Michael Jackson's former nanny, Grace Rwaramba, speaks with Daphne Barak

[tinkerbellxx101]

why did michael fired her?

[Lady9191]

@tinkerbellxx101

It was not Michael! It was Paris!!!!

[michaelsmagic1]

Cant help wondering if they forced him to fire her and then changed phones so there wld be no trusteble witness

[mysunshine1988]

grace was like a mother for paris prince and blanket. michael trusted her...he gave her the most precioust he had..his kids. michael loved grace, and grace loved michael and the kids. where is the rest of the interview? its BS! grace never spoke bad about michael or his Kids. SHE PROTECT THEM, still today!

[omsedsrenwo]

is this a media jock from michael. and wtf do this blond women with her hair. blämbläm

[chuneeh08]

@Fancylady100 and it was surprisingly that he stayed for many years standing up..for some celebrities they gone within a year..of all the media trash and people's judgement thats hard and everyone expecting him to move like he was young always..no one wud understand everything but him...

[MissBoogie048]

That he compared himself to Elvis doesn't necessarily mean that he was addicted. He had to use drugs at times because of insomnia, lupus, burn.. SAometimes he was really depended on drugs, maybe addicted during 93 allegations. The only ones who have referred to an addiction are the ones who saw him rarely. And you can't be addicted to Propofol

[BillyBobKumar]

Is it just me, or is the interview one total airhead, concentrating more on playing with her hair than asking sensible questions.

[musicbabylove1]

what was the deal with this nanny and mj?

[zeromarcy]

@Fancylady100 I know u r right. But i think it's hateful that even grace went around talking about MJ Private life.

I'm really questioning if he EVER had people in who he could trust :(

[Dondi128]

@zeromarcy No, he never had people he could trust. Another reason he loved children, they never wanted anything from him.

[chuneeh08]

@zeromarcy his mother he cud trust and diana ross is next..

[sistersuetube]

did grace have autoimmune disease?

[msbreezy1011]

We don't know why she was terminated. There could be many reasons so stop believing tabloid junk!

[mjj69able]

the handlers are the ones who did the wrong..

[Thesupernova711]

@mjj69able

Hi this is lilyofthevalley7. I wanna invite you as a friend

on my MJ page. You are blocked ! my name is Thesupernova711's

I will leave a comment on this page.

love:)

[cleide97]

where's the rest of the interview?

[stridb]

@cleide97

I looked for it, but could not find it. If you can find it, tell me!

[cleide97]

@stridb definitely :)

[annahudson76]

graace here you go once again making up lies typical of you

[color015]

Ahmad Elatab interview, he say:

"He's sexual, he likes women. I've seen him flirt. Some of those women he says are his nannies, he's sleeping with. He's just hiding it from the public.

[lilyofthevalley7]

Mj secret woman! Your can hate if your want!

17 years w/ Mj fired 5 times rehired 5 times

she raised these kids from day one w/ MJ

Maybe Mj has hurt her too! We don't know!

But I believe he loved this woman deeply he would have wined

up w/ her if he wouldn't had died !

This woman is hurt by MJ death!

May God bless you Grace & keep you!

Still loving & missing you MJ:(

[mjj69able]

@lilyofthevalley7 and to think when she was growing up she loved Mj so much. her only wish was to get married to him! well she got pretty close didn t she?

[lilyofthevalley7]

@mjj69able

I would say real close. If she was to ever right a book!

Best seller:)

[mjj69able]

@lilyofthevalley7 the thing is MJ women are very loyal.. they never kiss and tell....good for them... we can only imagine wow! :)

[lilyofthevalley7]

@mjj69able

MJ was a gentle men B/C he never kiss & told either.

That's why people question his sexuality BUT I didn't !

I believe he loved woman! If they were loyal then MJ

was a good man as far as a man & woman relationship!

When a woman finds a good man in her life. You

can't help BUT stick by him.

much love:)

[Amore2010ad]

@lilyofthevalley7 Please, what do you call his tape recordings of his relationship with Madonna. that was pretty nasty.What about what he said about Lisa marie begging him to take her back, And what about what he said about Tatum o'niel coming onto him when they were young. Please, Mj was not a saint. He did many things wrong, and he lied too for PR purposes.

[lilyofthevalley7]

@Amore2010ad

Yes Mj had faults & he was not a saint ! None of us are in Gods sight.

I don't believe everything I read also. I 've been a fan of the J-5 &

MJ since 1967! I'm a fan BUT not a fanatic fan. I would never worship

any man Before GOD because that's a sin in itself! I still don't get

your point in telling me all this! I still miss him!

[Amore2010ad]

@lilyofthevalley7

I suppose I was just trying to show you that he did kiss and tell. What he said about Madonna was not nice, just because she is a celebrity doesn't mean she wouldn't be hurt. he was very explicit about her on his tape. eww. Also Mj's tract record with the women he was involved with was not good either.

[romimichaelj]

@Amore2010ad

what mj says about madonna on these tapes iss just that she wasn't nice bcuz she bashed him with the press....he didnt do anything wrong by saying that...actually u should blame it on her...he didnt go to ther press and said bad stuff about her as lisa and madonna did..what he did was pouring his heart out before his close freind ..just like everybody does

[lilyofthevalley7]

@Amore2010ad

what tape? I understand now what your saying.

love:)

[Amore2010ad]

@lilyofthevalley7

he did that tape with the Rabbi Schmuley, where he spoke about the women he loved. None of the wives he married were included in that, only Princess Diana and liz Taylor, but he talked about dating Madonna, said she was not his type, then went into detail about what she did when she was speaking to him on the phone and what finger she used. it wasn't nice hearing that on tape coming from any man/ Some things are private.

He talked about how he wanted 9 children from LisaM

[Amore2010ad]

@lilyofthevalley7

LisaMarie disappointed him cause she was not ready to have his babies so he left her. She begged him to take her back but he wouldn't, he never mentioned that he had affairs with her while he was married to Debbie. He never mentioned love in his convo while talking about her or Debbie, which led me to believe that he had used both women, he never loved them. Lisa would have given him Elvis babies, but Debbie was just a surrogate. That's not the way to treat any woman.

[nenabunena]

@Fancylady100 Not being a drug addict as many people are capable of does not make you a saint, just fyi. Perhaps you need to raise your standards in what makes a person a human, even a flawed human who isn't a saint before you side with the tabloids & damn MJ & all he suffered & fought for for 20 years..

[kittieflower]

Daphne Barak left a lot out of the interview. Grace tried to help Michael. She was with him for 17 years..so any realy MJ fan would know he would never had kept her around that long if he didn't want her to be. She was let go several times, for no reason, but he always called her back. She has her own company now and is grieving the loss of not only Michael, but the children she helped raise.

[nenabunena]

@kittieflower You don't know if she was let go, as you put if 'for no reason', she may have been let go for plenty of reasons, but you're not MJ nor are you an MJ insider now are you? MJ fans like to pretend to be an insider when all their access come from the net 7 published materials, not only is that foolhardy, it's very dangerous IMO. Bec you rely on ignorance in the facade of knowledge, substantiating claims, allegations or rumors to hurt others.

[nenabunena]

@Fancylady100 Hi autopsy states that he had no history of drug addiction, it would've left a mark on his organs & there was none. You forget MJ had Lupus & as such he had to take medications for them. Research on Lupus & the effects of medication, they explain MJ's behavior & appearance back in 2001. Wake up & don't be gullible into buying into the media lie that he was an addict!

[theas1989]

She was hurt,its not crim.

But let her be,she was seen with them after these.

But to these date,she has not been seen with them anymore.

So THe end!

[kittieflower]

@theas1989 She is on Facebook....and she has some great photo's there, if you care about her send her a message~~she needs love~~she sure gave a lot of love to the children.

[theas1989]

@kittieflower Can you send me a private msg,if she still has FB? (Youtube,I mean).

None realy knew she was at all.

All WE knew,she was A and still is importen person for Mjs children.

Come she was there for MJ and his children for a LONG time :D

[79555891]

That dark chocolate (95%cocoa) , MJ never wanted to prove ! They knew each other for many years, had between them a friendship, trust, sympathy, but nothing more.She was only the nanny of the children of MJ !

[sloppyjakekisses]

Apparently she was terminated because she was trying to be a part of the "intervention"... Regardless of what she is saying, the kids obviously loved her and they would want to be with her.

[inasexymood]

What is up with the disrespect towards Grace? I'm sure she cared about Michael and loved the kids. I love Michael dearly, but he clearly had a problem. Don't point your finger at Grace like it was 100% her fault. Who knows why she was dismissed. One of the many reasons could be that Michael didn't want anyone telling him to stop taking the drugs. So stop it.

[TheDalinkwent]

@inasexymood, Grace doesn't care about MJ or his kids, she only cares about RATINGS!!!, during MJ's first trial she had the man convicted already before a verdict was reached and hosted people who were discredited and even repeated many falsehoods that were known to be lies, even when MJ died she claimed MJ couldn't sing or dance and was in shambles, yet the movie "This is it" proved that crap wrong, she hasn't even set the record strait on MJ's skin condition.

[TheSupernova247]

@inasexymood Hi. She said some very derogatory things about him after he died and spoke to various tabloids/newspapers about his drug use, financial situation and hygiene. If she really loved him or his kids, she would not have done that. She did it after he died which appears as vindictive and opportunistic. She was just another person that sought to exploit him probably out of vengeance since she had been fired. If she really cared about him or his family, she wouldn't have done that.

[nenabunena]

@TheSupernova247 She never said that, a tabloid sensationalized & made it up, just fyi.

[TheSupernova247]

@nenabunena Hi. Thank you for letting me know. MJ had so many to betray him, but I had heard that she said some negative things about him recently and that she was fired from being their nanny again. I think I read she was having words with one of the children, but I don't know how true that is. You can't trust the media. Thanks again for the FYI. > :-)

[Amore2010ad]

@TheSupernova247

it is sad that she has done that and I was very cross with her at first for betraying MJ, but after the initial shock i came to my senses, and realised that the MJ I had created in my mind was not the REAL MJ. He was as flawed as any other man and should never have been worshipped as a god. that is dangerous cause it makes it difficult for that person to function as a normal person. MJ's fans were among the most dangerous for him and contributed towards his death .

[kittieflower]

@inasexymood Amen.

[ullukp]

lol all dis blonde interviewer cn think bout is her hair..wt a dummy

[word85208]

she doesnt have any respect anymore, hes dead.

[Bella760205]

Why did she get terminated? Obviously it had to be for a good reason.

[momofmaine]

this woman - grace - should SHUT UP. Have some respect for your former EMPLOYER

[nenabunena]

Wait, Grace has a disease? It sounded like Lupus?

[kittieflower]

@nenabunena Yes, she had Lupus. Google it.

[nenabunena]

@kittieflower You can't have had Lupus in the past but not in the present, it's a disease you have to contend w/ your entire life. By her are you referring to Rwamba? That was speculative as the tabloids didn't know that it was MJ who had Lupus, not Rwamba a few years back.

[kittieflower]

@nenabunena --they both had it. My daughter has it and is in remission. she's had it since 1991. The Plaquenil (Hydroxychloroquine) Grace is talking about is the same medication my daughter had to use and it has some horrible side effects.Michael's autopsy report (Google it) says he had it. ANA's (Antinuclear antibody) may go up and down and when they are down you are in remission. By the way, I'm a nurse at John's Hopkins.

[nenabunena]

@kittieflower I know MJ had it, but how do you know that Grace had it? I'd recommend you google MJ's autopsy report yourself if you like, I don't have to google it, I have the pdf thank you.

[zankhe43]

wow-in this snippet, she sounds like she was a real healthy influence on him and the kids-i'm kidding of course. what a soup of dysfunction all around from lisa to the end.

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

and he told chopra that he doesnt want to die like marlon brando but like elvis... again contradiction...

i'm not saying that he's perfect... or not human... dont put words into my mouth...

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

just cuz i dont take things at face value doesnt mean that i'm in denial or "would be an enabler"... i just question things that make either no sense or are controversial...

jumping into conclusions just like that is sth u should know better than doing being a Michael Jackson fan...

[Fancylady100]

@A11L9E Michaels actions speak better than words, you can analyze and analyze, but the main reason he is dead is because of enablers and him being in denial to get help. The people who lived with him and love him know very well that Michael was not always the "Great Michael we saw on TV" He was only human. His own bodyguards said last month that they witnessed interventions, where Michael denies there was a problem. Why did they think he had a problem back then? Caus ethere were many signs.

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

again and again words... i'm sorry but we are NOT gonna agree on this subject... so we better drop it...

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

just ppl's word... so far i havent seen any medical documents that can back up that theory... on the contrary...

and yes i've actually paid attention to what Michael has been saying... in the tapes he says that everyone else in his shoes would have ended up a dead druggie... his kids and his strength saved him from that...that was back in 99-00...then again in 2005 he tells J.J. this...

-cont-

[Fancylady100]

@A11L9E What you said that does not mean anything, Again like the the family and many others who warned the family ( such as lawyers, Nurses and friends)said..he was in denial. He asked alot of people to get him certain presciptions, again someone in denial is going to say anything. I

[Fancylady100]

@A11L9E  am not saying he was addicted to propofol(wich is possible) Again just because the autopsy report does not show something does not mean there is anything there, alot of times docters dont know and the cause of death is unknown. What i do know is it is not normal for someone to want propofol to sleep, it is very extreme and i will leave it at that.

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

with a on going criminal investigation and 2 autopsy reports-YES there are two- things that are NOT shown in an autopsy report are not there cuz they do not exist in that person's system... propofol is NOT addictive and it just knocks u off it doesnt work like any real sedative, relaxing u so that u can sleep... again u are just believing words instead of facts...

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

i'm not hating on anyone... i'm just being real... just cuz i dont suck up to the Jacksons doesnt mean that i hate them... their actions though most of the times just are 2 much to handle... i LOVE Michael(his kids too of course)... not the whole Jackson clan... i'm not being in any denial... i'm just looking at the facts as they are...the only thing we've got as proof that he was an addict/user over the past 10 years is -cont-

[A11L9E]

@A11L9E

*she's the closest

[Fancylady100]

@A11L9E She's been fired about 5 times in the past, that was a normal thing between Grace and Michael...no biggie, make ups and break ups. I mean there are plenty of highly skilled nany's in Hollywood.Why did Michael keep taking/rehiring her back if she was so bad??????Go figure.

[11nyanya]

omg

[musicbabylove1]

i am curious to know what the deal was between her and michael..i thought she was the secret gf but apparently shes not..they seemed closer than just nanny and boss.

[jaccoh5]

What illness does she have?

This is the first time I have heard her speak, she seems really nice.

[handbrakemaster]

@jaccoh5 what do you mean... illness?

[jaccoh5]

She talks at the beginning about being ill, then she got better.

[ranmae57]

gout

[jaccoh5]

@ranmae57

Thanks

[relyte]

when is this entire interview going to be released???

[word85208]

The host is a ditz

[MiamiPush2theLimit]

@A11L9E I've never heard her say that about Paris' bday, but if she did, I wouldn't be surprised because addicts like to live in secrecy and "outing" Michael at that time would've been best for him in the long run. He fired her because she knew too much and had the guts to stand up to him.

[A11L9E]

@Miami u do realize that his autopsy report said he was healthy right? addicts are not healthy...

as for her timing- some days after june 25th- do u actually think it was right...? last thing he needed was just another person talking bad about him..

[MiamiPush2theLimit]

@A11L9E I know all about the autopsy report. Michael was an addict. He went to rehab in 1993 and got help for his prescription medication addiction. Many people on meds for chronic pain become addicted and Michael is no different. Also, Grace wasn't "talking bad" about him. She was telling the truth as she saw it and it is my opinion that she has the right to do so. Secrets kill.

[A11L9E]

@miami

WAS very important word...was back after the 93 case...2009-1993= 16 years...

how do we know that he remained an addict...? that's right we don't...all we can do is speculate...but according to that autopsy which was made recently and not 16 years ago when he admitted being an addict...and acoording to that he was healthy...being an addict and having an autopsy report that says that u are healthy doesn't make sense...

[MiamiPush2theLimit]

@A11L9E an addict is always an addict. You cannot erase it or get over it. You are an addict and you go to treatment to learn to control your behaviors, but the addiction is still there. That's why it's a lifelong issue. Also, there are thousands of healthy, functioning addicts out there. doesn't mean they are any less of an addict. Please educate yourself on this issue.

[Fancylady100]

@A11L9E That does not proof he was not addicted, Autopsy reports dont show everything. By the way did you see that recent interview that Janet had with Oprah where she told Oprah he had a problem/addiction, they knew about it and staged several interventions but he was in denial. Come on now, I love Michael but If you need propofol to sleep , you have a problem. Period. Janet Amitted to Oprah he had an addiction, So did Grace and others, why would they lie? They are family.

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

propofol doesnt even act that way... it just knocks u off and when u wake up u dont even feel like u've slept... plus propofol isnt even addictive...

as for Janet yeah like whatever... do u actually realize that with her statements she may as well have given the free card to Murray?

and guess what else? nanny dearest is testifying in court on Murray's behalf...

by the looks of it they are doing everything in their power to help Murray's case...

[Fancylady100]

@A11L9E Grace just LOL on this one.Another made up lie, testifying on Murray's behalf over her dead body. Tohme Tohme and others fired her so they can have their way with Michael without Grace interferring , Grace had alot of power on Neverland so she had to go. They dont need the family to proof MJ was an addict. There is 2 much evidence against Murray, the way he administered it, him hiding bottles and alot more.

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

ok i didnt quite got that one... :/

she S actually testifying and with her LMP and DR are testifying too for Murray...

oh and let me give u a piece of info on Tohme... he's related to Jerm's wife i think he's her uncle... and Jerm was the one that introduced Tohme to Michael... so if they were actually looking for him they could find him cuz he's practically family... :)

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

so if u are gonna blame someone first blame Jerm and then Tohme even though i fail to see what wrong he did... yes he's shady but i havent heard about the police even considering of investigating him soooo as always things may not be as they seem...

as for Murray... yeah ok sure but this case has been screwed up since day one... the eye witness that saw Murray hide those bottles was recently fired by the Jacksons...

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

hmm why on earth would they do such a thing if his testimony would actually help them? makes no sense if u ask me...sure Murray is a moron but the Jacksons seem to do everything in their power to help his case instead of fighting it...

the only ones that are a bit more vocal about it are the 2 biggest attention seekers in the family... Joe and LIEtoya and followed by no.3 Jerm...

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

Who exactly is gonna take their word over Murray's? they've been caught lying in the past so they are not exactly credible... and hmm their behavior isnt exactly helping at all... Joe comes out of the courtroom looking and greeting the fans like he just won an oscar, Jerm goes all over the world cashing on his lil bro and LIEtoya isnt even present at Murray's hearing while accusing him of killing her brother... she's in malta promoting herself... *sigh*

[A11L9E]

@Fancylady100

while other members of the family are caling him a murderer... they are constantly contradicting themselves... why? go figure...

[A11L9E]

if michael fired her then he must've had his reason and i'm pretty sure they were good enough...

what i don't understand is why the fuck did they took her back after...

[A11L9E]

*take

[TheParisSkittles]

yeah ;/

but they took her back becuase the kids missed her

[crazee4you1]

@TheParisSkittles Don't think it was because of the kids. She even said he would send her away if she got too attached to them.

So I think it had anything to do with their relationship. I mean she stated that he made her promises if she would come back.

[dieelsners]

@A11L9E Quote from Deepak Chopra:

His children's nanny and surrogate mother, Grace Rwaramba , is like another daughter to me. I introduced her to Michael when she was eighteen, a beautiful, heartwarming girl from Rwanda who is now grown up. She kept an eye on him for me and would call me whenever he was down or running too close to the edge.

[charlieiscool1000]

is she crazy no wonder MJ fired her she dosent seem like a very nice person at all appeantly she was trying to sue him or get money off of him and i dont understand she didnt help him get off the drugs or maybe thats the reason y she was fired in the first place

[MiamiPush2theLimit]

@charlieiscool1000 Grace was fired because she was planning an intervention for Michael.

[aka4god]

@MiamiPush2theLimit That's what I heard too...that seems to make some sense

[aka4god]

@charlieiscool1000

Michael was surrounded by enablers, I hears that Grace was trying to help Michael, but every time she tried to help, he would shut her down, hence she was fired.

Also, Michael did the same with Janet when she tried to help....but was literally thrown out of the house by guards...

If she was such a bad person, then why did the kids and Michael's mother loved her so much???

[Fancylady100]

@charlieiscool1000 Grace never sued Michael. Dont talk about someone you do not know, she is still surrogate mother to these kids. Also Michael was the only one who could help himself. You can not help poeple who do not want help and are in denial. Its against the law to force someone into rehab. The person has to sign for it. Thats why people hold interventions, to convince someone to get help. But if they decline, there is nothing you can do but try again.

[Fancylady100]

@charlieiscool1000 Why do you think she got fired 5 times? Cause she called his family and was trying to help him. Michael did not like it for people to tell him what to do. Thats a No-No. But he kept re-hiring her, cause he knew she was good and cared, he kept making promises to her, If you fire and rehire someone 5 times she must not be that bad after all. Being fired was not the normal routine.

[Vanny2829]

hi i didn't understand this can u explain ?

XOXO Vanessa

[stridb]

What do you mean? You don't know English?

[Mrs9r10bull]

@stridb lol

[sfb001]

Thanks for posting but this portion fails to fill us in on what was wrong with her and where and who she was before she met MJ.