Resent declassified documents contradict the crafted history of Pious X11.
These documents reveal new information about Pius XII's actions regarding the Ustaše regime, the genocides in Poland, the finances of the wartime church, the deportation of the Roman Jews, and the postwar "ratlines" for Nazis and fascists fleeing Europe. According to Phayer, "the face of Pope Pius that we see in these documents is not the same face we see in the eleven volumes the Vatican published.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Ummm, Pius XII had nothing to do with the sex abuse scanal and I'd like to ask what evidence you have regarding the current Holy Father. Seeing as every piece of evidence points towards him being the greatest force against child abuse.
The sex abuse is not a new thing and has gone on for hundreds of years.
The papacy new about it and covered it up at every oppertunity.
Two Faced.
I know about the spin there has been a concerted effort by the Vatican and Jesuits to diminish the overwhelming evidence of racial hatred, inaction and evil by this Roman Pontiff, particularly to the Holy Inquisition undertaken during his reign against the Jews.
Pope Pius XII with the full knowledge and tacit support of Jesuit Superor-General Wlodimir Ledochowski did hand to the Hitler and Himmler a complete blueprint for the systematic elimination of key non-Catholic minorities across Europe as well as the establishment of death camps for their murder. Furthermore, the Pope did instruct that ethnic Jews and other heretics were not simply to be murdered,
but ritually sacrificed by being burnt alive, consistent with church law on the penalty of heresy. That this plan was to commence immediately and be overseen by the full Jesuit ordained priests of the SS. This plan was called the Final Solution.
How about 10's of thousands of abused children, that the have been raped.
It has been instatutionalised activity, it has been well known within the church and the cover ups, pay offs and movement of the Criminals has been done with not only knowledge of the highest office but at its direction. All under cover of Papal Secrecy.
@VideoAudioDisco09 I said evidence that the Pope covered it up. Go on, provide one piece of evidence, or risk looking like a tin hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
Hitlers Pope is a s guilty as the current Pope for indifference and continuing the cover up. 100's of years and well I did say 10's of thousands but during my review of information I see the projection makes it over 100 000 just from what has been uncovered so far.
These disgusting stains on human history shoud be exposed and prosecuted.
At least he suffered in the last years, some justice.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Still not forthcoming with the evidence are you? As for why you keep mentioning Pius XII is beyond me seeing as we're talking about Benedict XVI. And call him Hitler's Pope if you want but all the evidence that's been forthcoming over the last 10 - 20 years has shown Pius XII as an opponent of Nazism.
I did not think anyone would dare raise the RAT as not involved in the cover up of child rape. 25 years it was his specialty. Go read the evidence and get your head out of the sand. It is he that has been most exposed, to the point many human rights lawyers including QC's think a case could be made for crimes against humanity.
Real History Real Fact not propegander. It is no secret it is all available to you.
This Pope is undoubtedly one of the largest popes of the history which does not remove anything in Jean-Paul II, who is him also a very large Pope. For small reminder, here what says Gary Krupp* in connection with Pie XII :
.../... “Pie XII was the largest hero of the second world war… he saved more Jews than Roosevelt, Churchill and all those which are associated for them. It should not be a reason of litigation between the catholics and the Jews”.
And also information: Among the evidence that Gary Krupp could advance, figure a dated November 30, 1938 circular, signed of the Pacelli cardinal, addressed to nonciatures, to the apostolic delegations and 61 bishops.
This circular required “to find 200.000 visas to allow “catholic not-Aryan” (formula coded to designate the Jews…) to leave the territory of Reich”.
One can read the following precision there: “that lenon day before so that sanctuaries are placed at the disposal to safeguard their spiritual life and to protect their worship, their habits and their traditions religious”.
Little time after, in a letter gone back to January 1939, Pie XII confirmed the contents of her circular in these terms: “Do not only undertake to save the Jews but also the synagogues, the arts centres and all that belongs to their faith: rollers of the Torah, libraries, etc…” …. I do not invite that to help hitler!
* Gary Krupp is a Jew, 62 years old, with the retirement, after having been industrial manufacturing medical equipment. In 2003 it created a foundation Pave the way “Your way” having for goal Prepares “to fill the fractures of comprehension between the religions” But most important is that this foundation financed the investigations and surveys carried out about the relations between Germany main road-Socialist and Pie XII, at the end of which it could affirm in an unquestionable way :
.../... “Did you Know that the Pie XII pope had saved more than 860.000 Jews of the camps of death? I want to say that I did not know it before. That is a characterized assassination, a “shanda” (a dishonour in Yiddish), that as well Jews says as he was anti-semite”. He added, betraying all the pressure that he had had to undergo: “Believe me, when I was child, I did not dream whom I would defend one day a man that we believe a sympathizer Nazi”.
Resent declassified documents contradict the crafted history of Pious X11.
These documents reveal new information about Pius XII's actions regarding the Ustaše regime, the genocides in Poland, the finances of the wartime church, the deportation of the Roman Jews, and the postwar "ratlines" for Nazis and fascists fleeing Europe. According to Phayer, "the face of Pope Pius that we see in these documents is not the same face we see in the eleven volumes the Vatican published.
Not surprising.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 weeks ago
Musical polls show that Justin Beiber is the greatest musical artist in history, Mozart , Beethoven and Pink Floyd did not get into the top ten
The Vatican will become a joke if they make Pius XII a saint.
This 20th century egotistical masturbation is a symptom of todays celebrity culture.
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petarphyle 9 months ago
@petarphyle
The Vatican will become a joke if they make Pius XII a saint. TO LATE....!
He and the current pope should be facing trial fro crimes against humanity in the international court.
Enableing and trafficing in child rapists and depraved indiference causing death, just to start.
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09
If they exhume the cadaver of Pius XII then vactican waxwork modeler will have a lot to do.
The Doctor who embalmed Pius did a very bad job.
petarphyle 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Ummm, Pius XII had nothing to do with the sex abuse scanal and I'd like to ask what evidence you have regarding the current Holy Father. Seeing as every piece of evidence points towards him being the greatest force against child abuse.
Ohyewildthong 3 weeks ago
@Ohyewildthong
The sex abuse is not a new thing and has gone on for hundreds of years.
The papacy new about it and covered it up at every oppertunity.
Two Faced.
I know about the spin there has been a concerted effort by the Vatican and Jesuits to diminish the overwhelming evidence of racial hatred, inaction and evil by this Roman Pontiff, particularly to the Holy Inquisition undertaken during his reign against the Jews.
Perhaps real History not propegander mmm?
VideoAudioDisco09 2 weeks ago
@Ohyewildthong
Also known as Hitlers Pope.
Pope Pius XII with the full knowledge and tacit support of Jesuit Superor-General Wlodimir Ledochowski did hand to the Hitler and Himmler a complete blueprint for the systematic elimination of key non-Catholic minorities across Europe as well as the establishment of death camps for their murder. Furthermore, the Pope did instruct that ethnic Jews and other heretics were not simply to be murdered,
VideoAudioDisco09 2 weeks ago
@Ohyewildthong
but ritually sacrificed by being burnt alive, consistent with church law on the penalty of heresy. That this plan was to commence immediately and be overseen by the full Jesuit ordained priests of the SS. This plan was called the Final Solution.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 weeks ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 So not one shred of evidence then? Thought not.
Ohyewildthong 2 weeks ago
@Ohyewildthong
How about 10's of thousands of abused children, that the have been raped.
It has been instatutionalised activity, it has been well known within the church and the cover ups, pay offs and movement of the Criminals has been done with not only knowledge of the highest office but at its direction. All under cover of Papal Secrecy.
Lets test it in the ICC,
VideoAudioDisco09 2 weeks ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 I said evidence that the Pope covered it up. Go on, provide one piece of evidence, or risk looking like a tin hat wearing conspiracy theorist.
Ohyewildthong 2 weeks ago
@Ohyewildthong
Hitlers Pope is a s guilty as the current Pope for indifference and continuing the cover up. 100's of years and well I did say 10's of thousands but during my review of information I see the projection makes it over 100 000 just from what has been uncovered so far.
These disgusting stains on human history shoud be exposed and prosecuted.
At least he suffered in the last years, some justice.
Again...
Perhaps real History not propegander mmm?
VideoAudioDisco09 2 weeks ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Still not forthcoming with the evidence are you? As for why you keep mentioning Pius XII is beyond me seeing as we're talking about Benedict XVI. And call him Hitler's Pope if you want but all the evidence that's been forthcoming over the last 10 - 20 years has shown Pius XII as an opponent of Nazism.
Ohyewildthong 2 weeks ago
@Ohyewildthong
I did not think anyone would dare raise the RAT as not involved in the cover up of child rape. 25 years it was his specialty. Go read the evidence and get your head out of the sand. It is he that has been most exposed, to the point many human rights lawyers including QC's think a case could be made for crimes against humanity.
Real History Real Fact not propegander. It is no secret it is all available to you.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 weeks ago
Highly how Pie XII is béatifié!
This Pope is undoubtedly one of the largest popes of the history which does not remove anything in Jean-Paul II, who is him also a very large Pope. For small reminder, here what says Gary Krupp* in connection with Pie XII :
.../...
francineraymonde 10 months ago
.../... “Pie XII was the largest hero of the second world war… he saved more Jews than Roosevelt, Churchill and all those which are associated for them. It should not be a reason of litigation between the catholics and the Jews”.
And also information: Among the evidence that Gary Krupp could advance, figure a dated November 30, 1938 circular, signed of the Pacelli cardinal, addressed to nonciatures, to the apostolic delegations and 61 bishops.
.../...
francineraymonde 10 months ago
.../...
This circular required “to find 200.000 visas to allow “catholic not-Aryan” (formula coded to designate the Jews…) to leave the territory of Reich”.
One can read the following precision there: “that lenon day before so that sanctuaries are placed at the disposal to safeguard their spiritual life and to protect their worship, their habits and their traditions religious”.
.../...
francineraymonde 10 months ago
.../...
Little time after, in a letter gone back to January 1939, Pie XII confirmed the contents of her circular in these terms: “Do not only undertake to save the Jews but also the synagogues, the arts centres and all that belongs to their faith: rollers of the Torah, libraries, etc…” …. I do not invite that to help hitler!
.../...
francineraymonde 10 months ago
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* Gary Krupp is a Jew, 62 years old, with the retirement, after having been industrial manufacturing medical equipment. In 2003 it created a foundation Pave the way “Your way” having for goal Prepares “to fill the fractures of comprehension between the religions” But most important is that this foundation financed the investigations and surveys carried out about the relations between Germany main road-Socialist and Pie XII, at the end of which it could affirm in an unquestionable way :
...
francineraymonde 10 months ago
.../... “Did you Know that the Pie XII pope had saved more than 860.000 Jews of the camps of death? I want to say that I did not know it before. That is a characterized assassination, a “shanda” (a dishonour in Yiddish), that as well Jews says as he was anti-semite”. He added, betraying all the pressure that he had had to undergo: “Believe me, when I was child, I did not dream whom I would defend one day a man that we believe a sympathizer Nazi”.
francineraymonde 10 months ago
I'm surprised kiwiprotestant hasn't shown up to spread his heresy out here...
ChrisDaron 1 year ago
Please pray for John Paul II soul to be in eternal peace.
ktomasz999 2 years ago
'Pope St. Pius XII' I can almost see it right now! I cant wait to see the day he is canonized, as well as John Paul II
KnightOfGodsCourt 2 years ago 2
@KnightOfGodsCourt
If you mean fire it out of a cannon into a cess-pool where it belongs I agree.
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
hese already a saint =)
TampaJayTv 2 years ago 3
Will the anti-Pius XII bigots stand up please.
ndw444 2 years ago 6
Can't wait till he's made a saint.
SeptemberCatholic18 2 years ago 10
Very Interesting
ktomasz999 2 years ago 3