History 172 Zapatistas

[Jujinko]

Viva Marcos, YA BASTA !!!

[angelusluz4]

Borren ese video que no se como se hace, porfi gracias.(no tiene nada q ver)

[angelusluz4]

Porque no esta en español?

[korazon33]

Hola a todos!! Megustaria obtener mas informacion acerca del EZLN y contribuir en esta causa. Muchas gracias!...

[09walkalone]

Arriba chiapas

Por la libertad de los pueblos

Viva la anarquia

acafb

[1804198602827]

hey como se yama el tema de este video porfa para poder conseguir la musica porfa monica

[Monica24g]

Muchas disculpas por no haberte escrito antes, pero la cancion que use es América de los indios por Daniel Valdez.

[crazyweird05]

whats the name of the song playing on the background..

[spectralsettings]

I know, that song sounds pretty cool.

[Monica24g]

sorry for not replying sooner, but the song I used is America de los Indios by Daniel Valdez

[CommunismTheory]

Wow you can write a book off these comments! Incredible..

[smokeyoner]

GREAT VID

[smokanonymous]

They want Mexico to Establish the Nation Of Aztlan, and reform Mexico into a Communist Society which will benefit the people because of the outrageous population. Then they want to combat the capitalist enemy America. Destroy The American Dream and Claim Territory that was never historically relative to indigenous tribes of Mexico other than trade with the Native Americans. Its a farce and bullshit. The only way for Mexico to get any better is Revolt in Mexico.

[19tony04]

PART 1

Actually NO, we want to reclaim the land that the UNITED STATES (not America because everybody from Canada to Brazil are Americans)stole from pre existing NATURAL BORN CITIZENS of Mexican decent after the Mex-Am War.The Treaty of Guadalupe guaranteed it! The US said that the resident will keep their land and will not be harassed (they were robbed and executed)it also stated that they will be granted full citizenship (they were deported)). As for communism how in the world did you...

[smokanonymous]

Look I apologize about the racial comments. I was actually dared to write that shit and I am not pussy so I did that.

On the other hand I do not have a problem with mexicans at all. But I am telling you invading America is someone elses made up bullshit. Aztlan was a fucked up method to push people into immigration. I have seen the oldest maps of discovery and Mexico has the same borders as it did when settlers arrived. Between North American Central and South American tribes.

[19tony04]

PART 2

tie that up with Mexico? Mexico isn't even a communist country nor does it practices or condones it! Now let me inform you that there ARE historic indigenous tribes that have Mexican blood and reside in parts of US. I'm just going to mention two: The Apaches and The Yaqui's you can look up the rest. So all in all, the only farce and bullshit situation is your misinformed comment.

[smokanonymous]

Now what I do know is people are dying in Mexico from poverty because nothing is being done in Mexico? There are too many Rebel groups not on the same page, and money has become an easy way to be distracted. Why hasn't anybody done shit? Because America is the enemy now! Why isn't Spain a number 1 enemy they robbed Mexico blind WTF?

Now this shit were Mexicans are saying they are Native Americans that is bullshit.

Apaches are Apaches, Aztecs are Aztecs.

Its absolutely True Fact.

[19tony04]

3)understand your arguments, you claim "America" is the enemy when in fact US is what every immigrant considers the land of hope and opportunity, their enemies are globalization and neo-liberalism, big difference! Then you state why don't we blame Spain, well lets see we did, we went to war, and we kicked them out of Mexico, It was called the Mexican Revolution plus the COORPORATIONS (not the country), due to globalization, are from the US (not Spain) which exploit indigenous workers..

[19tony04]

2)if I dont make money we'll literally starve to DEATH so Im pursuing my happiness in the US for a better life for my family and me." If you seen the oldest maps of Mexico then you wouldnt make amiss and counterfactual remarks about the Mexican border line. In the early 1800's Mexico owned CO, NM, AZ, CA, NV, TX, UT, and WY (I may have missed a couple) then lost it to the US so you would have to be blind to claim the territorial boundaries are the same. I'm having a hard time trying to..

[19tony04]

4)Last point Ill make, your right Apaches are Apaches Aztecs are Aztecs and Yaquis are Yaquis what you arent considering is their territorial regions.Aztecs obviously remain mostly in Mexico but Apaches and Yaquis regional areas range in both sides of the border Northern Mexico and across to the US so there is concrete evidence that people residing in No. Mex (Sonora, Sinaloa,Yucatan ect) have Native blood.There are many more Native tribes that reside on both sides but like I said look it up!

[Aztlan1810]

mexicans are native to the Americas whether you like it or not

[smokanonymous]

Yeah Central America? I am a Native Fuckin American and My Tribe have passed on the tales of Territory. So dog me gringo. Take that land back from the theives in your parliment that will aid poverty for centuries.

[Nyclassic2006]

Mexicans are not Native Americans? I'll try to give an example in the simplest way. Here in New York Mexicans have been growing since the 1990's from a tiny unrecognizable group to the fastest growing group. People can look at someone nowadays (in NY) and say that is a Mexican and not confuse them with other Latinos such as Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Colombians etc. How and Why? their indigenous features remain very visible because they are Native American! Some DONT even speak spanish.

[MorganAnsons]

this was a fantastic video, fav'ed.

[IvanM923]

You did a Great Job

[chewbaccakiller]

you should take out that red star

EZLN is not for communist

[lacan75]

its also for cumunists...

[minutemenAREcowards]

no not for communism!!

[lacan75]

why not?

[minutemenAREcowards]

JUST INCASE U DIDN'T KNOW the person who made this vid used che as a sign of rebellion NOT communism! it wouldn't make sense for seconds later to say that they seek democracy! EZLN make statements 4 REAL democracy it even says in the vid!!! there's a vid that show subcomandante NOT wanting communism, WANTS A REAL DEMOCRACY not the violent impearalism that the government calls "democracy". just look at the vid from 2:15 and on!! che in this case, was used as a sign of rebellion, NOT communism!!!

[lacan75]

I don´t like the way real comunism worked. wouldn´t stand for estalin, or chausescu... what i say is that zapatismo its an moveent that doesn´t deny diversity...wich means that people that endoresest comunism are allowed to participate. Idon´t... but i agree with the idea formaly accepted by zapatistas that capitalism is the enemy... still comunism is not the only option..people that think that way are stilll included in zaptistas strugle

[minutemenAREcowards]

not bad your right!!! yeah I also agree with the idea of the zapatista's!!!! I don't like communism either, but I hate imperalism even more! AND ZAPATISTA'S including subcomandante marcos want REAL DEMOCRACY so communism in reality won't take over the EZLN purpose of thier movement!!!!!PEACE

[lacan75]

It will be each comunity decision how to organize themselvs... i think no comunity will choose to repeat any kind of dictatorship. and yep i am also anti-imperialism... wether from left or rigth.

salutes brther

[minutemenAREcowards]

PEACE

[19tony04]

"people that endoresest comunism are allowed to participate"

if you knew anything about the zapatistas you would know that everything they agree on is achieved through democracy, by indigenous people voting for what THEY want! Thats why they turned down the governments offer in 1994 and the fight continues! I really dont see how communism ties into all of this. Do you even know what communism is??

ps you spell it wrong along with "endoresest"

[lacan75]

cmunsm is a discourse wich have difeent meanings fr dese grops.sme oftem participate in he olitical effort with the zapatistas, aln with other kndof organizations...zapatism s incusive..nd has claimed t be in general: fro left and anti caitalsm... i may not be a communist (for many reasons) bu support the inclusive zaatist figth..not for vote..but fr recognition of diverse govemen forms..(autonomos upon them). dn´t care for rigth r wrong englih speeling..in fact i should be writting in spanish

[19tony04]

I would STILL like to know why you keep using the words communism and zapatistas in the same sentence, it's irrelevant. Now misspelling words is frowned upon because it doesn't show your superior intellect nor does it testify of your maturity, it doesn't make your post readable, and often leads to confusion. It makes your thoughts incoherent which make people miss what you're trying to get at. The comment you just wrote proves one of two things: you really are an incompetent speller or...

[smokanonymous]

Yeah I have a book that says that good point.

But do you not agree that the Mexican Gov't needs to be overthrown? So many funds locked up in the hands of tyrants. And if such any overthrow did ever occur how could Mexico remain an ally with Mexico afterwards?

I always thought it would be better if America had more things made in Mexico than in China. And the main course of problem is population. Mexico starves itself being overpopulated. What could be done to help all thos people?

[19tony04]

I didnt understand your "how could Mexico remain an ally with Mexico" comment but I do agree in overthrowing Mexico's corrupt government. Establishing true democracy would really help the people. As for the population being a problem this is more of a global issue the world is getting overpopulated not just Mex BUT this doesnt mean that certain countries should starve, after all US is the third most populous country in the word following China and India and not many of us are starving to death..

[19tony04]

2)...your sense of humor is very childish at best, thus making you a person with very primitive debating skills not worth my time, in other words your comment backfired on you and just makes YOU look like a joke.

[MorganAnsons]

the red star is not just for communism, it is for socialism as well, it is a symbol of the workers.

[Bl00dlines]

Viva Marcos!

[sergio23zero]

Great job on the video it almost seemed too short.