California Cuts Health Care Services

[s2mikey]

So - People decide they dont want to pay for "boring" stuff liie health care and whatever, but these students very likely have iPods, great cell phone plans, and whatever else they want.  Its a focking bunch of BS. Go work for a living. Bunch of leeches....

[john123wayne]

why can't the people of california

understand the following:

if you quit paying for all the illegal immigrants benefits (incarceration, medical, emergency, food, welfare, education of their children, etc), there will be PLENTY OF MONEY for LEGAL citizens.

WHY is that so hard to understand? anyone?

i truly believe we have needy handicapped legal citizens benefits CUT while illegals benefits are still offered . serious replies only.

[jonasrichards]

I'll tell you what kind of community and society we want. We want a community where people are responsible for their own actions, where taxes are lower, and where personal choices can be made. Sure some of the health care budget was cut, but taxes weren't raised, these same people are probably so tax exempt that they actually never had to pay for health care, and now, they're finding out what the rest of us already know... life's tough.

[kidcapri009]

Im cool with asian illegals, they actually do something for the economy. Try finding a handicapped mexican illegal that smart.

[wyecee]

Do you only think Mexicans are dumb?

[hsuanstr]

@wyecee do I really need to answer that

[wyecee]

@hsuanstr That's up to you, but it seems now this new AZ immigration law going into effect in 2 days is like making them a target.

[MrHaplogroupj1]

Throw the no count bums from Texas out of Cali. Hunt em down and ship em out...parts is parts...lol

[armyofonerd]

It's time for some tough love, if you don't like having to pay for your insurance and working part time, then get a full time job like the rest of us. How nice it would be to sit back and stay at home while demand others pay for your bills. Can't pay for your electric bill, cable bill, gas bill or car payment, then demand someone else pay for it seems to be the norm here. If you can't afford everything associated with having a child, then don't have one - grow up and get a job!!

[f12key]

ho2cultra --> You are a complete moron.  Comparing racism to immigration. Geesh. Get a grip on reality bro!

[ho2cultcha]

comparing racism to immigration? wtf are you talking about dickhead?

[f12key]

Ho2cultcha --> I'm talking about you. You are a fucking retard. Your whole argument is based on racism. You are trying to use racism as a means to justify not having immigration laws. That's what I'm talking about. And I rather be a dickhead than a fucking pussy like you.

[ho2cultcha]

grow a brain f1key! then, we'll talk.

[f12key]

Sorry, already got one. It is a an American brain, unlike your marxist, leftist, socialist dysfunctional brain.

[ho2cultcha]

geez, i'm sorry.  maybe you can get a refund.

[Davesthe1]

I believe before you ever cut child care, They need to tax pot and/or online gaming. to meet that need.

[KesSharann]

@Waldo

A governments "job" is to care for and protect its citizens.

[Waldocounty]

In the salad days, when the coffers were full, short-sighted politicians caved in to every tin-cup-waving cause out there and created entitlements. Now the worm has turned. Government can't, nor ever was supposed to, take care of every special interest's cause. So suck it up.

You gotta wonder how this country managed without 50 zillion programs. Liberals will say the poor died, suffered, blah-blah. But we still managed. Liberals' record: we came, we spent, we failed, we're clueless.

[ho2cultcha]

government's entire purpose is the betterment of the lives of the inhabitants. why do you think it should only take care of you and yours? illegals are inhabitants too.

[sasukenoneko]

ever thought that they couldn't contribute because you keep them from being apart of this country so they cant pay taxes?

what the fuck did they do wrong? all our ancestors are immigrants, WHY THE FUCK WEREN'T THEY ILLEGAL? WHY COULD THEY JUST WALTS RIGHT IN AND PROVIDE A BETTER LIFE FOR THEIR FAMILY? HUH? oh thats right. thats what the country is based off of. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU RESTRICT A RACE FROM TRYING TO BE APART OF IT AND THEM CALLING THEM ILLEGALS BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT THEM HERE?

[nextdrink45]

You ARE a jackass!!!!! The people that migrated here that you speak of, did it BEFORE there were LAWS in place regarding migration!!!! Now that we are a civilized nation, LAWS NEED to be followed!!!!!!! It's not that we don't want them here, but if they are going to come, then come here LEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!

[jimmyjames133]

because we're white and we take what we want LOL

[BPAIZZY]

Your not even an American! Don't tell us what to do.

[4sureJT]

Deport all these crybaby Illegal Aliens- Get the hell out of this country Wetbacks.

[ViralVideoDude]

Hey tradernorton01,

It's a tragedy? Well it's a CATASTROPHE that you do not know your law. As stated under Federal Law, States CANNOT deny health services to undocumented immigrants. As Schwarzenegger stated, he cannot cut those services because he would be violating Federal law. So if you have beef with CA and go around to spread some ignorant garbage like that, PLEASE oh PLEASE learn your law before looking like a fool.

[nextdrink45]

"As Schwarzenegger stated, he cannot cut those services because he would be violating Federal law. "

Only when it is in a life threatening situation!!!! NOT when it comes to the cold, flu, or anything below a life threatening situation!!! YOU need to learn your law before looking like a fool!

This state spends over 13 BILLION on services for ILLEGAL ALIENS! Instead of taking away from U.S. CITIZENS, I say take away from the LAW BREAKERS first!!!!!!

[sasukenoneko]

What the fuck is wrong with you?!

if coming to america to try to get a better life is now law breaking, everyfucking person here is a law breaker because we all came from immigrants looking for the same thing. THEY DID NOTHING THAT BROKE A LAW . we are the assholes for preventing people from trying to get a better life, which was what this country was made for, and calling them law breakers.

[nextdrink45]

Hey MORON!!!! In case you live in a cave, there are LAWS in this country pertaining to migrating to this country that NEED to be followed!!!! Even Obama has said that!!! My mother migrated to this country the LEGAL way and became a U.S. citizen, so I have no mercy for those that break the law to be here!!!!!

Those here ILLEGALLY are criminals and tax-takers that should be CUT from the budget before any citizen or LEGAL immigrant!!!

Now piss off you prick!!!

[sasukenoneko]

its only illegal because you guys made it so.

theres nothing illegal about trying to come to america.

they arn't trying to take your taxes, you wont let them be apart of this country, how can they help if you wont let them.

[nextdrink45]

"its only illegal because you guys made it so." Yeah, so is murder, and robbery, and theft. In a civilized society, laws need to be followed!

"theres nothing illegal about trying to come to america" You're right. But working here illegally, and staying beyond a visa IS illegal.

"they arn't trying to take your taxes," But they take more from the system in social services than they pay in, so yeah, they ARE taking MY tax dollars!!!

Cont'd..........

[nextdrink45]

"you wont let them be apart of this country, how can they help if you wont let them. "

I'd be more than happy for them to become a part of this country. Just as long as they do it the LEGAL way, and become U.S. citizens!!! Then they can help me by paying into the tax system, just like me and every other American who pays taxes!!!

[sasukenoneko]

im sorry sir. but thats what you're not seeing, you guys ARN'T letting them come here legally. if you were, then this wouldn't even be a problem. they would pay their taxes and do their thing just like any other citizen, they wouldn't be an encumbrance. don't you see how all these problems you listed are because you guys refuse to let them come here legally?

[nextdrink45]

Hey dipstick.........in case you live in a cave somewhere, THOUSANDS of immigrants get legalized and become U.S. citizens on a yearly basis!!! So there is NOBODY who is not letting them come here legally. It is those people that I welcome with open arms, NOT the 1000's that come into and stay in this country ILLEGALLY!!!!! If ALL immigrants would just follow the laws of this country, THEN and only THEN would we NOT have these problems.

[BPAIZZY]

Its our country WE don't have to let them in AND they need to stay away!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blah blah blah, keep your naive thoughts to yourself, they are sickening.

[ho2cultcha]

you sound like a ten-year-old kid trying to keep her toys to herself.

[f12key]

ho2cultcha --> you must be a spokeman for La Raza or something!

[ho2cultcha]

nope. not even hispanic. you don't need to be of a certain group in order to be compassionate towards them.

[f12key]

I didn't say you were hispanic.... I said you must be a spokesman for La Raza.

[ho2cultcha]

they don't need to become us citizens in order to work or be here. there needs to be another amnesty or a new process which doesn't discriminate against poor people who come here to do physical labor.

[ho2cultcha]

your figures are totally wrong, if you even have any to back up your statements. there have been many unjust laws throughout history which have been broken and eventually changed. the immigration laws are going to be some of those too. accept it, or go someplace else.

[nextdrink45]

My figures are wrong even if I have any to back up my claim??? You are an idiot aren't you? Totally speaking on emotion instead of logic and facts....LOL!!

Here's something for ya, the Pew Research Center, Heritage Foundation, and the Associated Press all have polls out that say that over 70% of Americans WANT more raids, the fence finished, more border enforcement, and NO amnesty!!! So your claim that these laws are "unjust" and will be "changed" are WRONG!!!!!!! NEXT!!!!!!!!!! LOL!!!

[f12key]

sasukenoneko --> Yeah, we also made murder, drugs, crime, driving without a license illegal. In fact we have made a whole lot of shit illegal. What is your point you fucking moron? Making laws in your country is called SOVEREIGN RIGHTS.... every country pretty much has them...this is why the laws are different in each country...because they have the right to make their own laws!!! Man, you are fucking retarded, stay away from America please.

[Wildkkat1]

Illegal Aliens are cowards by abandoning thier country when they should ban together and fix it! Look at Iran, and other countries fighting a corrupt gov. they are fighting and dying trying to kill the evil Islamic idiots!

[ho2cultcha]

YOU are a coward, for heaping blame for your problems on the most downtrodden sector.

[Wildkkat1]

As a decorated Combat Veteran, I served proudly. Illegal Aliens abandon thier country when they should be trying to fix it. You can not run away from your country and expect someone else straighten it out! Lazy and dumb is the meaning of downtrodden, people make thier own problems!

[BPAIZZY]

Hooah!!

[Wildkkat1]

The only problem I have is with liberal gobs of spit like you that can't fix your own country, so you come here to leach off of the US tax-payers! Get it potros! The free ride is over! Hasta La Vista

[BPAIZZY]

Amen to that!

[ho2cultcha]

they did break the law - by coming into the country w/out permission. but many laws [including our immigration laws] are meant to be broken and changed because they are discriminatory. most people have an allegiance to their family before their country and the vast majority of illegal immigrants are here to improve the lives of their families who are otherwise, stuck in fatal poverty. anyone w/ any compassion for others would do the same thing.

[f12key]

nextdrink45 ---> You kick ass man!!!!  Love the comments!!!!

[nextdrink45]

Thanks bro........it's all about being educated on the topic. I have followed this topic for an awful long time. What is funny is when you bring just the facts to an argument, they can't win. The laws are in place and there is no fighting the laws and downright logic. But then they call you racist, and all kinds of other names, but I find it funny.

[f12key]

nextdrink45 --> I completly agree. They always resort to calling you a racist. I guess they can't win the debate on immigration so they have to pull out the race card. Which just makes them look stupid in the end. Especially since no one cares now about being called a racists anymore since that is a dead issue. But thanks for the great comments, really enjoy them.

[nazitroll09]

Kill all niggers, Jews And Pakis,, ,and Muslims

[snowfan]

can I add you to the list?

[sharinganclan213]

you are so right.

[jsmythib]

Funny story..true story...Ive been installing flooring for 20 years..Among several accounts I do work for one insurance company , repairing water damage floors..We get top dollar for the work..When I Do the same work directly for the customer..and I have to look at them and hand them a bill..Im forced to bill(value)..which is always lower..fine..My point is 3rd payer systems always cost more..there is less morality in it.

[djwaglmuffin]

here here

[CraftLulz]

its the illegals who are driving health care services to bankruptcy. They are showing up to ER claiming their common cold is an emergency, they are stealing people's medical identities, etc

[1pedrocomo]

Ya Ya Ya Your full of it. lol. Get over it. lol.

[ho2cultcha]

what bullshit! illegal immigrants are one of the hardest working groups of people in california. whether illegal or legal, they contribute lots of payroll taxes to those and other services, and often receive no benefits back for it. i'll bet you anything that as a group, they pay for themselves.

[f12key]

Ho2cultcha --> Where do you guys get this crap from. It has been shown time and time again that illegals cost the start far more than they contribute. Approximately $4 billion more in fact. Regardless, they are illegal, even if they contributing more, what the hell are they doing here? What part of ILLEGAL do you not understand?

[ho2cultcha]

same old story: the insecure and deranged members of a society in difficult times seek out a less powerful segment to heap all the blame for all their problems on. it's just too easy, you nitwits!

[f12key]

ho2culcha --> Same old story: The government doesn't enforce the laws in any times and it drains and puts pressure on resources. Those liberal nitwits!!!

[ho2cultcha]

what do you think of unjust laws in the past which were enforced sporadically, and eventually dumped altogether? like 'whites only' laws, or laws which ban a certain group of people from purchasing land?

[ho2cultcha]

all laws are not enforced w/ equal pressure at all times - that would be insane and impossible. at one time it was illegal for blacks and whites to marry, and for women to vote. it took people to struggle and break the laws before they were changed. whether you like it or not, these people are a part of our society - and always will be. is it fair for a sector of society to have very unequal rights?

[nextdrink45]

May I fill everyone in on something. This is the EXACT reason why in L.A. County alone, we have lost 12 trauma centers/hospitals in the last 10 years!!!!!!

Yeah.......THANKS ILLEGALS!!!!!

[Docthewrench]

I still dont get how he got elected a all left wing state with a right winger as Gov  I never got how that happened

[xBabyDragonx]

So does this mean that 99% of California citizens will be packing up to go to a state w/ benefits??? Who will be left there-- rich , single ppl ??? Hope they are self- sustaining in every sense,..lol This is sad, but this is going to happen to more states as budgets need to be met,...if it is even possible to balance a budget in this day and time. I don't believe our gov't expects the economy to recover, let alone help ppl get thru these bad times. Wake up people!!!!!!!!

[f12key]

There are no other states that had the level of benefits that California had. That is why California is in the crisis it is in. Fucking liberals and illegals sucked the state dry along with falling tax revenues due to the economic crisis. Just wait until the water crisis really hits hard as well. And next will be some disaster like a major quake in LA or SF.

[moviedude22]

He's terminating the state I used to luv. piece by piece.

[OnEye]

interesting that the only people effected are asian ?

they couldn't find a white poor white person in cali?

[elbombardi]

the doctor is asian too

[OnEye]

it wasn't meant to be a racist comment .. rather the opposite.

I just found it odd to have a segment totally represented by asians, where they were talking about california.

[1pedrocomo]

You should call yourself "OneEye" not "OnEye" Because the people you are looking at ARE Nort Americans, Just like YOU. If you want to talk about Real Americans then we will talk about Native Americans, not people like you, Blow ins. lol.

[OnEye]

again .. there was no comment made to them being immigrants .. just to the fact they they were all of asian decent.

perhaps that is the best representation for poor demographic in california .. as i'm not from states myself i really have no idea.

What caught my attention was the fact that all three examples of the 'downtrodden' were all asian.. something that struck me as slightly racist.

[f12key]

Most Americans are native american because they were born here. This native american bullshit holds no water.

[1pedrocomo]

I told you before "BlindEye" they were born in North America. So going by YOU in your last comment to me,they are Native Americans. Get Over It. I'm not going to tell you again. lol

[jimmyjames133]

why don't they cut off the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

[Docthewrench]

that they wont do just real americans

[sharinganclan213]

they dont cut health care from illegal immigrants because their kids are the ones that vote them in for office.

[1pedrocomo]

Then YOU would be sent back home. That would be a BIG loss. lol

[jimmyjames133]

one race made this place therefore i am home

no white people NO America then what for you

[1pedrocomo]

Aaaa sorry, your a Native NORT American then. Well Well a Red Skin, lol.

[jimmyjames133]

no an Original American, your clearly a brown skin

third worlder

[1pedrocomo]

Me thinks I hit a nerve. NO NO NO, I just love you. Try to get something right, well Iam getting a bit of tan at the moment. Did you go to school? You are in NORTH America. Original? what the fack is that. Your NOT a Native. Iam NOT going to tell you anymore, you will have to ask your Mother. Love Ya.

[jimmyjames133]

indians and dirty mexicans were not part of America when it was first created so how can they be native Americans native to the land is NOT native to the country

[1pedrocomo]

You have your head so far up your arse I can see the souls of your feet. Iam not going to respond to you again. It is like talking to a wall. Now Jim Jams be a good BOY and go back to school. Love Ya.

[jimmyjames133]

my feet are the other direction genius

[Dragolaa]

America (continent) wasn't created. The United States of America (country) were created.