I remember seeing this cartoon on the disney channel 2001ish late at night (a year before it gave all its classic shows the boot) with the full ending. I wonder why/how they lost it within a short time? The dvd of this short (cut version) was released just 4 years later in 2005.
Imagine, less than 10 years later Disney made the three little pigs and 14 years later Snow White. The speed with which his studio improved its art is incredible.
When all 4 four lions went into the treehouse looking thing I guess that's what it is I thought for sure she was a gonner and I was like oh no poor alice.
is that the end??? that was high tech annimation for that time. You think if they could figure out how put a human into a cartoon and make cartoons dance on boards and projectors, they could easily figure out how to put sound with it. i loved her little dress did she do other things with acting besides this?
Anyone notice that in the scene where a cartoon mouse on the drawing board jousts with a live cat, the mouse bears more than a passing resemblance to our old friend Mickey Mouse? Maybe ol' Mick was on Walt Disney's mind, in at least a rough draft, a long time before Plane Crazy and Steamboat Willie, and decades before the media empire the little fellow made possible.
@BobWXXI that mouse there is name Mortimer, which was originally create by Iwerks, one of walts' early partners (Mortimer shows up in Fiddlesticks as the fiddling mouse). But disney (after losing rights to oswald) decided to animate a cartoon base on one of his childhood pet, a mouse. He took Iwerks idea, and decided the name didn't fit, thus mickey was born. Not till 1947 till mickey got his voice...he always gave credit to Iwerks in the earlier times for mortimer. :p
This was a very interesting chapter in movie history, the animated cartoon and what Disney did with it. The atmosphere was more along the lines of silicon valley than hollywood it seems to me, with people like walt creating studios in their families garages. A unique oppertunity for people who wanted to get into the entertainment buisness to take advantage of the new technology. Disney & Iwerks remind me a little of Steve Jobs & Wozniak
@bigfisher42 I think I read that the Laugh-O-Gram studio went bankrupt before they could finish. Not that that answers the question of where she would have fallen if it had been completed, but it's the reason we don't find out where she landed.
@veryboredpug : The music was added later. As was standard practice then, when silent films were shown larger theater halls would hire a orchestra to play live music during the screening as well as to produce sound effects in some instances.
@veryboredpug : The music was added later. As was standard practice then, when silent films were shown larger theater halls would hire a orchestra to play live music during the screening as well as to produce sound effects in some instances.
@veryboredpug : The music was added later. As was standard practice then, when silent films were shown larger theater halls would hire a orchestra to play live music during the screening as well as to produce sound effects in some instances.
In Japan, theaters hired actors called benshi who stood on stage and spoke the lines from a script as the audience watched the silent film. It's one of the reasons why Japan was so slow to adopt talkies (the last major silent film was in 1939, ten years after Hollywood had already abandoned silents).
@veryboredpug Because in the silent days, the music was on sheets and played by a live band in the theatre as the film rolled....in smaller theatres you might have all the music played by one person on a piano or organ...sometimes the bands would do primitive sound effects too, such as a drum rimshot to simulate gunfire, for instance
must read this. once u have started there is no turning back. a little 10 year old girl was raped and murderded in 1945. her body was not found until 1947. then a boy last week read this and did not copy and paste this message. the dead girl appeared in his room haunting him and killed him. if you do not copy and paste this onto 10 vidoes in 30 minutes the dead girl will apear in your room tonight and haunt you and kill you
must read this. once u have started there is no turning back. a little 10 year old girl was raped and murderded in 1945. her body was not found until 1947. then a boy last week read this and did not copy and paste this message. the dead girl appeared in his room haunting him and killed him. if you do not copy and paste this onto 10 vidoes in 30 minutes the dead girl will apear in your room tonight and haunt you and kill you. 1 year ago
I hope the Academy remembers Viriginia in tonight's "In Memorium" section at the Oscars on ABC tonight. In her small way, Virginia helped to make many of those jobs at ABC parent company Disney possible.
In its own way, this is such a metaphor for everything Walt did in his life, and beyond it. (And I do NOT understand how anyone in their right might mind, free of the gutter, could call this "disgusting.")
An amazing film for 1923! Sorry to learn about Ms. Davis' death. Her legend lives on in these classic early films by Walt Disney and Ubbe Iwwerks. Great to watch the classics online!
"Alice's Wonderland is a 1923 Walt Disney short silent film, in black and white. Finally, she jumps off a cliff and awakes back in her bed. The end of the film is lost."
Well, it wasn't fully finnished because when Disney was half way done with the animation the Laugh-O-Gram company went bankrupt. Then when he got some money he started to finnish the film, but no one knows the ending.
Innocence is a beautiful !thing..Before there was Annette Funicello,Haley Mills,Lizzie McGuire and Hanna Montana there was Virginia Davis as Alice. Disney and kids have been inseperable ever since!
Sometimes I still wish I can take an escape vacation into the cartoon world.
must read this. once u have started there is no turning back. a little 10 year old girl was raped and murderded in 1945. her body was not found until 1947. then a boy last week read this and did not copy and paste this message. the dead girl appeared in his room haunting him and killed him. if you do not copy and paste this onto 10 vidoes in 30 minutes the dead girl will apear in your room tonight and haunt you and kill you.
No, there is an ending. Walt completed it. It's just cut from this video. You can see the complete version on the "Walt Disney Treasures - Disney Rarities" DVD set.
7:15 HAHAHHAAH RUN, FATASS RUN!!!
email7321 1 month ago
FAKE!!!! trains can't jump.
kingcrimson234 1 month ago
great film.... it's amazing that even back in the 1920's they can already impose real-life people into the cartoon worlds.
HamonLord 3 months ago
She's 5 in 1923.
0YTMan 3 months ago
I remember seeing this cartoon on the disney channel 2001ish late at night (a year before it gave all its classic shows the boot) with the full ending. I wonder why/how they lost it within a short time? The dvd of this short (cut version) was released just 4 years later in 2005.
classicsguy626 4 months ago
what happen to alice at the end?
shaneyseano 4 months ago
Imagine, less than 10 years later Disney made the three little pigs and 14 years later Snow White. The speed with which his studio improved its art is incredible.
bobbobato 5 months ago 5
The repetitive movement animation and general randomness and clutter of the Cartoonland reminds me of old DOS games from the early 1990s.
bobbobato 5 months ago
When all 4 four lions went into the treehouse looking thing I guess that's what it is I thought for sure she was a gonner and I was like oh no poor alice.
TxmxthyJS7868 5 months ago
Because that's the end. She falls and dies.
mjknlr 6 months ago
But I like the Alice's game on iphone more. It is more addictive in my opinion.
stevenjabs 7 months ago
is that the end??? that was high tech annimation for that time. You think if they could figure out how put a human into a cartoon and make cartoons dance on boards and projectors, they could easily figure out how to put sound with it. i loved her little dress did she do other things with acting besides this?
njnproductioninc2011 7 months ago
@njnproductioninc2011 The ending is lost but apparently she falls into her bed and wakes up, that's all
NiamhFrancisPianist 5 months ago
Ahh, the animation that help start it all
Zizumia1 7 months ago
Its sad because they lost the ending of this film... i really want to see the rest!!! Thumbs up if u agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thepieroxmysox 9 months ago
Was the animator in the beginning Walt Disney himself?
mattjnor98 10 months ago
@mattjnor98 yepp:) im doing a biography of him for school and a book talked about this episode:)
thepieroxmysox 9 months ago
@mattjnor98 Yes.
elbethere 7 months ago
walt is sooo young!!!
laurenbliven 1 year ago
I want to learn this whole piano score (:
sowhathomiec 1 year ago
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MissTohruHonda1 1 year ago
that was scary!!
DannyJustiniano 1 year ago
Anyone notice that in the scene where a cartoon mouse on the drawing board jousts with a live cat, the mouse bears more than a passing resemblance to our old friend Mickey Mouse? Maybe ol' Mick was on Walt Disney's mind, in at least a rough draft, a long time before Plane Crazy and Steamboat Willie, and decades before the media empire the little fellow made possible.
BobWXXI 1 year ago
@BobWXXI that mouse there is name Mortimer, which was originally create by Iwerks, one of walts' early partners (Mortimer shows up in Fiddlesticks as the fiddling mouse). But disney (after losing rights to oswald) decided to animate a cartoon base on one of his childhood pet, a mouse. He took Iwerks idea, and decided the name didn't fit, thus mickey was born. Not till 1947 till mickey got his voice...he always gave credit to Iwerks in the earlier times for mortimer. :p
ArckDesign 11 months ago
The lion just now figures out that he can eat the bars of his cage???
Familygirl17 1 year ago
That woman playing Alice's mother was Virginia's real mother.
Familygirl17 1 year ago
Why didn't Walt ever finish this?
Familygirl17 1 year ago
This was a very interesting chapter in movie history, the animated cartoon and what Disney did with it. The atmosphere was more along the lines of silicon valley than hollywood it seems to me, with people like walt creating studios in their families garages. A unique oppertunity for people who wanted to get into the entertainment buisness to take advantage of the new technology. Disney & Iwerks remind me a little of Steve Jobs & Wozniak
benjaminBarr 1 year ago
disappointed by the end! Where does she fall?! Am i alone asking myself this question?
bigfisher42 1 year ago
@bigfisher42: This is an incomplete video. In the end that wasn't included in this video, Alice wakes up and realizes that she was just dreaming.
firearrow2000 1 year ago
@bigfisher42 I think I read that the Laugh-O-Gram studio went bankrupt before they could finish. Not that that answers the question of where she would have fallen if it had been completed, but it's the reason we don't find out where she landed.
411314 1 year ago
@bigfisher42 The studio ran out of money before they could complete this short. There IS no ending to this :P
KaliumMusic 1 year ago
I'm sure this is a stupid question, but how come back in the time of silent films they could put music to them but not voices? ò.ô
veryboredpug 1 year ago
@veryboredpug, I think it had something to do with not being able synchronize the sound to the film.
mastermalone 1 year ago
@veryboredpug : The music was added later. As was standard practice then, when silent films were shown larger theater halls would hire a orchestra to play live music during the screening as well as to produce sound effects in some instances.
hotblackmetalchick66 1 year ago
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@veryboredpug : The music was added later. As was standard practice then, when silent films were shown larger theater halls would hire a orchestra to play live music during the screening as well as to produce sound effects in some instances.
hotblackmetalchick66 1 year ago
@veryboredpug : The music was added later. As was standard practice then, when silent films were shown larger theater halls would hire a orchestra to play live music during the screening as well as to produce sound effects in some instances.
hotblackmetalchick66 1 year ago
@hotblackmetalchick66 but couldnt they have just done voiceovers as well? :s
veryboredpug 1 year ago
@veryboredpug
In Japan, theaters hired actors called benshi who stood on stage and spoke the lines from a script as the audience watched the silent film. It's one of the reasons why Japan was so slow to adopt talkies (the last major silent film was in 1939, ten years after Hollywood had already abandoned silents).
newguy90 1 year ago
@veryboredpug Because in the silent days, the music was on sheets and played by a live band in the theatre as the film rolled....in smaller theatres you might have all the music played by one person on a piano or organ...sometimes the bands would do primitive sound effects too, such as a drum rimshot to simulate gunfire, for instance
Shoknifeman 1 year ago
hahaha the white cat beat the black cat in a fight :D
AllEpicAllDay 1 year ago 2
this looks so familiar, like i've seen it before. but i really don't think i have. have snippets been featured in other movies or commercials?
xxxjustine 1 year ago
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must read this. once u have started there is no turning back. a little 10 year old girl was raped and murderded in 1945. her body was not found until 1947. then a boy last week read this and did not copy and paste this message. the dead girl appeared in his room haunting him and killed him. if you do not copy and paste this onto 10 vidoes in 30 minutes the dead girl will apear in your room tonight and haunt you and kill you
Ruldolphmaker 1 year ago
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must read this. once u have started there is no turning back. a little 10 year old girl was raped and murderded in 1945. her body was not found until 1947. then a boy last week read this and did not copy and paste this message. the dead girl appeared in his room haunting him and killed him. if you do not copy and paste this onto 10 vidoes in 30 minutes the dead girl will apear in your room tonight and haunt you and kill you. 1 year ago
Ruldolphmaker 1 year ago
can i just say that this is beautiful? the little girl is majorly cute.
lordfumblesquid 1 year ago 2
I hope the Academy remembers Viriginia in tonight's "In Memorium" section at the Oscars on ABC tonight. In her small way, Virginia helped to make many of those jobs at ABC parent company Disney possible.
CrummyCurtis 1 year ago
heh heh I love this! 5 stars!!
Sakura629 1 year ago
What a sweetheart! She was so cute when she was dancing. It's a shame she passed away.
ratterchan 1 year ago
Very special for its time and must of influence such films as 'Who Framed Roger Rabbit' and 'Space Jam'
ZEPTARtheBLOB 1 year ago
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Hmmm, perhaps Walt and Lewis Carroll had more in common than previously thought... and I mean that in the worst possible way.
secession2020 2 years ago
That film was so good. The part where the lions chase her made me laugh.
Recylopse 2 years ago
Why was the music changed for the version on the Disney Rarities DVD?
GameStation3 2 years ago
The Studio sure likes to see their cartoons fight.
WWEChampion16 2 years ago
Yay Alice!
gypsies0 2 years ago
In its own way, this is such a metaphor for everything Walt did in his life, and beyond it. (And I do NOT understand how anyone in their right might mind, free of the gutter, could call this "disgusting.")
229095 2 years ago
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Disgusting !
Easydollars 2 years ago
This is the cut version. It's missing the scene at the end where she wakes up and realises it was all a dream.
CDCB2 2 years ago 2
Tell me if I am crazy, but does the music from 6:15 to 6:28 sound familiar?
nostalgiajunkie70 2 years ago
It sounds a tiny bit like "Chim Chim Cherree" from Mary Poppins.
littlematty1989 2 years ago
This series of animated shorts was Walt Disney's first success; years before Mickey Mouse.
MistrMyke 2 years ago
An amazing film for 1923! Sorry to learn about Ms. Davis' death. Her legend lives on in these classic early films by Walt Disney and Ubbe Iwwerks. Great to watch the classics online!
cybergirl8 2 years ago 7
She was a very pretty little girl. It's interesting to see the pioneers of the film industry. May she rest in peace .
jmfcritter 2 years ago 5
Virginia Davis passed away August 15, 2009...RIP Alice...
jsjunot 2 years ago 36
Walt Disney was featured in this one!
LFirstbasema 2 years ago 2
Virginia Davis was so adorable!
mimilala89 2 years ago 2
there is walt disney
Disneygreatestsongs 2 years ago
This is not a dream,
it´s a nightmare when
all end into a falling.
"Alice's Wonderland is a 1923 Walt Disney short silent film, in black and white. Finally, she jumps off a cliff and awakes back in her bed. The end of the film is lost."
Virginia Davis as Alice.
JohnnyHGT 2 years ago
Well, it wasn't fully finnished because when Disney was half way done with the animation the Laugh-O-Gram company went bankrupt. Then when he got some money he started to finnish the film, but no one knows the ending.
Disneygreatestsongs 2 years ago
Walt moved to California and in 1923, based upon this film, he sold a series of 13 films to a New York distributor.
MistrMyke 2 years ago
Innocence is a beautiful !thing..Before there was Annette Funicello,Haley Mills,Lizzie McGuire and Hanna Montana there was Virginia Davis as Alice. Disney and kids have been inseperable ever since!
Sometimes I still wish I can take an escape vacation into the cartoon world.
Limp73 2 years ago 4
It's amazing what you can find on the internet,
thanks so much for posting this :]
XrainbowXcarnage 2 years ago 3
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walt touches alice weird
then points to danger
what is this little girl doing on her own with these men?
ugggggg this is horrible
HeweHaarlemmer 3 years ago
Oh shhh. God forbid affection toward children. What a sad, cynical world it has become...
andrewd01 2 years ago 5
omg walt was HOTT SEXXII YUMMY!!! ... when he was alive
ch33t0sss 3 years ago 3
Wow! You guys rock! I can't believe I found this gem so easily... Thanks for posting this!!!!!
rickymolotov 3 years ago
that cat on the desk is dead by now
wanghobb 3 years ago
yeah, but it was able to be captured on film, though
danielchance 3 years ago
HAHA so is the little girl.
ch33t0sss 3 years ago
no she isn't, Virginia is 90 years old, and last month I got a letter from her
danielchance 3 years ago
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must read this. once u have started there is no turning back. a little 10 year old girl was raped and murderded in 1945. her body was not found until 1947. then a boy last week read this and did not copy and paste this message. the dead girl appeared in his room haunting him and killed him. if you do not copy and paste this onto 10 vidoes in 30 minutes the dead girl will apear in your room tonight and haunt you and kill you.
sauldavidwilliams 3 years ago
saul? didn't expect you to comment on this, lol
But you do know that stuff is stupid and does not really work...
danielchance 3 years ago
of course i do, but id rather this chain wudnt die on me
and anyways i like silent ilms, if theyve gt the music on it other wise im not interested
sauldavidwilliams 3 years ago
i think the ending is missing. it just ends too abruptly.
duffster17 3 years ago
It ends abruptly as Walt Disney ran out of money before this could be finished.
canonet17 3 years ago 3
No, there is an ending. Walt completed it. It's just cut from this video. You can see the complete version on the "Walt Disney Treasures - Disney Rarities" DVD set.
CDCB2 2 years ago 2
@CDCB2 All the sourced I've read say it was uncompleted back when it was first released. Walt maybe back and finished it later, perhaps? *shrug*
KaliumMusic 1 year ago
I've been looking for this for ages! Thanks for uploading this. I got Virginia's autograph, and I can finally see her first film!
danielchance 3 years ago 20
Excellent drama and humor. Good show!
KingReef777 3 years ago 4
I LOVE THIS!!!
jacobleereed 3 years ago 4
How do people not know of this! This is awesome!
Brettmacmillan 3 years ago 6