And the judges of today still keep the lifestyle alive..."pretended" holiness, businessmen that ran everything, confessing our sins...yup...sounds about right
@Xiaolian7 GO spread your propaganda elsewhere or kick it up a notch even so I can have a good laugh. Example: "The CCP has killed over 500 million people here and infected people with the black plague just because they don't like us. They rape women and force them to eat their own children." YOu know... the kind of stuff that gets to 1st wolders and makes them sick of the country. I don't want to defend the post Mao CCP but you can't really say you'd be better off without it.
I'd have liked to hear more about the relationship between the monks and the existing church. I'd have thought that the monks' capitalizing on religion would have put them at odds with the church. I'd also like to hear more about the relationsihp between the original generation of monks that became corrupt, and the cistercian monks that became corrupt later.
I am a Falun Gong practitioner. Falun Dafa is a cultivation system in the Buddha School based on the principles of the Universe: 真 Truthfulness 善 Compassion 忍 Forbearance.
Since 1999 it has been brutally persecuted by the CCP in China. People are being killed, tortured, put into concentration camps and have organs harvested from live people, simply because of their belief. More than 3400 Falun Gong practitioners have died at the hands of CCP in the past 12 years.
@Xiaolian7 Mate, you bring it on yourselves. It is a dictatorship, it can't be beaten by passive resistance UNLESS it cares about what people think of it.
Monasteries were the cornerstone of western civilization during the dark ages, they were the only hospitals and centers of higher learning in Europe, and provided an early form of social security for people when they provided alms to the poor.
A monk (from Greek: μοναχός, monachos, "single, solitary") is a person who practices religious asceticism, living either alone or with any number of monks, while always maintaining some degree of physical separation from those not sharing the same purpose. The concept is ancient and can be seen in many religions and in philosophy.
Although the term monachos (“monk”) is of Christian origin, in the English language it tends to be used analogously or loosely also for both male and female ascetics from other religious or philosophical backgrounds.
The term monk is generic and in some religious or philosophical traditions it therefore may be considered interchangeable with other terms such as ascetic. However, being generic, it is not interchangeable with terms that denote particular kinds of monks, such as cenobite, hermit, anchorite, hesychast, or solitary.
Its funny how people can actually believe in the christian plague. buy your way into an after life? Is there seriously any better way to scam people. The abraham religions bring disgrace to spirituality.
The Bible says thou shalt not murder. Murder and killing are different. In fact killing was and still is sometimes a necessary evil. I am not justifying what people did in the past and are still doing now, but killing in war is not murder. However there are different reasons one would start a war and many times from sin. PS God doesn't enjoy punishing the wicked, but wants them to turn from wickedness. Anyone can be forgiven, for any sin. You just have to ask. God bless.
Initially Christian Monastism was not corrupt. In fact, most early communities were not even as isolated as we like to think. These, At most, were retreat centers to escape ecclesiatical corruption. In Ireland & Scotland they were more like community centers; Many monastics were married & had children. Celibacy in those early days was a matter of personal choice not a requirement.
Monks almost invented FLYING, except some dumbass cardinal told the monk to stop it or he'd get killed. But we now know had he been allowed to add a tail to his flying machine, he'd have succeeded.
Imagine - we could have been flying in 1100 AD.
Oh, and King Henry VIII delayed the Industrial Revolution by tossing out the Cistercian monks. It could have started 250 years before it did.
Monks just live and skip all the bull crap that we get caught in. They are way ahead of us, and meditate to achieve higher states of awareness. they are essentially evolving faster than us. Notice, that humans did not evolve 'from' monkeys, but at one point in time, we were one, and split up into man and ape. They are our closest relative, as dog is man's best friend.
First, progressive evolution is bunk: evolution is random, not always moving towards some "higher state." Second, a monk is at least supposed to be celibate, which is to say, not having children. They have removed themselves from the gene pool, and thus from the evolutionary process. Evolution does not occur within an individual but within a population, and monks are a population that, in theory, does not breed.
I think I can understand things from Benedict's point of view. There have been times that I have desired to get away from society. It often seems that society gets so focused on consumerism that the urge to step away from it. I am disappointed though that they did not mention the Franciscans or Dominicans who took genuine vows of poverty.
I think I can understand things from Benedict's point of view. There have been times that I have desired to get away from society. It often seems that society gets so focused on consumerism that the urge to step away from it.
LOL regarding the conqueror putting up monasteries to cleanse his wrongdoings. Modern day version is like BIll Gates creating his foundation after years of brutal business tactics and monopolies. The origins of philanthropy by the cutthroat rich - very interesting!
I am EXTREMELY upset with how all the advertisements in all of this series is so poorly setup and ends up stopping the video and or resetting it completely. AND the ads pop up in the most inconvenient places. Fire the person responsible for the incompetency that IS your advertisement web programmer.
Y'know I'm all for having the ads just because I don't have an unlimited pocket to pay for all the things I wanna see and hear on the internet. I'm fine with cereal companies picking up the bill. What DOES get me REALLY UPSET is how many of these things can't seem to get the ads in there properly! The second ad comes on and I can't load the rest of the show every time! Happened on the last episode of this show too. Rampant on fancast and Hulu and such. How damn hard is it to make the ad work?
Hello all, great group here, sorry not at a local. Tis interesting about the sign language with ref to how peculiar the native american people's sign lang has been taken to be. Anyway thanks for some comments which so broaden the view.
You have to take these videos with a grain of salt, folks. In every one of these, Jones takes a mere few examples and applies them to the whole. A few bad examples doesn't ruin the rest.
So what did Henry VIII do with all the dosh he looted from the monks ? Here's a clue . -the second conquest of Ireland began towards the end of his reign 1550 and lasted until 1700 approx . In 1707 Scotland lost it's parliament (bribed out of existence due to the Darien fiasco and thereafter with Ireland and Scotland in tow and 'neutered' the almost 300 year long history of the British Empire could seriously get under way .
No looting of monasteries would have meant no British Empire ?
when everyone step back and looks at the fact, we will have a world of change.
As long as no one ever again use`s the same type of mind control these Conmen used. It not about leaders as much as it is about the people working together with out having those who want to pick and choose who get to be apart of the leaders/ people as a whole.
Mel Brooks stated in one of his film, It good to be king. I say Kings/ priest are the problem..
There was a lot of clobber from the wool trade too, and freight charges from shipping. And after the Dissolution the aristocrats took over from the Church as the main beneficiaries of taxing farmers.
The Irish and Scottish wars were costly for the English crown, and financing them was the main reason for Charles I's losing gamble against the Parliamentarians in the English Civil Wars.
That date 1550 was approx. Henry VIII actually began the 'destruction' of Ireland's most powerful family the Earls of Kildare (Fitzgeralds) who had traditionally supported the earlier Yorkist claimants to the English throne . The Tudors had the support of the the Ormonds (Butlers ) who were related to the Boleyns (Ann) and were enemies of the Fitzgeralds .
By 1547 Henry 's actual rule over Ireland had extended from the Pale to most of Leinster and into Munster .
Overall it's historically pretty accurate . However he omits to mention the monasteries as proto urban centres and their role as mendicants to the poor . They were in many respects the 'welfare state ' for the local people in time of need . As for the medieval Popes obsession with money ? I can think of a lot of modern day televangelists /born again nutters who recruit dupes on the basis of 'God wants you to be rich ' etc etc . Same old story -Gimme your money and you'll go to heaven ;)?
I like the security precaution of cutting everyone's meat to disallow them knives in the Pope's presence. Similar to the reasons Japanese food doesn't require cutlery.
It has stopped twice...,I had to hit 'refresh' which brought on the commerical again!
and it stopped again...played 18 of the 28 minues...I give up....Some flyes in the ointment here.
joraejean 2 days ago
And the judges of today still keep the lifestyle alive..."pretended" holiness, businessmen that ran everything, confessing our sins...yup...sounds about right
gladiator1010 1 month ago
@Xiaolian7 GO spread your propaganda elsewhere or kick it up a notch even so I can have a good laugh. Example: "The CCP has killed over 500 million people here and infected people with the black plague just because they don't like us. They rape women and force them to eat their own children." YOu know... the kind of stuff that gets to 1st wolders and makes them sick of the country. I don't want to defend the post Mao CCP but you can't really say you'd be better off without it.
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I'd have liked to hear more about the relationship between the monks and the existing church. I'd have thought that the monks' capitalizing on religion would have put them at odds with the church. I'd also like to hear more about the relationsihp between the original generation of monks that became corrupt, and the cistercian monks that became corrupt later.
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Xiaolian7 1 month ago
@Xiaolian7 Mate, you bring it on yourselves. It is a dictatorship, it can't be beaten by passive resistance UNLESS it cares about what people think of it.
You can't fight city hall.
uncletigger 1 month ago in playlist Season 1
Monasteries were the cornerstone of western civilization during the dark ages, they were the only hospitals and centers of higher learning in Europe, and provided an early form of social security for people when they provided alms to the poor.
Washu1973 2 months ago
An interesting episode. Learned a lot about the monasteries during the Middle Ages. Not something they teach Catholics today.
AlternityGM 2 months ago
the only sort of history worth knowing. rather than what king killed however many people for whatever political stupid reason.
maxgunn555 3 months ago 4
A monk (from Greek: μοναχός, monachos, "single, solitary") is a person who practices religious asceticism, living either alone or with any number of monks, while always maintaining some degree of physical separation from those not sharing the same purpose. The concept is ancient and can be seen in many religions and in philosophy.
SuperGreatSphinx 4 months ago
In the Greek language the term can apply to women; but in modern English it is in use only for men, while nun is used for female monastics.
SuperGreatSphinx 4 months ago
Although the term monachos (“monk”) is of Christian origin, in the English language it tends to be used analogously or loosely also for both male and female ascetics from other religious or philosophical backgrounds.
SuperGreatSphinx 4 months ago
The term monk is generic and in some religious or philosophical traditions it therefore may be considered interchangeable with other terms such as ascetic. However, being generic, it is not interchangeable with terms that denote particular kinds of monks, such as cenobite, hermit, anchorite, hesychast, or solitary.
SuperGreatSphinx 4 months ago
Its funny how people can actually believe in the christian plague. buy your way into an after life? Is there seriously any better way to scam people. The abraham religions bring disgrace to spirituality.
Samhainmisfit123 5 months ago
These ads are fucking bullshit. I can't even watch these. It just stops the vid and it won't load after that.
punchdrunkatheist 7 months ago 3
The Bible says thou shalt not murder. Murder and killing are different. In fact killing was and still is sometimes a necessary evil. I am not justifying what people did in the past and are still doing now, but killing in war is not murder. However there are different reasons one would start a war and many times from sin. PS God doesn't enjoy punishing the wicked, but wants them to turn from wickedness. Anyone can be forgiven, for any sin. You just have to ask. God bless.
Tehkumsah 8 months ago
Initially Christian Monastism was not corrupt. In fact, most early communities were not even as isolated as we like to think. These, At most, were retreat centers to escape ecclesiatical corruption. In Ireland & Scotland they were more like community centers; Many monastics were married & had children. Celibacy in those early days was a matter of personal choice not a requirement.
Forysan 9 months ago
Monks almost invented FLYING, except some dumbass cardinal told the monk to stop it or he'd get killed. But we now know had he been allowed to add a tail to his flying machine, he'd have succeeded.
Imagine - we could have been flying in 1100 AD.
Oh, and King Henry VIII delayed the Industrial Revolution by tossing out the Cistercian monks. It could have started 250 years before it did.
TalkinXbox 9 months ago
Monks just live and skip all the bull crap that we get caught in. They are way ahead of us, and meditate to achieve higher states of awareness. they are essentially evolving faster than us. Notice, that humans did not evolve 'from' monkeys, but at one point in time, we were one, and split up into man and ape. They are our closest relative, as dog is man's best friend.
LetMeBackInside 1 year ago
@LetMeBackInside
First, progressive evolution is bunk: evolution is random, not always moving towards some "higher state." Second, a monk is at least supposed to be celibate, which is to say, not having children. They have removed themselves from the gene pool, and thus from the evolutionary process. Evolution does not occur within an individual but within a population, and monks are a population that, in theory, does not breed.
Thank you, and have a nice day. :)
harlecerule 10 months ago
I think I can understand things from Benedict's point of view. There have been times that I have desired to get away from society. It often seems that society gets so focused on consumerism that the urge to step away from it. I am disappointed though that they did not mention the Franciscans or Dominicans who took genuine vows of poverty.
crazyviking24 1 year ago
I think I can understand things from Benedict's point of view. There have been times that I have desired to get away from society. It often seems that society gets so focused on consumerism that the urge to step away from it.
crazyviking24 1 year ago
LOL regarding the conqueror putting up monasteries to cleanse his wrongdoings. Modern day version is like BIll Gates creating his foundation after years of brutal business tactics and monopolies. The origins of philanthropy by the cutthroat rich - very interesting!
sferb 1 year ago
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Rule 1 - you do not talk about Monk Club
Rule 2 - you DO NOT TALK about monk club
Rule 3 - no shoes
But seriously, it's sick! All this over this preconception that hiring people to pray for you would save your soul when you die.
Sponsored by ... corporate co-opted ecological bullcrap.
UnanimousDelivers 1 year ago
yes actually, herring and fish is still the same. Myarter simply means, "killed" and woman mean "black" now.
xdeliriumgirlx 2 years ago
@xdeliriumgirlx Thank you. Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but I changed my account to tfavors28
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Jonathan6561 2 years ago
I am EXTREMELY upset with how all the advertisements in all of this series is so poorly setup and ends up stopping the video and or resetting it completely. AND the ads pop up in the most inconvenient places. Fire the person responsible for the incompetency that IS your advertisement web programmer.
StuPadazzo 2 years ago 59
Y'know I'm all for having the ads just because I don't have an unlimited pocket to pay for all the things I wanna see and hear on the internet. I'm fine with cereal companies picking up the bill. What DOES get me REALLY UPSET is how many of these things can't seem to get the ads in there properly! The second ad comes on and I can't load the rest of the show every time! Happened on the last episode of this show too. Rampant on fancast and Hulu and such. How damn hard is it to make the ad work?
windbeamproductions 2 years ago 13
The animation in this series ranks between Terry Gilliam's work and South Park.
njbrit007 2 years ago 2
Haha. Which one is the high end? lol. I'm not even sure. :)
Phantom1thrd 2 years ago
Hello all, great group here, sorry not at a local. Tis interesting about the sign language with ref to how peculiar the native american people's sign lang has been taken to be. Anyway thanks for some comments which so broaden the view.
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Individual245 2 years ago
You have to take these videos with a grain of salt, folks. In every one of these, Jones takes a mere few examples and applies them to the whole. A few bad examples doesn't ruin the rest.
Philly1330 2 years ago 3
Awesome beards on these Cistercian experts!
wormbaby79 2 years ago
So what did Henry VIII do with all the dosh he looted from the monks ? Here's a clue . -the second conquest of Ireland began towards the end of his reign 1550 and lasted until 1700 approx . In 1707 Scotland lost it's parliament (bribed out of existence due to the Darien fiasco and thereafter with Ireland and Scotland in tow and 'neutered' the almost 300 year long history of the British Empire could seriously get under way .
No looting of monasteries would have meant no British Empire ?
IrishDubliner99 2 years ago
Yeah your right..
when everyone step back and looks at the fact, we will have a world of change.
As long as no one ever again use`s the same type of mind control these Conmen used. It not about leaders as much as it is about the people working together with out having those who want to pick and choose who get to be apart of the leaders/ people as a whole.
Mel Brooks stated in one of his film, It good to be king. I say Kings/ priest are the problem..
balance in power is the answer
clnmyjts 2 years ago
There was a lot of clobber from the wool trade too, and freight charges from shipping. And after the Dissolution the aristocrats took over from the Church as the main beneficiaries of taxing farmers.
The Irish and Scottish wars were costly for the English crown, and financing them was the main reason for Charles I's losing gamble against the Parliamentarians in the English Civil Wars.
Volkmoidruk 2 years ago
Well said. Let's remember also that those wars were religious wars in a sense too.
I would say that Marx had it right when he stated it that the engine of history is class conflict over who controls the means of production.
Have a nice day.
Etatdesiege1979 2 years ago
henry VIII died in 1547 so the second conquest of Ireland began approximately 3 years after his death
cheGuevaraJones 2 years ago
That date 1550 was approx. Henry VIII actually began the 'destruction' of Ireland's most powerful family the Earls of Kildare (Fitzgeralds) who had traditionally supported the earlier Yorkist claimants to the English throne . The Tudors had the support of the the Ormonds (Butlers ) who were related to the Boleyns (Ann) and were enemies of the Fitzgeralds .
By 1547 Henry 's actual rule over Ireland had extended from the Pale to most of Leinster and into Munster .
IrishDubliner99 2 years ago
Overall it's historically pretty accurate . However he omits to mention the monasteries as proto urban centres and their role as mendicants to the poor . They were in many respects the 'welfare state ' for the local people in time of need . As for the medieval Popes obsession with money ? I can think of a lot of modern day televangelists /born again nutters who recruit dupes on the basis of 'God wants you to be rich ' etc etc . Same old story -Gimme your money and you'll go to heaven ;)?
IrishDubliner99 2 years ago 4
The indulgence business is indeed alive and kicking. Only differance is now you can do it over the phone!
wormbaby79 2 years ago 4
I like the security precaution of cutting everyone's meat to disallow them knives in the Pope's presence. Similar to the reasons Japanese food doesn't require cutlery.
briandoom 2 years ago 4
I'm not sure Terry Jones is the right person to examine St. Benedict's life.
It's a bit too snarky, and I say that as a Protestant.
taigakirdape 2 years ago
He snarks EVERYTHING, though. Watch the other shows in the series-- no one is spared.
Working from the evidence instead of the spin, a very human picture emerges. That's why I like him so much.
Brammimonde 2 years ago 53
That's part of the draw of this particular show (and why I love it).
featheredskyblue 2 years ago 4
what is snarky? I'm from the U.S.
ssalemi 2 years ago
Snarky is a term used in the US too, ssalemi. It means snide or sarcastic. (:
minivelma 2 years ago 4
not in my crowd. Thanks for the update!
ssalemi 2 years ago
snarky=kinda sarcastic in a mean way
remeclerk 2 years ago
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