Awesome job guys! Would be nice to run some media apps on the Wii. I'm less excited by homebrew games though because, frankly, I've never played a console homebrew game that was worth a damn. At least not one in 3D. Homebrew coders generally don't have the time or expertise to make a quality console game.
Took em long enough. Theres also apperently some "save" exploit for zelda now. Theres some screen shots around of the game being crashed with it. and 4 lines of code can be ran too from it. 2008 is looking great for the hacking scene
Yeah, this is what Bushing and Segher (and perhaps others of the group who did this hack) are working on now. It sounds as though it's progressing nicely, though there isn't much more to say than that since it isn't released yet, not ready yet.
The Wii is roughly twice as fast on a whole than the Gamecube and it has more RAM available to it. But yeah, it's essentially a Gamecube. WIth that little extra horsepower though, it should prove to be the perfect console for multimedia and emulators up to the N64.
I think anybody that didnt know that the Wii is a Gamecube advance. When Nintendo decided to make this they stated on G4TV that they only had so much to make the system so they couldnt go overboard like the 360 or PS3. If you compare both systems they are just alike except for the bonus features the Wii have. Anybody that cant believe that is extremely naive. On top of that the cube wasnt a bad system it just didnt get no air play because of the PS2 and Xbox.
He is at a hacker convention, and he also (with his team) formulated this one hour before the presentation. Don't worry, he knows leagues more than you ever will
This means that these guys can produce a linux distribution for Wii, since the Wii is based on a PowerPC CPU. When they discover which WiFi drivers are required in order to activate them, you should be able to use your Wii as a full desktop PC. With all the hardware available now in kernel mode, homecooked firmware could be fast available so the ("safety screen") could be removed, and non-commercial software (like emulators) can be released.
not trying to attack you, TiagoTiagoT, or anything but why do you think the guys from c3 want to fake that? and if they would want to fake it wouldn't they do it in last years c3? (since they already found one backdoor for the wii (sort of)) :)
This pretty much opens a lot of doors for homebrew developers, as it is now possible for them to access the Wii hardware (Wii-mote). Check back in about 6 months, there will probably be a lot of freeware games floating around for the Wii.
besides th fact that the wii was looked as a upscale model of the game cube really disappointed me, and to compare it to 360 is just an insult, but good job on the break though
By using the method they said, you would have to move the wires yourself to get it to work. A chip or a disc wouldn't work. But if they can go deep enough in the memory to find the encryption key a chip might be possible.
ryan, the chaos computing congress is a hacker convention that happens in Germany. It's more in depth than defcon and more fun than blackhat. One of the best cons.
Basically, they messed about with the innards of the Wii and found the magic number that lets them do what they want. This basically means people will be able to make their own Wii software (and potentially allow pirate games) , and people will be able to use it without having to buy a "mod chip" and soldering it to the systems insides. Very groovy; Linux on Wii has been hoped for a while, and this was the breakthrough they needed.
You made that much too n00b friendly... gives a bit of a false impression imo. Btw, pirating games has been happening since the ability to run bakcups with the mod chip.
It's great they have a lead, coming from the PSP development scene, I bought a Wii because I can't wait to make use of the Wiimote in my homebrew. Much to my dismay, only GC homebrew was available, even after a year of being released. Hopefully a softmod comes out of this, but id take an SDK over a softmod anyday.
Now here is another question proving my non-geek-status: Where will someone be able to find the no-doubt obviously cool games these guys will create? Ebay? Bittorrent and then save to DVD? Thanks again!
Can anyone explain the importance of this? Does this development mean anything for region unlocking, playing backups, emulation? I have Japanese Wii and don't want to install an expensive and risky mod to play US games, and I can only buy Japanese VC games. I HATE region locking.
It definitely has importance for at least 2 and probably all 3 things you mention. I'm not sure about region locking.
Essentially they are saying that they are now able to run their own software on the Wii. They were able to do this before, but only with very restricted access to the Wii's "fun hardware" like wireless and bluetooth. Now they have learned how to access the full power of the Wii and use it in their programs.
k, i understand that they had to hard-mod their wii to get the encryption/decryption keys, but now that they have those codes, will ppl need a hardware modded wii to play homebrew? is it as simple as wii linux releasing a distribution and we burn it and run it or do we still need a mod chip?
Point missed here is that even WITHOUT a drivechip, the people that DO have them are now able to dump the shit out of the Wii.
If they can mod Lego Starwars to run any piece of software, I'm pretty sure they can find out where the Wii Channels are stored, add more and have them run, perhaps with no drive modifications
I agree with haapsari, would anybody be so kind as to dumb this down a bit and tell me why it was so cool that they managed to do that? I have a wii myself and would def like to understand more about it.
So far developers had only been able to write Gamecube homebrew, that means no Wii hardware support (including the Wiimote) and limited access to system resources.
This right here is the first software that they are able to run in Wii mode. Meaning they have access to full hardware, including wiimote, Wifi, Bluetooth, etc.
This means we could soon see a DVD/video player compatible with the wiimote and with no disc swapping, and that would be only the beginning.
LOL!!!!! Everyone below me has geeky comments like "Actually, that's nearly impossible... by the ned of 2008, Nintendo will have grown thrice the corporation's of Sony and XBOX combined. The Wii sells at around a $50 a sale....." Everyone who has had a geeky comment about this clip should go kill themselves.
Nice vid hopefully there will be a mainstream hack soon so everybody can enjoy the joys of homebrew. Imagine playing SMB on NES with the remote or stuff like that. Possibilities are endless.
Jeez, what is with all the negative people throwing insults at each other in these comments? Get a grip folks, fight privately if you want to flame each other.
i wonder if they'll release their .iso to the world once they've gotten the Star Wars LEGO disc channel screen. (To bypass intellectual property stuffs, i think) But then again, to get rid of that screen will take a great deal more work...
To my understanding... this acts for wii as the Passme3 / Superpass work for DS, correct?
I don't think so...it seems that what has been done is: They hacked into the Wii and got the encryption keys, decrypted Lego Starwars, and then hacked their own code into it. There is no reason that in the future folks won't be able to make a totally original disc. As for piracy, that's already possible (this has nothing to do with piracy). If anything this will give having a modchip a more legit function (seeing that homebrew could be run).
Don't think so. Sounds like by shorting pins on the chips they were able to access memory outside the bit that GameCube-mode can access. In this memory they tracked down the encryption keys and stuff, then used these to correctly encrypt their own demo software, this would presumably then run on a bog-standard, off-the-shelf, unmodded Wii.
Not quite. They ran a test program in GC mode which dumped the system memory. Usually that wouldn't achieve much, but they did a small hardware hack which allowed access to the FULL memory of the Wii (which is usually protected in GC mode). When they sifted through the memory they found the encryption key.
There's a big significance of this Encryption Key. Without any encryption keys, the hardware will essentially ignore your commands of wanting Wii access, and possibly bump you to GameCube mode. That or the system will not work. Encryption keys have been used in many consoles like Playstation 2/3 and XBOX (360)
wii love it I watched it live unlike you noobs who arent there to see it streamed, next year im going in person!
anyone who says were nerds are right buy wrong in doing so. please dont hate us, were do these things for free, unless were doing a job for one person.
honestly? where was the power point to help this guy out for the first 3 and a half minutes? i know what he was saying but that's only because i'm already familiar with the wii...
hahaha. I love how at the beginning he corrects himself and says "a FIEND OF MINE has been playing with the wii", and then at the end they can't wait to get the hell away from there.. nintendo was probably firing up the party v& before they got off the stage.
Games could very easily check the firmware (and disallow access)...I doubt they would do this however as they haven't done anything of the sort to DS units with modded firmware.
on top of that, unlike the xbox 360 I don't think too many people will care weather they get banned and cant download video games from 1988 anymore. Only reason I haven't modded my 360 is cause I love Live too much to get banned.
U can still play on the net with ur modded xbox360 if you get banned off microsoft's network. You just need a cable to connect ur xbox360 to ur computer.
Apparently, they found some way to bypass/access the IO bridge device, by either not enabling the IO processor bridge protection code, or by somehow bypassing it.
In the future, you may be able to put in a disk first, and play pirated games(But a patch may be required).
Initially though, it will allow custom programmers to access/create homebrew (user created) games.
It seems that's exactly what it means. They have accessed the Wii Memory (all Wii code which allows the games to play).
Modchips just turned that code off but you couldn't use games which weren't from your region. This, however, means you can change the codes of the game so you can actually trick the Wii into thinking you have a PAL game when you're actually using a japanese NTSC game.
I'm no expert in this but that's how I understand this.
A modchip is needed to run the code. Unlike GC discs, Wii discs are encrypted, meaning that you cannot just burn your own "homebrew" code and run it in Wii mode. Now the encryption key is known and custom code can be encrypted, it can be run from a DVD-R BUT the disc copy protection still needs to be bypassed. THIS IS NOT A SOFTMOD!
I want to say to the people that are afraid of a firmware update breaking this...I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to do anything without changing the encryption key used on the discs (from the one these guys have discovered), thus breaking older games, or at least making it so new games couldn't be run on older systems, neither of which they would ever do.
EPIC. WIN.
OMIGHTYGUY 2 years ago 31
Damn I've missed out... oh well
NFS4LFE 2 years ago
bunch of nerds! but heck without nerds who would we work for ! and all the greatest hacks
ming1993 3 years ago
knowing bushing(the guy you see on the video) since i talk to him once in a while he's not THAT much of a nerd ;)
he's smart, thats true :D
Daco65 2 years ago 3
Is there a full audio/video recording of this?
I couldn't find a thing about this on the CCC resources..
Sterlingfox 3 years ago
Awesome job guys! Would be nice to run some media apps on the Wii. I'm less excited by homebrew games though because, frankly, I've never played a console homebrew game that was worth a damn. At least not one in 3D. Homebrew coders generally don't have the time or expertise to make a quality console game.
KIFulgore 3 years ago 6
Hey you're right...
Nin10doFan 3 years ago
Never known anything about the Wii's hardware, thanks for the de-mystifying.
ut2k4wikichici 3 years ago
Took em long enough. Theres also apperently some "save" exploit for zelda now. Theres some screen shots around of the game being crashed with it. and 4 lines of code can be ran too from it. 2008 is looking great for the hacking scene
GhostSonic 4 years ago
Yeah, this is what Bushing and Segher (and perhaps others of the group who did this hack) are working on now. It sounds as though it's progressing nicely, though there isn't much more to say than that since it isn't released yet, not ready yet.
ZeldaDD 4 years ago 4
8 lines. Jebus.
ElementalTJ 4 years ago
Custom firmwares anyone? it would be a great idea just like the psp.
PheNOMofHDC 4 years ago 11
The Wii is roughly twice as fast on a whole than the Gamecube and it has more RAM available to it. But yeah, it's essentially a Gamecube. WIth that little extra horsepower though, it should prove to be the perfect console for multimedia and emulators up to the N64.
thatmariolover 4 years ago 6
And gamecube.
Ahaha, I'm sorry, I'm sorry! XD I had to say it.
I was kidding around, but either way, it's cool that we might see some cool things finally.
IceGod64 4 years ago
There is already up to N64 emulators for GameCube, but yes, they will run better on Wii :)
Adictron 4 years ago
Dude, there are N64 games on the PSP. :)
ElementalTJ 4 years ago
but they run like shit
MrSpock666 3 years ago 7
Actualy daedalus runs great on psp, try latest revision with mario 64 you will be suprised.
Basically open source = dynarec, which was handy
martinstatic 3 years ago
Yeah! finally i can start programming for the wii!
n1cko01 4 years ago 12
I think anybody that didnt know that the Wii is a Gamecube advance. When Nintendo decided to make this they stated on G4TV that they only had so much to make the system so they couldnt go overboard like the 360 or PS3. If you compare both systems they are just alike except for the bonus features the Wii have. Anybody that cant believe that is extremely naive. On top of that the cube wasnt a bad system it just didnt get no air play because of the PS2 and Xbox.
SikWitThiz 4 years ago
Erm, 3 things
1)"I think anybody that didnt know that the Wii is a Gamecube advance." is what? You never finished that sentence
2)The GC got loads of airplay, it was a better console overall than the PS2, graphics wise, game wise, fun wise.
3)Thw wii is the same as a GC? What? It has more RAM, internal memory and its fully online!
You obivously don't know what you are talking about...
lifeinsepia 4 years ago
He is at a hacker convention, and he also (with his team) formulated this one hour before the presentation. Don't worry, he knows leagues more than you ever will
Heptopus 4 years ago 19
this is very good news, really need to get into some wii hacking myself
shokora666 4 years ago
This means that these guys can produce a linux distribution for Wii, since the Wii is based on a PowerPC CPU. When they discover which WiFi drivers are required in order to activate them, you should be able to use your Wii as a full desktop PC. With all the hardware available now in kernel mode, homecooked firmware could be fast available so the ("safety screen") could be removed, and non-commercial software (like emulators) can be released.
liquidsebbey 4 years ago 4
during the beta wii development stage, a dev was shown on youtube playing half life 2 on the wii online
it is certainly very possbile
zawmintu 4 years ago
INCREDIBLE!!!
but whats this with "improved gamecube"? I find that offensive, but the rest was pretty cool!
runekey 4 years ago 2
Thats all it is really, like Gamecube 1.5
Still thats fine with me as it still plays fine.
ernestcunningham 4 years ago 2
It is though, look at the hardware specs. The thing is basically the same with a wiimote
elwaywitvac 4 years ago 3
Kick ass!
Lexxpac2006 4 years ago
what was projected on that big screen there could be easily faked, but I'm pretty sure that was for real :)
TiagoTiagoT 4 years ago
not trying to attack you, TiagoTiagoT, or anything but why do you think the guys from c3 want to fake that? and if they would want to fake it wouldn't they do it in last years c3? (since they already found one backdoor for the wii (sort of)) :)
hobeabd 4 years ago 2
So hot! Really, BB!
drsteindc 4 years ago
brillant, brillant work!
hockeywall 4 years ago
Wow, that's really good!
julabard 4 years ago
awesome video guys, made me want to play the wii so bad hahaha
JO3L101 4 years ago
This pretty much opens a lot of doors for homebrew developers, as it is now possible for them to access the Wii hardware (Wii-mote). Check back in about 6 months, there will probably be a lot of freeware games floating around for the Wii.
ChronoBasher 4 years ago 11
Just smaller than the 360?
I DON'T THINK SO!
They did a good job on this...
jimjamkillsnerds 4 years ago
i understand what he is talking about, but what will this lead to?
tomzzztomz 4 years ago
have a fun of the wii
nice movie very good
royalemember 4 years ago
very nice, though it would be funny to see XBMC on wii. how bout WiiMC
darkstormyrain1 4 years ago
kool very nice good vid
darkrane496 4 years ago 2
Eh ben Nintendo a du souci à se faire....
cgael 4 years ago 2
very cool.
probrably the next action will be run Linux. =P
masterzionbr 4 years ago 2
that is amazing, I can't wait to see the finished product...haha i wish i could pull something like that off :)
guanchi 4 years ago 3
the Wii is just BEAGGING port of XBMC.... nice work guys
sausagenmuff 4 years ago
Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!
DavidBeoulve 4 years ago
//word!! (well that was corny of me)
no but seriouisly gotta hand it to them
Royalboom 4 years ago
UP THE SCENE ON WII !! GREAT JOB
ELADIO3000 4 years ago
well done :)
trople 4 years ago
so what does this mean? They didnt show anything amazing, did they?
PS where was this event held at?
manaiish 4 years ago
They finally got full access to all Wii hardware with their own software, so in long term that might mean we could install Linux on Wii, for example.
The congress was held in Berlin, Germany.
JeZii 4 years ago 3
Crediar, I remember you by releasing sometime ago the GameCube homebrew game Ascii Fighters. I'm wrong?
Nice to see Wii fully exploited!! :)
160R 4 years ago 7
yep that's right ;)
crediar 4 years ago
i love and have THE WII
bubblesband 4 years ago 6
Keep up the good work :) I will be supporting you over at my site.
wiichargedotcom 4 years ago 4
besides th fact that the wii was looked as a upscale model of the game cube really disappointed me, and to compare it to 360 is just an insult, but good job on the break though
cierra121 4 years ago
I've seen these graphica card it's as small as a prossesor. The one in pc's is like a sun and the one in wii's is like the earth.
Madblaster6 4 years ago
Very interesting...can't wait to see what they do next with it.
MrBrawl 4 years ago
Does anyone have a link to the website owned by the people who performed his hack?
braschlosan 4 years ago
thx man :DDD
we wait on hack PS3
cavarr 4 years ago
would this help play DVDs
highspeed14 4 years ago
i thought the wii could play gamecube games i mean like useing the ninjuck and wiimote
mman5795 4 years ago
Cute trick with the address lines. Similar to how A20M# was used to break Xbox 1.1.
Myriachan 4 years ago
I hope that at least 7 months we can look the beautiful *Ubuntu Splash screen on a Wii, long live to *Ubuntu from Colombia¡¡
afgomez84 4 years ago
The ds emultion scene must be trilled with this, i'm not sure how they're going last time i checked just a few comersial games worked.
Now that they have full acces to the wii-mote they'll be able to use it as the stylus
Guess it wont be soon but i'm looking forward playing elite beat agents on the wii
Endogene 4 years ago
Amazing, kudos to you!
Flamerox 4 years ago
I must say, that is pimptastic. Keep up the good work.
jaketheintern 4 years ago 7
By using the method they said, you would have to move the wires yourself to get it to work. A chip or a disc wouldn't work. But if they can go deep enough in the memory to find the encryption key a chip might be possible.
xcheesyxbaconx 4 years ago
ryan, the chaos computing congress is a hacker convention that happens in Germany. It's more in depth than defcon and more fun than blackhat. One of the best cons.
miserynotes 4 years ago
Is this a hackers version of E3?
ryancurran 4 years ago 12
I officially have no idea what he is talking about 82% of the time. I want to be a geek.
(Truly. No sarcasm intended -- only respect for those who understand all this.)
mariajl 4 years ago 22
Basically, they messed about with the innards of the Wii and found the magic number that lets them do what they want. This basically means people will be able to make their own Wii software (and potentially allow pirate games) , and people will be able to use it without having to buy a "mod chip" and soldering it to the systems insides. Very groovy; Linux on Wii has been hoped for a while, and this was the breakthrough they needed.
aawood 4 years ago 5
You made that much too n00b friendly... gives a bit of a false impression imo. Btw, pirating games has been happening since the ability to run bakcups with the mod chip.
It's great they have a lead, coming from the PSP development scene, I bought a Wii because I can't wait to make use of the Wiimote in my homebrew. Much to my dismay, only GC homebrew was available, even after a year of being released. Hopefully a softmod comes out of this, but id take an SDK over a softmod anyday.
sg57 4 years ago
THANKS for that great response. Now I get it!
Now here is another question proving my non-geek-status: Where will someone be able to find the no-doubt obviously cool games these guys will create? Ebay? Bittorrent and then save to DVD? Thanks again!
mariajl 4 years ago
This is going to be good, amnd i dont think updates would mess with it.
KevlarKnight 4 years ago 2
Your right, an update to fix this problem would make any older games not function.
CheezyMastah 4 years ago
Amazing, i hope you can finish your work! :3
Markuf 4 years ago
Fantastic, now the Wii's at the same stage the psp was at a few years ago, so roll on the homebrew(in a month or two of course)
Thrashyiff 4 years ago
wii is now worth getting for.
jubeininja69 4 years ago
Where did this take place? HackConf 2007? :)
spiceee 4 years ago
it took place on the 24c3. It's a big german hacker meeting (organized by the CCC)
BSOD1337 4 years ago
Can anyone explain the importance of this? Does this development mean anything for region unlocking, playing backups, emulation? I have Japanese Wii and don't want to install an expensive and risky mod to play US games, and I can only buy Japanese VC games. I HATE region locking.
9tails 4 years ago 2
It definitely has importance for at least 2 and probably all 3 things you mention. I'm not sure about region locking.
Essentially they are saying that they are now able to run their own software on the Wii. They were able to do this before, but only with very restricted access to the Wii's "fun hardware" like wireless and bluetooth. Now they have learned how to access the full power of the Wii and use it in their programs.
pinchhazard 4 years ago
The mod chips are neither risky nor expensive. I had my Wii mod-chipped the day I bought it and haven't looked back.
pickles4all 4 years ago
k, i understand that they had to hard-mod their wii to get the encryption/decryption keys, but now that they have those codes, will ppl need a hardware modded wii to play homebrew? is it as simple as wii linux releasing a distribution and we burn it and run it or do we still need a mod chip?
blkhockeypro19 4 years ago
no need a modchip, like PSP did having homebrew games.
vikingscool 4 years ago
he needed to use openwii mod chip on his wii.
I talked with bushing other day.
ELY3M 4 years ago
does bushing or his friends have a blog/website about their research?
sacs1800 4 years ago
Imagine it wind waker with the wiimote and nunchuck....coool
ploggy24 4 years ago 7
wow real talented speaker. :)
wii kicks butt.
nys0ccermiddy 4 years ago 8
linux wii build is almost done.
i cant wait!
DutchNelson 4 years ago 5
Where do you see this?
ZeldaDD 4 years ago
Why would he be afraid? Now he has shown what he's capable of and i think Nintendo would rather like to employ him than chasing him.
sugbarn 4 years ago 2
Indeed, there are far too many lazy bums and way too few people like him that get the good jobs :D
barrydegeling 4 years ago
Point missed here is that even WITHOUT a drivechip, the people that DO have them are now able to dump the shit out of the Wii.
If they can mod Lego Starwars to run any piece of software, I'm pretty sure they can find out where the Wii Channels are stored, add more and have them run, perhaps with no drive modifications
JSTysoe 4 years ago 5
awesome,
\m/
justomjustom 4 years ago
well u know what this means!!! dont update your wii if any updates come out soon xD
i have to say i was very impressed and cant wait to see what 2008 holds for the modding world! :D
Happy new years!
SuckXmyXchickeN 4 years ago 5
You don't understand. BigN can't fix this without making every Game out there unplayable.
RFTL 4 years ago
I would like to know if he is using latest wii with d2c with lateset firmware? or older wii with latest firmware?
what mod chip do he use?
ELY3M 4 years ago
He has the latest update because you can see the Wii clock.
trevorchannel 4 years ago
what drive chip did he use on his wii?
wiikey or D2CKey?
ELY3M 4 years ago
wii's future is about to skyrocket due to the fact that brawl is going to be out soon.
sigmundmonroe 4 years ago 2
I agree with haapsari, would anybody be so kind as to dumb this down a bit and tell me why it was so cool that they managed to do that? I have a wii myself and would def like to understand more about it.
cutter1863 4 years ago
So far developers had only been able to write Gamecube homebrew, that means no Wii hardware support (including the Wiimote) and limited access to system resources.
This right here is the first software that they are able to run in Wii mode. Meaning they have access to full hardware, including wiimote, Wifi, Bluetooth, etc.
This means we could soon see a DVD/video player compatible with the wiimote and with no disc swapping, and that would be only the beginning.
ricsmania 4 years ago 8
The future looks bright I can't wait to see what programmers will come up with
airsoft1117 4 years ago 3
im more interested to see what the hombrew scene will come up with on the xbox 360.
1eLWOOD1 4 years ago
Before you couldn't run Wii homebrew, only Gamecube homebrew, now you should be able to homebrew that can use the Wii Remote.
airsoft1117 4 years ago 3
This guy gets the records for the most on-topic tangents in 5 minutes that I have ever seen in my life.
veltliner1978 4 years ago 8
LOL!!!!! Everyone below me has geeky comments like "Actually, that's nearly impossible... by the ned of 2008, Nintendo will have grown thrice the corporation's of Sony and XBOX combined. The Wii sells at around a $50 a sale....." Everyone who has had a geeky comment about this clip should go kill themselves.
stifflerstud4469 4 years ago
Those "geeks" will probably make more money in a week than you can make your entire life.
JmanRBS 4 years ago 10
awsome. very interesting!
amandacosner 4 years ago
Aww man, why didn't this news come out earlier, damnit I just modded my wii. Oh well I will just unmodded it or buy a new wii ^_^
LJkAze 4 years ago 4
AFAIK this will work with any existing drivechip.
hydrazthrone 4 years ago
I have no idea what he was talking about, he totally confused me there.
Mo2tehfo 4 years ago 33
Dito!
russie1234 4 years ago
Huzzah!
BrendenFerguson 4 years ago
i agree
mase217 4 years ago
Poor guy is so nervous. You'd think he'd have more confidence after what he accomplished. Oh well
ligyro 4 years ago 5
Yeah its true, pretty nervous, but I think it was also mixed in with the excitement. I think I'd be nervous myself.
Nervous speech but good accomplishment.
samus252 4 years ago
Dude its a pretty good system, i have one and the games are fun,the only bad thing is deciding where the sencor bar is gonna go
kobeecrown 4 years ago
YES my seond Wii remote goes spaz if its not with in 1 1/2m of and direct in front of sensor but my main one is fine.
glyder56 4 years ago
Nice vid hopefully there will be a mainstream hack soon so everybody can enjoy the joys of homebrew. Imagine playing SMB on NES with the remote or stuff like that. Possibilities are endless.
ninestar 4 years ago 2
You can already use Wii remotes on the computer limitlessly. Theres almost no point to this.
KevinFanningroxorz 4 years ago
I had a feeling this would be possible but nearly as fast as it has been..
thx for the vid!
xDIRTYSOUTHx 4 years ago 6
Jeez, what is with all the negative people throwing insults at each other in these comments? Get a grip folks, fight privately if you want to flame each other.
ZeldaDD 4 years ago 14
the guy seems really nervous..
but great vid.
AvACosmonaut 4 years ago
I'm glad to see this. =D
i wonder if they'll release their .iso to the world once they've gotten the Star Wars LEGO disc channel screen. (To bypass intellectual property stuffs, i think) But then again, to get rid of that screen will take a great deal more work...
To my understanding... this acts for wii as the Passme3 / Superpass work for DS, correct?
imgod22222 4 years ago
I don't think so...it seems that what has been done is: They hacked into the Wii and got the encryption keys, decrypted Lego Starwars, and then hacked their own code into it. There is no reason that in the future folks won't be able to make a totally original disc. As for piracy, that's already possible (this has nothing to do with piracy). If anything this will give having a modchip a more legit function (seeing that homebrew could be run).
ZeldaDD 4 years ago 8
great!
alexv589 4 years ago
So the Starlet chip is why I have to turn the damn Wii off and back on to get to the main menu when I'm done playing Gamecube games? Lame.
zombionaleash 4 years ago
wow... congratulations to the people working on it! homebrew is gonna be awesome on the wii.
echiro12345 4 years ago
thank you for getting the ball rolling. the scene will be growing soon now.
twiggygun 4 years ago 2
Nice!
SloNicKTub 4 years ago
Nice work.
I've always wondered if Wii could pull out 720p trough component if programmed to do so. Hopefully we'll see some real homebrew soon.
jizmonetti 4 years ago 3
Hello World!
deadroach 4 years ago
Great job, guys!
RaccoonSam 4 years ago
So that's it? They just jumped to a memory address that a Gamecube game shouldn't access in Gamecube mode and was able to inject code?
BunmeiKasoku 4 years ago
Don't think so. Sounds like by shorting pins on the chips they were able to access memory outside the bit that GameCube-mode can access. In this memory they tracked down the encryption keys and stuff, then used these to correctly encrypt their own demo software, this would presumably then run on a bog-standard, off-the-shelf, unmodded Wii.
eXOBeX 4 years ago
Not quite. They ran a test program in GC mode which dumped the system memory. Usually that wouldn't achieve much, but they did a small hardware hack which allowed access to the FULL memory of the Wii (which is usually protected in GC mode). When they sifted through the memory they found the encryption key.
aliask 4 years ago 5
Can anyone explain to me the significance of this 'Encryption Key' :S
DominaceMK 4 years ago
There's a big significance of this Encryption Key. Without any encryption keys, the hardware will essentially ignore your commands of wanting Wii access, and possibly bump you to GameCube mode. That or the system will not work. Encryption keys have been used in many consoles like Playstation 2/3 and XBOX (360)
deltatux 4 years ago
wii love it I watched it live unlike you noobs who arent there to see it streamed, next year im going in person!
anyone who says were nerds are right buy wrong in doing so. please dont hate us, were do these things for free, unless were doing a job for one person.
m0dm0use 4 years ago
I have been waitimg on this day since before I got my wii!
Mutenicity 4 years ago
I didnt know that homebrew scene have conferences :)
azotyp 4 years ago 2
honestly? where was the power point to help this guy out for the first 3 and a half minutes? i know what he was saying but that's only because i'm already familiar with the wii...
Dwebtron 4 years ago 4
does this mean we can play imports now?
creamsodaboy 4 years ago
Hope this means that we can get a Wii Swap magic.
ThorangeNova 4 years ago 2
The future is coming!
Total awsome.
Good work!
shadow1w2 4 years ago 2
No, fair enough question.. not everyone on youtube is hyper aggressiv idiot.
ZeldaDD is pretty much right. Pretty much anything that isn't created with intentions or permission from the parent company (Nintendo in this case)
ungamedplayer 4 years ago 3
This is great.
brianutube 4 years ago 3
What a accomplishment! Imagine all the possibilities now....Wifi Super Mario War Anyone?
SICAC 4 years ago
could someone explain to me what this does exactly? (im not a hacker)
Cody2Xtreme 4 years ago
So people who have a wii could play there gamecube games with the wiimote....thats kool...and this is coming from someone who only has a 360.
ElectricS45 4 years ago
YAY! They finally made it! :'D
Loginer 4 years ago 2
you think if you were presenting something you'd want to look a little more professional...like wearing a suit, or doing your hair?
littledivo11 4 years ago
Hackers don't do the suit thing, lol
They let the work speak for itself and this certainly did!
HidekiAdam 4 years ago 6
This is very good news.
Magma541 4 years ago 87
From a completely ignorant standpoint, what the heck does this exactly mean?
Colten99 4 years ago
Wow, +57?!
You won the + prize!
UltimatePisman 4 years ago
yes indeed
thanos13DASK 4 years ago
hahaha. I love how at the beginning he corrects himself and says "a FIEND OF MINE has been playing with the wii", and then at the end they can't wait to get the hell away from there.. nintendo was probably firing up the party v& before they got off the stage.
awesome
pete275 4 years ago 8
He actually says "I" then "actually I and some friends" ....
hellodon 4 years ago
So we would be talking about a firmware modifikation like the 360??, so nintendo would know when we have our console modiffied and ban us like MS? xD
Sokosu 4 years ago
well that would need a unifiied online enviroment for them to do that and the Wii has none
nidvaeda 4 years ago 16
Games could very easily check the firmware (and disallow access)...I doubt they would do this however as they haven't done anything of the sort to DS units with modded firmware.
ZeldaDD 4 years ago
on top of that, unlike the xbox 360 I don't think too many people will care weather they get banned and cant download video games from 1988 anymore. Only reason I haven't modded my 360 is cause I love Live too much to get banned.
TheBigBentley911 4 years ago 3
U can still play on the net with ur modded xbox360 if you get banned off microsoft's network. You just need a cable to connect ur xbox360 to ur computer.
Paraz1tul 4 years ago
If that's an honest question, then it's software that has been custom made (at 'home'), to do something specific.
dancraggs 4 years ago 5
fuking fantastic i cant wait to code
arabtipz 4 years ago 9
So wait, we don't need any modchips to do this?
reddevil100 4 years ago
That is what it seems.
Apparently, they found some way to bypass/access the IO bridge device, by either not enabling the IO processor bridge protection code, or by somehow bypassing it.
In the future, you may be able to put in a disk first, and play pirated games(But a patch may be required).
Initially though, it will allow custom programmers to access/create homebrew (user created) games.
ungamedplayer 4 years ago
It seems that's exactly what it means. They have accessed the Wii Memory (all Wii code which allows the games to play).
Modchips just turned that code off but you couldn't use games which weren't from your region. This, however, means you can change the codes of the game so you can actually trick the Wii into thinking you have a PAL game when you're actually using a japanese NTSC game.
I'm no expert in this but that's how I understand this.
HaraldHoerwick 4 years ago
A modchip is needed to run the code. Unlike GC discs, Wii discs are encrypted, meaning that you cannot just burn your own "homebrew" code and run it in Wii mode. Now the encryption key is known and custom code can be encrypted, it can be run from a DVD-R BUT the disc copy protection still needs to be bypassed. THIS IS NOT A SOFTMOD!
rajid187 4 years ago 22
But, hopefully, it can lead to one. =]
liceuloucos 4 years ago
I want to say to the people that are afraid of a firmware update breaking this...I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be able to do anything without changing the encryption key used on the discs (from the one these guys have discovered), thus breaking older games, or at least making it so new games couldn't be run on older systems, neither of which they would ever do.
ZeldaDD 4 years ago 4
I can't tell if he's really nervous or really excited :D Maybe a little bit of column A, little bit of column B :P
Tophillious 4 years ago 7
xbmc wii?
vincevl 4 years ago
That would be sweet. I love XBMC.
kopaganda13 4 years ago