the fact that adu, balboa & the great pele are americans.

[WKaliber1]

since when is pele american? lol

Adu is crap. He was born in Africa anyway. But thats beside the point.

cristiano ronaldo for example- amazing athlete, amazing speed, incredibly quick feet, fantastic endurance and a great leap

he can't lift all that much but he doesnt need to lift anything, but still has great upper body strength

are you trying to insult me calling me not an pseudo-intellectual on our hands

[upabittoolate]

pele was IS american; SOUTH AMERICAN. freddie adu is world class. you can call me any pseudo-intellectual you like. you're still not an intellectual; pseudo- or otherwise. ronaldo is downright brilliant. he's an all time great & the best passer i've ever seen. but he couldn't hold a candle to a reserve HB in the NFL, let alone all-pro or HoFer in ANY area (except perhaps endurance & i guarantee NFLers run a faster mile). & even then, winger's are specialists who don't run the whole field

[upabittoolate]

what you're not getting is this: on a given play, a running back is running, in upwards of, 15mph. wide receivers top 20mph. this is all done 30lbs of armor. yes, a soccer player is dribbling a ball & being chased by other men. BUT the damage a sweeper can do is marginal compared to what an nfl safety can do. would you prefer your chances of being hit by carlos valerama or by darrell green (padless)? the answer is the former.

[upabittoolate]

PS, freddie adu became a citizen when he was 8yrs old. he grew up in maryland. that makes him AMERICAN. please, do some research. i did mine & i actually enjoy soccer when i can see it. i prefer latin leagues because that's my first language & i love hearing the announcers get excited. yes, the quality of the game isn't as crisp as the uefa or some other euro clubs but their game is faster than euro clubs. as an observer of sports & as an athlete, i can tell you soccer has ZERO on gridiron

[WKaliber1]

and i can tell you the opposite, and since you are not more qualified than me, we're at a standstill huh

[upabittoolate]

but you can't tell me the opposite. you can't qualify it so i suggested quantifying it. you elected not to discuss it in those terms. it's not a standstill because you don't really have any legs upon which to stand. like i said, it's not about win or lose. this is an issue of the superior athlete. you know can't so you used avoidance altogether. nice trick; losing but trying to declare a tie. i'll accept your concession. good day sir

[WKaliber1]

another sign of a pseudo-intellectual

you are below my level

[upabittoolate]

my friend, you're not even in the same dimension as me let alone near my level. either way, i'm waiting for you to render some real DATA. you named 1 soccer player with ability. i named 3 americans that play the same game. you haven't even tried to meet me on a common ground. you can call me all the names you like. but you still haven't satisfied any of the very parameters that YOU have set. in webspeak: you're self-pwned. good day sir

[WKaliber1]

do you really want me to name all the players that are superior? didier drogba, samuel eto, david suazo, rio ferdinand, fernando torres, owen hargreaves and that just off the top of my head

if we are talking about bulk and actual upper body strength, then Adriano, Didier Drogba, nemaja vidic, Jaap Stam all can hang with some football players in those terms

[upabittoolate]

no. i said name a player & list their measured abilities; like they do in the NFL combine. they measure times in a mile run, 40yd dash, lateral tests, times in plyometric drills, vertical jumps, bench press ability, clean + press abilities, deadlift abilities & bicep curls. NFL players will beat soccer players any day of the week & twice on sunday. soccer's BEST couldn't with the nfl's 2nd string. checkmate

[WKaliber1]

why the self-proclaimed check mate if you do not know the stats for the soccer players as you admitted yourself

[upabittoolate]

i don't need to know the stats of the soccer players because i have a working knowledge of the enumerated measures of the nfl players. you can ask any statistician or kinesiologist, trainer or sports scientist. they'll tell you the same thing: nfl skill players, on average, are faster in a sprint & can lift more. it's the nature of their game. this doesn't detract from soccer; it's just a different set of specialized skills. why aren't you getting that? are you really this stupid?

[WKaliber1]

you were the one who compared the two in the first place

you selfPWNED yourself

[upabittoolate]

no. i compared athletic ability among professional athletes. american football players have more. you can say whatever you want but you haven't offered ANY data. point. set. match. later for you loWKaliber0

[WKaliber1]

Because there is no such data. All the data I have is the speed at which the ball is kicked and speed of the players, which ranges from 18mph to 23 mph for the quicker players

[upabittoolate]

of course. nice sandbag. you lost. a football is thrown at around 30-45mph btw. good day sir

[WKaliber1]

not that i provided you with evidence you back out? hahah how pitiful

[upabittoolate]

you haven't provided me with any evidence. you said that kicks in soccer move with less velocity than passes in football. the way i see it, that's 1 for gridiron & zero for soccer by your own admission. since you already declared a size advantage for my side, that makes it 2-0. we actually measure our guys using scientific method. you just drop some names. 3-0. do we really need to continue?

[WKaliber1]

you must have misread it, i said that I KNOW THE SPEED of the ball when its kicked and the speed of the players, which ranges from ....

the actual shots are around 50-60 mph

[upabittoolate]

idiot, husain bolt, the world's fastest man runs around 21mph. you're telling me that a soccer player, who's dribbling a ball, is running 2mph faster than an olympic sprinter? moron. i could see if a soccer player entered the annual competition for that particular title or was a sprinter. but they don't you lose that 1 buddy. rotfl

[WKaliber1]

thats why in the previous reply i provided you with the times WITH the ball and WITOUT the ball. Gabrial Agbonlahor was clocked at 20.8mph and those are official Barcalys Premier League and FA stats, not my imagination

[upabittoolate]

any european league would enumerate things in metric units. you're already engaging in a natural fallacy. also, i doubt that they actually measure that. show me where it says that.

[WKaliber1]

its not a EUROPEAN league per say, its an English league

they use miles and feet and yards and gallons

google "sky sports who is the fastest" and click Head to Head Stats at the bottom

[upabittoolate]

dude, those aren't stats from a flat out sprints 1st of all. 2nd of all, that's not official in a real competition. that's an exhibition to sell soccer tickets. you lose

[WKaliber1]

the stats were obtained by OPTA sports data, which are respected internationally

[upabittoolate]

fyi. many gridiron halfbacks (wide receivers) enter the race for the world's fastest man. i can't remember ANY footballers entering in that competition. nevertheless, if you expect me to believe a footballer is running 23mph in a sprint; let alone while being slide tackled by midfielders; let alone trying to take the ball along for the trip, you're stupid. like i said, gridiron football players are measured; down to how fast they blink. soccer ain't touching that my friend

[upabittoolate]

reggie bush runs 40yds in 4.33 seconds. that equates to approx 19mph. he's not even the fastest. the fastest is 19.86mph. there's no footballer coming CLOSE to that. do we need to talk about feats of strength? vertical leap? how fast the qbs throw? actually 30-45mph is a mean. consider the fact that qbs often get drafted in baseball. a major league pitcher is hurling a baseball at 80-100mph. need i say more?

[WKaliber1]

you're wrong

Gabriel Agbonlahor has a speed of 22 mph without the ball and 21 without it. Cristiano Ronaldo can do 21mph without the ball, 20 with it. Wayne Rooney 20.8, The Walcott 20.5 and thats just in the English league

[upabittoolate]

where can you confirm that. i showed you where that i found my data. also, you're confusing kilometers with miles. easy mistake, you're not american. you're forgiven. but show me some real data & the source before you declare that you're correct

[WKaliber1]

google "sky sports who is the fastest"

and I didn't make a mistake, its in mph

[upabittoolate]

dude, those aren't flat out sprints. you can't even give me something official. pathetic

[WKaliber1]

so what are they? if they aren't flat out sprints then they can only be faster right? 1-0 to me

[upabittoolate]

dude, it's not a sprint. it's weighted stati asked you who runs faster in a sprint not who runs faster according to some mathematical application. you went to a marketing campaign & called that a statistical analysis? try again

[WKaliber1]

I repeat, OPTA sports data

[upabittoolate]

internationally respected my ass. they're acknowledged in the western european rugby/soccer community. nowhere else. either way, it was a marketing campaign not a competitive event or evaluation session. you can't be serious. you actually pulled that out of your ass. i'm literally smh. you lose bro

[WKaliber1]

I see that you cannot accept that you lost an argument through factual data I presented.

I can also take that stance and deny any statistics you provide me as a marketing tool and dismiss them. I see you're acting a fool as your argument crumbles.

[upabittoolate]

you didn't give a fact. 1st of all, the "stats" are recorded in a flat out race. they were weighted numbers & the time periods exceeded 30 seconds. i'll consider them as anecdotal evidence but definitely not real quantitative data. i asked you who's the fastest in a sprint not who's the fastest after factoring the ball & the person against whom you're competing. it's not the same thing. i haven't 'lost' anything. you can't render any conclusive data. jeez are you educated or not?

[WKaliber1]

also, if it was a marketing trick(by nike) you wouldn't have players playing for the teams sponsored by puma, adidas, diadora and umbro on that list

[upabittoolate]

dude, the teams have nothing to do with the contracts of individual PLAYERS. they were all on nike deals when they participated. your data is inconclusive. try again

[upabittoolate]

peep this:

nfl (.) c o m / combine / top-performers

if that's not sufficient quantitative data let me know. there's plenty more is you'd like to see it. i digress. lookit, i never said that soccer wasn't a hard game. i never said those guys aren't fine athletes. what i said is that soccer players are not the physical equals of gridiron players. the nature of the game is completely different there are many other factors at work. sorry. you lost mate. better luck next time

[upabittoolate]

let me help you because thinking isn't something you do very well. google "nfl combine". look at the reports over the last, let's say, 5yrs. then show me where any of the aforementioned footballers you cited can match up. that's a simple, quantifiable set of of measures. that's fair, balances & objective. i'm also going to win. your move

[upabittoolate]

between your self-professed air of entitlement or your self-assumed (but definitely not realized) sense of superiority, you still lose mate. an intellectual would engage some kind of data instead this anecdotal nonsense. i gave examples, i addressed both sides of the issue. all you've done is congratulate yourself for writing a complete sentence. that puts you on some esoteric "level"? you're a typical, youtube buffoon. i said good day sir

[upabittoolate]

again, you're sidestepping my point in order to access yours. i issued a challenge: let's measure it. who runs faster, who lifts more, who jumps the highest, who sustains more physical contact. for that matter, you brought up money; i said "whose league has more liquid value?". talent? that's a touch & go concept but okay. measure 'ability' in common terms. football players will still win. in the NFL, those TALENTS are measured before they get drafted. your move

[upabittoolate]

just bulk? how far, how fast & with how much acumen can you throw an oval shaped ball? how fast can you cover 40yds? how many 300lb men can you lift? how high can you jump? how many missile passes can you catch, protect then run for extra yards? riddle me that mate

[WKaliber1]

are we still talking about american football or rugby? american football is just rugby for pussies

[upabittoolate]

listen, i know you're a racist. i know that intellectual discourse isn't your strength. but please don't accuse me of something i didn't do. let's use another analogy. some might say that TKD, karate or kickboxing prepare a fighter to be more well rounded. BUT, no one alive wants to be on the receiving end of a right cross from mike tyson in '88; no one. not even professional boxers. that being said, a soccer player in gear could barely catch a tackle or tight end in a foot race let alone a HB

[metorphoric]

my Packers will be there next season though.

[metorphoric]

Steelers/Eagles in Super Bowl...

[biggerflexible]

I've been dreaming of a pit vs philly Superbowl since I was a kid. I dunno I see Eagles vs Ravens.

[DemonicGemini]

Pittsburgh sucks ass cheeks hilly will win first baseball now football next up 76ers

[axelfear]

Our mayor is REALLY young, so this was not surprising. Hopefully, our Steelers actually win. :D

-Axel, from PGH.

[TokyoNiGHTS1]

The Steelers have beat the Ravens twice this season even though his name featured "Ravens" in it. So, now if the Steelers lose there are going to be a lot of fans blaming him for jinxing the team.

[SmokinBabies]

im gonna change my name to shitty shitty fag fag shitty shitty fag fag how do ya do,how do ya do!

[HammandClov]

That's anybody's game there. Gonna be a slow, low-scoring game. Hell, even the Eagles Cardinals is tough to call.

[1988430]

first?

[Chari06]

Genious!

[katey1dog]

He's changing his name for a week for this game? Perhaps he's not that dumb.

[upabittoolate]

if he changed his name to chuck norris, he'd go down in history as the smartest man to ever live

[katey1dog]

Or the greatest pretender in human history.

[demitriakathrynjojo]

that is really stupid...

[Thinking4You]

RAWR

[YouJussGotCurbed]

wow