@dooovde Irish is not a dead language. Like most languages still in regular use (albeit not by very many people), it has new words added to it to reflect changing times. A truly dead language, e.g. Latin, never had new words added, which is what makes it dead. People stick with Irish because they're proud of their language and have every reason to be. Yes, it's difficult, unless you're a native speaker, but what's wrong with trying to maintain what the English tried so hard to abolish?
@RoisinMoriarty1968 First off thanks for taking the time to reply. I just feel it's a waste of time and effort to support what is essentially an inferior language. You can talk to me about the loss of culture and how the Irish are losing their heritage all you want. The fact remains English is a superior language...it's far simpler to learn...far easier to understand. Why not just accept this and move on. It's like having a Zune and an iPod...I think I'll stick with my iPod.
The one thing that I would love to see in Ireland is a love of both Irish and English. Whenever people talk about Irish, it has to be associated as a language against the rest. It is the real language of a group of people who work hard off the land and the sea in the west and north west of Ireland with pockets in the rest of the country. When we talk about the Gaelic Revival, we omit the importance of patriots like Douglas Hyde and William Neilson but not the gun-wielding nationalists.
I would recommend people to read Peig later in life. It is too much for young people who have no connections to the sea or the coast to understand the reality even in modern times.
I have seen an adapted dramatized version of "An tAdh" (Padraic O Conaire) recently from TG4, and I must say that the story is timeless. Read "Rotha Mor an tSaoil"by Mici MacGabhann about the Irish emigrants trials and tribulations in Scotland and America. Read Mairtin O Cadhain's "An Braon Broghach"-masterpiece
To all those students far and wide learning Irish, I wish you the very best of luck with your endeavours and that you will enjoy another view of the world.I believe that Irish will get through the tough times of globalization.
I understand the problems of Irish pupils back home: fear of the teacher, shame of getting it wrong, humiliation from the teacher, a history of hate towards the language, the pointless task...Irish is a connection to our past and gives great insight into humanity.
There is more Latin and Polish spoken in Ireland than there is Irish. Indeed, both President OBama and Queen Elizabeth, after a moment's reflection, speak more Gaelic than do the members of the Irish Higher Education Authority. The Pope speaks Gaelic with a Goose Step, like so many foregn enthusiasts.... but the Goose-Step Gaelic of the Christian Brothers is likely to prevail so long as the Pope remains the main holder of Irish Bonds...
tá mé ag foghlaim ár teanga dúchais anois agus is breá liom é, an teanga is fearr sa domhan i ndáirire (liomsa ar aon chaoi). Sea, teastaíonn muid an Béarla ach cén dochar a bheith abalta teanga éile a chaint? Teanga álainn. Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam. Agus sin é go díreach, níl go leor anam fós in Éireann na lathanta seó. Bígí ag foghlaim Gaeilge agus bígí bród!
I've been speaking irish all my life, and I'm just 13 yet, its great to be able to speak it because there isn't many in Ireland who can! its great craic! unfortunately I cant type irish right now because for some reason my computer wont (yes Ive tried many things) but if I could I would. :D
Everyone talks about this RACE problem and says that this RACE problem will be over when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries. Everyone says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to “assimilate,” that is, intermarry, with all those non-Whites. According to the UN, this is genocide. They claim they are anti-racist, but what they are is anti-White. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
Stephen you big anti-white so and so,we don`t want your cult`s white genocide agenda of mass immigration and "assimilation" forced on all the white countries.
And only white countries.Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.No to genocide!
Isn't it funny how the travel Industry pushes Ireland as a White European country. They do the same with ALL White European countries. Yet the governments INSIST on flooding ALL White countries with NON Whites. Its genocide through racial replacement. Wake up Whites.
Everyone is realizing anti-racism is a code word for anti-white
People say there is this RACE problem and this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries. They say the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. It’s really just the final solution to the white problem. It’s genocide. They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white
@apenguinnamedabraham ignorant cunt. Do you know how many people died for the language to be still spoken today? Do you know how many people were punished/killed for speaking irish? You're missing out, it's a beautiful language to have.
@apenguinnamedabraham I was the same along with most of my friends. Now we're older and we do really know how nice of a language it is, nice to have if your in a different country. I'm not gonna tell you how you do your schooling anyway. Shit system as it is
I think he's made the case for Irish so well. Of course you couldn't become a billionaire if you only spoke Irish, but it's still just THE best and most exquisite language in Europe and Mr Fry seems to acknowledge that totally (or at least our right to think that). That's my view as a Plastic Paddy extraordinaire who can say the Our Father and sing the National Anthem - but it's still my language! Oh yes and "agus anois an aimsir - ta se fluich"!
The only thing left in this country (or should I say western province of Europe) that is Irish is its language, economic sovereignty has been stripped from us a long time ago, soon all rule of this land, which thousands died for, fought for, will be handed over by our own government to those who rule Europe. So to anyone who can or cant speak Irish, ensure your children can as when everything else about us is gone in the name of economic progress we may still have a glimpse of who we once were
I have been learning Irish for 12 years and I'm shocking at it, yet i have been learning German for 4 years and I know more German! The way its taught its wrong. I love my country and the language but please teach it a new way!!
@0845349 All primary schools should be Irish speaking schools. I've been speaking Irish all my life thanks to my primary school. Secondary school Irish is shocking though, teachers haven't a fuckin' clue.
@Dimebag08RIP I agree but I feel it would be difficult for people who move over here and are in this school that speaks a language they havent a clue off. I hope to send my kids to a Gaelscoil. Secondary is shocking yes. Why am I learning about Poems and Prós when I will never ever use them again with the language! The exam should be like a French or German LC exam! Yup, they really don't!
@0845349 Agreed, it's a balls of a situation. I'd say you're like me in the fact you'd love to see like an Irish revival of some sort but it's highly unlikely. Either way it would be nice to see a change in the education system in general like as you said learning all these silly poems and stories that are of no benefit to us. I mean where the fuck in life is learning A Thig Ná Thit Orm going to be useful? haha
@Dimebag08RIP Yes I would love to but as you said it's very unlikely. They just need to change it. For example in my side of my year (big school, bands in 2) there is 1 higher level and 2 i think pass Irish classes and it's simply down to the fact of the system. I attend a good school but it's just an extremely difficult thing to grasp. Don't even talk to me about A Thig Ná Thit Orm or Oisín i dTír na nÓg etc :( haha
@0845349 Definitely the system has really tried to put the language into the ground. I'm in leaving cert at the moment and out of a year of 90 students there is 12 of us in the Higher level class, it's actually crazy. I hate those soo much, you'd swear Maidhc Ó Sé had this unbelievably exciting life haha
@0845349 As a teacher I agree with you, it is taught as if the pupils already have some command of it when English is (mainly) the language spoken at home. It should be taught in the same way we teach foreign languages but our hands are tied, the change has to come from above, possibly the NCCA and Dept of Education. For us teachers at the chalk face we are required to follow the curriculum guidelines. :(
@adabu1 I understand the teachers point of view of course.. Even today my Irish teacher gave us the last 10 mins to talk but on the rule it had to be as Gaeilge!He was on to us about how we have been learning it for so long and yet we still don't know the basics! I think the change as you said needs to come from the Dept of Education. Once the focus on the language itself instead of all these poems, prós etc which are pretty much useless to me in relation to my knowledge of Irish in the future.
@agora1955 Obviously every language has different dialects and I understand that. Just like as you said Germans have a problem with theirs and so do we in Ireland. It happens everywhere. I live in a town and about 40 mins away from my relations and their dialect is very different to mine. I struggle sometimes to understand them. German just comes to me alot easier than Irish and is taught alot better. I'm only learning it. Im not saying I am fluent or anything just better at it. :)
@agora1955 Not yet maybe a small trip during the summer. I'm hoping to do European Studies with German in college so that involves me moving there for half a year. I can't wait. Lets hope I get in first. Germany is meant to be fab like you said.
reminds me of that mock 30s British newsreel on Savage Nation that went something like "Paddy has 19 different words for rain but none for yes and no" XD
@squirell1952 I will respect your opinion because you cannot even spell and use all caps. well done sir. You're a dipshit. You are a lier and póg mo thóin means kiss my ass which is actually very mild so shut the fuck up please
STEPHEN ENGLISH IS ENGLISH. THE IRISH LINGO REVIVAL PEOPLE ARE ANGLOPHOBIC. THEY ARE ALSO ANTI PROTESTANT. STEPHEN INSULTS HIMSELF BY LEARNING ANY OF THIS LINGO. I SHOULD KNOW. I HAD IT WHACKED INTO ME AT SCHOOL BY THOSE BASTARDS.
You cant blame teachers for Irish not being popular. Its not naturally a part of most of the indigenous ethnic groups on our Island. The pretense that Irish is one of the defining elements of being from our island was a part of constructing a national identity so we could function as a nation state. But like all national identities its not intended to reflect our societies ethnic makeup as much as it to differentiate us from our nearest neighbours.
Read Tradition Modernity Identity by Diarmuid O'Giollan I didnt pull my point out of the air mate. Whats the confusion between book Irish and Irish dialects here? Are you concerned that social change is sidelining the language? Making it irrellivant? ALso respect your elders son lol
@ByrneMJames Not concerned at all. The success of gaelscoils and the nationalist community in N.Ireland means that the language is healthier than its been in avery long time.
I'm not sure that I buy into this popular view that lays the blame on teachers or the education system itself for the reason why Gaeilge isn't more widely spoken. It seems to me that its very 'scapegoaty'. I also spent 12 years learning Irish but the reason I'm not fluent is because there was no willingness to learn, probably because no kids or teenagers wants to be there and tbh the only way you're gonna be fluent at a language is if you want to learn it. 7yrs French - haven't got a word of it.
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I grew up speaking the language and to be honest I love it. I love the pride of being able to speak it but the subject and the way it is taught is dire and is in drastic need of reform before we lose one of Ireland's best treasures. Tír gan teanga, Tír gan anam!
@paddypride Useless language. They should make it optional. I had no interest in learning it but it was shoved down my throat all the same. My children won't be learning it, that's for certain! They'll be geting an actual "education".
@dannysquirrel The fact that you think you were robbed of an "actual education" has nothing to do with your failure to grasp a language. Did having to learn Irish really affect your education? I pity your children, having to grow up minus one of Irelands best treasures. Please don't take your bitterness out on them.
@paddypride You're an idiot! And don't you DARE try to advise me on how to raise MY children, whom,by the way, WILL be given the option to learn it based on their own individual interests! It won't just be BEATEN into them like it was me!
You know NOTHING about real culture! You're just a small minded "paddy". I may have been born and raised in Ireland, but unlike you I don't let it go to my head and refuse to be called a "paddy"! I'm human like the rest.
I really hate people like you you could at least make an effort. people fought and DIED to protect our language and it's Eejits like you who I personally think are ruining our heritage. if you don't want your kids to learn it fin by me but it means hundreds and thousands of people died in vain
@CanadaxIreland Those men died for a thing called FREEDOM and NOT for something as INSIGNIFICANT as a language. I give my children a thing called CHOICE! You don't give choice! You FORCE your beleifs on others and call them an "eijit" (Note the correct spelling for future reference) for not falling in line.
Shame on you for thinking those men died for something as PETTY and MUNDANE as a "school subject"! They died so we could be free! Not SLAVES to out dated tradition!
@dannysquirrel Beaten into you, ya lazy fuck, your the one who didnt learn it. Ifyou have any sense youll get your children to learn it.
"i may have been born in ireland" ungratefull scum you are ,says it all.If you had a billion euros i'd be the richer because i love my country and heritage you fool.
@MrFocaleile Nobody I know can speak it! You just called 75 percent of the country you "love" a "lazy fuck"! Very intelligent! Did you learn that word in Irish? What do you know about sense? Do you think hundreds and thousands of Irish men died so you could BULLY people into learning something they don't want or need?
Calm the fuck down and see it from somebody else's point of view! You can't expect EVERYONE to have the same opinion as you. See I can also use the word "fuck". Aren't I clever
@dannysquirrel Dare? You are the absolute idiot who is letting his own bad experience with education cloud his judgement! No subject is beaten in to children any more, it's 2012 like, hello?! With regard to the "paddy" comment, I suppose you're on about my username, did it ever occur to you that it is my actual name or a nick-name? Probably not, you're to busy trying to start a fight over the internet! I'm born and bred Irish, I live here, I speak the language and I'm proud!
@paddypride What do you mean "cloud his judgement"? My decision is based on wanting my children to live a prosperous and HAPPY life! Read this next line very carefully:
I do not intend to BAN my children from learning to speak ANY language. I'm giving them the OPTION. If they are INTERSTED in learning Irish, I will NOT stop them! I'm not going to let the fact that I'm Irish "cloud my judgement". Internet fight? Read back over the discusion, Paddy. I had an opinion. You went below the belt!
@dannysquirrel Well you should have made that more clear... I was not the first to go below the belt, you were the one getting angry. If you look back you'll see what I mean! Saying I have the 'Paddy' mentality and being the first to use the word 'Idiot'
@paddypride P.S. If I ws trying to promote the idea that we should all be speaking a language that most of us haven't used in a couple of hundred years, I'd steer clear of the phrase "It's 2012 like, hello?!"
@dannysquirrel I wouldn't. As I have stated in my first comment, It is time for reformation. 2012 should be the year we teach people like you to have a little pride in our country and stop your type from destroying the languages appeal.
@paddypride I accidentally stumbled upon this video and wrote you comment expressing my opinion. That's the wondrful thing about freedom of expresion.
If you want to promote the language, by all means, that's great but you have to be fair. You're not the only one I've had comments from here. Do you really want people who refer to me as "scum" because of my beleif on your side? Would those who died for our FREEDOM be happy to see that? I don't want to destroy the language, I just want choice.
@dannysquirrel I understand you wanting to express your opinion but saying it's a "useless" language is extremely offensive to those of us who have spent years studying it and who enjoy speaking it. As for the other comments, I have had no say in what other people write. I think we've resolved our differences now and we can leave it at that. Sin é (In Irish just to annoy you) :P I joke!
@paddypride are you from the gaeltacht then? I'm thinking of doing the test to get the scholar ship in my school to go there. got any tips to improve my Irish?
@CanadaxIreland I'm not actually from the Gaeltacht, just lucky to have been raised speaking Irish. As for tips I'm not sure, If you could find maybe a class or speak to some Irish speakers. Canada has a Gaeltacht doesn't it? Maybe even trying to find a video of somebody speaking Irish on here could help... sorry I couldn't be more of an assistance! Good Luck! :D
Doesn't matter if everyone was fluent, there's no where to use it really, Gaeltacht areas excluded. Not many pubs, restaurants, shops, etc. that use Irish as a functioning language. That's what needs to change. Otherwise it will remain a "secret" and maybe even some would say an "elitist" language.
Ma tá tú ag iarraidh an Ghaeilge a fhoghlaim, tosaigh! Ná bí ag rá nach bhfuil tú in ann, nó go bhfuil tú róshean. Bain úsáid as an nGaeilge ar an idirlín, mar shampla, nó déan cúrsa i nGleann Cholm Cille nó an Cheathrú Rua nó Inis Mór agus ar aghaidh leat!
its a regret of mine that i didnt focus more in irish class at school i would love to be able to speak it. although it is very off puttting when you are told to write about a poem or astory and dissect its themes and images in a language that i am struggiling to understand.they need to teach it as its most basic form grammar and such and get rid of all the literature or the language will be killed off completely.
I love the Irish they're the best to party with. There were some exchange students from Ireland at my college they were really fun people and every one of them had musical talent. Do all Irish people play instruments? XD
English is becoming the "universal" language, this is the reality, but it is really beautiful in its own right.
However, we must preserve our gaelic language at all costs, in my own humble opinion the fault lies with the teachers of the language themselves.
For instance, how did the Israelis all speak "Hebrew" when they came from all over the world & we are all the one people & could not manage a "cupla focal"??!! its insane!
@MrROTD I have actually, my friend once picked up a taxi fare in Dublin, he struck up a conversation & thought they were from Wexford, it turns out they were from Newfoundland in Canada, the Irish settled there & kept their own accent over the years.
@bheadh I think it's telling that the comments written in Irish are written in terrible Irish. Not just spelling, but very basic grammar errors.
[for example: in bheadh's comment "teanga" should be "dteanga", "foghlaim" should be "fhoghlaim", "ceachteanna" should be "gceachtanna", "Ni raibh siad" should be "Níl sé"(! an especially egregious and ironic error), "daoine" should be "duine", "as" before Gaeilge.]
@maroneill Like I said to the other person, Have you seen the rest of the entries? At least I'm trying. Maybe you should sign up to be a teacher? Do you also correct people on the gramatical errors and spelling in English? (which there are on about EVERY entry) You didn't offer to help, .(not that I care of course) ..and they wonder why people don't want to try learning Gaeilge. Like the above quote "is fearr Gaeilge briste na Bearla cliste." or..sorry about the missing "fadas".... Pog mo thoin.
@bheadh Jesus, calm down. I think it's quite clear that you do care. I did actually help: I corrected the errors. I don't think it's a good reflection on you that you would get angry at someone for expecting your Irish to make sense. It is very important.
@maroneill Gabh mo leithsceal. Go raibh maith agat...ach ba chuma liom agus is cuma liom. Maybe you should get off your "very important" teachers chair and back into your high chair. You knew what I was saying. It should have been obvious since you're a "pro"..that my Irish wasn't perfect..As any good teacher would, to have me realise my own mistakes...and figure them out myself. Instead, you pointed out to everyone just where and what they were. You know what to do with your "reflections" etc.
There should be no sentimentality attached to a language. A language is simply a tool to allow you to communicate with other human beings. Once that tool ceases to be useful, as has the Irish language, it should be thrown out and forgotten. The modern "Irish" that children are forced to learn in schools today has almost nothing in common with what was historically spoken in Ireland anyway.
@TheInformalstyle I think you miss a lot in the opinion you posted there. Language games form the rational mind, so the language used has a supreme importance on the way we look at/percieve and survive in the 'civilised' world as 'civilised' beings. The type of language, the ebb and flow of it, the way it frames the world/the attitudes of the society around us, is terribly significant. The idea of bining this language due to lack of use(basically economic and education factors)is just plain piss
Ta speis agam faoi Gaeilge ach I mo scoile ta an mhuinteoiri ufasach agus ni raibh me abalta dul go dti gheal teacht mar ta me boch. Is mian liom go raibh me ag rugadh san teaghlach gaeilge sin caint gaeilge Ach ta mi-adh orm
@goinghomesomeday1 I have an interest in Gaeilge but in my school the teachers are terrible and I'm not able to go to a Gaelteacht ( literally Iirsh house, means the area in which people speak Iirsh and enjoy irish culture ) because I am poor ( bocht* ) I wish that I was born in the Irish household that spoke Gaeilge, but I'm unlucky..... :) My irish isn't grammatically perfect but I can express myself well
@littleXjack - Hi - well I learned the Irish of Peig Sayers, which was many years ago. Sadly, the Irish language was "beaten" into us by what I can only describe as "thick, ignorant bastards". I had a major disadvantage in that I had a very bad stutter/stammer. In school of the 1950 the bastards used to beat us senseless with leather straps and with their fists. So, like many others I grew to viciously hate the Irish language. Then the government also changed the language to its modern version.
Obviously this fellow doesn't live through a nation wasting its money trying to keep a dying language buoyant, instead of letting it take its natural course, and die, especially through a difficult economy as Ireland, which was never very rich, and whose prosperity only lasted for so long. Irish is bound to die, trying to keep it alive and force it upon an unwilling mass is idiocy. If people want to learn Irish, out of misguided Anglophobia, they can well do so from their own incentives.
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Lots of comments on the Irish language. The spoken Irish language is just one of the Celtic languages which has become an historic language and of no real value in trading on world markets. How many international deals are done speaking Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Flemish or other Celtic language. How many international airports use Celtic languages in communicating with aircraft. Celtic languages should be preserved but not insisted on as an international communication standard.
@irishgodfatherchris The Celts originated in Switzerland and South Germany. To this day, in the villages north of Frankfurt, a lot of the local dialect is 1 to 1 with the Irish word. e.g. They call a pig a Muck. (Wiki Glauberg). The Irish, however, are in no way related to those Celts. The mitochondrial DNA shows the 'old' Irish came from the Basque country. I'm not trolling, just giving you researchable facts.
look at the dutch... they speak four languages and smoke pot...! (thanks eddie izzard for that comment, but it is true) all i mean is that it's a great way to keep your own language alive, by educating everyone in other languages too. wish I was quadrilingual!!
Caithfimid ar teanga fein a foghlaim. Caithfimid ar ceachteanna a dheanamh, ar ndoigh, chomh maith. Ni raibh siad deacair. Ba mhaith liom 1,000,000 daoine ag caint Gaeilge os ar gcomhair. Ar fud an domhain.
@fishredone Gabh mo leithsceal. Have a look at the rest of the comments here..... At least I'm trying. "You" (what, do you have a mouse in your pocket?) don't have to "listen" if you don't want to.
@Unisaur64 Ar fheahbhas! Keep trying to learn! No matter how many people try to shoot you down for gramatical errors and spelling mistakes. (they don't really want to help..they try to make themselves look better by trolling this page pointing out peoples mistakes) Beannacht De leat agus beannacht De le hanamacha na marbh. (God bless you and God bless the souls of the departed (dead)..)
"Adopted out phonetic alphabet"..? I lived in China for 3 years: only in a dozen or so of the major cities do people even know PinYin (phonetic Chinese) exists!
They haven't adopted our alphabet, they've just come to a compromise for the sake of doing business on the international markets. They're hardly going to give up on a 3,000 year old alphabet just to suit us are they?!?!
And almost a third of all living people are Chinese speakers! They already ARE a world language!
i new well people wud cooment as gaeilge
djCHUCKS7 3 days ago
hug tú!, Ba mhaith liom an fhuinneog!?
nang26 5 days ago
You need to have a stubborn demeanour to speak in Irish...says a lot about a person if they stick to a dead language...not a lot good.
dooovde 1 week ago
@dooovde Irish is not a dead language. Like most languages still in regular use (albeit not by very many people), it has new words added to it to reflect changing times. A truly dead language, e.g. Latin, never had new words added, which is what makes it dead. People stick with Irish because they're proud of their language and have every reason to be. Yes, it's difficult, unless you're a native speaker, but what's wrong with trying to maintain what the English tried so hard to abolish?
RoisinMoriarty1968 6 days ago
@RoisinMoriarty1968 First off thanks for taking the time to reply. I just feel it's a waste of time and effort to support what is essentially an inferior language. You can talk to me about the loss of culture and how the Irish are losing their heritage all you want. The fact remains English is a superior language...it's far simpler to learn...far easier to understand. Why not just accept this and move on. It's like having a Zune and an iPod...I think I'll stick with my iPod.
dooovde 6 days ago
The one thing that I would love to see in Ireland is a love of both Irish and English. Whenever people talk about Irish, it has to be associated as a language against the rest. It is the real language of a group of people who work hard off the land and the sea in the west and north west of Ireland with pockets in the rest of the country. When we talk about the Gaelic Revival, we omit the importance of patriots like Douglas Hyde and William Neilson but not the gun-wielding nationalists.
MartynDer 1 week ago
I would recommend people to read Peig later in life. It is too much for young people who have no connections to the sea or the coast to understand the reality even in modern times.
I have seen an adapted dramatized version of "An tAdh" (Padraic O Conaire) recently from TG4, and I must say that the story is timeless. Read "Rotha Mor an tSaoil"by Mici MacGabhann about the Irish emigrants trials and tribulations in Scotland and America. Read Mairtin O Cadhain's "An Braon Broghach"-masterpiece
MartynDer 1 week ago
To all those students far and wide learning Irish, I wish you the very best of luck with your endeavours and that you will enjoy another view of the world.I believe that Irish will get through the tough times of globalization.
I understand the problems of Irish pupils back home: fear of the teacher, shame of getting it wrong, humiliation from the teacher, a history of hate towards the language, the pointless task...Irish is a connection to our past and gives great insight into humanity.
MartynDer 1 week ago
Very well said Mr Fry...great video.cheers
kizward 2 weeks ago
There is more Latin and Polish spoken in Ireland than there is Irish. Indeed, both President OBama and Queen Elizabeth, after a moment's reflection, speak more Gaelic than do the members of the Irish Higher Education Authority. The Pope speaks Gaelic with a Goose Step, like so many foregn enthusiasts.... but the Goose-Step Gaelic of the Christian Brothers is likely to prevail so long as the Pope remains the main holder of Irish Bonds...
sbreathnach100 2 weeks ago
@sbreathnach100 Interesting opinion
johnmiskella 1 week ago
tá mé ag foghlaim ár teanga dúchais anois agus is breá liom é, an teanga is fearr sa domhan i ndáirire (liomsa ar aon chaoi). Sea, teastaíonn muid an Béarla ach cén dochar a bheith abalta teanga éile a chaint? Teanga álainn. Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam. Agus sin é go díreach, níl go leor anam fós in Éireann na lathanta seó. Bígí ag foghlaim Gaeilge agus bígí bród!
somhairlemac 2 weeks ago 3
@somhairlemac Maith thú lean ar aghaidh a chara
johnmiskella 1 week ago
@somhairlemac aontú i. Ní hé an fhadhb an teanga ach ar an modh a úsáidtear é a mhúineadh: (
whisky321 4 days ago
I've read Harry Potter in irish and english :D cool stuff.
orangina1998 3 weeks ago
I've been speaking irish all my life, and I'm just 13 yet, its great to be able to speak it because there isn't many in Ireland who can! its great craic! unfortunately I cant type irish right now because for some reason my computer wont (yes Ive tried many things) but if I could I would. :D
orangina1998 3 weeks ago
@orangina1998 If your computer is moderately newtry the 'altgr' key for síntí fada. Then the characters are all the same
johnmiskella 1 week ago
What an inane piece!
careerdetective 3 weeks ago
It would be a shame to lose the Irish language. Mr. Fry is right though , the world speaks English now.
clymore25 3 weeks ago
Everyone talks about this RACE problem and says that this RACE problem will be over when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries. Everyone says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to “assimilate,” that is, intermarry, with all those non-Whites. According to the UN, this is genocide. They claim they are anti-racist, but what they are is anti-White. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
wolfram54321 4 weeks ago
Stephen you big anti-white so and so,we don`t want your cult`s white genocide agenda of mass immigration and "assimilation" forced on all the white countries.
And only white countries.Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.No to genocide!
ThisIsAntiWhiteHell 4 weeks ago
@ThisIsAntiWhiteHell Fuck off
ojideagu 4 weeks ago
the problem with the Irish language is in school they teach the written version of Irish were as its easier to learn the spoken way
EIRE176 4 weeks ago
Isn't it funny how the travel Industry pushes Ireland as a White European country. They do the same with ALL White European countries. Yet the governments INSIST on flooding ALL White countries with NON Whites. Its genocide through racial replacement. Wake up Whites.
Everyone is realizing anti-racism is a code word for anti-white
mr1alphaalpha 4 weeks ago
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People say there is this RACE problem and this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries. They say the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. It’s really just the final solution to the white problem. It’s genocide. They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white. Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white
mr1alphaalpha 4 weeks ago
Ugh, I hate Irish. Never pay attention in class, it's not like I plan on using it later in life.
apenguinnamedabraham 1 month ago
@apenguinnamedabraham ignorant cunt. Do you know how many people died for the language to be still spoken today? Do you know how many people were punished/killed for speaking irish? You're missing out, it's a beautiful language to have.
conzor9898 1 month ago
@conzor9898 I know, but even if I do pay attention in class I'm not going to use it later in life and I'll still hate it just as much.
apenguinnamedabraham 1 month ago
@apenguinnamedabraham I was the same along with most of my friends. Now we're older and we do really know how nice of a language it is, nice to have if your in a different country. I'm not gonna tell you how you do your schooling anyway. Shit system as it is
conzor9898 1 month ago
The English politely apologise for "their" part in the demise of Irish but actually the rate of decline has probably INCREASED since 1920
barnbersonol 1 month ago 2
I think he's made the case for Irish so well. Of course you couldn't become a billionaire if you only spoke Irish, but it's still just THE best and most exquisite language in Europe and Mr Fry seems to acknowledge that totally (or at least our right to think that). That's my view as a Plastic Paddy extraordinaire who can say the Our Father and sing the National Anthem - but it's still my language! Oh yes and "agus anois an aimsir - ta se fluich"!
JohninRosc 1 month ago 2
ive been learnong irish for a few years and i understand it fully, depends where you learn it.
i live in galway, near the last true gaeltacht of connemara ;)
256971ajm 1 month ago
@256971ajm last true gaelteacht? ha thats not quite true
bigtflanagan 1 month ago
There's always some prick who never stops coughing even in the tcd lectures :/
splerppp 1 month ago
@splerppp he heard there was no one coughing, so he thought he would start
animalnt 1 month ago
Awesome, newfound respect for Fry, he knows so much about our language problem
PODledge92 1 month ago
This was Quite Interesting.
TheDaveLolz 1 month ago
I am Irish and lived here all my life we nearly all speak English
Irish sucks!
(not Ireland)
TheGamer19856 1 month ago
Dia dhiabh a chairde! Is mise úllín beag bídeach agus is maith liom na portáin glasa!
o_o
EPICGREMLIN554 1 month ago
An bhfuil tu gaelige agat?
IEatCows 1 month ago
The only thing left in this country (or should I say western province of Europe) that is Irish is its language, economic sovereignty has been stripped from us a long time ago, soon all rule of this land, which thousands died for, fought for, will be handed over by our own government to those who rule Europe. So to anyone who can or cant speak Irish, ensure your children can as when everything else about us is gone in the name of economic progress we may still have a glimpse of who we once were
petergrennan1 1 month ago
Dia duit..... Slan.
sugarrr96 1 month ago
I have been learning Irish for 12 years and I'm shocking at it, yet i have been learning German for 4 years and I know more German! The way its taught its wrong. I love my country and the language but please teach it a new way!!
0845349 1 month ago 78
@0845349 All primary schools should be Irish speaking schools. I've been speaking Irish all my life thanks to my primary school. Secondary school Irish is shocking though, teachers haven't a fuckin' clue.
Dimebag08RIP 1 month ago
@Dimebag08RIP I agree but I feel it would be difficult for people who move over here and are in this school that speaks a language they havent a clue off. I hope to send my kids to a Gaelscoil. Secondary is shocking yes. Why am I learning about Poems and Prós when I will never ever use them again with the language! The exam should be like a French or German LC exam! Yup, they really don't!
0845349 1 month ago
@0845349 Agreed, it's a balls of a situation. I'd say you're like me in the fact you'd love to see like an Irish revival of some sort but it's highly unlikely. Either way it would be nice to see a change in the education system in general like as you said learning all these silly poems and stories that are of no benefit to us. I mean where the fuck in life is learning A Thig Ná Thit Orm going to be useful? haha
Dimebag08RIP 1 month ago
@Dimebag08RIP Yes I would love to but as you said it's very unlikely. They just need to change it. For example in my side of my year (big school, bands in 2) there is 1 higher level and 2 i think pass Irish classes and it's simply down to the fact of the system. I attend a good school but it's just an extremely difficult thing to grasp. Don't even talk to me about A Thig Ná Thit Orm or Oisín i dTír na nÓg etc :( haha
0845349 1 month ago
@0845349 Definitely the system has really tried to put the language into the ground. I'm in leaving cert at the moment and out of a year of 90 students there is 12 of us in the Higher level class, it's actually crazy. I hate those soo much, you'd swear Maidhc Ó Sé had this unbelievably exciting life haha
Dimebag08RIP 1 month ago
@0845349 i completely agree
mentleboy07 1 month ago
@0845349 As a teacher I agree with you, it is taught as if the pupils already have some command of it when English is (mainly) the language spoken at home. It should be taught in the same way we teach foreign languages but our hands are tied, the change has to come from above, possibly the NCCA and Dept of Education. For us teachers at the chalk face we are required to follow the curriculum guidelines. :(
Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam.
adabu1 1 month ago
@adabu1 I understand the teachers point of view of course.. Even today my Irish teacher gave us the last 10 mins to talk but on the rule it had to be as Gaeilge!He was on to us about how we have been learning it for so long and yet we still don't know the basics! I think the change as you said needs to come from the Dept of Education. Once the focus on the language itself instead of all these poems, prós etc which are pretty much useless to me in relation to my knowledge of Irish in the future.
0845349 1 month ago
@0845349 The only way to learn a language is to go to the source.
I am Irish but living in Germany for over 30 years. And if you think you
can learn " German" then please let me tell you you will have to learn
the dialects, because a German from the North has problem with a southern
German. And each has their own traditions, and all are proud of them.
I live in Bavaria where dialect is ALONE a problem. It is all very complicated within
towns and villages, just the beginning!!
agora1955 1 week ago
@agora1955 Obviously every language has different dialects and I understand that. Just like as you said Germans have a problem with theirs and so do we in Ireland. It happens everywhere. I live in a town and about 40 mins away from my relations and their dialect is very different to mine. I struggle sometimes to understand them. German just comes to me alot easier than Irish and is taught alot better. I'm only learning it. Im not saying I am fluent or anything just better at it. :)
0845349 1 week ago
@0845349 I quite understand you. Have you spent some time in Germany ?
Not just for the language (s), but for the experience. Its a beautiful country.
agora1955 1 week ago
@agora1955 Not yet maybe a small trip during the summer. I'm hoping to do European Studies with German in college so that involves me moving there for half a year. I can't wait. Lets hope I get in first. Germany is meant to be fab like you said.
0845349 1 week ago
@0845349 It is a really great place to live. I hope your plans work out. Visit
Bavaria if you can. Munich is a fantastic city and the sightseeing is wonderful.
All the best to you. Ayna.
agora1955 1 week ago
stephen fry is a spastic hawk
TheNo1MovieMan 1 month ago
where did this take place??
MCshlthead 1 month ago
reminds me of that mock 30s British newsreel on Savage Nation that went something like "Paddy has 19 different words for rain but none for yes and no" XD
ivangrozny27 2 months ago
Whats the story with the monkey suits lads? Do you not have your own minds? ugh
Tombuchaill 2 months ago
Coughing man, leave the room.
MrRationalgaze 2 months ago
Why does it seem like he's being forced to give this speech at gunpoint? (The black thing on the left.)
diffnature 2 months ago 25
@diffnature haha its a mic, but it does look like a rifle.
jaymaccool 2 months ago
@diffnature hahahahaha
eminemforlifenoshit 4 weeks ago
Is bhrea liom Stiophan ó frí :)
wogseron 2 months ago
I use to be a Irish speaker, but then I took a arrow to the knee
drummboi21 2 months ago
it would be sad to see the irish languge die, but lets face it, its dying
KYLEKELLYKIDD 2 months ago
@KYLEKELLYKIDD I don't think it's sad.
dannysquirrel 1 month ago
nee higgim muchj gwaelgie anymore.
noora vee me egg dullar scull, do vee me okay lesh on tongashin.
ock, nowadays, neel aon interest oggom insan tongs morrov shin.
ON TWIGGIN SHIV? Tweegameed!!
squirell1952 2 months ago
Labhraíonn aon duine sé go leor anseo in Éirinn: (
BeckyBeccaful 2 months ago
@BeckyBeccaful Tá brón orm ach d'úsáid tusa Google Translate nuair a scríobh tú é sin...Ní Éireannach ceart thú....Sasanach thú....
littleharper18 2 months ago
Súil agam go mbeadh sé ag fuck suas.xD
BeckyBeccaful 2 months ago
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Fuck that dead language, it's a waste of time and only paddywhackers want to learn it.
No shock that world renowned lick arse Fry is bigging it up.
floppykid 2 months ago
It's a beautiful language, but unfortunately it's being taught worse in Ireland than Spanish is in the USA!
IncidentalChopstics 2 months ago
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Fry did a great job playing Oscar Wilde.
I can't think of anyone who'd have acted the part better.
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MrIrishBilly 2 months ago
Just learn another language and feel better about yourself while not speaking "the powerful language" :)
kermitek91 2 months ago
I wish Welsh was revived too.
soundslave 2 months ago
Could be an Irish ballerine.. There are millionares who cannot write
finehomemadewine 2 months ago
POGUE MO HONE IS VERY IGNORANT.
AT LEAST IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU TO FUCK OFF, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU STANE.
BUT NOT POGUE MO HONE.
THERE IS EVENA POSTCARD FOR SALE IN SOME SHOPS W ITH POGUE MO HONE PRINTED ON IT.
WHY DOES AN POST NOT REFUSE TO DISTRIBUTE IT? I MEAN, IF IT HAD "BOLLOX" OR FUCK ON PRINTED ON IT, THEY WOULD.
squirell1952 2 months ago
@squirell1952 *póg mo thoin.,..
vampiresvengance 2 months ago
@squirell1952 I will respect your opinion because you cannot even spell and use all caps. well done sir. You're a dipshit. You are a lier and póg mo thóin means kiss my ass which is actually very mild so shut the fuck up please
Conor1094 2 months ago
@squirell1952
Actually it's a joke not ignorant,a joke.Don't be such a asal poll!
BeckyBeccaful 2 months ago
STEPHEN ENGLISH IS ENGLISH. THE IRISH LINGO REVIVAL PEOPLE ARE ANGLOPHOBIC. THEY ARE ALSO ANTI PROTESTANT. STEPHEN INSULTS HIMSELF BY LEARNING ANY OF THIS LINGO. I SHOULD KNOW. I HAD IT WHACKED INTO ME AT SCHOOL BY THOSE BASTARDS.
squirell1952 2 months ago
@squirell1952 ummmm. right.
fuaim 2 months ago
@squirell1952 You are aware Fry actually has a Jewish background? What point are you trying to make there?
TheOtherDODsChannel 2 months ago
Sounds like gargling rat poison.
Corbolio 2 months ago
i hate the language
petaaaaa08 2 months ago
@petaaaaa08 Most Irish people would agree with you.
Foloman1 2 months ago
Fus Doh Rah!
acountddd 2 months ago
@acountddd im playing skyrim while i watch this lol
kachekieran 2 months ago
@acountddd haha
AgileDefender 2 months ago
Is maith liom caca milis.
PaulolHensiano 2 months ago 68
@PaulolHensiano - caca millish, as you will recall, is pronounced CAWKA MILLISH and means, of course, sweet cake. plural = cawkee millish.
now, there is the other, cocka millish and it means sweet crap.
This is w here the famous fodda comes in.
WHY DO NEWSPAPERS NOT USE THE FODDA?
squirell1952 2 months ago
@PaulolHensiano Is fear liom ispini
Peterkearney76 2 months ago
@PaulolHensiano I'd love some now
closelynibbledgrass 1 month ago
@PaulolHensiano I like sweet cake too.
blainyrules 1 month ago
You cant blame teachers for Irish not being popular. Its not naturally a part of most of the indigenous ethnic groups on our Island. The pretense that Irish is one of the defining elements of being from our island was a part of constructing a national identity so we could function as a nation state. But like all national identities its not intended to reflect our societies ethnic makeup as much as it to differentiate us from our nearest neighbours.
It isnt an issue with the curriculum.
ByrneMJames 2 months ago
@ByrneMJames Dont confuse book Irish with what is spoken in everyday life. Also brush up on your history son.
scientific1982 2 months ago
@scientific1982
Read Tradition Modernity Identity by Diarmuid O'Giollan I didnt pull my point out of the air mate. Whats the confusion between book Irish and Irish dialects here? Are you concerned that social change is sidelining the language? Making it irrellivant? ALso respect your elders son lol
ByrneMJames 2 months ago
@ByrneMJames Not concerned at all. The success of gaelscoils and the nationalist community in N.Ireland means that the language is healthier than its been in avery long time.
scientific1982 2 months ago
@scientific1982
Ah you were wavin the Nordie flag. Fair enough. Id prefer the language be taught the same way here as it is there tbh so I wont argue with you.
ByrneMJames 2 months ago
I'm not sure that I buy into this popular view that lays the blame on teachers or the education system itself for the reason why Gaeilge isn't more widely spoken. It seems to me that its very 'scapegoaty'. I also spent 12 years learning Irish but the reason I'm not fluent is because there was no willingness to learn, probably because no kids or teenagers wants to be there and tbh the only way you're gonna be fluent at a language is if you want to learn it. 7yrs French - haven't got a word of it.
boru1982 3 months ago
fair balls to him, tells it like it is. tho i think Irish should be spoken by every1 on this great island of ours
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CDOGandMshizzle 3 months ago
I grew up speaking the language and to be honest I love it. I love the pride of being able to speak it but the subject and the way it is taught is dire and is in drastic need of reform before we lose one of Ireland's best treasures. Tír gan teanga, Tír gan anam!
paddypride 3 months ago 57
@paddypride
Lovely saying, paddypride. Chan eil Gaeilge agam ach tha mi ga tuigsinn. I speak the other kind of Gaelic, but I can understand a wee bit of yours.
ShadowinaCave 2 months ago
@paddypride Useless language. They should make it optional. I had no interest in learning it but it was shoved down my throat all the same. My children won't be learning it, that's for certain! They'll be geting an actual "education".
dannysquirrel 1 month ago
@dannysquirrel The fact that you think you were robbed of an "actual education" has nothing to do with your failure to grasp a language. Did having to learn Irish really affect your education? I pity your children, having to grow up minus one of Irelands best treasures. Please don't take your bitterness out on them.
paddypride 1 month ago
@paddypride You're an idiot! And don't you DARE try to advise me on how to raise MY children, whom,by the way, WILL be given the option to learn it based on their own individual interests! It won't just be BEATEN into them like it was me!
You know NOTHING about real culture! You're just a small minded "paddy". I may have been born and raised in Ireland, but unlike you I don't let it go to my head and refuse to be called a "paddy"! I'm human like the rest.
dannysquirrel 1 month ago
@dannysquirrel
I really hate people like you you could at least make an effort. people fought and DIED to protect our language and it's Eejits like you who I personally think are ruining our heritage. if you don't want your kids to learn it fin by me but it means hundreds and thousands of people died in vain
CanadaxIreland 1 month ago
@CanadaxIreland Those men died for a thing called FREEDOM and NOT for something as INSIGNIFICANT as a language. I give my children a thing called CHOICE! You don't give choice! You FORCE your beleifs on others and call them an "eijit" (Note the correct spelling for future reference) for not falling in line.
Shame on you for thinking those men died for something as PETTY and MUNDANE as a "school subject"! They died so we could be free! Not SLAVES to out dated tradition!
dannysquirrel 1 month ago
@dannysquirrel Beaten into you, ya lazy fuck, your the one who didnt learn it. Ifyou have any sense youll get your children to learn it.
"i may have been born in ireland" ungratefull scum you are ,says it all.If you had a billion euros i'd be the richer because i love my country and heritage you fool.
MrFocaleile 1 month ago
@MrFocaleile Nobody I know can speak it! You just called 75 percent of the country you "love" a "lazy fuck"! Very intelligent! Did you learn that word in Irish? What do you know about sense? Do you think hundreds and thousands of Irish men died so you could BULLY people into learning something they don't want or need?
Calm the fuck down and see it from somebody else's point of view! You can't expect EVERYONE to have the same opinion as you. See I can also use the word "fuck". Aren't I clever
dannysquirrel 1 month ago
@dannysquirrel Dare? You are the absolute idiot who is letting his own bad experience with education cloud his judgement! No subject is beaten in to children any more, it's 2012 like, hello?! With regard to the "paddy" comment, I suppose you're on about my username, did it ever occur to you that it is my actual name or a nick-name? Probably not, you're to busy trying to start a fight over the internet! I'm born and bred Irish, I live here, I speak the language and I'm proud!
paddypride 1 month ago
@paddypride What do you mean "cloud his judgement"? My decision is based on wanting my children to live a prosperous and HAPPY life! Read this next line very carefully:
I do not intend to BAN my children from learning to speak ANY language. I'm giving them the OPTION. If they are INTERSTED in learning Irish, I will NOT stop them! I'm not going to let the fact that I'm Irish "cloud my judgement". Internet fight? Read back over the discusion, Paddy. I had an opinion. You went below the belt!
dannysquirrel 1 month ago
@dannysquirrel Well you should have made that more clear... I was not the first to go below the belt, you were the one getting angry. If you look back you'll see what I mean! Saying I have the 'Paddy' mentality and being the first to use the word 'Idiot'
paddypride 1 month ago
@paddypride P.S. If I ws trying to promote the idea that we should all be speaking a language that most of us haven't used in a couple of hundred years, I'd steer clear of the phrase "It's 2012 like, hello?!"
dannysquirrel 1 month ago
@dannysquirrel I wouldn't. As I have stated in my first comment, It is time for reformation. 2012 should be the year we teach people like you to have a little pride in our country and stop your type from destroying the languages appeal.
paddypride 1 month ago
@paddypride I accidentally stumbled upon this video and wrote you comment expressing my opinion. That's the wondrful thing about freedom of expresion.
If you want to promote the language, by all means, that's great but you have to be fair. You're not the only one I've had comments from here. Do you really want people who refer to me as "scum" because of my beleif on your side? Would those who died for our FREEDOM be happy to see that? I don't want to destroy the language, I just want choice.
dannysquirrel 1 month ago
@dannysquirrel I understand you wanting to express your opinion but saying it's a "useless" language is extremely offensive to those of us who have spent years studying it and who enjoy speaking it. As for the other comments, I have had no say in what other people write. I think we've resolved our differences now and we can leave it at that. Sin é (In Irish just to annoy you) :P I joke!
paddypride 1 month ago
@paddypride are you from the gaeltacht then? I'm thinking of doing the test to get the scholar ship in my school to go there. got any tips to improve my Irish?
CanadaxIreland 1 month ago
@CanadaxIreland I'm not actually from the Gaeltacht, just lucky to have been raised speaking Irish. As for tips I'm not sure, If you could find maybe a class or speak to some Irish speakers. Canada has a Gaeltacht doesn't it? Maybe even trying to find a video of somebody speaking Irish on here could help... sorry I couldn't be more of an assistance! Good Luck! :D
paddypride 1 month ago
To take a little break from all the language discussion - isn't Stephen Fry just the loveliest man? Seriously, he's such a sweetie.
CrownedWithLaurels 3 months ago 2
@CrownedWithLaurels I absolutely adore him.
sinshin92 3 months ago
Doesn't matter if everyone was fluent, there's no where to use it really, Gaeltacht areas excluded. Not many pubs, restaurants, shops, etc. that use Irish as a functioning language. That's what needs to change. Otherwise it will remain a "secret" and maybe even some would say an "elitist" language.
macunfraidh 3 months ago
Ma tá tú ag iarraidh an Ghaeilge a fhoghlaim, tosaigh! Ná bí ag rá nach bhfuil tú in ann, nó go bhfuil tú róshean. Bain úsáid as an nGaeilge ar an idirlín, mar shampla, nó déan cúrsa i nGleann Cholm Cille nó an Cheathrú Rua nó Inis Mór agus ar aghaidh leat!
ygtltkfc 3 months ago
is fearr gaeilge briste ná béarla cliste
Folester27 3 months ago 7
its a regret of mine that i didnt focus more in irish class at school i would love to be able to speak it. although it is very off puttting when you are told to write about a poem or astory and dissect its themes and images in a language that i am struggiling to understand.they need to teach it as its most basic form grammar and such and get rid of all the literature or the language will be killed off completely.
f0ggy92 3 months ago 2
I go to spiddal school,it is literally right beside ros na run...and stephen fry did NOT visit our school :/
JamieCFurbo 3 months ago
I love the Irish they're the best to party with. There were some exchange students from Ireland at my college they were really fun people and every one of them had musical talent. Do all Irish people play instruments? XD
MrROTD 3 months ago
English is becoming the "universal" language, this is the reality, but it is really beautiful in its own right.
However, we must preserve our gaelic language at all costs, in my own humble opinion the fault lies with the teachers of the language themselves.
For instance, how did the Israelis all speak "Hebrew" when they came from all over the world & we are all the one people & could not manage a "cupla focal"??!! its insane!
gespb32 3 months ago
@gespb32 . Have you heard an East Coast Canadian from Newfoundland or Nova Scotia? They have a slightly Gaelic sounding accent it's fascinating.
MrROTD 3 months ago
@MrROTD I have actually, my friend once picked up a taxi fare in Dublin, he struck up a conversation & thought they were from Wexford, it turns out they were from Newfoundland in Canada, the Irish settled there & kept their own accent over the years.
Amazing indeed!
gespb32 3 months ago
@bheadh I think it's telling that the comments written in Irish are written in terrible Irish. Not just spelling, but very basic grammar errors.
[for example: in bheadh's comment "teanga" should be "dteanga", "foghlaim" should be "fhoghlaim", "ceachteanna" should be "gceachtanna", "Ni raibh siad" should be "Níl sé"(! an especially egregious and ironic error), "daoine" should be "duine", "as" before Gaeilge.]
maroneill 3 months ago
@maroneill Like I said to the other person, Have you seen the rest of the entries? At least I'm trying. Maybe you should sign up to be a teacher? Do you also correct people on the gramatical errors and spelling in English? (which there are on about EVERY entry) You didn't offer to help, .(not that I care of course) ..and they wonder why people don't want to try learning Gaeilge. Like the above quote "is fearr Gaeilge briste na Bearla cliste." or..sorry about the missing "fadas".... Pog mo thoin.
bheadh 2 months ago
@bheadh Jesus, calm down. I think it's quite clear that you do care. I did actually help: I corrected the errors. I don't think it's a good reflection on you that you would get angry at someone for expecting your Irish to make sense. It is very important.
maroneill 2 months ago
@maroneill Gabh mo leithsceal. Go raibh maith agat...ach ba chuma liom agus is cuma liom. Maybe you should get off your "very important" teachers chair and back into your high chair. You knew what I was saying. It should have been obvious since you're a "pro"..that my Irish wasn't perfect..As any good teacher would, to have me realise my own mistakes...and figure them out myself. Instead, you pointed out to everyone just where and what they were. You know what to do with your "reflections" etc.
bheadh 2 months ago
There should be no sentimentality attached to a language. A language is simply a tool to allow you to communicate with other human beings. Once that tool ceases to be useful, as has the Irish language, it should be thrown out and forgotten. The modern "Irish" that children are forced to learn in schools today has almost nothing in common with what was historically spoken in Ireland anyway.
TheInformalstyle 3 months ago
@TheInformalstyle I think you miss a lot in the opinion you posted there. Language games form the rational mind, so the language used has a supreme importance on the way we look at/percieve and survive in the 'civilised' world as 'civilised' beings. The type of language, the ebb and flow of it, the way it frames the world/the attitudes of the society around us, is terribly significant. The idea of bining this language due to lack of use(basically economic and education factors)is just plain piss
roryphelan 3 months ago
Ta speis agam faoi Gaeilge ach I mo scoile ta an mhuinteoiri ufasach agus ni raibh me abalta dul go dti gheal teacht mar ta me boch. Is mian liom go raibh me ag rugadh san teaghlach gaeilge sin caint gaeilge Ach ta mi-adh orm
littleXjack 3 months ago
@littleXjack -- Can you give us the English language version!
goinghomesomeday1 3 months ago in playlist For replies
@goinghomesomeday1 I have an interest in Gaeilge but in my school the teachers are terrible and I'm not able to go to a Gaelteacht ( literally Iirsh house, means the area in which people speak Iirsh and enjoy irish culture ) because I am poor ( bocht* ) I wish that I was born in the Irish household that spoke Gaeilge, but I'm unlucky..... :) My irish isn't grammatically perfect but I can express myself well
littleXjack 3 months ago
@littleXjack I love ireland!
habbomanish 3 months ago
@littleXjack - Hi - well I learned the Irish of Peig Sayers, which was many years ago. Sadly, the Irish language was "beaten" into us by what I can only describe as "thick, ignorant bastards". I had a major disadvantage in that I had a very bad stutter/stammer. In school of the 1950 the bastards used to beat us senseless with leather straps and with their fists. So, like many others I grew to viciously hate the Irish language. Then the government also changed the language to its modern version.
goinghomesomeday1 3 months ago 3
Irish is basically reserved by Irish people for bitching about foreigners while abroad. "Here lads, look, tá an Nazis anseo". Bulletproof.
Neovator69 4 months ago
@Neovator69 wha? hahahaha, thats silly
littleXjack 3 months ago
Obviously this fellow doesn't live through a nation wasting its money trying to keep a dying language buoyant, instead of letting it take its natural course, and die, especially through a difficult economy as Ireland, which was never very rich, and whose prosperity only lasted for so long. Irish is bound to die, trying to keep it alive and force it upon an unwilling mass is idiocy. If people want to learn Irish, out of misguided Anglophobia, they can well do so from their own incentives.
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lightandbeautiful 4 months ago
Lots of comments on the Irish language. The spoken Irish language is just one of the Celtic languages which has become an historic language and of no real value in trading on world markets. How many international deals are done speaking Welsh, Scottish, Irish, Flemish or other Celtic language. How many international airports use Celtic languages in communicating with aircraft. Celtic languages should be preserved but not insisted on as an international communication standard.
goinghomesomeday1 4 months ago
@goinghomesomeday1 Flemish is not a Celtic language.
StrangeIsMyWorld 4 months ago
@StrangeIsMyWorld -
My mistake - sorry.
goinghomesomeday1 4 months ago
@goinghomesomeday1 Flemish is Belgian Dutch so its Germanic. Manx, Breton and Cornish on the otherhand are Celtic languages
irishgodfatherchris 4 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris OK Thanks.
goinghomesomeday1 4 months ago
@irishgodfatherchris The Celts originated in Switzerland and South Germany. To this day, in the villages north of Frankfurt, a lot of the local dialect is 1 to 1 with the Irish word. e.g. They call a pig a Muck. (Wiki Glauberg). The Irish, however, are in no way related to those Celts. The mitochondrial DNA shows the 'old' Irish came from the Basque country. I'm not trolling, just giving you researchable facts.
FFM0594 3 months ago
look at the dutch... they speak four languages and smoke pot...! (thanks eddie izzard for that comment, but it is true) all i mean is that it's a great way to keep your own language alive, by educating everyone in other languages too. wish I was quadrilingual!!
0deer7 4 months ago
Caithfimid ar teanga fein a foghlaim. Caithfimid ar ceachteanna a dheanamh, ar ndoigh, chomh maith. Ni raibh siad deacair. Ba mhaith liom 1,000,000 daoine ag caint Gaeilge os ar gcomhair. Ar fud an domhain.
bheadh 4 months ago 40
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@bheadh Speak english you twat
UnknownDemoTapes 3 months ago
@bheadh Déan obair le do litríocht agus éistfimid leat - "ár dteanga a fhoghlaim", "ár gceachtanna".
fishredone 2 months ago
@fishredone Gabh mo leithsceal. Have a look at the rest of the comments here..... At least I'm trying. "You" (what, do you have a mouse in your pocket?) don't have to "listen" if you don't want to.
bheadh 2 months ago
@bheadh
Ò mo Dhia...
I think I just understood Irish a little bit =|
Unisaur64 2 months ago
@Unisaur64 Ar fheahbhas! Keep trying to learn! No matter how many people try to shoot you down for gramatical errors and spelling mistakes. (they don't really want to help..they try to make themselves look better by trolling this page pointing out peoples mistakes) Beannacht De leat agus beannacht De le hanamacha na marbh. (God bless you and God bless the souls of the departed (dead)..)
bheadh 2 months ago
Me to
MunsterSpk 4 months ago
i absolutely hate the irish language
elfgelf 4 months ago
@elfgelf Irish leaving cert?
lord123j 4 months ago
@lord123j haha yeh :/ doing it next year!
elfgelf 4 months ago
@irefusetodisco
"Adopted out phonetic alphabet"..? I lived in China for 3 years: only in a dozen or so of the major cities do people even know PinYin (phonetic Chinese) exists!
They haven't adopted our alphabet, they've just come to a compromise for the sake of doing business on the international markets. They're hardly going to give up on a 3,000 year old alphabet just to suit us are they?!?!
And almost a third of all living people are Chinese speakers! They already ARE a world language!
Mystro84 4 months ago