@cageysqueeze Oh my gosh THANK YOU!!!! I hate it sooo much went people are afraid that their horse will learn to crib if they are stalled by him over a weekend at shows,rides,or fair. It is so not true we have 3 other horse that have LIVED with him and have never shown any signs of cribbing. Thanks again
@cageysqueeze TOTALLY CORRECT. If anybody is reading this who has a horse that weaves, or has a horse in their yard that weaves, please DO NOT move them away. Weaving is done out of boredom and frustration, and isolating the horse will only make the problem worse. Weaving is definitely not learned from other horses!!
I've used goats as companions in stalls. It does work to a degree but then you sometimes have a problem when leaving the goat behind. Not all the time but sometimes. Would be interesting what others have tried.
i disagree. Just like cribbing isn't a learned behavior neither is weaving. Weaving is not caused by boredom ans many people think but is actually the result of anxiety from not being able to be in contact with other horses and confinement. Both of these produce stress which cause the horse to try and find an outlet so they weave which releases endorphins and makes them feel better. It's common in ex-race horses because they are hotter horse's and thus more sensitive to any amt. of anxiety etc.
If one horse picks up the behaviour in the barn than there must have been an environmental trigger for it. Since all the horses are in the same environment the same trigger probably caused it in them as well. There is no scientific proof (and studies have been done to test it) that horses learn vices from one another. Other than that you're right. Just be careful because if their all in the same barn their all exposed to the same stimuli causing the same/ similar behavioural patterns.
Is it not because the horses are bored with nothing to do (e.g. being kept in a stable for too long) that the horses pick up these stereotypical behaviours. Then when one horse starts doing it the other horses on the yard copy them? Im not sure, it is just what I thought happened.
no there has been several scientific studies done on this and no horses showed any copy of another horse who stereotyped. look up research from Dr. Mason and her colleges. They forcus on stereotypes in animals including horses. box walking and weaving tends to be caused by boredom rooted from lack of social interaction. that doesn't mean it completely was though! the root causes of any stereotype are a multi fascist and complex problem in any animal :)
PS i would be more than happy to send you papers of current research and studies completed in the last 10 years that have come to such conclusion. these are peer reviewed and make the basis for text book books. they cover all (which there are so many) causes of stereotypies :O)
I did research last year into copying behaviour in regards to stereotypies. there is no evidence that horses copy,merely that they are exposed to the same environment.research shows that the belief of of such 'catching the behaviour' has led to decreased welfare through isolation. please have a read at some current research about this contraversial subject as i feel we all need to be aware so that we can educate correctly and increase welfare of horses around the world. :O)
hiya im not sure whether you will get this but im doing a seminar on looking at the appropriateness of current management techniques based on the understanding of horses specific needs, do your papers look at this?
....i swear that's what the horse does in the movie black beauty xD meegaa fail!
springie6879 1 month ago
very informative thanks!
sunrisedreamer56 1 month ago
tbh, you shouldnt be making this video, you need to be giving that poor horse some enrichment and stimulation.
AnsaaAmy 2 months ago
I just hate how it looks like a person curled up, ricking back and forth. It makes the horse look insane, I don't like it :(
GainingBananas 6 months ago
I looks sad, somehow. Give her some space to run and have fun!
Wolfmaedchen 9 months ago
sorry just signed in! there loads, mcbride and long, mcgreevy, and nicol. lots has been done on the use of mirrors which show they are effective
rrrrddddjjjj 11 months ago
Please note guys - WEAVING IS NOT A LEARNED BEHAVIOUR! Horses are unable to learn by association, proven by research.
If you get multiple horses weaving it is due to the environment and NOT association learning (or 'copying').
If horses were able to do this we could all take them to watch dressage tests!!!
cageysqueeze 1 year ago 3
@cageysqueeze Oh my gosh THANK YOU!!!! I hate it sooo much went people are afraid that their horse will learn to crib if they are stalled by him over a weekend at shows,rides,or fair. It is so not true we have 3 other horse that have LIVED with him and have never shown any signs of cribbing. Thanks again
xJustInismyBoix 11 months ago
@cageysqueeze TOTALLY CORRECT. If anybody is reading this who has a horse that weaves, or has a horse in their yard that weaves, please DO NOT move them away. Weaving is done out of boredom and frustration, and isolating the horse will only make the problem worse. Weaving is definitely not learned from other horses!!
civictr2010 4 months ago
Needs to be stimulated more.
animelover462 1 year ago
The use of mirrors for the control of stereotypic
weaving behaviour in the stabled horse
Lynn M. McAfee, Daniel S. Mills*, Jonathan J. Cooper
Applied Animal Behaviour Science 78 (2002) 159–173
according to the article the cause isnt boredom but rather frustration from anticipating something like before feed or turnout time.
nillyadiv 1 year ago
Very Nicely Stated and very VERY common in overly stalled horses/ex race horses.
LitlMiraclesFarmette 2 years ago
I've used goats as companions in stalls. It does work to a degree but then you sometimes have a problem when leaving the goat behind. Not all the time but sometimes. Would be interesting what others have tried.
jengacrock 2 years ago
i disagree. Just like cribbing isn't a learned behavior neither is weaving. Weaving is not caused by boredom ans many people think but is actually the result of anxiety from not being able to be in contact with other horses and confinement. Both of these produce stress which cause the horse to try and find an outlet so they weave which releases endorphins and makes them feel better. It's common in ex-race horses because they are hotter horse's and thus more sensitive to any amt. of anxiety etc.
A168HJ 2 years ago
omg , i never new it was common for racehorses to weave
now that explains why my horse weaves :@ :L
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CollfoscoJumper 3 years ago
If one horse picks up the behaviour in the barn than there must have been an environmental trigger for it. Since all the horses are in the same environment the same trigger probably caused it in them as well. There is no scientific proof (and studies have been done to test it) that horses learn vices from one another. Other than that you're right. Just be careful because if their all in the same barn their all exposed to the same stimuli causing the same/ similar behavioural patterns.
violetsan85 3 years ago
Is it not because the horses are bored with nothing to do (e.g. being kept in a stable for too long) that the horses pick up these stereotypical behaviours. Then when one horse starts doing it the other horses on the yard copy them? Im not sure, it is just what I thought happened.
Thanks
cogden100 2 years ago
no there has been several scientific studies done on this and no horses showed any copy of another horse who stereotyped. look up research from Dr. Mason and her colleges. They forcus on stereotypes in animals including horses. box walking and weaving tends to be caused by boredom rooted from lack of social interaction. that doesn't mean it completely was though! the root causes of any stereotype are a multi fascist and complex problem in any animal :)
violetsan85 2 years ago
PS i would be more than happy to send you papers of current research and studies completed in the last 10 years that have come to such conclusion. these are peer reviewed and make the basis for text book books. they cover all (which there are so many) causes of stereotypies :O)
rrrrddddjjjj 3 years ago
I did research last year into copying behaviour in regards to stereotypies. there is no evidence that horses copy,merely that they are exposed to the same environment.research shows that the belief of of such 'catching the behaviour' has led to decreased welfare through isolation. please have a read at some current research about this contraversial subject as i feel we all need to be aware so that we can educate correctly and increase welfare of horses around the world. :O)
rrrrddddjjjj 3 years ago
@rrrrddddjjjj
hiya im not sure whether you will get this but im doing a seminar on looking at the appropriateness of current management techniques based on the understanding of horses specific needs, do your papers look at this?
KatinaNason 2 years ago