This is quite an interesting video. All one-sided discussion. It kind of reminds you of what will happen if you don't get involve in important things.
Well it looks like you unionists are all wrong! Greece is cutting your pensions by 20% and Italy is right behind! Pay your own fucking pensions and medical and get off the backs of the people that REALLY work!
UNICEF- An estimated 158 million children aged 5-14 are engaged in child labour - one in six children in the world.
wikipedia article titled "Child Labour":
In the 1990s every country in the world except for Somalia and the United States became a signatory to the Convention on the Rights of the Child, or CRC. Somalia eventually signed the convention in 2002; the delay of the signing was believed to been due to Somalia not having a government.
Wiki article "Child labor laws in the United States":
"Human rights organizations have documented child labor in USA. According to a 2009 petition by Human Rights Watch: "Hundreds of thousands of children are employed as farmworkers in the United States, often working 10 or more hours a day. They are often exposed to dangerous pesticides, experience high rates of injury, and suffer fatalities at five times the rate of other working youth."
@Eatm308amA Your question wasn't whether child laborers were 'U.S. citizens' your "question" (more of a snide dismissal apparently) was: "Child labor? Where?" I thought you may have found the information that 1 in 6 children in the world - and several hundred thousand here in the U.S. - are child laborers and that many are working under the most deplorable of conditions as interesting and as appalling as I did but apparently you didn't because in your mind only "American citizens" matter.
@JeremysVideos2 And your initial reply to me neglected to mention the children here in America are not American citizens. A close walk with dis-information on your part you socialist scum. So, apparently they either choose to be here or the parents force them to do so. Sounds like you should be bitching about the responsibilities of the parents that brought them here.
"but apparently you didn't because in your mind only "American citizens" matter.
@JeremysVideos2 I thought American unions were suppossed to be watching out for Amreican's jobs. Instead you fight for non American's rights in America. AFL-CIO is defined as "The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations"
You used to mean something to America. Now you are the enemy.
@gbmphillips it's just about treating people fairly. Get a life and stop being so angry. You'll get paid more and have better benefits as a result of the work unions are doing too.
@gbmphillips They do, every good thing you take for granted about your job, you have because union members fought and died for it. You're just too closed minded to accept it. Doesn't change the fact.
I don't know about all Union negotiations, but I attended a workshop for Union Teachers that was a traing program on dealing with administration. One of the things stressed was having a plan in order before hand----if certain things were done by management, we were prepared to walk out until they indicated they were willing to negotiate in good faith. If they wouldn't even let us into the negotiations, have you ever heard of NLRB complaints?
I have sat in on collective bargaining sessions, and management always tries to ram unreasonable concessions down the workers throat. Thank God for the strong, educated and righteous labor leaders at every level who try to protect workers' rights, protect the middle class, and contribute to the economic health of the country.
Idiots! unions and a "few" parasites are the only things dumb enough to kill their own host! Hows your membership thing going? If it wasn't for illegal aliens it would only be 3% of the workforce! Can you say "communism"? Well its bankrupting Europe and we are next, thx to you!
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Idiots! unions and a "few" parasites are the only things dumb enough to kill their own host! Hows your membership thing going? If it wasn't for illegal aliens it would only be 3% of the workforce! Can you say "communism"? Well its bankrupty Europe and we are next, thx to you!
@Stiffroot I have sat in on collective bargaining sessions, and management always tries to ram unreasonable concessions down the workers throat. Thank God for the strong, educated and righteous labor leaders at every level who try to protect workers' rights, protect the middle class, and contribute to the economic health of the country.
@Stiffroot Bankrupt Europe? Bankrupt Europe??? Ha ha ha ha ha!!! If you look at the wikipedia article for "states by current account balance". You'll see that many of the most financially solvent countries are IN EUROPE where trade unions are not discouraged. Oh look! There's Germany, #3. And Norway #5, and Switzerland #7. Where is the USA? Uh-oh! #191. One of the countries closest to bankruptcy. If unions kill their hosts, why are Germany and other union friendly countries doing so well?
@TheWashingtonEagle Have you heard of PIIGS? I am sure your union bosses don't let you see the real news. You show me a socialist country that works for any length of time and I will show you a failed state. Germany ISN'T doing well, they are going broke supporting all the failing ones. Sweden is your best bet, if you don't mind paying 80% tax rate, its fine, but no incentive or initiative in a cradle to grave gov. run system where everyone is union. Even Volvo has left.
I'm a union man but that video is totally exaggerated and that much exaggeration only works for comedy and this isn't comedy. Take a clue from California's anti-smoking commercials.
~“Feeling”~ ~“led”~ almost ~“compelled”~ to ~“write”~ my(free)~“book”~ ~”DIVINE 9/11 INTERVENTON”~@ LOVEGODISLOVEdotORG ~“thusly”~ I ~“discovered”~ a ~“77”~ ~“alignment”~ of ~“seven...”~'s ~“hidden”~ in the book of ~“Revelation”~! Do you think ~“this”~ ~“physical evidence”~ of ~“Spiritual Intelligence”~(i.e.~“God”~)might cause more of ~“us”~ to sit up and take notice of what it ~“truly”~ means to ~“Love thy neighbour as thyself.”~! ~“Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.”~ A.Einstein
I'm not sure about this video. It seems too blatant and flip. I'm sure it would be much more effective if it were more subtle and with darker implications.
112%? If the union didn't negotiate, you would have higher wages and could purchase your own insurance.
Increasing the work day? It's a freaking federal law.
Same with child labor laws.
The merit thing... what the heck? How many of you union members know the few who hide, sleep, screw off, in the shitter all day, come in drunk, etc...etc... and they STILL make as much money as you do? That doesn't p!ss you off?
@Rotroable the very few. It doesn't happen where I work. I'm the shop steward and I would know about it. You've been watching too much Fox News. Unions are good for the working man. The problem is that you think that you're in the same class as the super rich but you don't make $500K/year so to them, you're just like us or somebody who has 10 kids and is on welfare. Wake up. Even if you make $300K/year, (which you don't) you're still just like us.
@Rotroable Yes , that pisses me off, and as a Union Steward, I have told employees who were the subject of a disciplinary hearing, "I can't make what you did wrong, right. If you break the rules, expect some problems. On the other hand, they can't punish you on an arbitrary basis---there is a procedure for management to terminate unproductive employees, but it takes work on the part of management.
I love these comments. Classic Dem reaction. If was a republican video there would be 100% positive comments and 10 times more. It's why we never get anything done.
@juddman7 Yes, I am quite sure that republicans are 100% positive toward the idea of longer work days, lower pay, no health care, and 12 year olds working 12 hour days.
@oakland2949 yes, after all, we can't have granddpa and grandma off having fun now can we. And that pesky Social Security. Well, if people don't have enough sense to save for retirement, well then, they just get what they deserve!
@fifigirlM People have been paying into the SS fund since 1935 and until 1990 or so, they believed that to be "saving for retirement." After about 1990, Congress allowed 401ks to "augment" savings for retirement.
That worked until 2008 when almost everyone's 401k value dropped by half. Interesting aside - even though the stock market is better than ever, our 401k value is still about half of what it should be.
Ahhh - forward to the past. BAck to the Gilded Age, such a GREAT time for ordinary workers when only 7 percent of the nation was middle class and 93 percent were poor. Let's put money into the pooooor corporation's pockets - it's worked SO well in the past.
Poor, like a crummy commercial. Misleading invitation to see real executives. A bit tedious. I'm liberal and totally pro-union but this misses the point. Large corporations are the most powerful forces in the Industrial--Military--Congressional complex today, and unless we all eventually bond together, their power will increase. We need an "American Spring."
@whispersinmorn - I'm in Illinois and I cannot believe what is happening in Wisconsin. So may lies in Wisconsin and Michigan. They are doing it here too, but we have Chicago so it will take them longer. Although, with Rahm Emmanuel in charge it might not take them so long. I wish you luck in your recall efforts!
@whispersinmorn - I'm in Illinois and I cannot believe what is happening in Wisconsin. So may lies. They are doing it here too, but we have Chicago so it will take them longer. Although, with Rahm Emmanuel in charge it might not take them so long. I wish you luck in your recall efforts!
I'M pro union but this video is DUMB. There are pleanty of REAL issues that point out much better why unions are NEEDED to protect workers and the middle-class which drives our economy. There are Bastards in Board Rooms but this missed the boat for me.
In making a dead peasants video, you could use such factors as snack contents of worker's lunches, daily count of cigarettes smoked, worker's apparent weight, hours worked, number of shift rotations and the nature of the employee's job to bet on the employee's survival. Also, the amount of money to be earned on each employee's death!
You folks really nailed it well! Great video! No doubt corporations also take an interest in the amount of money that employees contribute to 401K's and even consider the total balance in worker's accounts.
Michael Moore showed us that some employers actually take out "dead peasants" life insurance policies on their employees. I'd love to see you folks making a video about that too! You could bet on a worker's chances of dying over some period of time using pictures of your staff.
This is quite an interesting video. All one-sided discussion. It kind of reminds you of what will happen if you don't get involve in important things.
dayspeace 3 months ago
Well it looks like you unionists are all wrong! Greece is cutting your pensions by 20% and Italy is right behind! Pay your own fucking pensions and medical and get off the backs of the people that REALLY work!
Stiffroot 5 months ago
The AFL-CIO have devolved into back stabbing weasels. Feel sorry for you in 2012
Eatm308amA 8 months ago
Child labor? Where?
Eatm308amA 8 months ago
@Eatm308amA
UNICEF- An estimated 158 million children aged 5-14 are engaged in child labour - one in six children in the world.
wikipedia article titled "Child Labour":
In the 1990s every country in the world except for Somalia and the United States became a signatory to the Convention on the Rights of the Child, or CRC. Somalia eventually signed the convention in 2002; the delay of the signing was believed to been due to Somalia not having a government.
JeremysVideos2 8 months ago
@Eatm308amA
Wiki article "Child labor laws in the United States":
"Human rights organizations have documented child labor in USA. According to a 2009 petition by Human Rights Watch: "Hundreds of thousands of children are employed as farmworkers in the United States, often working 10 or more hours a day. They are often exposed to dangerous pesticides, experience high rates of injury, and suffer fatalities at five times the rate of other working youth."
Does that answer your question?
JeremysVideos2 8 months ago
@JeremysVideos2 Are those American citizens?
Eatm308amA 8 months ago
@Eatm308amA Your question wasn't whether child laborers were 'U.S. citizens' your "question" (more of a snide dismissal apparently) was: "Child labor? Where?" I thought you may have found the information that 1 in 6 children in the world - and several hundred thousand here in the U.S. - are child laborers and that many are working under the most deplorable of conditions as interesting and as appalling as I did but apparently you didn't because in your mind only "American citizens" matter.
JeremysVideos2 8 months ago
@JeremysVideos2 And your initial reply to me neglected to mention the children here in America are not American citizens. A close walk with dis-information on your part you socialist scum. So, apparently they either choose to be here or the parents force them to do so. Sounds like you should be bitching about the responsibilities of the parents that brought them here.
"but apparently you didn't because in your mind only "American citizens" matter.
My answer- Damn right. because you don't
Eatm308amA 8 months ago
@JeremysVideos2 I thought American unions were suppossed to be watching out for Amreican's jobs. Instead you fight for non American's rights in America. AFL-CIO is defined as "The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations"
You used to mean something to America. Now you are the enemy.
Eatm308amA 8 months ago
@JeremysVideos2 Why are you not bothering to bust the companies that hire them(USA only)? Just asking.
Eatm308amA 8 months ago
9 people wish they could be slaves.
Matryx 8 months ago
When one union gets screwed, we all eventually lose. Let's come together and make a difference!
TheExoSkeletonband 8 months ago
Do you people on the left ever get tired of whining and crying
gbmphillips 8 months ago
@gbmphillips it's just about treating people fairly. Get a life and stop being so angry. You'll get paid more and have better benefits as a result of the work unions are doing too.
andrewbacon 8 months ago
@andrewbacon Unions have never represented me and never will
gbmphillips 8 months ago
@gbmphillips They do, every good thing you take for granted about your job, you have because union members fought and died for it. You're just too closed minded to accept it. Doesn't change the fact.
andrewbacon 8 months ago 2
The voice of the opposition was glaring ... a point well made. GET OUT AND VOTE!
academicjock 8 months ago
Is that the kid from HGTV?
thumos33 8 months ago
I don't know about all Union negotiations, but I attended a workshop for Union Teachers that was a traing program on dealing with administration. One of the things stressed was having a plan in order before hand----if certain things were done by management, we were prepared to walk out until they indicated they were willing to negotiate in good faith. If they wouldn't even let us into the negotiations, have you ever heard of NLRB complaints?
dlberghuis13 8 months ago
I have sat in on collective bargaining sessions, and management always tries to ram unreasonable concessions down the workers throat. Thank God for the strong, educated and righteous labor leaders at every level who try to protect workers' rights, protect the middle class, and contribute to the economic health of the country.
sylasg17 8 months ago 3
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Idiots! unions and a "few" parasites are the only things dumb enough to kill their own host! Hows your membership thing going? If it wasn't for illegal aliens it would only be 3% of the workforce! Can you say "communism"? Well its bankrupting Europe and we are next, thx to you!
Stiffroot 8 months ago
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Idiots! unions and a "few" parasites are the only things dumb enough to kill their own host! Hows your membership thing going? If it wasn't for illegal aliens it would only be 3% of the workforce! Can you say "communism"? Well its bankrupty Europe and we are next, thx to you!
Stiffroot 8 months ago
@Stiffroot I have sat in on collective bargaining sessions, and management always tries to ram unreasonable concessions down the workers throat. Thank God for the strong, educated and righteous labor leaders at every level who try to protect workers' rights, protect the middle class, and contribute to the economic health of the country.
sylasg17 8 months ago
@Stiffroot Bankrupt Europe? Bankrupt Europe??? Ha ha ha ha ha!!! If you look at the wikipedia article for "states by current account balance". You'll see that many of the most financially solvent countries are IN EUROPE where trade unions are not discouraged. Oh look! There's Germany, #3. And Norway #5, and Switzerland #7. Where is the USA? Uh-oh! #191. One of the countries closest to bankruptcy. If unions kill their hosts, why are Germany and other union friendly countries doing so well?
TheWashingtonEagle 8 months ago 5
@TheWashingtonEagle Have you heard of PIIGS? I am sure your union bosses don't let you see the real news. You show me a socialist country that works for any length of time and I will show you a failed state. Germany ISN'T doing well, they are going broke supporting all the failing ones. Sweden is your best bet, if you don't mind paying 80% tax rate, its fine, but no incentive or initiative in a cradle to grave gov. run system where everyone is union. Even Volvo has left.
Stiffroot 8 months ago
I'm a union man but that video is totally exaggerated and that much exaggeration only works for comedy and this isn't comedy. Take a clue from California's anti-smoking commercials.
Vince
skepticab 8 months ago
@skepticab I'm in mgmt and it's not exaggerated by much.
blipperUT 8 months ago 2
Child labor - hilarious. But sadly, I think I already pay 112% of my healthcare so that was funny but painful cause its true!
HenryRGale 8 months ago 2
Employee's paying 110% of there Health Care? A reduction via For Profit Health Insurance Companies.... Cool.... smile :-)
Rixar13 8 months ago
~“Feeling”~ ~“led”~ almost ~“compelled”~ to ~“write”~ my(free)~“book”~ ~”DIVINE 9/11 INTERVENTON”~@ LOVEGODISLOVEdotORG ~“thusly”~ I ~“discovered”~ a ~“77”~ ~“alignment”~ of ~“seven...”~'s ~“hidden”~ in the book of ~“Revelation”~! Do you think ~“this”~ ~“physical evidence”~ of ~“Spiritual Intelligence”~(i.e.~“God”~)might cause more of ~“us”~ to sit up and take notice of what it ~“truly”~ means to ~“Love thy neighbour as thyself.”~! ~“Coincidence is God's way of remaining anonymous.”~ A.Einstein
a77white 8 months ago
I'm not sure about this video. It seems too blatant and flip. I'm sure it would be much more effective if it were more subtle and with darker implications.
cosmicsister 8 months ago
Right on!
acoronab 8 months ago
112%? If the union didn't negotiate, you would have higher wages and could purchase your own insurance.
Increasing the work day? It's a freaking federal law.
Same with child labor laws.
The merit thing... what the heck? How many of you union members know the few who hide, sleep, screw off, in the shitter all day, come in drunk, etc...etc... and they STILL make as much money as you do? That doesn't p!ss you off?
Rotroable 8 months ago
@Rotroable the very few. It doesn't happen where I work. I'm the shop steward and I would know about it. You've been watching too much Fox News. Unions are good for the working man. The problem is that you think that you're in the same class as the super rich but you don't make $500K/year so to them, you're just like us or somebody who has 10 kids and is on welfare. Wake up. Even if you make $300K/year, (which you don't) you're still just like us.
oakland2949 8 months ago
@Rotroable Yes , that pisses me off, and as a Union Steward, I have told employees who were the subject of a disciplinary hearing, "I can't make what you did wrong, right. If you break the rules, expect some problems. On the other hand, they can't punish you on an arbitrary basis---there is a procedure for management to terminate unproductive employees, but it takes work on the part of management.
dlberghuis13 8 months ago
The child labor thing is really funny. Just check recent news for the real story.
Look what's going on in Maine.
Spamdumpster2003 8 months ago
The items "negotiated" here aren't as far fetched as they may sound.
LucyLongtale 8 months ago 15
@LucyLongtale not at all.
blipperUT 8 months ago
I love these comments. Classic Dem reaction. If was a republican video there would be 100% positive comments and 10 times more. It's why we never get anything done.
juddman7 8 months ago
@juddman7 Yes, I am quite sure that republicans are 100% positive toward the idea of longer work days, lower pay, no health care, and 12 year olds working 12 hour days.
fifigirlM 8 months ago 3
@fifigirlM don't forget moving the retirement age to 67 or 70 and getting rid of Social Security.
oakland2949 8 months ago
@oakland2949 yes, after all, we can't have granddpa and grandma off having fun now can we. And that pesky Social Security. Well, if people don't have enough sense to save for retirement, well then, they just get what they deserve!
fifigirlM 8 months ago
@fifigirlM People have been paying into the SS fund since 1935 and until 1990 or so, they believed that to be "saving for retirement." After about 1990, Congress allowed 401ks to "augment" savings for retirement.
That worked until 2008 when almost everyone's 401k value dropped by half. Interesting aside - even though the stock market is better than ever, our 401k value is still about half of what it should be.
SallyBaughn 8 months ago
@fifigirlM I was being cynical. Doesn't sound like you are.
oakland2949 8 months ago
@oakland2949 I am being sarcastic, and I am VERY cynical about the dubious actionsof the Republicans.
fifigirlM 8 months ago
Ahhh - forward to the past. BAck to the Gilded Age, such a GREAT time for ordinary workers when only 7 percent of the nation was middle class and 93 percent were poor. Let's put money into the pooooor corporation's pockets - it's worked SO well in the past.
choicelady 8 months ago
Poor, like a crummy commercial. Misleading invitation to see real executives. A bit tedious. I'm liberal and totally pro-union but this misses the point. Large corporations are the most powerful forces in the Industrial--Military--Congressional complex today, and unless we all eventually bond together, their power will increase. We need an "American Spring."
JKneeBurton 8 months ago
@JKneeBurton That IS the point - corporations ARE the most powerful. We DO need to bond together, and it's the POINT of this ad.
choicelady 8 months ago
The future if we don't stop the right-wing war on labor.
sonjajh 8 months ago 22
@sonjajh
The future already is NOW in WI with Walker and his Repug poodles. He has said he has NOTHING to negotiate and he did not.
whispersinmorn 8 months ago
@whispersinmorn - I'm in Illinois and I cannot believe what is happening in Wisconsin. So may lies in Wisconsin and Michigan. They are doing it here too, but we have Chicago so it will take them longer. Although, with Rahm Emmanuel in charge it might not take them so long. I wish you luck in your recall efforts!
sonjajh 8 months ago
@whispersinmorn - I'm in Illinois and I cannot believe what is happening in Wisconsin. So may lies. They are doing it here too, but we have Chicago so it will take them longer. Although, with Rahm Emmanuel in charge it might not take them so long. I wish you luck in your recall efforts!
sonjajh 8 months ago
I'M pro union but this video is DUMB. There are pleanty of REAL issues that point out much better why unions are NEEDED to protect workers and the middle-class which drives our economy. There are Bastards in Board Rooms but this missed the boat for me.
frapiee 8 months ago
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findthelight2000 8 months ago
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@frapiee "I'M pro union but this video is DUMB."
It's meant to be dumb. It is what is called "satire". Despite it's "dumbness", you'd be surprised how true it is!
This is also representative of the Tea-Party Republican agenda.
findthelight2000 8 months ago
I wish this was better. Too over the top. Did not hit home for me. Should have included shipping jobs to China.
AieaAiea 8 months ago
Right on but too long.
alecdubro 8 months ago
In making a dead peasants video, you could use such factors as snack contents of worker's lunches, daily count of cigarettes smoked, worker's apparent weight, hours worked, number of shift rotations and the nature of the employee's job to bet on the employee's survival. Also, the amount of money to be earned on each employee's death!
Kritiker313 8 months ago 4
You folks really nailed it well! Great video! No doubt corporations also take an interest in the amount of money that employees contribute to 401K's and even consider the total balance in worker's accounts.
Michael Moore showed us that some employers actually take out "dead peasants" life insurance policies on their employees. I'd love to see you folks making a video about that too! You could bet on a worker's chances of dying over some period of time using pictures of your staff.
Kritiker313 8 months ago