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@talengtp real life and no duh its the closest thing on the market wow what are they beating nr2003 nascar 09 gran turismo lol not much competition to be the closest thing on the market
Well, Gregor Huttu the undisputed king of sim racing got to drive the SM and said the SM had more grip but overall was VERY similar. Which is something the tire model should fix.
@talengtp my own opinion is that your wrong on that. look at where we have come in just the last 10 years.. we went from 0% accuracy to within 1/1000th of an inch in all places.. soon.... very soon....
@AMPLIGHTNING Your asuming im paid by Iracing? I am infact a paying customer...and I would know Iracing is a very close simulation because I am a race car driver and ive raced in multiple series. INEX Legends, NASCAR Late Models, and Street Stocks to name a few.
@AMPLIGHTNING Your asuming im paid by Iracing? I am infact a paying customer...and I would know Iracing is a very close simulation because I am a race car driver and ive raced in multiple series. INEX Legends, NASCAR Late Models, and Street Stocks to name a few.
@AndersonRacing44 im talking about the bigger series the ones where the faster guys race like nationwide and cup the only way to be fast is if ur turning to the right in the corners
@AMPLIGHTNING You are correct on that part, The problem is not in how they designed the chassis, the problem is in the tire model. They havent calculated for acurate tire squash, tire deformation and how a tire reacts to different degrees of banking.
@AMPLIGHTNING JANUARY!!! I knew it was coming but not when... Januaries not too long too wait. I can't wait til it comes out and the aliens like Gregor Huttu will still be just as fast. Alot of people think guys like gregor will be slower but I doubt it.
yea it is realy good i use it but it does cost some money but u pay for what u get a good sim ......................... ohh and some ppl get like 6 or 700 doller wheels i just got one from ebay for like $30 and works just fine
what equipment are you using? (i.e. steering wheel and pedals, or a full rig? and can i get the name of it or a link to a website that sells it) im looking into starting to race, but i dont want to spend a fortune on a setup and then find out that theres something just as good or better for half the price... thnx in advance!
Well, my setup wouldn't be ideal for cost :) I'm using a Fanatec GT3 wheel, and a set of CST Pedals that run about $735. The pedals are worth every penny though, absolutely fantastic. But u dont need expensive gear to start. A Logitech G27 is plenty good enough, and even the cheaper DGFT (or something like that). It's certainly a lot cheaper than most hobbies.
@talengtp ohk. yeah i was doing some research the other day and i saw they had some full setups that are lyk mounted and have the seat and everything, and those are around $600... and i also was looking at the g27, only thing is i cant find them in stores anywhere, so im gonna look around and see where i can find it the cheapest... thanks for you help
Ok, im defenitely gonna try and get into this. Although quick question, do they have i racing for dirt track cars (sprints, midgets, dirt latemodels)? because if so, then im sold. if not, im gonna get into it when i get the chance regardless. xD
@Chenstrapftw Nah No dirt cars......but that would be somthing sweet, They do have pavement Silver Crown cars and by the end of the year or begining of next they will have Street Stocks
@3fan4eva interesting. Im gonna keep this in my mind and possibly get into it. If they come out with dirt cars, mostly dwarfs, sprints and midgets, then i will be in. lol
@Chenstrapftw Yeah It will be some time.....Ive heard it is very very dificult to scan dirt tracks.......also the series you start off in is Legend Cars....thats pretty much like the Dirt Dwarf Cars
Great clip. And to those who get hung up by the virtual drive looking so static, its only like that because this was recorded using a replay clip. At some camera angles the virtual driver is frozen. In game you get arm, wheel and head movement from g forces etc.
@xdownstreamx , When you say HE, do you mean the actual guy driving or the animation ?, if you mean the animation then yes, it doesn't show the steering wheel move in all replay camera modes.
Or do you actually think when you play this sim, your in cockpit looking at a static steering wheel ?.
@tomski6996 if that were true hundreds of racers from F1, Indy, NASCAR, Grand Am, V8SC, etc.., etc. wouldn't be using it as a training tool and for fun.
Maybe it doesn't quite compare, but it hands down does a better job than any other sim/game. The real world racer testimonials speak for themselves, and do so in much larger volumes than a magazine article about a new console game.
The hands do move typically. The only time they don't on iRacing is due to graphic settings being lowered or if you're watching the replay from someone else's car and not your own.
lol the video game version took out the real videoas car, replaced it with the shitty video game car. You can even see the wheels are the same, the road is the same and the shitty video games cars drivers hands dont move. FAKE FAKE FAKE!
Are you serious? The video on the right is 100% iRacing footage from the roll bar camera. The video on the left is 100% real footage from the Star Mazda series.
@talengtp Well... no... the GT and Forza games both have higher quality... BUT in terms of eye for detail in specific races iRacing would probably be better....
@brosius85 I don't know what u mean by "cardboard cutout graphics", but everything u see other than the people is exactly as it was at the real track at the moment they laser scanned it, including track side objects. Reason is to give drivers the exact visual cues they would get if they drove the real track. If u compare the trees at Laguna's corkscrew to real pictures, not only are the trees exact, but the actual branches of the tree (1 @ corkscrew is very crooked tree).
@talengtp makes fuck all sense, wtf is qunatity of a game? You gonna buy 10 copies of a game, thats what quantity means ... Quality of the physics and quality of graphics so lets fix that quote for you ..... Quality > Quality .....
One thing I just noticed about most of these comparison vids. The iRacing steering wheel is disabled. So a comparison of the driver imput can't be made. In the one vid that did have wheel move ment. iRacing driver was doing quite a bit more steering correction to keep up. Makes me wonder about the tire physics?
Even if the both videos would be real you couldnt make a good comparison of the driver input when going by the steering wheels movement, because you never drive a corner the same way twice. No matter how often somebody drives threw a corner its never the same way
What I said you can test out yourself, watch any onboard camera footage that contains more then 1 lap, you will see there will be slight differences in steering wheel movements at every corner for every lap. You never drive through a corner the same way twice, in any car on any track.
But you can get it so close that it looks the same, i know in karts that i have had telemetry where the diff. was so minimal that only the computer could tell.
It seems obvious to me, that while their positions in the track and track times are obviously similar (and of course, great job with the track design), the real lap driver is taking tighter corners and turns, but both cars are in the same position... isn't that an obvious flaw? is it any different now?
iRacing is (and probably always will be to some degree) a work in progress, and while driver animations are currently lacking, it's on the table. There are bigger fish to fry at the moment
thats to prevent someone learning from the others :) if the hands would be moving, you could copy his steering and improve your own times... thats the reason for that ;)
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So, what is the purpose of this comparison exactly? Just wonder what the relevance is. Is it fun to have your sim lap match up with the rl lap? Just a wonderin...
Why so many down votes? This is a very simple yet meaningful question. No, I didn't read the description, but I usually do them when posted for vids. In any case, thank you talentgp for keeping a cool lid.
The footage on the left is real life footage from John Edward's on board camera. The overall video is 30fps, but I'm not sure what FPS the real footage is. It's probably less than 30fps, which would explain the choppiness
No animations what so ever in the cockpit, not evening turning the wheel....pretty shitty since you pay for this game. Im sure the physics are great but wtf, seriously they should put more effort into animations to give a more real experience.
Those things are on the table and will come eventually. I think most would rather see the big ticket items they are working on and releasing rather than see them work on eyecandy. I do hate the cam view though due to the non-movement. The only reason I used it was because it's the closest angle to the real clip.
lrn2read. I never said one replaces the other. just that a hyper-realistic driving simulator is cheaper than track time and can be an effective learning tool. You act like pilots never use training simulators.
"hyper realistic simulator " is what marketing makes you believe. its just a PC game no different than WoW (subscription based) . A "Pilots" simulators costs thousands of dollars, and not for the hardware (that adds hundreds of thoudans of USD).
Every iRacing comparison video I see has the camera's set up differently... These two cars aren't even driving the same line, and the car in the sim version seems to turn in little bursts as compared to the smooth turning in the real video. I haven't tried iRacing yet but based on the videos I've seen so far the physics, although realistic in general, seem to be strange when it comes to the little details.
That's because I'm at best an average driver. I had smoother laps, but the one in the video was closest to matching the lap time of the real video. But judgment of a racing sim should never be based purely on video. If that were the case, then most of the consoles titles would seem to be the best out there. You really should try iRacing before forming an opinion.
Ya I'm actually considering trying it sometime whithin the next two weeks. I was just a bit skeptical because as you said video comparissons don't mean much. Testimonials don't prove much either, the chances that the people who made them drove any other sims are slim.
I'd agree about the professional driver testimonials on the website with a few exceptions, but there's quite a few professional drivers from many forms of motorspots registered and actively running.
Just so people know, I wasn't flaming the sim or anything. I actually think it looks very well rounded. I was just stating some points on my mind that I wanted answers to before spending $15 a month on this. The only reason I said those things was to see if there is anyone who agrees with such a point of view. Don't count it as an opinion since I have no right to make one without having tried iRacing first. I'm just trying to see if I can find any things I would dislike about it before buying.
iRacing makes rFactor, ARCA, NR2003 and GTR 1 & 2 feel like toys. Those are the other Sims I have hundreds of hours experience in.
I was incredibly skeptical about the pricing setup of iRacing.
However, after subscribing I have only ran each of those other sims once each, and only for about 5 mins each. I just couldn't get into them after iRacing.
I dunno, I used to think rFactor was complete trash (which it often is due to complete lack of quality control). But after I installed realfeel ffb and the legends mod I was very impressed. And I mean it felt better than nkPro and LFS to me. I'm curious how it compares to the iRacing legends cars, the handling charactaristics appear very similar.
I wouldn't call the Legends car the most realistic in the IRacing stable, but the Advanced Legend car is pretty similar to the mod if not a bit better.
Great Video, love this sort of stuff, thanks for taking the time to put it together
MaxxUK 5 months ago
is it better physics that gt5?
bencolecumbria1995 6 months ago
Would a Thrustmaster Ferrari F340 Force Feedback work?
ushra3 6 months ago
tires look different in iracing
saatana4 6 months ago
you need to have the real mazda sound overlay the iracing vid!
Please.
mickeynismocat 7 months ago
@mickeynismocat
The engine sound is from the real clip on the left, which came from the Star Mazda series website.
talengtp 7 months ago
iracing is to sims as shakespear is to english... sure u suck at it at first but when u get a grasp on it... it's beautiful... simply beautiful
CDUB8989 7 months ago
It's really incredible how accurate iRacing is!
DynamicsOfFlight 7 months ago
the car hardly moved at all, it was weird to me
DrakeS444 8 months ago
@DrakeS444 its just the video, this track in particular is really bumpy in game.
saintluke87 7 months ago
the only diffrence was the clouds
jeffg24LT21 8 months ago 2
Pretty impressive for a game, but it's far from cheap. Great tracks, though. It's tempting.
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jmsgolo 9 months ago
I just wish the cars in iRacing had better engine sounds, the Mazdas sound nothing like the real thing.
levethane 10 months ago
the only problem is the cars dont handle realistic only thing realistic is the tracks
AMPLIGHTNING 1 year ago
@AMPLIGHTNING
It's not 100% perfect, no sim ever will be, but it's closer than anything else on the market. What are you basing this on?
talengtp 1 year ago
@talengtp real life and no duh its the closest thing on the market wow what are they beating nr2003 nascar 09 gran turismo lol not much competition to be the closest thing on the market
AMPLIGHTNING 1 year ago
@talengtp
Well, Gregor Huttu the undisputed king of sim racing got to drive the SM and said the SM had more grip but overall was VERY similar. Which is something the tire model should fix.
coasterreal 11 months ago
@talengtp my own opinion is that your wrong on that. look at where we have come in just the last 10 years.. we went from 0% accuracy to within 1/1000th of an inch in all places.. soon.... very soon....
lilbro209 3 months ago
@AMPLIGHTNING i beg to differ bud.
AndersonRacing44 1 year ago
@AndersonRacing44 well just letting you know the drivers that arent getting paid by iracing are the ones saying it
AMPLIGHTNING 1 year ago
@AMPLIGHTNING Your asuming im paid by Iracing? I am infact a paying customer...and I would know Iracing is a very close simulation because I am a race car driver and ive raced in multiple series. INEX Legends, NASCAR Late Models, and Street Stocks to name a few.
AndersonRacing44 1 year ago
@AMPLIGHTNING Your asuming im paid by Iracing? I am infact a paying customer...and I would know Iracing is a very close simulation because I am a race car driver and ive raced in multiple series. INEX Legends, NASCAR Late Models, and Street Stocks to name a few.
AndersonRacing44 1 year ago
@AndersonRacing44 im talking about the bigger series the ones where the faster guys race like nationwide and cup the only way to be fast is if ur turning to the right in the corners
AMPLIGHTNING 1 year ago
@AMPLIGHTNING You are correct on that part, The problem is not in how they designed the chassis, the problem is in the tire model. They havent calculated for acurate tire squash, tire deformation and how a tire reacts to different degrees of banking.
AndersonRacing44 1 year ago
@AndersonRacing44 Yea I know we will see how the new tire model in January will effect it
AMPLIGHTNING 1 year ago
@AMPLIGHTNING JANUARY!!! I knew it was coming but not when... Januaries not too long too wait. I can't wait til it comes out and the aliens like Gregor Huttu will still be just as fast. Alot of people think guys like gregor will be slower but I doubt it.
quasiphatpaul 10 months ago
@quasiphatpaul its actually comming out in a few weeks i think 4 or 5
AMPLIGHTNING 10 months ago
looks even better now with the shadows, and the trees do not just pop up any more as you come up the hill at the Toe!
RichieW 1 year ago
yea it is realy good i use it but it does cost some money but u pay for what u get a good sim ......................... ohh and some ppl get like 6 or 700 doller wheels i just got one from ebay for like $30 and works just fine
sixtitles2 1 year ago
yea it is realy good i use it but it does cost some money but u pay for what u get a good sim
sixtitles2 1 year ago
would a logitech driving force GT wheel be ok for iracing?
marki61422 1 year ago
@marki61422
yes, It's actually a very good starter wheel.
talengtp 1 year ago
LOOKS SO REAL ! wow.
jawangnese 1 year ago
what equipment are you using? (i.e. steering wheel and pedals, or a full rig? and can i get the name of it or a link to a website that sells it) im looking into starting to race, but i dont want to spend a fortune on a setup and then find out that theres something just as good or better for half the price... thnx in advance!
8justin88 1 year ago
@8justin88
Well, my setup wouldn't be ideal for cost :) I'm using a Fanatec GT3 wheel, and a set of CST Pedals that run about $735. The pedals are worth every penny though, absolutely fantastic. But u dont need expensive gear to start. A Logitech G27 is plenty good enough, and even the cheaper DGFT (or something like that). It's certainly a lot cheaper than most hobbies.
talengtp 1 year ago
@talengtp ohk. yeah i was doing some research the other day and i saw they had some full setups that are lyk mounted and have the seat and everything, and those are around $600... and i also was looking at the g27, only thing is i cant find them in stores anywhere, so im gonna look around and see where i can find it the cheapest... thanks for you help
8justin88 1 year ago
Ok, im defenitely gonna try and get into this. Although quick question, do they have i racing for dirt track cars (sprints, midgets, dirt latemodels)? because if so, then im sold. if not, im gonna get into it when i get the chance regardless. xD
Chenstrapftw 1 year ago
@Chenstrapftw Nah No dirt cars......but that would be somthing sweet, They do have pavement Silver Crown cars and by the end of the year or begining of next they will have Street Stocks
3fan4eva 1 year ago
@3fan4eva interesting. Im gonna keep this in my mind and possibly get into it. If they come out with dirt cars, mostly dwarfs, sprints and midgets, then i will be in. lol
Chenstrapftw 1 year ago
@Chenstrapftw Yeah It will be some time.....Ive heard it is very very dificult to scan dirt tracks.......also the series you start off in is Legend Cars....thats pretty much like the Dirt Dwarf Cars
3fan4eva 1 year ago
Great clip. And to those who get hung up by the virtual drive looking so static, its only like that because this was recorded using a replay clip. At some camera angles the virtual driver is frozen. In game you get arm, wheel and head movement from g forces etc.
toretull 1 year ago
how realistic is this game?
how accurate is the tyre simulation etc
18PANA 1 year ago
-1 ...GT5 FTW!
he's not even turning the steering wheel XD
xdownstreamx 1 year ago 2
@xdownstreamx TARD !
V8Super1 1 year ago
@V8Super1 it's the truth...unfortuntly..he's not even turning the steering wheel lol
xdownstreamx 1 year ago
@xdownstreamx , When you say HE, do you mean the actual guy driving or the animation ?, if you mean the animation then yes, it doesn't show the steering wheel move in all replay camera modes.
Or do you actually think when you play this sim, your in cockpit looking at a static steering wheel ?.
V8Super1 1 year ago
@V8Super1
it's the animation...it's the same...the animation's not letting him steer the wheel..but in the end, yes it's the animation
xdownstreamx 1 year ago
shame the computer driver didn't move once evn though he's bombing it around a track
nerdkiller19 1 year ago
whats up with the tyres?? Real ones are narrower.
anttt69 1 year ago
the car on the left you Own though
99boyz 1 year ago
in the end its just a game....no comparison to the real thing.
tomski6996 1 year ago
@tomski6996 if that were true hundreds of racers from F1, Indy, NASCAR, Grand Am, V8SC, etc.., etc. wouldn't be using it as a training tool and for fun.
Maybe it doesn't quite compare, but it hands down does a better job than any other sim/game. The real world racer testimonials speak for themselves, and do so in much larger volumes than a magazine article about a new console game.
SuperColossal33 1 year ago
iRacing really need to sort the sound out. It's so weedy at the moment.
BigDuke6ixx 1 year ago
@BigDuke6ixx
They are currently working on a complete overhaul of the audio system. Sounds promising (pun intended)
talengtp 1 year ago
atleast the race car on the Left you could
own
99boyz 2 years ago
NICE hand movement
bandit25501 2 years ago 4
The hands do move typically. The only time they don't on iRacing is due to graphic settings being lowered or if you're watching the replay from someone else's car and not your own.
iRacingChrisWatkins 2 years ago
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i prefer forza or gt ;D
Pures2oo0 2 years ago
@Pures2oo0 Forza et al (all other console games) cannot hold a candle to a real racing sim such as iracing.
Sure it's fun. But it's nothing like these real sims.
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lol the video game version took out the real videoas car, replaced it with the shitty video game car. You can even see the wheels are the same, the road is the same and the shitty video games cars drivers hands dont move. FAKE FAKE FAKE!
Fichengafter 2 years ago
Are you serious? The video on the right is 100% iRacing footage from the roll bar camera. The video on the left is 100% real footage from the Star Mazda series.
talengtp 2 years ago 3
The new build is even better.
jonlennon1973 2 years ago
i like this :D this proves that they do laser scan each track
Tryphon34 2 years ago
look pretty cool would be nice if you could have almost unlimited choices of real road and track cars from the world thou like GT and Forza
oxcide101 2 years ago
Quality > Quantity.
talengtp 2 years ago 14
on that quality part the need to pump up the car modeling a bit but you are correct
oxcide101 2 years ago
Besides, iracing is always growing in quantity.
megahurtz30 2 years ago
@talengtp Well... no... the GT and Forza games both have higher quality... BUT in terms of eye for detail in specific races iRacing would probably be better....
Gamez4Lif3 1 year ago
@talengtp carboard cutout graphics in not what i would refer to as "quality" no matter how real it drives
brosius85 1 year ago
@brosius85 I don't know what u mean by "cardboard cutout graphics", but everything u see other than the people is exactly as it was at the real track at the moment they laser scanned it, including track side objects. Reason is to give drivers the exact visual cues they would get if they drove the real track. If u compare the trees at Laguna's corkscrew to real pictures, not only are the trees exact, but the actual branches of the tree (1 @ corkscrew is very crooked tree).
talengtp 1 year ago
@brosius85
What a stupid post.
Pleb1an 1 year ago
@brosius85 it looks bad but thats just because he as a slower computer and cant have the class 1 graphics.
BryanKeske 1 year ago
@talengtp makes fuck all sense, wtf is qunatity of a game? You gonna buy 10 copies of a game, thats what quantity means ... Quality of the physics and quality of graphics so lets fix that quote for you ..... Quality > Quality .....
revox2006 1 year ago
One thing I just noticed about most of these comparison vids. The iRacing steering wheel is disabled. So a comparison of the driver imput can't be made. In the one vid that did have wheel move ment. iRacing driver was doing quite a bit more steering correction to keep up. Makes me wonder about the tire physics?
Howie47 2 years ago
Even if the both videos would be real you couldnt make a good comparison of the driver input when going by the steering wheels movement, because you never drive a corner the same way twice. No matter how often somebody drives threw a corner its never the same way
teamphat 2 years ago
You dont race do you teamphat
vivaSchumi7 1 year ago
Raced open wheelers when I was younger.
What I said you can test out yourself, watch any onboard camera footage that contains more then 1 lap, you will see there will be slight differences in steering wheel movements at every corner for every lap. You never drive through a corner the same way twice, in any car on any track.
teamphat 1 year ago
But you can get it so close that it looks the same, i know in karts that i have had telemetry where the diff. was so minimal that only the computer could tell.
vivaSchumi7 1 year ago
It seems obvious to me, that while their positions in the track and track times are obviously similar (and of course, great job with the track design), the real lap driver is taking tighter corners and turns, but both cars are in the same position... isn't that an obvious flaw? is it any different now?
dbneon 2 years ago
hand movment needed
BUT I LIKE
pushitrecords 2 years ago
the tires are not nice but its realy realistic
roy1990NL 2 years ago
I dont like steady hands, thats makes all the rest worthless.
truthfinder33 2 years ago
iRacing is (and probably always will be to some degree) a work in progress, and while driver animations are currently lacking, it's on the table. There are bigger fish to fry at the moment
talengtp 2 years ago
thats to prevent someone learning from the others :) if the hands would be moving, you could copy his steering and improve your own times... thats the reason for that ;)
grinmaster1 2 years ago
Same here :)
Tuscopa 2 years ago
Too bad his hands are not moving
trepxtrechi 2 years ago
Very nice video, can see that sim-devs have a lot of work 2 do, but a lot of work is done already.
Очень хорошее видео, можем видеть, что разрабам симов еще предстоит сделать многое, но и многое уже сделано.
csfnau 2 years ago
el realismo del circuito acomparacion del real es imprecinante
MarvinSag 2 years ago
the clouds look very close to original vid ;)
sneer 2 years ago
I live buy this track. Its sweet. 20 bucks to race around 3 laps.
RMER14889 2 years ago
That is absolutely brilliant.. must try this game post haste.
RichieW 2 years ago
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So, what is the purpose of this comparison exactly? Just wonder what the relevance is. Is it fun to have your sim lap match up with the rl lap? Just a wonderin...
alpsalish 2 years ago
The purpose is to showcase how closely the in game track matches the real life track, specifically the location of the track side objects.
talengtp 2 years ago
Yes.
HiredGoonage 2 years ago
Why so many down votes? This is a very simple yet meaningful question. No, I didn't read the description, but I usually do them when posted for vids. In any case, thank you talentgp for keeping a cool lid.
alpsalish 2 years ago
quick question why is the footage on the left so darn choppy? was it not recorded at 30 FPS or is that the way the game looks?
Shabo328 2 years ago
The footage on the left is real life footage from John Edward's on board camera. The overall video is 30fps, but I'm not sure what FPS the real footage is. It's probably less than 30fps, which would explain the choppiness
talengtp 2 years ago
It's not choppy the track is just bumpy.
No1snYpeslikme 2 years ago
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deggis4 3 years ago
no they don't afaik
Y2K1MASTER 3 years ago
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No animations what so ever in the cockpit, not evening turning the wheel....pretty shitty since you pay for this game. Im sure the physics are great but wtf, seriously they should put more effort into animations to give a more real experience.
Chad711m 3 years ago
Those things are on the table and will come eventually. I think most would rather see the big ticket items they are working on and releasing rather than see them work on eyecandy. I do hate the cam view though due to the non-movement. The only reason I used it was because it's the closest angle to the real clip.
talengtp 3 years ago
There were always wheel animations in game, I think its even in replays now.
Ragingcroc 2 years ago
All other driving games are like horseshit compared to this game.
Bad thing is it costs way too much.
unreal607 3 years ago
cheaper than track time...
jmurockstar 2 years ago 2
@jmurockstar
haha keep believing you can replace track time with a PC game.
DonLduk 1 year ago
@DonLduk
lrn2read. I never said one replaces the other. just that a hyper-realistic driving simulator is cheaper than track time and can be an effective learning tool. You act like pilots never use training simulators.
jmurockstar 1 year ago
@jmurockstar
"hyper realistic simulator " is what marketing makes you believe. its just a PC game no different than WoW (subscription based) . A "Pilots" simulators costs thousands of dollars, and not for the hardware (that adds hundreds of thoudans of USD).
DonLduk 1 year ago
Great vid Doug !
simracingtonight 3 years ago 7
Every iRacing comparison video I see has the camera's set up differently... These two cars aren't even driving the same line, and the car in the sim version seems to turn in little bursts as compared to the smooth turning in the real video. I haven't tried iRacing yet but based on the videos I've seen so far the physics, although realistic in general, seem to be strange when it comes to the little details.
SparkySubie 3 years ago
That's because I'm at best an average driver. I had smoother laps, but the one in the video was closest to matching the lap time of the real video. But judgment of a racing sim should never be based purely on video. If that were the case, then most of the consoles titles would seem to be the best out there. You really should try iRacing before forming an opinion.
talengtp 3 years ago
Ya I'm actually considering trying it sometime whithin the next two weeks. I was just a bit skeptical because as you said video comparissons don't mean much. Testimonials don't prove much either, the chances that the people who made them drove any other sims are slim.
SparkySubie 3 years ago
I'd agree about the professional driver testimonials on the website with a few exceptions, but there's quite a few professional drivers from many forms of motorspots registered and actively running.
talengtp 3 years ago
Just so people know, I wasn't flaming the sim or anything. I actually think it looks very well rounded. I was just stating some points on my mind that I wanted answers to before spending $15 a month on this. The only reason I said those things was to see if there is anyone who agrees with such a point of view. Don't count it as an opinion since I have no right to make one without having tried iRacing first. I'm just trying to see if I can find any things I would dislike about it before buying.
SparkySubie 3 years ago
iRacing makes rFactor, ARCA, NR2003 and GTR 1 & 2 feel like toys. Those are the other Sims I have hundreds of hours experience in.
I was incredibly skeptical about the pricing setup of iRacing.
However, after subscribing I have only ran each of those other sims once each, and only for about 5 mins each. I just couldn't get into them after iRacing.
Its like comparing Grand Prix 1 with rFactor :D
Zadan 3 years ago 4
I dunno, I used to think rFactor was complete trash (which it often is due to complete lack of quality control). But after I installed realfeel ffb and the legends mod I was very impressed. And I mean it felt better than nkPro and LFS to me. I'm curious how it compares to the iRacing legends cars, the handling charactaristics appear very similar.
SparkySubie 3 years ago
I wouldn't call the Legends car the most realistic in the IRacing stable, but the Advanced Legend car is pretty similar to the mod if not a bit better.
Ragingcroc 2 years ago
The fucking trees are in the same position!!! AWESOME. 5/5
darkest9 3 years ago 6
ok...next time, try to hit the apex more often.
:-P
dabona1 3 years ago
Thanks Tom O for posting this one in the JRL group. The vid speaks volumes, and I mean that. So many good points about it, far too many to list.
It's spooky.
Yooo Demon :)
Mox3d 3 years ago
Awesome! Now imagine what Doug's gonna do once he gets decent replay tools?
DemonDNF 3 years ago
Great googly moogly, that is awesome.
killmodell 3 years ago
Wow.
fish998765432 3 years ago