Once Saved, Always Saved? Calvinism Refuted by Jesse Morrell

[boldforjesus]

Hebrews 10:26 - For if we sin willfully (as opposed to sins committed inconsiderately, and from ignorance or from weakness) after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins. ~ The phrase there no longer remains means that they did once have the sacrifice for sins. So this is about former Christians. 10:29 also proves it because it shows the person was sanctified by the blood of Jesus Christ. But it's a worse punishment b/c of falling back into sin.

[TheGreaterGood80]

Christian open air preachers are weak and pathetic. A good majority of them are recovering drug addicts and alcoholics who don't realize that the majority of people they preach do don't have the weak wills, insecurity and inability for self-discipline that they experience. They are a joke and are generally looking to provoke, antagonize and annoy people under the guise of "Christian love"

[ChristopherMillz]

"Once saved always saved" is a lazy man doctrine and is false. A person can be saved from their sins and then turn from God (Hebrews 6:4-6; Hebrews 10:26-29; 2 Peter 2:2-22).

[YesToYeshua]

JUDAS NEVER DID BELIEVE THAT JESUS WAS REALLY THE MESSIAH. That's why he went to hell. How can you lose a throne that you never had yet? Start getting people saved who aren't yet and leave the flock of Jesus alone. You are a Pharisee and a Wolf in sheep's clothing, nothing more. You are in the flesh by standing and preaching that mess you call preaching. LOL

[outofthebox7]

Please read the two articles on osas/calvinism herewww.ipertisalithias.gr/pag­e5.htmland pass it on. May God keep you in His truth.

[philnoll]

I want the truth in me. I want Jesus' blood all over my face. Do it, Lord. Cleanse me.

[philnoll]

Forget Calvinism. Christianity in general is refuted.

[disciplesofthecross]

Lots of guts, bad doctrine...

[disciplesofthecross]

"And I give unto them eternal life, and THEY SHALL NEVER PERISH, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." (John 10:28) Does God lie???

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Granted, if a person changes his mind (repents) toward certain sins in his life, he may become very sorrowful and may even stop those particular outward sins, but the sorrow and the ceasing from certain sins would be the RESULT of repenting, not repentance itself.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Yes. I know. God doesn't repent for you, but a man doesn't repent unless it's given to him by God. God grants repentance. See 2 Timothy 2:25. Also, in the Koine Greek, "repent" doesn't mean "turn from sin." Repent in the Koine Greek means "change your mind." And so, if someone tells you that you must turn from all your sins before you can be saved, they are telling you a lie. Obedience is the result of true repentance and not the means to gain salvation.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Dear sir, I hope you don't subscribe to Jesse Morrell's theology. Pelagianism is a damnable heresy. Salvation is by grace! No man can save himself. The scriptures are clear. I know it's hard for the flesh to accept, but salvation is by grace alone. It's of God. Man is totally depraved and lost in his trespasses and sins. The heart is wicked beyond belief. Who can know the depth of its wickedness? Flee from the wrath to come and run to Jesus.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Have you ever paid attention to the words in the song, "Amazing Grace?" Well, check out four of the lines that say so much. They make total sense once you understand the truth of grace:

T'was Grace that taught my heart to fear.

And Grace, my fears relieved.

How precious did that Grace appear

The hour I first believed.

The point is a man doesn't fear something he doesn't believe in. At first, you fear grace until you realize you believe. Those who truly believe are fully redeemed.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 It's true that the Gospel is an open invitation to all men. However, not all men will respond. Only those the Father has given to Jesus will come to Him that they might have life everlasting. Check it out: "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out" (John 6:37).

And so, as you can plainly see, the Father gives them to the Son, and they shall come to Him. Salvation is of the Lord. It's all only by grace.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Yes. I know Jesus came to seek and save them that are lost. He called sinners out of darkness into the marvelous light. It's a truth. Jesus came to save sinners (1 Timothy 1:15). However, not everyone shall believe, and not everyone shall come to Jesus. Not everyone is His sheep. See, if someone believes on Jesus, it's not by anything they did. It's only by grace. They were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 I never said Calvinism was the gospel. The Gospel is the Good News of Jesus Christ: his death, burial and resurrection. However, the doctrines of grace plainly and accurately define exactly what the New Testament is saying. Man is totally depraved without the "new birth." Salvation is by GRACE alone. True believers were chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world. Jesus laid down his life for His sheep. This means, those who will be lost are not His sheep.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 I am glad I am not an Arminian, so I guess we're even. :)

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Who does Jesus lay his life down for? Yep! You got it! His sheep and only His sheep. If someone believes and is born again, it surely isn't anything they did to attain it. Simply put, they have nothing to boast about either, because they were "chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world" (Ephesians 1:4).

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Listen to Jesus rather than Calvin. Okay. Let's take a moment to do that.

Jesus says: "I lay down my life for the sheep" (John 10:15).

Jesus divides the "sheep" from the "goats." (Matthew 25:31-40).

Jesus says "HIS" sheep hear his voice. (John 10:27)

He tells one dude, "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you" (John 10:26).

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 God hates the doctrines of grace when the Bible clearly teaches that we are ONLY saved by grace? Yeah, right. Where in the Bible does it say that a man's salvation depends on his own actions or decisions? Calvinists twist the scripture? Well, how many ways can you twist: "I lay down my life for the sheep!?" (John 10:15). Friend, Jesus didn't pay the penalty for the goats. He died for the sheep. Not everyone is a sheep, my friend. The elect have been fully redeemed.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 I'm not rejecting John Chapter 3. It's you who aren't reading the entire chapter. John 3:16 is only one line of a conversation Jesus has with Nicodemus. You can't read one verse and base your entire theology on it. Jesus says a man must be born again earlier in that conversation before John 3:16. And, how is a man born again? The Holy Spirit. God does the saving: all of it.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Calvinists aren't twisting the scriptures. Calvinists are just reading what the Bible says. And, I wouldn't even call them Calvinists. The doctrines of grace have been around since Augustine and more than a thousand years before Calvin ever lived. Even the Apostle Paul teaches "GRACE." God has chosen whom he wants. That's the reason most do not believe. Not everyone is God's elect.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 I'm not trying to make the Bible fit the doctrines of grace. The Bible plainly teaches the doctrines of grace. What do you call "chosen in Christ Jesus before the foundations of the world?" They were chosen, sanctified, justified and will be glorified. Read Ephesians 1:4: "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:"

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 God is not partial or a respecter of persons? Yeah, right. God chose Jacob over Esau. God chose Israel out of all the nations of the earth. God chose Abraham and no one else. God chose Isaac and no Ishmael. God can choose who he wants for his own will and purpose. God doesn't have to answer to anyone, because He is God and He is holy.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 That's what most Arminians always say. They say they're neither Arminian or Calvinist. It's hilarious. You need to look up Arminianism. You no doubt subscribe to what he taught. The Bible doesn't put salvation in the hands of men. It puts it squarely in the sovereign hands of God. God is Holy and sovereign. He has planned this before time began. His divine plan will unfold to His own glory.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 "Any" doesn't mean every single individual. God has even created the wicked for the day of wrath. "The LORD hath made all [things] for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." (Proverbs 16:4).

And so, you are mistaken. God has prepared some for wrath. They are "vessels of wrath fitted to destruction" (Romans 9:22).

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Actually, John 3:16 does not destroy Calvinism. You need to do some Googling and see why John 3:16 does not destroy the doctrines of grace. You are very mistaken. Also, if you're not a Calvinist, then you are obviously an Arminian. You're either one or the other. You either leave salvation up to God or you put it in the hands of men. Saying men are responsible for their salvation is ridiculous. We are saved by grace!

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Oh yes there is such a thing is "sovereign grace." Also, your use of John 3:16 is inaccurate. "The world" does not mean every single individual. There's a stipulation: they must believe. Not everyone believes. You need to study. "World" doesn't means every single individual whoever lived. Do you think a just God can punish sin twice? Well, if Christ Jesus paid the debt of every one of the lost, then how can they pay a second time? It makes no sense.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Excuse me!? The Apostle Paul is the one who teaches about salvation by grace alone. How many times does the Apostle Paul mention God's elect? They were chosen before the foundation of the world. As many who are appointed unto eternal life believe. Not everyone will come. I do know, because I've read what the Bible says. Do you think I want all this to be true? I've read the Bible concerning these very things, and the doctrines of grace are clearly evident.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 You must be Arminian. Are you Arminian? I can tell you one thing: Arminianism is heretical! If God didn't save some, there would be none in Heaven. God didn't leave salvation up to whoever would believe. God does all the saving. Do you think God sacrificed is Son Jesus on the cross only to give people the opportunity to be saved? No! He did not! He SAVED them on the cross and fully redeemed His elect! The Gospel is an open invitation, but only the elect will be drawn to Christ.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 And so, I suppose you believe Jonathan Edwards, C.H. Spurgeon and Arthur Pink to be heretical? What do you think men have been preaching for the past hundreds of years? The doctrines of grace is what they preach, because the Bible teaches the doctrines of grace. Do you deny God's grace concerning salvation? Do you deny that man is totally depraved without the "new birth?" Do you deny that God's elect is spoken of in the Bible? If you do, you're not reading your Bible correctly.

[blicksflicks]

@tgillspy1 Excuse me!? The doctrines of grace were brought over to the New World and are not heretical! The doctrines of grace are what the Bible teaches. Are you denying we're only saved by grace? Grace is unconditional election. Man can't earn his way to the Heaven. If election is true--chosen before the foundations of the world--then obviously total depravity, limited atonement, irresistible grace and perseverance of the saints is true! It's not heretical. It's what the Bible says!

[Krustbox]

LOL god loves every sinner in hell. oh boy. please read psalm 5:5. God HATES all those who work iniquity. Read provers 16:4. God has created ALL for himself, yes even the WICKED for the day of doom. Read romans 9. Jacob i loved, but esau i hated. God does NOT love everyone. Stop preaching lies.

[doctorh2005]

REFORMED RESPONSE TO [5:49]

Repentance and Faith in Christ ARE conditions of salvation, but the Bible makes it clear that Repentance and Faith CANNOT be manufactured by man's own decision/will. They are GIFTS that God gives only to His ELECT, the moment He applies the salvation that Christ wrought on the Cross of Calvary.

I repeat, they CANNOT BE MANUFACTURED BY MAN.

[blicksflicks]

@doctorh2005 You took the words right out of my mouth. Salvation is of the Lord. Repentance isn't something you can just tell someone to do if they aren't God's elect. The doctrines of grace are true. The Bible clearly says that salvation is by grace alone. God's elect will be saved no matter what man does. No everyone is God's elect. And so, you're right when you say repentance and faith aren't to be "manufactured" by man's decision/will. Yep. You're tell the truth, brother.

[jesusslave]

those who the Father gives Me, will not be lost! Once saved always saved. Yes, the people like the corinthians, who live in passions, should be examining themselves 2 cor 13:5....of course, because God saves, God justifies, God sanctifies, and if these things aren't happening in your life, then He has not saved you. But whoa to the man, who judges before the time.. whoa to the so called friends of job, to the ones maligning david, to those pharasees, who think they are righteous, but are not.

[jesusslave]

@jesusslave in other words.. if you believe what you said in this video.. you would have been right there with jobs friends telling him to repent. You would have been right there when david sinned, telling him that he is not saved.. and that he better repent before he died right there on the spot, or he would not go to heaven. So your salvation, davids, jobs, is contingent on your repentance? so if i am saved, for the moment, and i forget a sin in confession? oops, im going to hell.  wow.

[jesusslave]

@jesusslave i guess my question is... what exactly are you trusting God for? I mean, once He saves you, which I hope you believe that He saved you, and that it was not anything that you could have done yourself, but that it was His choice, His doing, His grace that saved you.... so now that you are saved, what is God doing for you?? Or has He just left you to fend for yourself, because He saved you now, now you have the power to live for Him, without Him?? Did He leave you??

[jesusslave]

wow.. you cannot keep your salvation... if this guy thinks he keeps himself saved, by obeying God and not sinning?? then you have now become the strength of your salvation. Hey, I get it, NO EASY BELIEVISM!! But you cannot go around telling people to work their way to heaven. this is very cultish! Either you save yourself, or God saves.. can't have it both ways. Romans 9..and judas?? He was never born again!!!!! and Peter? He was!! God will finish the good work Phil 1:6, not you!

[6996109]

this was an awesome video , he is speaking the truth, and trying to save the people out of the snare that they are always saved, thats a lie and contradicts scripture. praise god for people like this guy. ty

[enslaved2God]

"To an inheritance incorruptible [862 // aphthartos: imperishable] and undefiled [283 // amiantos: free from that by which the nature of a thing is deformed

and debased, or its force and vigour impaired] and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time." ~1 Pet. 1:4-5

[enslaved2God]

re: 1 Pet. 1:4-5

You disbelieve these tremendous and powerful promises.

Your inheritance is corruptible, defiled and fades away; your reservation is unkept because your faith is in yourself and your merits before God and not in He who who has the power to keep His people through faith, which is a gift (Rom. 12:3, Eph. 2:8, ) unto salvation.

Put your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and not in your own inability to keep yourself saved.

[droptozro]

No one's "keeping" themselves saved by their power, one's faith in Christ is what keeps them saved... you just mis-understand the long explanation Jesus was going through dealing with the Pharisees. Jesus also said one must endure to the end "to be saved"... so there's more than one "part" to your salvation given as a gift. Just because it says no man will pluck them out, doesn't mean you cannot turn back to sin or away from the faith--are you reading that into the Scripture? it's not there.

[enslaved2God]

If a born again Christian is in deliberate sin, they're under God's wrath?

"Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost [3838 // panteles: completely, perfectly, utterly] that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them." ~Heb. 7:25

You obviously don't believe this. Your Christ can't save His people completely, perfectly and utterly, and His intercession here must be insufficient. As well as His intercession for them in John 17:11.

[samuelventura]

Again and again. I am sick of finding these pseudo debates. Neither of them knows what he is defending or the other is defending. They just react to a sense of attack. No sense to jump from one topic to another. Better sit together and pray and then each of them make an statement of what they are for and against. They will surprise of the results.

[wuebbsco]

Jesse can you explain something to me?? You say we have free will and we dont have to sin. Why do I need Jesus, as long as I stop sinning for the rest of my life I dont need Jesus! There must be a bunch of perfect people walking around who dont need Jesus then. Which is completely un biblical. By the way, Romans 8 is telling us that we are eternally secure. Read 8:30 Those who are justified, are glorified. Not some, not most, ALL. Your god is really weak Jesse. Praying for you.

[bekstamonkey777]

I'm pleased the pre-Augustinian fathers were mentioned...through Augustine we see the first appearance of OSAS in Christian thought. None of the early fathers agreed with him on this point - and blasted the gnostics for this heretical teaching (as a number of others Augustine instituted which later became essential components of TULIP).

[NJR1210]

No. So if you sin, youre headed to hell, then you repent and youre back on your way to heaven and then you sin again and the Lord will send you to hell (if you die that moment). I don't believe this at all.

[Stand4HimAlone]

Amen Brother!!! :)  May Jesus bless you greatly! You and yours are in my prayers.

- Bekah

[williambb1234]

great preaching, Jesse. You drove every one of their arguments where they belong... into the dirt.

[truth1forall]

Jesse, at 7:47 you almost opened your Bible. Do you regularly have 4-5 people with their Bibles reasoning with you?

[applegeo]

You sound like a mormon. Are you a mormon?

[bibletheology]

A mormon? Of course not. I am a Bible beleiving Christian.

But the OSAS camp sounds like the old gnostic's who taught that our nature becomes so changed, we cannot fall away

[LUMEL]

The only salvation assurance the Bible offers is a present tense salvation assurance for the person who is presently following Jesus and trusting in Him for his own personal salvation (1 Jn. 5:11-13). In other words, the faith needed to enter Gods paradise kingdom is a trusting, submitting and enduring faith. To enter Gods kingdom, we must endure hardships and persecutions as we continue to live holy as Jesus disciples in this wicked and adulterous generation. Great post brother Jesse.

[Blazer7x70]

@LUMEL What about John6:37-40?

[Brucev7]

@Blazer7x70 Amen.

[InTheSpirit12]

Stop trusting in mans will and trust in Gods will. This is why you think you can loose your salvation.The good shepherd, who names and numbers his sheep, who saves the lost sheep and fends off the wolf looses NONE.

John 10:28

28 I GIVE them eternal life, and they will NEVER perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.

[Brucev7]

@InTheSpirit12 Amen. Jesus does not have to keep going back on the Cross. He is the last blood sacrifice, the sacrificial Lamb of God. Heb 7:27, 9:26, 10:12 He has sat down at the right hand of the Father.

Hebrews 10:1

[ One Sacrifice of Christ Is Sufficient ] For the Law, since it has only a shadow of the good things to come and not the very form of things, can never, by the same sacrifices which they offer continually year by year, make perfect those who draw near.

[dcoxkaty]

@InTheSpirit12 (EPH) 2:8 Jessy, this is a gift,not of works that means you cant say you have anything to do but place your trust in what Christ did for you. God will not take back a gift. There are plenty of verses on this. I understand that if there is no fruit then there is a problem.It is free...You are a little confused.

[secureinCHRIST]

I think those guys have better knowledge than the man who's "preaching".

What about Lot? Look at the life he lived, and yet in the New Testament he is called "righteous Lot".

If you think you can lose your salvation, aren't you putting your trust in your own performance rather than complete confidence in what Christ has done for us?

The Bible is clear that salvation is eternal.

[JustAboutMyFaith]

The wages of sin is death. And spiritual death alone. Because when Adam sinned, the Spirit of God left him. But he did not die physically. That's why the wages of sin is spiritual death, and not physical. Now eternal life is eternal. Or else it's only temporal. Salvation is becoming born again. If you think it is just getting your sins forgiven, followed by a lifetime of works, followed by repeatedly asking for forgiveness every time you sin, then do you also become born again over & over too ?

[AlexaSophie]

Repentance is granted to us. 2 Tim 2:25

[HeresyDetector]

Jesus said; "Every tree that was not planted by God will be uprooted and cast unto the fire"... I guess we plant ourselves by our "freewill".. LOL,, HILARIOUS!

I suggest NO ONE take ANY of what this guys says before studying it for yourself..

Jesus said concerning Judas; "Not one of them perished but the son of perdition, SO THAT THE SCRIPTURE WOULD BE FULFILLED".. Jn17:12

Jesus also said concerning Judas:

"For Jesus knew from the beginning who it was THAT WOULD BETRAY HIM" Jn6:64

[niklvswar]

Exodus 32:33 And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

Deuteronomy 9:14 Let me alone that I may destroy them, and blot out their name from under heaven;and I will make of thee a nation mightier and greater than they.

[niklvswar]

Deuteronomy 29:20

The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.

Psalm 69:28

Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

Psalm 109:13

Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

[niklvswar]

Revelation 3:5

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels

[MoralGovisHeresy]

Do you know what It means to overcome? Maybe you should go check out 1John5:4,5 before you quote scripture

[niklvswar]

Ok, well let's back up in Revelation 3 to verses 2 and 3.

Rev 3:2-3 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

If we were once saved always saved, why would He tell us we need to repent after being saved?

[Brucev7]

@niklvswar  There is the Curse and then there is a choice of sin.

[OpenAirOutreach14]

I read it. BTW both this fellow's preaching and calvinism are both repugnant to me. No wonder why anything spiritual repulses me!

[HeresyDetector]

"A Christian is someone who follows Jesus"!!!!

A Christian is someone who has been BORN BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

Jesse also implied that Saul went to hell.. If Jesse would spend more time studying and less time yelling, he would know that Samuel said, "therefore tomorrow you and your sons will be with me.".1Sam28:19... Samuel was referred in the passage as a; "divine being", in verse 13.. So you can see that Jesse really has no idea what he is talking about.! Ask Jesse if Samuel went to hell.