at first digging a pit to burry or dead was more to avoid to let a track of our presence to predator than became like a ritual next became incoporate in religious purpose which was invented by man to give a guiding rules to survive as a speacies which derive in itself from need to control it surrondding due to fear and lack of knowlegt to confort their pears and give them a kind of answer to something that they could fully understand.i leave you on that but i have alot to say about it
Once you strip away the modern things that modern men have invented, clothes, guns, other weapons, even with his advanced brain today, he is still the most vulnerable creature among other carnivorous animals which are bigger, faster and more agile than modern man. With nothign to aid him, he's helpless both on land and in water.
@minghan05, it tells me that our bodies have been hijacked by our brains. Once you evolve a brain capable of abstract problem solving, the consequence of losing some other ability, like the ability to digest low quality food, or a warm coat, or good teeth, is diminished because you can figure out a way around it. (Like grinding your food with a rock if you've lost your teeth, etc.) The only stuff we have left is the stuff our brain could use in the abstract way it has of solving problems.
@puncheex, you make a good point. Our hands, and anything else useful in the abstract way that our hands are, like our tongues, is also likely to improve rather than degenerate.
@ananiasacts: I am minded of a remark AronRa made in a video, about what may replace spaiens in the future. He said perhaps dolphins would, except for the fact that they don't have hands. Then he flashed this picture up of a raccoon standing on its hind legs holding an apple. At the bottom it says, "I haz hands!"
see thats what i dont get. it went from apeman skull found in a cave with a pigs jaw - somehow apes can crasp the conept of spirit that forms after death, resulting in the birth of art and religion. Only then to start builing enormous complex pyramids, a challlenge even now with modern technology. man would stlll find extreme difficult to replicate.
1. Because we didn't evolve from chimps, but from a common ancestor that we share with them; 2. I'm not a biologist but I'm pretty sure our genes are not 30.000 times different then a chimps'. In fact, our DNA is 99% the same.
3. It is obvious you haven't understood Evolution and I suggest you read some Darwin or Dawkins and then form opinions. Otherwise, you look like just another dumb guy.
1. Evolution does not change all members of a species, it only produces new ones one at a time. Chimps are *AS* evolved a humans but branched off from a common ancestor about 6 million years ago.
2. Humans and chimps have 99.5% identical genes. We are *VERY* close to chimps genetically. (Closer than Neanderthals or Macaques, for example.)
3. The two are unrelated. Evolution only requires observation. AIDS and Cancer are actually battles against very advanced cellular anomalies we cannot see.
umm, no. Some reaserches have suggested that we share 99.4% of our dna with the bonobo's. But most estimate between 98 and 99% genetic similarity with chimpanzees and bonobo's the most recent estimate is 98.8%. With Neanderthals, estimates range from 99.5% to 99.9% genetic similarity. Neanderthals are closer relatives than chimps, get over it.
@websnarf: I don't think you can say we are less different from chimps than Neadertals. They are much closer to us, having a common ancestor 500,000 years ago rather than 6 million; Macaques are probably 30 million years ago.
@puncheex : Hole crap! Did I write that? Totally correct puncheex. Mea culpa, I am completely full of crap. Feel free to block me and make videos mocking me. I deserve it.
Anyhow, yeah, in fact the recent stories about Woman-X cite the actual gene different counts and its obvious Sapiens and Neanderthalensis are the closest things to us that we know of to us.
Yeah but those offspring are unable to reproduce themselves hence dying off and not being prone to evolution. Where as we humans are supposedly the offspring of chimpanzees but we were able to keep reproducing and evolving.
You may be right but you missed the point. If those offspring were able to reproduce they would eventually evolve into a new species. It could also be said that if humans couldn't reproduce after whatever ape that we evolved from we would still be cavemen.
No...You wouldn't exist and I wouldn't exist and human kind would have never gotten as far as they are today. Look life is a fucking big mystery no one really knows why humans became so much more complex than the rest of the animal kingdom. I'm not going to argue with you any further because you're just not getting it.
LMAO! If we're "no more complex than any other ape" then why don't I see other apes being able to learn how play an instrument, read music, and then compose their own songs. Why don't I EVER see a chimp winning the Nobel Prize for a scientific breakthrough. However, like I said, you've missed the point and keep moving away from it. Its pointless sitting here and trying to make you understand since you don't have the slightest bit of common sense.
Its sad how you dont realize how complex the human mind is. Chimps may be 5 times stronger than me and you but do you realize that they still obey by our rules; Dolphins may have the most advanced nervous system in the animal kingdom, but why are we the ones to rule the seas. Dude no animal has ever changed the world the way we humans have, but if you cant see how special your body is then maybe you ought to sit back for a minute and reflect upon your meaning in your so called life.
Well my friend I wouldn't put it that way. I'm PRETTY sure that animals are superior to humans in MANY ways. If I ran up against a cheetah I would undoubtedly lose. If I fought a 400 lb gorilla I would more than likely be killed. With that said, even YOU would understand that if I sat down with the same gorilla to solve a math problem, the gorilla WOULD lack the mental complexity necessary in order to solve the problem and instead would eat the provided piece of paper and pencil.
Wow I just realized that you're a 54 year old firefighter. Its very disappointing that you've gotten that far with your life and your level of awareness is still that of 14 year olds. If you're really a firefighter like your profile says then you must have joined the fire department for the wrong reasons. Anyhow I never said that humans were "better," you keep saying that but I haven't used the word once. However humans are indeed more intellectually complex than the rest of the animals.
Biologically we are, if we don't count our higher brain functions (e.g. playing music, science, abstract thought) we're actually worse off in the world than the apes since they have stronger bodies and live in trees which we no longer do.
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What are you talking about? "We" which of course includes our brains, as well as our unique hands and the fact that we can walk upright without a problem, and also our larynx which can make more complex sounds than any other larynx out there (language, singing etc...) The evolution of our mind seems to exceed any advantage that other animals have over us such as strength, speed, or climbing trees, which we can still do.
Okay, go try survive alone on the African savanna, although our brains give us an advantage in making weapons and shelter, we lack the strength, speed and reflexes to survive long against the predators the baboons have been surviving against for thousands of years. My point is that we are no better surviving there than a baboon is surviving in New York city. We are adapted to urban life with abstract concepts like money and art. But money and art aren't going save you if a lion attacks.
You WOULD be right if we still lived in caves and if I were comparing human strength, speed, and agility to other animals. Unfortunately for you, we both live in modern caves, pay taxes and I'm talking about the evolution of the human brain which is the most complexly organized form of matter in our galaxy. This extraordinary organ has superseded the strength, speed, and agility of any animal out there, which is why it is US sitting here discussing this topic as opposed to a couple of BABOONS.
In other words I don't have to worry about being attacked by lions because as we all know "This is a man's world." My ancestors made sure thousands of years ago that their offspring wouldn't be eaten alive in order to ensure our survival, so they got away from that danger. It was survival of the fittest in its prime, and humans came out on top. Now the only thing I have to worry about is another human being causing me or my family harm, that and paying the damn bills on time.
Our brains are pretty much the most evolved part of our bodies. Evolution caused us to lose our strength and speed to make way for intelligence. Our evolved brains added to our meager strength and speed adds up to about the same complexity as any other animal that evolved alongside us.
WTF? No...it doesn't add up to the same complexity. If that was the case then we would still live in caves and eat from the wild just like the rest of the animal kingdom. In other words it doesn't matter that other animals are stronger or faster than us humans because strength and speed APPERENTLY arent really the best assets to have in this world.
dammit someone explain to this guy we are no more complex than any other animal that evolved alongside us. we are not a superior species just listen to what the video says, Cause I'm getting really damn bored doing this.
LMAO Apparently you've NEVER read a single book on evolution because they are all aimed at the way humans have evolved above all other species. Maybe YOU alone are NO more complex than a dog turd because you've FAILED to realize how you as a human are UNIQUE and extraordinary. Then again, you're some 18year old kid whose life revolves around video games and jacking off, so I don't expect you to know shit about whats going on around you.
this coming from the hippie who isn't civilized enough to use decent language in his misguided arguments, im not denying that humans are unique. Our brains have small molecular differences that give us our intelligence. Therefore we are biologically unremarkable besides the different molecules that gave us our intelligence.
If your hypothesis is so correct then explain why it isn't mentioned in the video and why pretty much any scientist in the field of evolution will disagree with you.
Give it up kid, you're not fooling anybody with your FAKE knowledge, just go play your video games and stop trying to pretend that you're highly knowledgeable in the field of evolution just because you've watched a couple of videos on YouTube. CLEARLY you're just repeating what you've heard before and have NO idea what you're saying. I'm using unique valid arguments while you're only repeating what you just learned in school last week.
@ARandomCanadian Why are we more important? We play no bigger role than anything else on earth. We are a highly evolved animal that lives to reproduce, and dies just like anything else. My compassion extends to human and animals equally. Obviously, if put in a situation of 2 cats over a human, there are a bunch of things that play into my decision and none of the reasons would be due to humans are more important.
We are Human (Animal) Which have special intelligent. Beside our physical is special. Our hands are great. We are mammals. We can learn...and We are SuperMan! and I am Son Goku.
@Ludde365You are right, but if an incompatibility in the genes occurs, then that is the end of artificial interspecies breeding. Horses and asses are near to that; camels and llamas can still do it (see cama). Whether humans and apes are is likely not, due to the 23/24 chromosome change. Experimentation in the direction is unethical anyway.
They all look the same to you. If you carefully study their faces you will see subtle differences between them. This should teach you to not take your beliefs for truth and question even what your own mind tells you is reality. Be skeptical of even your own thoughts, because they may be influenced by others.
Perhaps we will eventually evolve back out of religion into a pragmatic and more efficiently and accurately functioning understanding of our social structure.
Perhaps that or our religionists ideologies will result in violent destruction of our species.
Perhaps, ZardexM, I have always thought that a good definition of rational is something like sustainable and socially useful. A rational system would have good ideas as leaders. A systemic way of developing knowledge and education to liberate the potential of people etc. It is like evolution has led us to consciousness so that we work things out and not have to put up with the alpha male.. we are perhaps just starting to realize this now with democracy and things like youtube.
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this is a good video and who's not to say that evolution and creationism cant coexist i mean god could have created the earth and the apes. do you really think that the big bang happend and bam! there is the universe. i dont think soo.
Do you really think that God just came out of nowhere and bam!, theres the universe? Believing in the big bang theory is really tantamount to believing that God can just all of a sudden exist spontaneously and create the universe.
@Xproletariatx: Well, no. There are theories about where the matter and energy in the Big Bang came from. Perhaps with the SuperCollider we will know more soon.
if u say god has always existed, then what was he doing before he created the universe? why did he waited so long and all that infinite time? to write that plan? then what was he doing before that?
Well if God supposedly created everything then he created time, but then if he did create time then in the first instance of time both God and time existed with nothing before them and thus there was time in which God could create time.
So the theory of God creating everything utterly contradicts itself.
But time is a form of measurement. How can we say time exist? What there is no memory only physical evidence? Would we then say time exist. I'm not saying time is not there it's just known but not seen. Like forgotten but exist. So how can time "start" if it can't "end" it's just a "circle". And God? Well I'm not putting religion in this mess.
"so much evidence that evolution is true and those deluded christians think we atheists are dumb. Speaking of evolution, I wonder what we will evolve into next?"
R U fucking retarded? "I wonder what we will evolve into next?" If you HAVE heard about evolution and natural selection, you will fing that humans can no longer evolve. Only thing that could change us is genetic engineering.
Also, what's to say that some God didn't create the apes that evolved into us?
the mechanism of natural selection allows us to evolve even now. as a matter of fact we are evolving much faster. The proper question for an inqusitive mind is (if you don't think that evolution is plausible) to ask how god came in to being. if indeed he created the universe it would not be the true begining because he already existed. So without blindly following what others say (including evolutionists and creationists) ask for yourself and investigate to know the answers.
the mechanism of natural selection allows us to evolve even now. as a matter of fact we are evolving much faster. The proper question for an inqusitive mind is (if you don't think that evolution is plausible) to ask how god came in to being. if indeed he created the universe it would not be the true begining because he already existed. So without blindly following what others say (including evolutionists and creationists) ask for yourself and investigate to know the answers.
@ARandomCanadian: No. Evolution is still among us, so to speak. True we have largely overcome natural selection with artificial selection, but the mechanism still works. We still accumulate some 150 mutations per germ cell lifetime. Genetics killed off the Habsburgs after 700 years of running Eurpoe; it can still do so with us.
@ARandomCanadianWell, among other things we are adapting ourselves to promoting lactase production past puberty. We may have changed our selection criteria, but mutations are ongoing, sexual selection is still in place and genetic drift continues taking its toll. Heritability still works. Yup, but for selection all the actors are in place.
As for not seeing changes, getting 30% to be lactose tolerant throughout life took about 40,000 years. Take a long view.
@ARandomCanadian: How in the world do you claim to know that? All that has really happened is that we are a species where physical barriers no longer have the power to sequester genes, and that we've partially defeated natural selection through civilization and medical support. Other than that, all the mechanisms are still there and in place. We have only been difference from all other animals in this respect for about 6000 years, far too short a time to have observed any genetic changes.
Secondly, what are "minor changes and mutations" as opposed to evolution? Can you assure me that we in the twenty-first could mate with H. sapiens of, say, 100,000 years ago and reproduce (the definition of a species)?
And finally, whence this certainty that evolution isn't in action? Where is your evidence? It sounds very much like it is bibliogenic - someone has told you that it is impossible for H sapiens to mutate out of "kind", and that is your evidence. I certainly haven't heard anything else here.
@ARandomCanadian: You just keep making these assertions without any evidence. How come? Evolution depends on five principles: mutation, heritability, natural selection, sexual selection and genetic drift. The only one that civilization has changed is natural selection, making it somewhat artificial, and making deleterious but non-fatal mutations "good enough". Looked at another way, our environment has become a lot more error-forgiving but evolve we will continue. Tell me how that isn't true.
@puncheex There is no genetic drift because there is no need for one. There is no need to evolve so we have ceased.
Any mutation that occurs will either be ended because the human will not reproduce or the mutation will die off from other genes wiping it out over generations.
I doubt we'll see change in sexual selection even in a million years.
It's the environment thats adapting and evolving because of our civilization. What's your point?
@ARandomCanadian: Evolution doesn't have needs; it is a process, not a being. We haven't stopped evolving; I've explained a couple of ways, and you just ignore them. Genetic drift doesn't stop for lack of need. Genes do not "wipe out mutations"; it is a fact that our germ cells accumulate, on average, about 150 mutations per cell over a lifetime; most neutral, some bad, some good. Why do you doubt sexual selection won't change? Will aggressiveness still attract women in a million years?
@puncheex: My point is that evolution in humans is alive and well, and will continue to change us over time, slowly but steadily. We probably will even encourage it by inducing our own mutations in the future, and continue taking a hand in selection.
@puncheex Evolution does have needs. Of course it's not a being. But can you evolve a rock or can you evolve water? No because it's not a living being. Evolutiion does not happen unless the living being NEEDS to change.
@puncheex All those mutations cancel each other out over generations. If I have a mutant small nose and my mate has a mutant big nose our children will most likely have medium sized noses (With some exceptions of course) But the more the generations you have the more likely the mutation will have vanished.
Will aggressiveness still attract women in a million years? Why would it? That would be an evolution in culture not a biological one.
@ARandomCanadian: Odd ones like that may. But a mutation to enable the absorption and use of milk sugar by adults, in food-scarce lands with domesticated animals; that will spread. Those with an opposing gene or lack of such a gene will preferentially decline.
@puncheex If it wasn't for modern civilisation I would agree with you but genes with "good effects" are virtually useless now thanks to modern medicine, or simply a change in diet.
Not sure where you're getting at, youll have to give me another example.
@ARandomCanadian: No, modern medicine is barely scratching the surface at interveining in natural systems. Anyone in the pharmaceutical industry will tell you that in all honesty most of the medicines which we use in the cure of disease, in one way or another, delay the illness process enough that the immune system can kick in before the body is overwhelmed and perform the true cure. We are far from being able to use artificial means to support or supplant natural evolved processes.
@puncheex You'd be surprised how many diseased people pass on their genes. Thanks you've proven my point. The "true cure" is your immune system adapting. No evolution here. Your DNA genome remains the same. You are sparred and free to pass on your genes.
"We are far from being able to use artificial means to support or supplant natural evolved processes" How so? We've genitically modified fish and plants to grow faster. Humans is the next step.
@ARandomCanadian: I never said that we aren't manipulating evolution; what I am saying is that we haven't managed to remove ourselves totally from it.
So, what exactly is the "adaptation" you speak of, that can happen within the week or two that a contagious disease normally takes to win or loose the struggle? The immune system is itself adaptive; that's not genetic, except it its basic construction. Like the brain it has the capacity to learn about its environment and react in a limited way.
Sure, we've modified other animals, but only in a gross and superficial way. We haven't crafted proteins; we've borrowed a useful gene from another species and grafted the gene into the target's genome. We've only created the most gross kind of gene mutation, essentially acting like an endogenous virus (indeed, using such) to get a whole desirable gene into theirs.
Our technology crawls before it walks or runs, and that is exactly what it is we're doing now in genetic modification.
@ARandomCanadian, I disagree. I think we're changing at the same rate we always have and will most likely be changing a lot faster as we begin systematically improving our genome. But let's assume you're correct. And we're identical to the most ancient people we could successfully mate with today; what's the point of mentioning it? What does that "fact" suggest to you?
so much evidence that evolution is true and those deluded christians think we atheists are dumb. Speaking of evolution, I wonder what we will evolve into next?
Evolution requires natural selection. In places were social societies exist, people tend not to eradicate people with disadvantages. Genetic disadvantages (unless they prevent procreation) tend not to be weeded out.
On the other hand in places like Africa where the AIDS virus has been ravaging them, a few people have been discovered to be immune to it. That's what evolution does: it leaves survivors in the wake of massive local species extinction.
When the first Africans migrated to lower Europe and the Fertile Crescent they did not return to Africa and thus lead to a genetic isolation from their African ancestors. Any genetic mutation that became dominant either from this group or the Africans would not appear in the other group.
Straight versus "afro" hair, skin pigmentation and different physical skill are obvious differences that can probably be attributed to this isolation.
Scientific update: We spoke before that time period. At least our ancestors.
jessydaytime 3 weeks ago
at first digging a pit to burry or dead was more to avoid to let a track of our presence to predator than became like a ritual next became incoporate in religious purpose which was invented by man to give a guiding rules to survive as a speacies which derive in itself from need to control it surrondding due to fear and lack of knowlegt to confort their pears and give them a kind of answer to something that they could fully understand.i leave you on that but i have alot to say about it
mystisme 1 year ago
Sadly some people still want a worldview like our ancestors.
HybridD91 1 year ago
2:15 I think you'd have to ask a woman that question.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
I'm never talking again while eating lol
mayabrasil88 1 year ago
Once you strip away the modern things that modern men have invented, clothes, guns, other weapons, even with his advanced brain today, he is still the most vulnerable creature among other carnivorous animals which are bigger, faster and more agile than modern man. With nothign to aid him, he's helpless both on land and in water.
minghan05 1 year ago
@minghan05, it tells me that our bodies have been hijacked by our brains. Once you evolve a brain capable of abstract problem solving, the consequence of losing some other ability, like the ability to digest low quality food, or a warm coat, or good teeth, is diminished because you can figure out a way around it. (Like grinding your food with a rock if you've lost your teeth, etc.) The only stuff we have left is the stuff our brain could use in the abstract way it has of solving problems.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
@ananiasacts: Hard to do without hands, though.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex, you make a good point. Our hands, and anything else useful in the abstract way that our hands are, like our tongues, is also likely to improve rather than degenerate.
ananiasacts 1 year ago
@ananiasacts: I am minded of a remark AronRa made in a video, about what may replace spaiens in the future. He said perhaps dolphins would, except for the fact that they don't have hands. Then he flashed this picture up of a raccoon standing on its hind legs holding an apple. At the bottom it says, "I haz hands!"
puncheex 1 year ago
see thats what i dont get. it went from apeman skull found in a cave with a pigs jaw - somehow apes can crasp the conept of spirit that forms after death, resulting in the birth of art and religion. Only then to start builing enormous complex pyramids, a challlenge even now with modern technology. man would stlll find extreme difficult to replicate.
sammysnakejones 2 years ago
"With our larynx in it's lower position, just occasionally food falls down the windpipe."
Intelligent Design? o_O
adkinsjr 2 years ago 7
lol
7ty714 1 year ago
All you people should shut the fuck up, keep ur views and your thoughts to urselves man, just fukcing watch the video and enojoy it man shit.
SlovenskaToronto 2 years ago 2
What about bananas? Bananas led to the creation of jet planes.
rad3xl 3 years ago
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plzz finish gehabt es?? PLXXAS
Can ICH habe et FRIKVATER?? PLXAXA
Freaksne 3 years ago
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Simply questions to be answered:
1.Why are there still chimps, if we evolved?
2.Evolution IS mutation. Why are our genes 30,000 times different then a chimps? hmmmm?
3. They can't cure cancer or AIDS, but say they figured out, how we came about, "evolution." Hmmmm
Iam sorry, I don't believe much of anything "MAN" says. We destroy, consume and then have the balls to say, "we KNOW how."
Yeah right.
BTW-Iam not religious. Just seeking the truth in a world of QUICK answers.
xxtigerclawxx 3 years ago
1. Because we didn't evolve from chimps, but from a common ancestor that we share with them; 2. I'm not a biologist but I'm pretty sure our genes are not 30.000 times different then a chimps'. In fact, our DNA is 99% the same.
3. It is obvious you haven't understood Evolution and I suggest you read some Darwin or Dawkins and then form opinions. Otherwise, you look like just another dumb guy.
zece1314 3 years ago 20
@zece1314 fuck r u talking too
osiris3yhn 10 months ago
1. Evolution does not change all members of a species, it only produces new ones one at a time. Chimps are *AS* evolved a humans but branched off from a common ancestor about 6 million years ago.
2. Humans and chimps have 99.5% identical genes. We are *VERY* close to chimps genetically. (Closer than Neanderthals or Macaques, for example.)
3. The two are unrelated. Evolution only requires observation. AIDS and Cancer are actually battles against very advanced cellular anomalies we cannot see.
websnarf 3 years ago 15
umm, no. Some reaserches have suggested that we share 99.4% of our dna with the bonobo's. But most estimate between 98 and 99% genetic similarity with chimpanzees and bonobo's the most recent estimate is 98.8%. With Neanderthals, estimates range from 99.5% to 99.9% genetic similarity. Neanderthals are closer relatives than chimps, get over it.
garrywarney 3 years ago 4
If I remember correctly we are closer to chimps than chimps are to orangutans
RPFS2008 2 years ago 4
@websnarf: I don't think you can say we are less different from chimps than Neadertals. They are much closer to us, having a common ancestor 500,000 years ago rather than 6 million; Macaques are probably 30 million years ago.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex : Hole crap! Did I write that? Totally correct puncheex. Mea culpa, I am completely full of crap. Feel free to block me and make videos mocking me. I deserve it.
Anyhow, yeah, in fact the recent stories about Woman-X cite the actual gene different counts and its obvious Sapiens and Neanderthalensis are the closest things to us that we know of to us.
websnarf 1 year ago
@websnarf: Ah, man, I'm not an ogre. Don't pay any attention to what those other guys say.
puncheex 1 year ago
We are closer to chimpanzees than horses are to donkeys, and donkeys and horses can even get kids.
Ludde365 2 years ago
Yeah but those offspring are unable to reproduce themselves hence dying off and not being prone to evolution. Where as we humans are supposedly the offspring of chimpanzees but we were able to keep reproducing and evolving.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
Where as we humans are supposedly the offspring of chimpanzees.....
No, Chimps have been evolving as long as we have, till today. We share a common ancestor millions of years ago.
gregrutz 2 years ago
You may be right but you missed the point. If those offspring were able to reproduce they would eventually evolve into a new species. It could also be said that if humans couldn't reproduce after whatever ape that we evolved from we would still be cavemen.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
If you can't reproduce, you go extinct.
99% of all speceis did go extinct.
If you are trying to say we are still apes you would be correct.
gregrutz 2 years ago
No...You wouldn't exist and I wouldn't exist and human kind would have never gotten as far as they are today. Look life is a fucking big mystery no one really knows why humans became so much more complex than the rest of the animal kingdom. I'm not going to argue with you any further because you're just not getting it.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
You are wrong, we are no more complex than any other ape. We share 98.6% the same DNA as a chimp.
gregrutz 2 years ago
correction, why our BRAINS are more complex, not us.
craftingdreams 2 years ago
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JEZUZ06 2 years ago
hence dying off and not being prone to evolution"
This is evolution, the dying off of the weak.
gregrutz 2 years ago
LMAO! If we're "no more complex than any other ape" then why don't I see other apes being able to learn how play an instrument, read music, and then compose their own songs. Why don't I EVER see a chimp winning the Nobel Prize for a scientific breakthrough. However, like I said, you've missed the point and keep moving away from it. Its pointless sitting here and trying to make you understand since you don't have the slightest bit of common sense.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
What is your fucking point? You keep saying I am missing it but you don't tell me what it is?
Chimps are 5 times stronger than you and can swing from the trees, can you?
Dolphins can echo locate, can you?
gregrutz 2 years ago
Its sad how you dont realize how complex the human mind is. Chimps may be 5 times stronger than me and you but do you realize that they still obey by our rules; Dolphins may have the most advanced nervous system in the animal kingdom, but why are we the ones to rule the seas. Dude no animal has ever changed the world the way we humans have, but if you cant see how special your body is then maybe you ought to sit back for a minute and reflect upon your meaning in your so called life.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
Humans are smarter than other animals, do you think that make you better?
gregrutz 2 years ago
Well my friend I wouldn't put it that way. I'm PRETTY sure that animals are superior to humans in MANY ways. If I ran up against a cheetah I would undoubtedly lose. If I fought a 400 lb gorilla I would more than likely be killed. With that said, even YOU would understand that if I sat down with the same gorilla to solve a math problem, the gorilla WOULD lack the mental complexity necessary in order to solve the problem and instead would eat the provided piece of paper and pencil.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
so what is your point, animal have evolved as long as we have? True
We are smarter? True
We are somehow better? Not.
gregrutz 2 years ago
Wow I just realized that you're a 54 year old firefighter. Its very disappointing that you've gotten that far with your life and your level of awareness is still that of 14 year olds. If you're really a firefighter like your profile says then you must have joined the fire department for the wrong reasons. Anyhow I never said that humans were "better," you keep saying that but I haven't used the word once. However humans are indeed more intellectually complex than the rest of the animals.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
Biologically we are, if we don't count our higher brain functions (e.g. playing music, science, abstract thought) we're actually worse off in the world than the apes since they have stronger bodies and live in trees which we no longer do.
craftingdreams 2 years ago
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What are you talking about? "We" which of course includes our brains, as well as our unique hands and the fact that we can walk upright without a problem, and also our larynx which can make more complex sounds than any other larynx out there (language, singing etc...) The evolution of our mind seems to exceed any advantage that other animals have over us such as strength, speed, or climbing trees, which we can still do.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
Okay, go try survive alone on the African savanna, although our brains give us an advantage in making weapons and shelter, we lack the strength, speed and reflexes to survive long against the predators the baboons have been surviving against for thousands of years. My point is that we are no better surviving there than a baboon is surviving in New York city. We are adapted to urban life with abstract concepts like money and art. But money and art aren't going save you if a lion attacks.
craftingdreams 2 years ago
You WOULD be right if we still lived in caves and if I were comparing human strength, speed, and agility to other animals. Unfortunately for you, we both live in modern caves, pay taxes and I'm talking about the evolution of the human brain which is the most complexly organized form of matter in our galaxy. This extraordinary organ has superseded the strength, speed, and agility of any animal out there, which is why it is US sitting here discussing this topic as opposed to a couple of BABOONS.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
In other words I don't have to worry about being attacked by lions because as we all know "This is a man's world." My ancestors made sure thousands of years ago that their offspring wouldn't be eaten alive in order to ensure our survival, so they got away from that danger. It was survival of the fittest in its prime, and humans came out on top. Now the only thing I have to worry about is another human being causing me or my family harm, that and paying the damn bills on time.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
Our brains are pretty much the most evolved part of our bodies. Evolution caused us to lose our strength and speed to make way for intelligence. Our evolved brains added to our meager strength and speed adds up to about the same complexity as any other animal that evolved alongside us.
craftingdreams 2 years ago
WTF? No...it doesn't add up to the same complexity. If that was the case then we would still live in caves and eat from the wild just like the rest of the animal kingdom. In other words it doesn't matter that other animals are stronger or faster than us humans because strength and speed APPERENTLY arent really the best assets to have in this world.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
dammit someone explain to this guy we are no more complex than any other animal that evolved alongside us. we are not a superior species just listen to what the video says, Cause I'm getting really damn bored doing this.
just go read evolution for dummies or something.
craftingdreams 2 years ago
LMAO Apparently you've NEVER read a single book on evolution because they are all aimed at the way humans have evolved above all other species. Maybe YOU alone are NO more complex than a dog turd because you've FAILED to realize how you as a human are UNIQUE and extraordinary. Then again, you're some 18year old kid whose life revolves around video games and jacking off, so I don't expect you to know shit about whats going on around you.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
this coming from the hippie who isn't civilized enough to use decent language in his misguided arguments, im not denying that humans are unique. Our brains have small molecular differences that give us our intelligence. Therefore we are biologically unremarkable besides the different molecules that gave us our intelligence.
craftingdreams 2 years ago
If your hypothesis is so correct then explain why it isn't mentioned in the video and why pretty much any scientist in the field of evolution will disagree with you.
craftingdreams 2 years ago
Give it up kid, you're not fooling anybody with your FAKE knowledge, just go play your video games and stop trying to pretend that you're highly knowledgeable in the field of evolution just because you've watched a couple of videos on YouTube. CLEARLY you're just repeating what you've heard before and have NO idea what you're saying. I'm using unique valid arguments while you're only repeating what you just learned in school last week.
JEZUZ06 2 years ago
We aren't more important than any other species but we are more complex.
deltronz3roo 1 year ago 3
@deltronz3roo What do you mean we aren't more important? Of course we are, you'd rather save 2 cats instead of a human being?
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian Why are we more important? We play no bigger role than anything else on earth. We are a highly evolved animal that lives to reproduce, and dies just like anything else. My compassion extends to human and animals equally. Obviously, if put in a situation of 2 cats over a human, there are a bunch of things that play into my decision and none of the reasons would be due to humans are more important.
deltronz3roo 1 year ago
@deltronz3roo If you chose the 2 cats over a human, you'd go to prison.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian Perhaps that would be one of those reasons contributing to why I would pick a human. hmmmm
deltronz3roo 1 year ago
We are Human (Animal) Which have special intelligent. Beside our physical is special. Our hands are great. We are mammals. We can learn...and We are SuperMan! and I am Son Goku.
ahjohn86 2 years ago
:) win.......
SuperAusBros 2 years ago
actually yea hes pretty much right.
craftingdreams 2 years ago
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puncheex 1 year ago
@Ludde365You are right, but if an incompatibility in the genes occurs, then that is the end of artificial interspecies breeding. Horses and asses are near to that; camels and llamas can still do it (see cama). Whether humans and apes are is likely not, due to the 23/24 chromosome change. Experimentation in the direction is unethical anyway.
puncheex 1 year ago
@xxtigerclawxx:
1. chimps evolved from our common ancestor, as did we.
2. Mutation is part of evolution. Because we split and went our own ways 6 mya.
3. Look, it's been on 60 years since we even knew we had genes. Give it a little time; it will come.
Well, it's not impossible to live on an island by yourself. Lonely, though. They say studying your navel will help you, too.
puncheex 1 year ago
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EVERY human gets their looks from their parents or family but how did that evolve?? u dont see that in chimps they all look the same
ibelogan08 3 years ago
They all look the same to you. If you carefully study their faces you will see subtle differences between them. This should teach you to not take your beliefs for truth and question even what your own mind tells you is reality. Be skeptical of even your own thoughts, because they may be influenced by others.
spleenblender 3 years ago 7
Perhaps we will eventually evolve back out of religion into a pragmatic and more efficiently and accurately functioning understanding of our social structure.
Perhaps that or our religionists ideologies will result in violent destruction of our species.
ZardexM 3 years ago
Perhaps, ZardexM, I have always thought that a good definition of rational is something like sustainable and socially useful. A rational system would have good ideas as leaders. A systemic way of developing knowledge and education to liberate the potential of people etc. It is like evolution has led us to consciousness so that we work things out and not have to put up with the alpha male.. we are perhaps just starting to realize this now with democracy and things like youtube.
peace
marsCubed 3 years ago
09:14 Alicia Keys?
Saibot00 3 years ago
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this is a good video and who's not to say that evolution and creationism cant coexist i mean god could have created the earth and the apes. do you really think that the big bang happend and bam! there is the universe. i dont think soo.
kedamawit 4 years ago
Do you really think that God just came out of nowhere and bam!, theres the universe? Believing in the big bang theory is really tantamount to believing that God can just all of a sudden exist spontaneously and create the universe.
Xproletariatx 4 years ago 4
@Xproletariatx: Well, no. There are theories about where the matter and energy in the Big Bang came from. Perhaps with the SuperCollider we will know more soon.
puncheex 1 year ago
if u say god has always existed, then what was he doing before he created the universe? why did he waited so long and all that infinite time? to write that plan? then what was he doing before that?
Jaxoff 3 years ago
Well if God supposedly created everything then he created time, but then if he did create time then in the first instance of time both God and time existed with nothing before them and thus there was time in which God could create time.
So the theory of God creating everything utterly contradicts itself.
We4reLegion 3 years ago 5
But time is a form of measurement. How can we say time exist? What there is no memory only physical evidence? Would we then say time exist. I'm not saying time is not there it's just known but not seen. Like forgotten but exist. So how can time "start" if it can't "end" it's just a "circle". And God? Well I'm not putting religion in this mess.
geong3677 3 years ago
Creationism is a kind of Cretinism
Phygos2008 3 years ago 5
haha
lifeisgummo 3 years ago
5 of 5 is best part
ARandomCanadian 4 years ago
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I thought this was supposed to be about transhumanism? THis sucks
ARandomCanadian 4 years ago
Not all theists think that evolutionists and atheists are dumb.
Most theists are anti-anti-theists. Not anti-atheists.
ARandomCanadian 4 years ago
Very well said.
exupstreetfighter 4 years ago
"so much evidence that evolution is true and those deluded christians think we atheists are dumb. Speaking of evolution, I wonder what we will evolve into next?"
R U fucking retarded? "I wonder what we will evolve into next?" If you HAVE heard about evolution and natural selection, you will fing that humans can no longer evolve. Only thing that could change us is genetic engineering.
Also, what's to say that some God didn't create the apes that evolved into us?
ARandomCanadian 4 years ago
the mechanism of natural selection allows us to evolve even now. as a matter of fact we are evolving much faster. The proper question for an inqusitive mind is (if you don't think that evolution is plausible) to ask how god came in to being. if indeed he created the universe it would not be the true begining because he already existed. So without blindly following what others say (including evolutionists and creationists) ask for yourself and investigate to know the answers.
morgoth007 3 years ago
the mechanism of natural selection allows us to evolve even now. as a matter of fact we are evolving much faster. The proper question for an inqusitive mind is (if you don't think that evolution is plausible) to ask how god came in to being. if indeed he created the universe it would not be the true begining because he already existed. So without blindly following what others say (including evolutionists and creationists) ask for yourself and investigate to know the answers.
morgoth007 3 years ago 2
@ARandomCanadian: No. Evolution is still among us, so to speak. True we have largely overcome natural selection with artificial selection, but the mechanism still works. We still accumulate some 150 mutations per germ cell lifetime. Genetics killed off the Habsburgs after 700 years of running Eurpoe; it can still do so with us.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex I'd call it more adaptaion because we've ceased to evolve into different species. THere are no more physical changes in humans.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadianWell, among other things we are adapting ourselves to promoting lactase production past puberty. We may have changed our selection criteria, but mutations are ongoing, sexual selection is still in place and genetic drift continues taking its toll. Heritability still works. Yup, but for selection all the actors are in place.
As for not seeing changes, getting 30% to be lactose tolerant throughout life took about 40,000 years. Take a long view.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex Again, not really any physical cahnges in the human anatomy. It's just adaptations and minor mutations.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: How in the world do you claim to know that? All that has really happened is that we are a species where physical barriers no longer have the power to sequester genes, and that we've partially defeated natural selection through civilization and medical support. Other than that, all the mechanisms are still there and in place. We have only been difference from all other animals in this respect for about 6000 years, far too short a time to have observed any genetic changes.
puncheex 1 year ago
Secondly, what are "minor changes and mutations" as opposed to evolution? Can you assure me that we in the twenty-first could mate with H. sapiens of, say, 100,000 years ago and reproduce (the definition of a species)?
puncheex 1 year ago
And finally, whence this certainty that evolution isn't in action? Where is your evidence? It sounds very much like it is bibliogenic - someone has told you that it is impossible for H sapiens to mutate out of "kind", and that is your evidence. I certainly haven't heard anything else here.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex Civilization has stopped human evolution. Not only partially defeated it.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: You just keep making these assertions without any evidence. How come? Evolution depends on five principles: mutation, heritability, natural selection, sexual selection and genetic drift. The only one that civilization has changed is natural selection, making it somewhat artificial, and making deleterious but non-fatal mutations "good enough". Looked at another way, our environment has become a lot more error-forgiving but evolve we will continue. Tell me how that isn't true.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex There is no genetic drift because there is no need for one. There is no need to evolve so we have ceased.
Any mutation that occurs will either be ended because the human will not reproduce or the mutation will die off from other genes wiping it out over generations.
I doubt we'll see change in sexual selection even in a million years.
It's the environment thats adapting and evolving because of our civilization. What's your point?
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: Evolution doesn't have needs; it is a process, not a being. We haven't stopped evolving; I've explained a couple of ways, and you just ignore them. Genetic drift doesn't stop for lack of need. Genes do not "wipe out mutations"; it is a fact that our germ cells accumulate, on average, about 150 mutations per cell over a lifetime; most neutral, some bad, some good. Why do you doubt sexual selection won't change? Will aggressiveness still attract women in a million years?
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex: My point is that evolution in humans is alive and well, and will continue to change us over time, slowly but steadily. We probably will even encourage it by inducing our own mutations in the future, and continue taking a hand in selection.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex Inducing our own mutations is not evolution.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: Why?
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex The term evolution is defined as simply change over time.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@puncheex Evolution does have needs. Of course it's not a being. But can you evolve a rock or can you evolve water? No because it's not a living being. Evolutiion does not happen unless the living being NEEDS to change.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: Balderdash.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex GTFO
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@puncheex All those mutations cancel each other out over generations. If I have a mutant small nose and my mate has a mutant big nose our children will most likely have medium sized noses (With some exceptions of course) But the more the generations you have the more likely the mutation will have vanished.
Will aggressiveness still attract women in a million years? Why would it? That would be an evolution in culture not a biological one.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: Odd ones like that may. But a mutation to enable the absorption and use of milk sugar by adults, in food-scarce lands with domesticated animals; that will spread. Those with an opposing gene or lack of such a gene will preferentially decline.
puncheex 1 year ago
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@puncheex "Those with an opposing gene or lack of such a gene will preferentially decline"
Why would they?
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: Because if a gene has a good effect, then the opposite or even the lack of that gene would not be able to compete with it.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex If it wasn't for modern civilisation I would agree with you but genes with "good effects" are virtually useless now thanks to modern medicine, or simply a change in diet.
Not sure where you're getting at, youll have to give me another example.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: No, modern medicine is barely scratching the surface at interveining in natural systems. Anyone in the pharmaceutical industry will tell you that in all honesty most of the medicines which we use in the cure of disease, in one way or another, delay the illness process enough that the immune system can kick in before the body is overwhelmed and perform the true cure. We are far from being able to use artificial means to support or supplant natural evolved processes.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex You'd be surprised how many diseased people pass on their genes. Thanks you've proven my point. The "true cure" is your immune system adapting. No evolution here. Your DNA genome remains the same. You are sparred and free to pass on your genes.
"We are far from being able to use artificial means to support or supplant natural evolved processes" How so? We've genitically modified fish and plants to grow faster. Humans is the next step.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian: I never said that we aren't manipulating evolution; what I am saying is that we haven't managed to remove ourselves totally from it.
So, what exactly is the "adaptation" you speak of, that can happen within the week or two that a contagious disease normally takes to win or loose the struggle? The immune system is itself adaptive; that's not genetic, except it its basic construction. Like the brain it has the capacity to learn about its environment and react in a limited way.
puncheex 1 year ago
Sure, we've modified other animals, but only in a gross and superficial way. We haven't crafted proteins; we've borrowed a useful gene from another species and grafted the gene into the target's genome. We've only created the most gross kind of gene mutation, essentially acting like an endogenous virus (indeed, using such) to get a whole desirable gene into theirs.
Our technology crawls before it walks or runs, and that is exactly what it is we're doing now in genetic modification.
puncheex 1 year ago
@puncheex Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
@ARandomCanadian, I disagree. I think we're changing at the same rate we always have and will most likely be changing a lot faster as we begin systematically improving our genome. But let's assume you're correct. And we're identical to the most ancient people we could successfully mate with today; what's the point of mentioning it? What does that "fact" suggest to you?
ananiasacts 1 year ago
@ananiasacts How are we improving our genome? Changing our DNA with science doesn't count.
"what's the point of mentioning it?" Why wouldn't there be? It means we haven't changed since we became human which is when civilisation started.
"What does that "fact" suggest to you?" That civilistation is evolving, not humans.
ARandomCanadian 1 year ago
so much evidence that evolution is true and those deluded christians think we atheists are dumb. Speaking of evolution, I wonder what we will evolve into next?
sabby123456789 4 years ago 2
Evolution requires natural selection. In places were social societies exist, people tend not to eradicate people with disadvantages. Genetic disadvantages (unless they prevent procreation) tend not to be weeded out.
On the other hand in places like Africa where the AIDS virus has been ravaging them, a few people have been discovered to be immune to it. That's what evolution does: it leaves survivors in the wake of massive local species extinction.
Unfortunately, evolution is not very nice.
websnarf 3 years ago 4
explains why pigs are so looked down apon by religion. XD its the origin!!!!!
Jaxoff 4 years ago
Because religion is deeply irrational.
Tranquilabiding 4 years ago 5
i agree
jhashbmw 4 years ago
hahahahaha!! religion originated with pigs' jaw bones!
marklethanarkle 4 years ago 2
it's so amazing, observing the inquistive nature of the chimps in this video. they're very attuned to their environment. i want to be a zoologist!!
marklethanarkle 4 years ago 2
cut to clip of dubai when the narrator says "world dominance"
PolliFaxToaster 4 years ago
how cute the baby chimp is watching the parent like how when we were young copying our parents =P
animunki 4 years ago
WHAT IS THE explaination for hair types. Why is it that when africans left the continent and inhabited europe their hair grew very long?
oliviathecanadian 4 years ago
hair types are based on weather condition and the adaptation of it.
naturalized 4 years ago
so white people have long hair to keep them warm during the winter. But since it is not necessary anymore that is why they style it? i see
oliviathecanadian 4 years ago
When the first Africans migrated to lower Europe and the Fertile Crescent they did not return to Africa and thus lead to a genetic isolation from their African ancestors. Any genetic mutation that became dominant either from this group or the Africans would not appear in the other group.
Straight versus "afro" hair, skin pigmentation and different physical skill are obvious differences that can probably be attributed to this isolation.
websnarf 3 years ago