Look up John Judge who believes this was a CIA MK Ultra experiment. 400 bodies originally found reported by the Washington Post the very next day. 700 people ran into the jungle. US Arms Forces were brought in and line the jungle with guns. They killed the rest. This was a cover up operation drug experiments so sad. READ before you believe what the media feeds you. We love the children may they RIP. So sad.
terrykozak its people like you bitter unloving.he might have been a bad man.but thinking like oh that bastartd he needs a special room to tourture him in for eternity.fuck you!!!!!its thinking like that keeps hate and evil going.you obviously what you want is for evil to suffer eternaley.god dont allow tourture.not even for evill he will educate it for peace if not excepted evil willl be destroyed no more problem and no more torture,please be good to yourself and family.
i have been watching and reading about Jim Jones and his cult and I have 2 conclusions. First of all, people cannot differentiate between a religion and a cult! Second of all, people who follow a cult are brain washed by their leader and forced to do horrible things. So, to the lady talking at 2:47, not everyone is weak enough to sit there and listen to an insane crazy bullying idiot like Jim Jones! A lot of people who were vulnerable followed him. And not everyone is weak and vulnerable!
@TheHoliday555 I read your post and would like to say that first, Jonestown residents and the People's Temple were not a church organization. It had nothing at all to do with religion. The church was a guise, a misrepresentation of what it really was all about. It was a political movement.
@vperry999 Secondly, most people were there for the cause, to change the world and stand up against injustice. Third, they were mostly there for themselves and each other. Most did not even listen to Jones and his crap.
While I've transcribed many of the tapes from Jonestown, I can honestly state that I hate the man. Sitting at the tape machine, I can hear his voice, his garbage that he spewed and know that I truly dislike him. However, I also sit listening with the gift of hindsight.
@vperry999 Sitting with the gift of hindsight, like all of us have, is a wonderful thing - a great way to judge what we *think* we would have, could have or should have done. It's a bit different when you are a part of that era, when the culture was against blacks, down on the elderly, sexism was still alive and well. Putting up with the way society treated most of them, I might have been so depressed that I may have joined as well. After meeting the survivors, seeing how sweet, kind and
@vperry999 wonderful they are - I probably would have joined. In the beginning, Jones spoke of things in a way that sounded a lot like Martin Luther King Jr. He pressed people to believe in themselves, society and the way things could be. He stood for those who were put behind bars by society, merely because their skin color was different. He fed the hungry. He took in animals that the rest of society dumped on their doorstep. Now while I hate the murdering maniac, at that time, it would
@vperry999 have been a bit more understandable to be searching for something like People's Temple, to gain the support they needed during turbulent times. While this country is still racist, we aren't nearly as bad as we used to be in terms of being unaware of how silly it really is to judge someone of a different skin color. However, we do still judge. Apparently so - we tend to judge those that we don't understand, such as the people of People's Temple.
@thenubinator, 500 years??? Where on earth do you get this number?the new testament was written in the first century. There are entire copies still extant from before 500 AD.
@archie977 whats your point? you think this ground breaking news!fuck lady talk about something that matternot just stupid little things that everyone knows,miss smarty. oh thats right your a guy archie.about the most racial show ever on national t.v
@archie977 Armed forces tend to brainwash...train people to be numb to killing. Our politicians who assume people will believe whatever they tell them. And the list goes on and on and on and on...
@archie977 Ignorance? I would say more an issue of being tricked into believing. The people of People's Temple are the most intelligent folks I have ever met in my life. In fact, that's the first thing people say when meeting them is, "wow, I've never met such an intelligent bunch. That's the first thing that stood out to me." I don't think ignorance is the correct word.
Mayor Moscone and Councilman Harvey Milk apparently saw nothing wrong about Jim Jones.They had a blind spot towards clergymen who advocated "liberation theology" and it was the seventies. Milk -being gay was more suspicious about mainline establishment churches.
I was a child when this occurred. I remembered most people in Guyana knew something was seriously wrong in that place.There were constant leaked appeals for help...all in vain...
@fastfoodclowns The connection between the CIA and Jim Jones from the internet:"the most mysterious connection that Jim Jones had was his childhood friend, Dan Mitrione. Mitrione later became Chief of the Richmond PD... Mitrione was later was recruited into the CIA, under State Department cover, in May of 1960, and was trained in counter-insurgency and torture techniques. Coincidentally, Mitrione had traveled to Brazil as an OPS adviser at the U.S. Consulate not long before Jones had arrived.
Jim Jones was a socialist wierdo with credentials. He had letters of endorsement form no less than President Jimmy Carter when he sought approval to build his "utopia" in Guiana.
@Skytroop - yes, just like the Rev. Sun Moon is a conservative Republican weirdo. Do you know who he is? He's the leader of the Unification Church. He says he is Jesus Christ. He gives loads of money to the Republican Party and uses his newspaper, The Washington Times, to publish news stories favorable to the right wingers of the Republican Party. His followers are known as "Moonies". That's who the Repukes keep company with. Nice people. Not.
Jesus says in Matthew 24 verses 5 & 6; Mark 13 verses 5 & 6; and Luke 21 verse 8; take heed that no man decieve ye: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ and shall decieve many.
for all you poor misguided people that show pity and dont know the truth or havent bothered to do any research please watch /watch?v=A1F9njSndbM this might just change your mind about how "innocent and niaive" they really were.
let this be a lesson to ALL...in the name of jehovah / jesus of whatever the tenet of theism is, this is a wake up call...
this is what happens when CULT leaders interpret the bible that leads to madness. you see, the feeble minded is not allowed to ask critical questions that might bring attention to the weak foundationalism of a belief system (like the Jehovah witnesses).
CULT leaders hate when people use their brain. they hate logic / ration...
I agree with you up until the application of former to the word communist.
Some of the paper trails seem to suggest that Jones had communist friends in high places and was being genuine when he told his followers that the Soviet Union was a possible out if things got heavy in Guyana eg. a hostile military takeover or similar. I think that Jones was keen on the Communist hierarchy models that current regimes practiced, hierarchies that aren't found in philosophical socialism.
@thegirl44 What do you mean by the Communist heirarchy models? Jones sometimes wanted his followers to call him Lenin until he decided that they call him "Dad."
You kinda answer what I mean in this comment, In true socialism all are equal in the Communist hierarchy models that we've seen through history there has always been a "Lenin" or a "Dad", someone elevated above the common man although nothing in Marxist socialism supports the idea.
@ApollonianKing Jones was to blame for a lot of it, but not all. Many of those people were there of their own volition and willingly killed them self because the man said too.
I refuse to believe that those people wanted to die. If you watch the footage of them, they were extremely enthusiastic and struggled to survive in a hostile world. Why would they suddenly stop being so charismatic and all lay down and die? It's incomprehensible.
Read "Seductive Poison" by former church member Deborah Layton. The members were coerced into drinking the cyanide and Jones used the church as a front for an ultra Marxist agenda. When he lived in Bay area he got support for his activities from mayor Moscone and Councilman Harvey Milk.
in my opinion they did an excellent thing by killing themselves, they drastically enhanced the average rate of intelligence of the planet...every religious fanatic shall follow their sample!!!
@tappo64 - That's a very evil thing to say. You feel so comfortable saying that on the internet. But the internet is not as annoymous as you might think. Cheers.
@TreblePop If you give me your personal address I can tell you straight in the face, and ifyou live close to me I can visit you and tell you straight in the face if this could make you fell better
@tappo64 - you're precisely the sort of person I'd want to avoid. In fact, you seem like quite a scarey freak to me. The fact that you want my address is slightly disturbing. Find someone else to obsess over.
This is what happened when you don't think for yourself and get caught up in someone with power. They were murdered, what a sad story. It can also be a lesson.
@22reTOYOTA That's not a mass suicide is it? That's a lunatic ordering the deaths of people in the name of himself. Communism has nothing to do with that, and to be frank the Soviet Union wasn't even Communist DUE to that, among many other things.
@nicck Jones was an atheist Communist. So why would he and his fanatical followers want to commit suicide believing that they'd meet each other in the next life? Communists and atheists don't believe in an afterlife.
this is sad that damn it Jim jones when i see this i just want to cry this is so fucking sad...............i hope this never happens again goddamit.........this is sad.........
Ummm..in all due respects..When you see & hear Mr Carter talk,you have to consider the source..He was there,Jim Jones literally ordered his wife & son to die & for him to not die,but live.Both things happened as ordered & he's had to live in the aftermath of that awful fact ever since.
@leolux10 WOW, you are the reason that people like me lose all hope in fundamentalist religion. It's your actions that make a difference in the world that count, and it shouldn't matter if there is a reward at the end. To say that innocent children go to hell is selfish, insensitive, and asinine.
@thenubinator Your point is? You can lose hope in LIFE, for all I care. What I've stated is fact, in accordance to the Bible. Try reading it some time. A statement doesn't have to sound good to your ears, to be true. Your whole response is asinine. Not mine. Because you refer to something I never even stated. o_O A reward? God doesn't just let the "nice people" into Heaven. You must accept him as you Lord and savior. Upon doing this, you acknowledge Him as the Holy Christ, and seek forgiveness.
By the way. I never meant to make light of this unfortunate incident. This is purely tragic. And I feel for them just as anyone else would. I just interjected a religious fact. For questionable people like you: do you really think that only evil people enter hell? Hell is the home to MANY people like you and I. Babies included. Remember. None are born righteous. We are ALL born sinners. The ONLY path to righteousness is through Jesus Christ. That's if you even believe in it. If not? Just bypass.
@leolux10 First of all, "religious fact" is an oxymoron, a truly sincere religious person is able to take their beliefs on faith, not resort to the textbook "It's true because it's in the bible" BS. Next, don't pull the "read the bible" line on me, I've gone through 4 years of religious high school and taken more than my share of bible classes. Looking at the history behind it, nobody who wrote the bible knew Jesus. The first gospel, Mark, wasn't written until about 500 years after he died.
@thenubinator The reason I say that your belief is selfish and asinine is that you put yourself above other people simply because of what you believe. If you've really taken the time to reflect and examine your religion and the world, you will begin to see that nothing, no matter how concrete it may seem, is absolute truth or fact. All we know is known empirically, some hypothesis stand up empirically throughout time, so we refer to them as "fact". Other things must be taken solely on faith.
@thenubinator Because there is no way to test them empirically. This doesn't mean that either is more "true", they are simply different ways of believing. The difference is that no argument about the world can be made on the grounds of faith, simply because of its nature of being completely personal and non empirical. (e.g. Your religious beliefs are not mine because that is faith, but we both believe in gravity because they can be tested.)
@thenubinator The point I come to is that you CAN NOT judge that other people are going to, or are in heaven/hell because the belief that you have in heaven/hell is just that, your own personal belief (read, non empirical faith). If you want to know, I have faith (again, there is no purely empirical way to prove it) in neither heaven nor hell, simply because you rarely see absolute dichotomies in nature.
@thenubinator Ultimately, I live under the guide of 2 ideas, 1 empirical "fact", and 1 belief.
1. The impermanence of all things
2. A belief in the fundamental good at the root of human nature (i.e. I don't believe that people need god to "save them", that we are all born unique and innocent and have the innate ability to make the the lives of others better)
i can see how mass hysteria can cause an event like this. we are all programmed from birth. so all you know is what you've been taught. that is your truth. and when it seems right, in the immediate present (now) you kinda think yeah this is it. most of the ppl there, so it seems from the video were not abused or treated bad. only a few witnessed his "dark" nature. so i can see why that lasted for how long it did. by the time some ppl realized what was going on, they were neck deep in the sh*t.
Seriously they think people would believe that they all willingly killed themself by taking poison. Hell no o__O That was just all pointless and unneeded. I cannot believe this D: That is horrible.
Yes,it is & yes it was.But the sad uncomfortable conclusion is,they all praticed doing this many times b4 they went through with it,& they all knew what the consequences would be....4 the children & everyone else.Terrible.
Actually,they had 'white nights' rehearsals many times,and rehearsed drinking poison on more than one occasion. Only two people ran that we know of,Odell Rhodes & Stanly Clayton.
war only proves that humans are still in the animal state
archie977 1 month ago
in my opinion the only logical conclusion to religion is jonestown
archie977 1 month ago
Look up John Judge who believes this was a CIA MK Ultra experiment. 400 bodies originally found reported by the Washington Post the very next day. 700 people ran into the jungle. US Arms Forces were brought in and line the jungle with guns. They killed the rest. This was a cover up operation drug experiments so sad. READ before you believe what the media feeds you. We love the children may they RIP. So sad.
ginoforever2011 3 months ago
terrykozak its people like you bitter unloving.he might have been a bad man.but thinking like oh that bastartd he needs a special room to tourture him in for eternity.fuck you!!!!!its thinking like that keeps hate and evil going.you obviously what you want is for evil to suffer eternaley.god dont allow tourture.not even for evill he will educate it for peace if not excepted evil willl be destroyed no more problem and no more torture,please be good to yourself and family.
jimjosh71 5 months ago
i have been watching and reading about Jim Jones and his cult and I have 2 conclusions. First of all, people cannot differentiate between a religion and a cult! Second of all, people who follow a cult are brain washed by their leader and forced to do horrible things. So, to the lady talking at 2:47, not everyone is weak enough to sit there and listen to an insane crazy bullying idiot like Jim Jones! A lot of people who were vulnerable followed him. And not everyone is weak and vulnerable!
TheHoliday555 7 months ago
@TheHoliday555 I read your post and would like to say that first, Jonestown residents and the People's Temple were not a church organization. It had nothing at all to do with religion. The church was a guise, a misrepresentation of what it really was all about. It was a political movement.
vperry999 1 month ago
@vperry999 Secondly, most people were there for the cause, to change the world and stand up against injustice. Third, they were mostly there for themselves and each other. Most did not even listen to Jones and his crap.
While I've transcribed many of the tapes from Jonestown, I can honestly state that I hate the man. Sitting at the tape machine, I can hear his voice, his garbage that he spewed and know that I truly dislike him. However, I also sit listening with the gift of hindsight.
vperry999 1 month ago
@vperry999 Sitting with the gift of hindsight, like all of us have, is a wonderful thing - a great way to judge what we *think* we would have, could have or should have done. It's a bit different when you are a part of that era, when the culture was against blacks, down on the elderly, sexism was still alive and well. Putting up with the way society treated most of them, I might have been so depressed that I may have joined as well. After meeting the survivors, seeing how sweet, kind and
vperry999 1 month ago
@vperry999 wonderful they are - I probably would have joined. In the beginning, Jones spoke of things in a way that sounded a lot like Martin Luther King Jr. He pressed people to believe in themselves, society and the way things could be. He stood for those who were put behind bars by society, merely because their skin color was different. He fed the hungry. He took in animals that the rest of society dumped on their doorstep. Now while I hate the murdering maniac, at that time, it would
vperry999 1 month ago
@vperry999 have been a bit more understandable to be searching for something like People's Temple, to gain the support they needed during turbulent times. While this country is still racist, we aren't nearly as bad as we used to be in terms of being unaware of how silly it really is to judge someone of a different skin color. However, we do still judge. Apparently so - we tend to judge those that we don't understand, such as the people of People's Temple.
vperry999 1 month ago
@thenubinator, 500 years??? Where on earth do you get this number?the new testament was written in the first century. There are entire copies still extant from before 500 AD.
lipspork 8 months ago
we must never forget the price of ignorance.and comercials is mind control.
archie977 9 months ago
@archie977 whats your point? you think this ground breaking news!fuck lady talk about something that matternot just stupid little things that everyone knows,miss smarty. oh thats right your a guy archie.about the most racial show ever on national t.v
jimjosh71 5 months ago
@archie977 Armed forces tend to brainwash...train people to be numb to killing. Our politicians who assume people will believe whatever they tell them. And the list goes on and on and on and on...
vperry999 1 month ago
we must never forget the price of ignorance.
archie977 9 months ago
@archie977 Ignorance? I would say more an issue of being tricked into believing. The people of People's Temple are the most intelligent folks I have ever met in my life. In fact, that's the first thing people say when meeting them is, "wow, I've never met such an intelligent bunch. That's the first thing that stood out to me." I don't think ignorance is the correct word.
vperry999 1 month ago
Fuck you Jim Jones!! I hope you burn in hell for all eternity!!!
NickyVendetta 9 months ago
The ones who escaped where extreamly lucky, first of all the jungle of Guyana is filled up with deadly animals like snakes and pomar etc.
Thetrutv 11 months ago 3
The world really changed because of this hysterical, did´nt it?? What a waste.....
Pukkie11000 11 months ago
Is there more of this docu.?
67nairb 1 year ago
Mayor Moscone and Councilman Harvey Milk apparently saw nothing wrong about Jim Jones.They had a blind spot towards clergymen who advocated "liberation theology" and it was the seventies. Milk -being gay was more suspicious about mainline establishment churches.
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago
@IanHunedoara8 Black liberation theology is what Rev. Jeremiah Wright preached.
67nairb 1 year ago
I was a child when this occurred. I remembered most people in Guyana knew something was seriously wrong in that place.There were constant leaked appeals for help...all in vain...
mysweetcherie 1 year ago
It was a CIA mind control experiment made to look like a religious cult gone haywire.
fastfoodclowns 1 year ago
@fastfoodclowns The connection between the CIA and Jim Jones from the internet:"the most mysterious connection that Jim Jones had was his childhood friend, Dan Mitrione. Mitrione later became Chief of the Richmond PD... Mitrione was later was recruited into the CIA, under State Department cover, in May of 1960, and was trained in counter-insurgency and torture techniques. Coincidentally, Mitrione had traveled to Brazil as an OPS adviser at the U.S. Consulate not long before Jones had arrived.
Deguello321 1 year ago
Jim Jones was a socialist wierdo with credentials. He had letters of endorsement form no less than President Jimmy Carter when he sought approval to build his "utopia" in Guiana.
Skytroop 1 year ago
@Skytroop - yes, just like the Rev. Sun Moon is a conservative Republican weirdo. Do you know who he is? He's the leader of the Unification Church. He says he is Jesus Christ. He gives loads of money to the Republican Party and uses his newspaper, The Washington Times, to publish news stories favorable to the right wingers of the Republican Party. His followers are known as "Moonies". That's who the Repukes keep company with. Nice people. Not.
MrRedFredSaid 1 year ago
@Skytroop Carter's wife Rosalyn was invited to visit Jones' Peoples Temple in San Farncisco in 1976 when her husband was running for president.
67nairb 1 year ago
Jesus says in Matthew 24 verses 5 & 6; Mark 13 verses 5 & 6; and Luke 21 verse 8; take heed that no man decieve ye: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ and shall decieve many.
Flxiblemetro 1 year ago
for all you poor misguided people that show pity and dont know the truth or havent bothered to do any research please watch /watch?v=A1F9njSndbM this might just change your mind about how "innocent and niaive" they really were.
industwetrustify 1 year ago
the politicians that helped this fraud are dead,moscone one of them,killed by his sins
anybody knows that jones was a voter fraud,and help moscone to win,they are the principal giulties here,the polotics
andyc494 1 year ago
i pity the victims and their families...
let this be a lesson to ALL...in the name of jehovah / jesus of whatever the tenet of theism is, this is a wake up call...
this is what happens when CULT leaders interpret the bible that leads to madness. you see, the feeble minded is not allowed to ask critical questions that might bring attention to the weak foundationalism of a belief system (like the Jehovah witnesses).
CULT leaders hate when people use their brain. they hate logic / ration...
afterray 1 year ago
@afterray
Jones didn't interpret the bible in any way, he threw it to the floor and stomped on it.
thegirl44 1 year ago
@thegirl44 the only good thing he did then
SuperTiredofitall 1 year ago
@SuperTiredofitall
There's nothing wrong with the bible, itself, it's the dipshit that try to wield power or influence over others with it that are the problem.
thegirl44 1 year ago
@thegirl44 He was atheist in reality as well as a socialist and former Communist.
67nairb 1 year ago
@67nairb
I agree with you up until the application of former to the word communist.
Some of the paper trails seem to suggest that Jones had communist friends in high places and was being genuine when he told his followers that the Soviet Union was a possible out if things got heavy in Guyana eg. a hostile military takeover or similar. I think that Jones was keen on the Communist hierarchy models that current regimes practiced, hierarchies that aren't found in philosophical socialism.
thegirl44 1 year ago
@thegirl44 What do you mean by the Communist heirarchy models? Jones sometimes wanted his followers to call him Lenin until he decided that they call him "Dad."
67nairb 1 year ago
@67nairb
You kinda answer what I mean in this comment, In true socialism all are equal in the Communist hierarchy models that we've seen through history there has always been a "Lenin" or a "Dad", someone elevated above the common man although nothing in Marxist socialism supports the idea.
thegirl44 1 year ago
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@afterray Just Hitler & his Nazi thugs.
67nairb 1 year ago
tappo64 needs prayer and I agree not a nice thing to say at all.
linaeable 1 year ago
Jones was totally to blame.
ApollonianKing 1 year ago
@ApollonianKing Jones was to blame for a lot of it, but not all. Many of those people were there of their own volition and willingly killed them self because the man said too.
stfunoobomghax 1 year ago
@stfunoobomghax
I refuse to believe that those people wanted to die. If you watch the footage of them, they were extremely enthusiastic and struggled to survive in a hostile world. Why would they suddenly stop being so charismatic and all lay down and die? It's incomprehensible.
ApollonianKing 1 year ago
@ApollonianKing religious fanatisicm for u! what is incomprehensible is that people fall for religion AT ALL!
SuperTiredofitall 1 year ago
oh my god this is really sad
RzVids 1 year ago
There were few letters to the soviet ambassador with a request for migration to the USSR
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Also soviet ambassador Timofeev was in Jonestown few times. Why there is no information about it in the official version??
A lot of bodies had gunshot wounds, it was caused by cyanide?
123bebebe 1 year ago
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There were few letters to the soviet ambassador with a request for migration to the USSR
nsk. rksm. ru/
UserFiles/
file/
Letter_to_ambassador1.JPG
Also soviet ambassador Timofeev was in Jonestown few times. Why there is no information about it in the official version??
A lot of bodies had gunshot wounds, it was caused by cyanide?
123bebebe 1 year ago
@wethepeople I was responding to the comment above mine that said the victims are going to hell
lunacisland 1 year ago
its so sad that they were forced to drink the cyanide
WeThePeopleRleaders 1 year ago
Remember this formula: BRAINWASHING = hypnosis (manipulation of the unconscious and conscious mind) + intimidation + caring ↔ MANIPULATION.
globe255 1 year ago
Read "Seductive Poison" by former church member Deborah Layton. The members were coerced into drinking the cyanide and Jones used the church as a front for an ultra Marxist agenda. When he lived in Bay area he got support for his activities from mayor Moscone and Councilman Harvey Milk.
IanHunedoara8 1 year ago
@IanHunedoara8 Milk I heard was openly gay and was killed by a homophobic gunmen days after the massacre at Jonestown.
67nairb 1 year ago
Can you only imagine, your wife , husband, child being taken from you to die.
amyntut 1 year ago
GO TO HELL JIM!
Sonic222333 1 year ago
in my opinion they did an excellent thing by killing themselves, they drastically enhanced the average rate of intelligence of the planet...every religious fanatic shall follow their sample!!!
tappo64 1 year ago
@tappo64 - That's a very evil thing to say. You feel so comfortable saying that on the internet. But the internet is not as annoymous as you might think. Cheers.
TreblePop 1 year ago
@TreblePop If you give me your personal address I can tell you straight in the face, and ifyou live close to me I can visit you and tell you straight in the face if this could make you fell better
tappo64 1 year ago
@tappo64 - you're precisely the sort of person I'd want to avoid. In fact, you seem like quite a scarey freak to me. The fact that you want my address is slightly disturbing. Find someone else to obsess over.
TreblePop 1 year ago
and people say never me but when someone is offering peace, love, family and all those things he was offering, weak people fall for that.
GeorgiaPeach87 1 year ago
This is what happened when you don't think for yourself and get caught up in someone with power. They were murdered, what a sad story. It can also be a lesson.
GeorgiaPeach87 1 year ago
Liberalism at it's finest.
abjeldanes 1 year ago
Don't flatter yourself. That's not liberalism...that's lunacy. Did you see a Soviet mass suicide during the collapse?
nicck 1 year ago
@nicck No,Stalin took care of 7,000,000 people. I figure that was enough in the name of communism and paranoia.
22reTOYOTA 1 year ago
@22reTOYOTA That's not a mass suicide is it? That's a lunatic ordering the deaths of people in the name of himself. Communism has nothing to do with that, and to be frank the Soviet Union wasn't even Communist DUE to that, among many other things.
nicck 1 year ago
@nicck It was pretty communist alright.
67nairb 1 year ago
@nicck Stalin's form of Communism could be referred to as "Red Fascism."
67nairb 1 year ago
@22reTOYOTA Try 20,000,000 people.
67nairb 1 year ago
@67nairb That makes it even better.
22reTOYOTA 1 year ago
@nicck Jones was an atheist Communist. So why would he and his fanatical followers want to commit suicide believing that they'd meet each other in the next life? Communists and atheists don't believe in an afterlife.
67nairb 1 year ago
This was just on Oprah.
barnesfam 1 year ago
jones got mad cause someone wanted to leave the temple so he told everyone that this world sux and they should die. He ORDERED THEM TO DIE!
CAPSrCHAMPS 2 years ago
that would be 1:41
Carbine1au 2 years ago
nice ass at 1:40
octaves4 2 years ago
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dumbass nigs
octaves4 2 years ago
this is sad that damn it Jim jones when i see this i just want to cry this is so fucking sad...............i hope this never happens again goddamit.........this is sad.........
elitecrank617 2 years ago
It did happen again. Heaven's Gate Cult...... Thankfully not as many people died.
frankthespank 2 years ago
obama and jones should never be put into the same category
MegaGurlicious 2 years ago 4
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Kind of reminds me of Obama supporters.
seka1986 2 years ago
This was NOT suicide it was mass murder. Listen to the guy that was a forner member. It really seems like he knows that its was muder.
TheBrainstorm9703 2 years ago 2
Ummm..in all due respects..When you see & hear Mr Carter talk,you have to consider the source..He was there,Jim Jones literally ordered his wife & son to die & for him to not die,but live.Both things happened as ordered & he's had to live in the aftermath of that awful fact ever since.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
i wonder if that term "dont drink the kool-aid" came from this....so sad....
xXVanillaBlueXx 2 years ago
@ xXVanillaBlueXx -yes it did.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
da bastard got little kids to kill themselves fuckin dick hope hes in hell.
JordoF6 2 years ago
he is
44diamondsymone 1 year ago
Is that voice over freaking Keith Olbermann???? It sound's just like him.
jbhdva 2 years ago
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I wish Keith Olberdork was one of them
tomthefunky 2 years ago
yup....I think it's Olbermann. hehe
MrsSarb 2 years ago 2
The person who narrated this program is Lester Holt, not Keith Olbermann
peabody66 2 years ago
I hope that the son of a bitch Jim Jones has a special room in Hell for the evil he ordered these people to endure in their last moments.
terrykozak 3 years ago 8
When are they going to post the whole show online?
sk9utube 3 years ago
Yeah, I'm sure the 300 children are in hell along with Jim Jones.
What a shameful comment. Those people were murdered
lunacisland 3 years ago 30
@lunacisland who says these ppl went to hell? including the kids-wtf?
WeThePeopleRleaders 1 year ago
@lunacisland Murdered or not, they reside in hell, unless they were saved.
leolux10 1 year ago
@leolux10 WOW, you are the reason that people like me lose all hope in fundamentalist religion. It's your actions that make a difference in the world that count, and it shouldn't matter if there is a reward at the end. To say that innocent children go to hell is selfish, insensitive, and asinine.
thenubinator 1 year ago
@thenubinator Your point is? You can lose hope in LIFE, for all I care. What I've stated is fact, in accordance to the Bible. Try reading it some time. A statement doesn't have to sound good to your ears, to be true. Your whole response is asinine. Not mine. Because you refer to something I never even stated. o_O A reward? God doesn't just let the "nice people" into Heaven. You must accept him as you Lord and savior. Upon doing this, you acknowledge Him as the Holy Christ, and seek forgiveness.
leolux10 1 year ago
By the way. I never meant to make light of this unfortunate incident. This is purely tragic. And I feel for them just as anyone else would. I just interjected a religious fact. For questionable people like you: do you really think that only evil people enter hell? Hell is the home to MANY people like you and I. Babies included. Remember. None are born righteous. We are ALL born sinners. The ONLY path to righteousness is through Jesus Christ. That's if you even believe in it. If not? Just bypass.
leolux10 1 year ago
@leolux10 First of all, "religious fact" is an oxymoron, a truly sincere religious person is able to take their beliefs on faith, not resort to the textbook "It's true because it's in the bible" BS. Next, don't pull the "read the bible" line on me, I've gone through 4 years of religious high school and taken more than my share of bible classes. Looking at the history behind it, nobody who wrote the bible knew Jesus. The first gospel, Mark, wasn't written until about 500 years after he died.
thenubinator 11 months ago
@thenubinator The reason I say that your belief is selfish and asinine is that you put yourself above other people simply because of what you believe. If you've really taken the time to reflect and examine your religion and the world, you will begin to see that nothing, no matter how concrete it may seem, is absolute truth or fact. All we know is known empirically, some hypothesis stand up empirically throughout time, so we refer to them as "fact". Other things must be taken solely on faith.
thenubinator 11 months ago
@thenubinator Because there is no way to test them empirically. This doesn't mean that either is more "true", they are simply different ways of believing. The difference is that no argument about the world can be made on the grounds of faith, simply because of its nature of being completely personal and non empirical. (e.g. Your religious beliefs are not mine because that is faith, but we both believe in gravity because they can be tested.)
thenubinator 11 months ago
@thenubinator The point I come to is that you CAN NOT judge that other people are going to, or are in heaven/hell because the belief that you have in heaven/hell is just that, your own personal belief (read, non empirical faith). If you want to know, I have faith (again, there is no purely empirical way to prove it) in neither heaven nor hell, simply because you rarely see absolute dichotomies in nature.
thenubinator 11 months ago
@thenubinator Ultimately, I live under the guide of 2 ideas, 1 empirical "fact", and 1 belief.
1. The impermanence of all things
2. A belief in the fundamental good at the root of human nature (i.e. I don't believe that people need god to "save them", that we are all born unique and innocent and have the innate ability to make the the lives of others better)
thenubinator 11 months ago
@thenubinator 1) Which is why most people joined...the belief in the others that were members.
2) They weren't a religious organization. It was political.
vperry999 1 month ago
stay strong my fellow ppl.
excersize your minds and stay strong..it's hard to think for yourself in large groups.
jesus f'n christopher robin hoodlums....this sh*t is scary.
iamDataFX 3 years ago 2
i can see how mass hysteria can cause an event like this. we are all programmed from birth. so all you know is what you've been taught. that is your truth. and when it seems right, in the immediate present (now) you kinda think yeah this is it. most of the ppl there, so it seems from the video were not abused or treated bad. only a few witnessed his "dark" nature. so i can see why that lasted for how long it did. by the time some ppl realized what was going on, they were neck deep in the sh*t.
iamDataFX 3 years ago 9
@ iamDataFX :i agree
yorubablk3 1 year ago
Seriously they think people would believe that they all willingly killed themself by taking poison. Hell no o__O That was just all pointless and unneeded. I cannot believe this D: That is horrible.
Tabitha1354 3 years ago
I am convinced that they willingly did.I've seen no objective evidence to the contrary that they didn't.
yorubablk3 1 year ago 2
A lot of children were actually forced to drink the poison. It's a massacre.
nicck 1 year ago 5
Yes,it is & yes it was.But the sad uncomfortable conclusion is,they all praticed doing this many times b4 they went through with it,& they all knew what the consequences would be....4 the children & everyone else.Terrible.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
I think they only did it once before. They new it was for real this time...it's why some people ran and refused to do it.
nicck 1 year ago
Actually,they had 'white nights' rehearsals many times,and rehearsed drinking poison on more than one occasion. Only two people ran that we know of,Odell Rhodes & Stanly Clayton.
yorubablk3 1 year ago
i dont understand how he could convince these people.. thank god none of my family fell for it
QuincyQQ 3 years ago 3
When people stop thinking for themselves and let someone else do their thinking for them, tragedies like Jonestown usually follow.
elperromagico 3 years ago 6
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thank god for allowing it to happen ...No god
hatemeallthetime 3 years ago