@zeustruth Actually I had to go to sleep. It's what I do when I'm tired. Forgive me. and no again you proved nothing that website had NO SOURCE for mithra calling himself the way the truth and the light *sighs* Let me tell you how this works You cant just direct me to other pople who say "Oh yeah christ is mithra " You need to prove it! show me in the persian mithra story that it is said! You have proven absolutely nothing other than that you can not source check for yoursef.
@Christmysaviour1 And the burden of proof is on you. I dont go around on youtube saying mithra isnt real trolling. YOU do. so PROV WHAT YOUR SAYING. Jeez Seriously it isnt that hard to do.
@zeustruth And discount all the historical evidence for a man named Jesus. Then you gota discount the eye witness testimony of the people who were closest to him. yeah then I guess after all that evidence is gone then sure there is no evidence *rolls eyes*
@Christmysaviour1 I would invite you to common sense..but that with you is dead LOL, poor fella you are :) no knowledge..no nothing.....hey come to think of it i am the only one proving this to you...prove to me your jesus exist? NOW i'll be the lazy one.
@Christmysaviour1 BUT i did prove to you that MITHRA did called himself the way, the light and so one...fact..and much more...which you asked for i might add...want me go back and tell you what you said? hmmmm
@Christmysaviour1 thats what i figured LOL, your a christain.....i showen you proven facts yet you still say everything i gave you is wrong...thats what christains do after all..they stick by to the dead man on a stick even thr truth is infront OF them...
@Christmysaviour1 whats the MOST ridiculous is your jesus LOL..beliving in a dead man on a stick....really now...theres NO proven facts that he ever existed..there MIGHT have been a guy name jesus but thats a far cry from being a GOD LMFAO.
@Christmysaviour1 OH one more thing befor i go, your god...your religion...your faith had murderd more people more than hitler & stallon combined! even rape tortred so on so forth...again look at the links...OH am not gonna stop oh now this is a begaing son, i wil spread the real truth about christainity and bring it down to its knees :) have a nice evening.
@Christmysaviour1 I'll call that the *bible* burning day..its a thing that i thought up with which will catch on hahahahaha, sooo yeah...sooo enjoy your bible thumping ways while i burn this so called *holy* good book here.....what gets me is why the hell is this book black...? i mean for such a HOLY book should atleast be white with NO cross on it because its a Pagan tools.
@zeustruth Furthermore Lucifer was Satans name when he had not fallen so it would be safe to assume that God would give him a name as beautiful as Day star bringer of light morning star but after his fall he ceased to be the morning star and rather became the adversary or Satan.
@royallove23 It pains me to see you say that. I am going to wipe the dust off my sandals and leave this alone. You WILL confess that and so will satan that is a promise Jehovah has made. Back to what I was saying PROVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. show me in history. Lucifer is mentioned in the book of Isaiah some 600 years before the Greeks so it is obvious who copied from who
@Christmysaviour1 dont let it pain you i feel no pain and i think that you have to dust off way more than you sandals i will remain to laugh at you to hard and so long youwill never catch me giving in to your fakeness NOT EVER the entire bible is a damn lie and you like a damn fool believe it WTF is wrong with you greeks are pagans they do not believe in the fake dead man on a stick you call jesus and you do not own me so go on your merry way and depart
@Christmysaviour1 we do not FEAR your god that does not exist...we know the truth...the reason you are leaving is because YOU LOST...we proved you wrong...want more proven facts? goto MY other channel zeustruth.....on that channel you see TONS of facts..history and shit...you christains what you are...is shit..and i can smell you a mile away.
@Laszroth he should give in already he knows hes wrong and their is no proof that his fake jesus fish exists the only thing they have is the bible the book of lies
@Laszroth Look. I'm not running. I'm right here. Show me this evidence. I dont want to go to your channel just show me right now right here. Okay? Sounds good. Oh FYI. You not fearing my God matters not to me. Remember this, the Pharoah in egypt said the same thing. He never learnt his lesson either.
@Christmysaviour1 we already did that you just refused to look deep into it typical for a christian to do because they believe so hard on faith that this fake jesus exists and he does not
@Christmysaviour1 BTW i'll be going onto my main account, i have tons of sites to show you with proven history BTW.. :) Laughing my ass off here LOL you dumb fucker.
@zeustruth And Christians are supposed to be trash, please for the purpose of an intellectual debate how about you back of with the trash mouth it makes you look like you have a ,limited vocabulary and low mental capacity
@Christmysaviour1 you just said christians are supposed to be trash SO RIGHT THERE YOU SAID THEY ARE SHIT so wtf are you still doing arguing with us !
@Christmysaviour1 The Bright Morning Star goes to the misnomer of "Lucifer", which is an incorrect title for Satan or the Devil taken from the King James Version of Isaiah 14:12. Were it not for this odd transliteration, "Lucifer" would not exist as a term in English, and there would be no confusion on the matter. As it is, we need to be careful, I would suggest, in
@Christmysaviour1 using the term to describe who the Bible calls "Satan" or "the Devil". Most Christians are onto this, yet still the term "Lucifer" persists. In any case, the "morning star" is the title of Christ throughout the rest of Scripture.
@Christmysaviour1 2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts
Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."
Since it is clear that Jesus is the "Bright Morning Star" (even said so Himself) then how should we understand Isaiah 14:12?
@Christmysaviour1 Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, .
@Christmysaviour1 Theres many more links ON MY *C-h-a-n-n-e-l* IF you are not too lazy to check em out that is..if you do not that makes you a bigger fool because i proved you wrong...so go on i'll wait.
@Christmysaviour1 OH and i am always updating the links with new ones...so you might wanna check back as well......But i know you will call those links *info* lies..because you are a christain after all.
@Christmysaviour1 OH and Mithra so you know came BEFOR christ...ummmm yeah...same names like the light...the way...so on so forth. u yeah soooo...i shall wait for you here i'll i chat with Royallove of slype and laughing our ass off here.
@zeustruth leave it to a stupid pathetic christian to think he knows it all he couldnt be more wrong about everything he said or will try to say to defend the fake christ on a stick
@Christmysaviour1 I just did you moron are you to fucking blind or to damn stuid to see this or for that matter read? of let me guess....like i said befor...your a christain who would continue to say the word LIE when it is the TRUTH...you a dead weight here that holds nothing you are sinking so deeply that you think every site on my channel is a lie..sorry KID your dead wrong...
@zeustruth No you may think you are right but you are mistaken. If you're having trouble with this one how about you prove that Mithra held the tietles of the way the truth the light the redeemer etc etc
@Christmysaviour1 The Vatican was built upon the grounds previously devoted to the worship of Mithra (also known as Mithras) (600 B.C.). The Orthodox Christian hierarchy is nearly identical to the Mithraic version. Virtually all of the elements of Orthodox Christian rituals, from miter, wafer, water baptism, alter, and doxology, were adopted from the Mithra and earlier pagan mystery religions. The religion of Mithra preceded Christianity by roughly six hundred years
@zeustruth Here we go again. The vatican being built on the ground iof mithraic worship proves nothing other than that the Catholic church was pagan at heart something I agree with. And yes mithraic worship is older than christ but shiow me where it has similar stories of christ?
@Christmysaviour1 Mithra was called "the good shepherd,” "the way, the truth and the light,” “redeemer,” “savior,” “Messiah." He was identified with both the lion and the lamb.
@zeustruth Santa Claus lives in the north pole. He has 40 elves that massage his feet at night. See how stupid that sounds, without giving any proof. Show me their source buddy oh wait you have none Ive had this arguement with tons of people they never can back this one up so go ahead try your best :)
@Christmysaviour1 dude i had trouble with laptop stalling me had to reboot....like you dont know this LOL stupid one...it is in history....want the link?
@zeustruth Well I did something you should learn to do. Source checking! Alot of the sources are rediculous like Acharya S who is basically no source shes a luaghing stock. Franz cumont is a bit more reputable but even he admits that most mithraic lore presenting any smiliarites were from ROMAN MITHRAISM which was 4 centuries AFTER CHRIST. there is no evidence of the origianl PERSIAN MITHRAISM having any of those beliefs which is what you would expect when Christianity was sweeping the world.
@Christmysaviour1 thats where you are wrong there :) we are laughing our asses at you how stupid you are...i just called my friends..their here now, they are watching as i type they to are laughing at you LOL you have no idea...keep on believing your fairy tails.....maybe on day you MIGHT convence the whole world about this LOL...sorry failed.
@zeustruth hahahahahahahha yep in a sec i will be doing just that to get out a good laugh and you might have fun telling him about me new found life just do not sa
@Christmysaviour1 OHHH btw, i am gonna make a new video on youtube soons...burning the bible to see how well it burns for a *holy* book...that gives a whole new meaning.
@zeustruth oh you forgot to mention that jesus walks on water full body and flesh HOW THE FUCK impossible can he run through a ring of fire as well ? lmfao ?
Again you have proven you know nothing. You need to go to school and learn a thing or two. Addmitedly my understanding of the greek Stauros is very limited right now but regardless think about it he was crucified under the rule of rome if THEY had a pagan meaning for the cross what does that have to do with Jesus? You have proven nothing of the sorts. You have not shown me where in HISTORY can we see before christ the parallels of his story.
@Christmysaviour1 i am not your slave you idiot this isnt the past where you own others..sad for you christains eh? that you can not own a slave now can you? you are slaves to your own god..jesus is never will ever be real no matter how you say it..the bible is Shit..so many errors so many ways......even your bible proves that there isnt a god LOL ...you didshits amazes me...i will not be bowing down to no fake ass god like yours..the only thing you have is blood on your hands.
@Christmysaviour1 your the one who has no knowledge here.....your the one who does NOT research to know....i am the only one whos giving you facts & history & royallove..yet you are calling everything we say which is fact just by google it on your own...are you that stupid or lazy? has your religion that Pathetic?
@Laszroth thats because he is to stupid and afraid just like the rest of the pussies he calls his people who are all in fact lying to his stupid ass as he sucks the shit from out of theirs
@Laszroth Look buddy/ I never said you were my slave. Simply that the ammount of evidence for the bible is staggering prove to me that it isnt true? Even world famous athiests like Richard Dawkins admit that Jesus existed. You dont want to believe fine dont. but dont say that thats what history teaches because it is not. I'm gonna put this in simple terms for you to understand. SHOW ME WHERE IN HISTORY THAT CHRISTIANITY BORROWED FRoM PAGANISM> or stop spouting nonsense.
@Christmysaviour1 BTW i have gone face to face with a christain and proved them wrong every time, you are no difrent here...which in this case you are running away like a roach, its okay i understand...Pagan religion is coming back and we'll see to it that your religion is in the dust.
@Laszroth LOOK IM RIGHT HERE> jeez. Pagan religion has always been here you are just another cog in Satans machine. Remember Babylon they fell because of their beliefs. If you wish to worship a creautre that the almighty created instead of the Creator himself so be it. I am not trying to convert you anymore just defending my faith in Jesus Christ agains tslanderous accusations from pagans.
@Christmysaviour1 paganism was here before christianity get the point already loko things up and stop being blind as you are doing a very good job at it
@Christmysaviour1 LOL yes you did call me a slave..you are TOO LAZY to look things up..you wanted e to prove it to you time and time again..what i do? i did just that.....yet you are calling history & facts lies...which right there IS calling one a slave...gratz. you just proven yet another of my points that christains are indeed trash now.
@Laszroth Okay. did you not read my rebuttal to EVERY ONE OF YOUR POINTS. Normally in a debate you try to rebutt my rebuttal. So please feel free or back off.
@Christmysaviour1 Traditionally, Lucifer ( /ˈluːsɪfər/ or /ljuːsɪfər/) is a name that in English generally refers to the Devil or Satan before being cast from Heaven, although this is not the original meaning of the term. In Latin, from which the English word is derived, Lucifer (as a noun) means "light-bearer" (from the words lucem ferre). It was the name given to the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, which heralds daylight.
@Christmysaviour1 For this meaning, English generally uses the names "Morning Star" or "Day Star", and rarely "Lucifer".
Use of the name "Lucifer" for the Devil stems from applying to the Devil what Isaiah 14:3–20 says of a king of Babylon whom it calls Helel (הֵילֵל, Shining One), a Hebrew word that refers to the Day Star or Morning Star (the Latin term[2] for which is lucifer)[3] In 2 Peter
@Christmysaviour11:19 and elsewhere, the same Latin word lucifer is used to refer to the Morning Star, with no relation to the Devil. In Revelation 22:16, Jesus himself is called the Morning Star, but not "Lucifer", even in Latin.
It is uncertain when precisely the Isaiah passage, which in its Latin
@Christmysaviour1 translation contains the name "Lucifer", began to be applied to Satan, but it was certainly used in this way by 3rd-century Origen,[4] and some scholars claim that the identification of "Lucifer" with the Devil was first made by Origen, Tertullian and Augustine of Hippo.[5]
@Christmysaviour1 BTW i am NOT your buddy, son...i dont know where you got that idea that i am your buddy thats a far FAAAAAARRRRRRR cry from being so.
@Christmysaviour1 and it PAINS me sooo deeply that....jesus was called morning star in the bible...hmmmm i wonder whs the *morning star* really is...what or who is this morning star they speak of? hmmm :) sorry son you lost.
@Laszroth What a luaghable point. You are of course reffering to the NIV translation of the Bible which refers to Lucifer as the Morning Star and to Jesus as the Morning Star. But that is a horrible translation and a pagan corrupt one at that ( addmitedley the translators were pagan) The actual text refers to Lucifer as the Son of the morning and Jesus as the Morning Star.
@royallove23 Like I said my brother I hope you turn away from Satan but regardless you AND satan will have to bow down and confess that Jesus is the lord. You obviously know nothing about paganism because the concept of lucifer is originally from the old testament. You can't prove any of what you are saying . Remember Satan doesn't reward his followers..
@Christmysaviour1 I AM NOT YOUR FUCKING BROTHER AND I AM NOT A MAN and you will never see me or satan himself bow down to that piece of shit fake jesus of yours actually Lucifer is the pagan god Hades and yes he does he is who gave me my new life and new man so to me he is the good so i would say he did a good deed for me and Luciefer as you asshole christians call him is part of the greek religion so the old testament my ass he goes back... way back
@royallove23 You seem to have some problem with the ten commandments so that goes to show how troubled you really are. If you want to go hail satan then so be it. Just know that its never too late to turn back and at one point EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tounge shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. That includes you.
@Christmysaviour1 ya i do have a problem with them would you like to know what the problem is ? the problem is they exist in every god damn <- place you idiots call holy their even in a court room PATHETIC ! and everything on it is common sense so why do they exist to be thrown in people safes and dont pick on Satan you dont know and never will know who he is if you want to find out look up who Lucifer is and your Lucifer is the Pagan god Hades i dont want to be included in your fake religion
@Christmysaviour1 which is really nothing but a ( CULT ) you keep forgetting MAN wrote the bible lol you might want to go back into the bible and real the entire thing because it is nothing but EVIL christianity has more blood on its hands than any religion and you cant deny that if you do your a fool wait we already covered that part -.- Ave Satanas!
@royallove23 All you have to do to prove it is show in history where they borrowed from paganism. You can even make money doing it take the zeitgeist challenge! And as for living out lives we live our lives in accordance with gods will and his commandments
From the way you are posting you seem to be a little child who can't stand being wrong. There is mountains of archeological evidence supporting the bible. You claim that Christianity borrowed from paganism well PROVE IT. it is a very simple thing to do!
I have an idea for you. How about you take the zeitgeist challenge. You get 1000 dollars for proving this sort of stuff! It should be a piece of pie for you right :) and FYI I never said that paganism didn't exist before Christianity but that Christians did not borrow from the pagan religions. Instead what we see is post Christ you have pagan regions copying Christianity! So please learn how to research and learn the truth.
@Christmysaviour1 you are a JOKE you know that john boy? you better GOOGLE this befor posting such claims thats not true..christinity DID steal pagan religion which we have PROVEN facts with history and all people back this up... shell i post this info on here to make YOU like an asshole? your doing a great job on that yourself.
@Christmysaviour1 In searching out the biblical understanding of what Yeshua (Jesus), was crucified on (the traditional Christian cross), I have found that there is no biblical evidence for it, whether the small 't' cross, or the capitalized (T). Criminals and such were sometimes crucified on a pole or stake, with a cross piece to make it a 't,' for there are records of such in ancient literature, but the 'cross' that Jesus was crucified on,
@Christmysaviour1 gives us no biblical grounds for assuming that it was any kind of 't.' From the Greek New Testament, the word that our English translates as 'cross', is a piece of wood that is a stake or a pole, that's all. And many times it's just called a tree (KJV: Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29; Gal. 3:13; 1st Pet. 2:24).
@Christmysaviour1 have also come to see that the traditional Christian cross was taken from the pagans. Its form or letter (T or t), symbolized Tammuz, the major pagan god of the ancient world. In Vine's Dictionary, under 'cross, crucify' it has this:
'stauros (4716) denotes, primarily, 'an upright pale or stake.' On such malefactors were nailed for execution. Both the noun and the verb (sta-roo), 'to fasten to a stake or pale,' are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two beamed 'cross.' The shape of the latter had its origin in ancient Chaldea' (Babylon), 'and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the initial of his name), .'
first off i dont have to prove anything to you if you know what came first PAGANISM DID and yes i have done repeatedly but your just afraid to admit i am right why because your a christian who believes in a god that MAN made up himself which is very gullible of you and stupid (
httSLASHp:SLASHSLASHsocybertyDOTcomSLASHspiritualitySLASHpaganism-vs-christianitySLASH ) pick that apart and then eat it so READ IT WELL !
In the Persian version of the Mithra story, he has one disciple, Varuna. In the Roman version, he has two, Cautes and Cautopatres. The source for this claim seems to be an old carving of Mithra slaying a bull while 12 people watch on. That these 12 people are companions or disciples is not suggested, and besides, this carving dates to post-Christian times anyways, so if they WERE meant to be disciples of some sort, they were likely influenced by Christianity, not the other way around.
@Christmysaviour1 you are a brainless wonder and again christian is still christian you might want to learn your history so until you do... you will be ignored so have fun talking to yourself and thinking in your own little imaginary fairy tale world again no one can trust a christitan they are not reliable
@royallove23 First of all. Lets drop the ad hominem attacks? Alright now that we got that out of the way, you need to PROVE what your saying with FACTS. My faith is irrelevant, you have to show me within history that Christianity has Mithraic roots. Which you have not done. So do not call me a brainless wonder, after being faced with facts you just blindly turn away. Who is the one operating on blind faith ?
Oh I coudlnt find when you mention that Mithra had 12 disciples but ill disprove thats here:In the Persian version of the Mithra story, he has one disciple, Varuna. In the Roman version, he has two, Cautes and Cautopatres. The source for this claim seems to be an old carving of Mithra slaying a bull while 12 people watch on.
God is good, he's so good, he better then Good, God is so good he puts the good in good! Breath deep, take a deep deep breath, feel that good feeling of the air filling your lungs , mmmm , Good is so good he's the breath of life itself, mmmmmm, man God is good!!
@zeustruth this should be funny lol i cant wait to see all the shitty comments you get from these asshole christians which can only mean more fun for us :)
"When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves." (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)
"You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you." (Deuteronomy 28:53)
"The Lord said to Joshua [...] 'you are to hamstring their horses.' " (Exceedingly cruel.) (Joshua 11:6)
"I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." (Leviticus 26:22)
"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man." (Numbers 31:17-18)
"The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women" (Ezechial 9:4-6)
known fact christians hate everything that is not of christianity you idiots call it all the devil but you have no idea who Hades really is do you nope so another transformed thing because of christianity YOUR PRECIOUS JESUS = Mythras YOUR MARY = Atermis your paul transformed into saul is really HERMES and Barnabas in the bible is the greek god ZEUS ! so you christiand are nothing but thieves and lier's those are all greek gods/goddess
@royallove23 known fact.. none christians try so so so hard to get US christians down.. if you dont believe in god why are you so afraid that WE live a very good and loving life ?
@XXXstuppiXXX no we non christians state facts about how fake you christians really are and you dont like it well isn't this to bad because we state the truth to you ...you say we try to push our religion on you known FACT you christians have no idea wth you are talking about and another known fact is your scared your life is nothing but a meaningless LIE ( Christianity, a Plagiarised Version of Mithraism ) <<--- look this up on google to see exactly how fake your religion is
@XXXstuppiXXX lets get something straight right now i do not like christians at all because they follow fake teaching and think who the fuck they are and you assholes are the ones who try to force this cult you call a religion down our throats look up on here a tv commercial i saw 2 nights ago( The Faith Dome Quiz DOT com ) asking for nothing but money and it repeated it self twice back to back THE TABS DONATE AND STORE right next to eachother
@XXXstuppiXXX so do not tell me christianity are not thieves murderers lier's because i posted true facts on 1 of their pages and instantly i was blocked from all their video's and the 1 i was blocked on first you can not even rate on it now and i never got a reply back saying i was wrong so which tells me i am right and they know it which is the real reason i was blocked
@XXXstuppiXXX I cant not even say what i want to here because i am to busy laughing at you. 1. LEARN HOW TO SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH
2. NICE TRY BUT THERE REALLY IS NO JESUS
and 3 i i have to quote you on ( i'd rather live a christian life and find out that there was nothing, than live just as i want and find out that i'd be going to hell for ETERNITY!)
SO you would rather waste your life just to end up in a box under dirt while you could have been living your life to the fullest
@XXXstuppiXXX i dont thiink you christians fully understand your shitty bible and your shitty religion which btw is a ( CULT ) AND everything in christianity is PAGAN so you might want to go die right now because that right there is the biggest clue that your jesus is not real :) but Satan must be real since all you christians run because your so afraid of him LIVE YOUR LIFE! Ave Satanas !
find this on youtube this is another christian given wrong facts about other religion ( EXPOSING SATAN'S POWER: WICCA ) but yet how many people did Hades kill ? a shit ton less than your fake fucking jesus thats for damn sure
CHRISTIANS ARE SUN WORSHIPER'S NOT WORSHIPERS OF THE SON ! YOU STUPID FUCKS READ YOUR HISTORY ! WHICH WOULD INDEED MAKE YOU A PAGAN ! you can not take history and change it to fit your needs , it will just come back and bit you in the ass like it just did
this song in case you hadn't noticed a ton of people sing this song so next time why dont you ask the 3 wise men to sing it for your fake dead man on a stick ? oh wait they cant because they are stars on ORION'S BELT !
christians do not ever stop to think why people hate them RIGHT AWAY they try to defend someone who was created by man and not real at all SO CHRISTIANS LOL next time you have something stupid to say read your bible read about your self and then come and say something
BTW this song has nothing to do with your oh so called lord, hell son i can say the samething that this song is for Pagans which means our gods wont let us down unlike your fake ass lord god LOL..
@zeustruth ROFFL ! only thing is why would we want it ? it is not even a song to worship and only has simple phrases nothing intended to no one just words
oh ya this song has nothing to do with jesus anyway it has no mention of him in any way shape or form i read the words and all is is saying is someone < not jesus gave them light and let them shine which could very well be your parents so lets cut the bull shit here people -.- nothing to do with your fake jesus as well and last i recall this song was not even made for him it was made for shits and grins
@royallove23 Thats right baby, this song has nothing *NOTHING* to do with christain god at all, like i said befor i can say this song was writen for pagans....which has more love and understand & most powerful? Pagas thats who christainty is a fake and never be more than that.
the catholic religion is nothing but money hungry moron's who take people's money to spend on religious crap that is not real and they are always asking for more money do you ever see any other religion doing this ?
@royallove23 i am just wondering...how much could u have given to the church that makes u hurt so much....have u ever realised that rich people dont complain wen they give...rate uaself...God is far much richer more wealthier than the few pennies that your bank a/c holds. and if u hold back ua giving....it wont make him less richer.
@njokikipeps given ? to the church i spent my entire school life with that chrust and always knew it was bullshit and when came time to give money th amount was always above $10 weather it be for a teachers gift a gift for another child ( chris cringle) school uniforms they have to pay for their own books shall i continue AND RICH PEOPLE do not give a damn thing they have enough money to atleast give 5 mill nd what to do they do they cry about it
@njokikipeps you have some fucking nerve to ask me this asshole question if god is so much richer then why the fuck does he always need money and fyi i am not rich my family struggles un like you and now because of obama it will get worse so if i were you i would shut your fuckin trap before you catch something in it
@njokikipeps if you dare respond back with more stupid shit on your fake jesus i will indeed report you smart people know he was only made up to cover up the PAGAN GOD MYTHRAS ! DEC 25TH IS THE BIRTHDAY OF MYTHRAS! not your fake jesus ,CHRISTIANITY made up jesus because they did not like mythras and they wanted to rule themselves perfect example of why your god /fake fake man on a stick is even talked about you will never win against and Atheist a Pagan so do not talk to me
Take a song that is well known only in its sad pop-tarty version, add conviction, a soul, vocal ability, and sheer power - and you get this. It's mind-blowing. Every single time.
if i'm not mistaken, Selah originally sang this song before Josh Groban and Westlife sang their own rendition. That's why Selah has the 2nd verse sung but the JG & Westlife don't. I think they all sang the song beautifully, though.
The song is beautiful but I cannot pass over how much pain there is in this world. It just drives u crazy to see those little faces so full of sorrow. Sometimes I think some of us are not consciencious at the blessedness of our lives.
the group is Westlife and the song was written by Rolf from Secret garden and actually it was not written as a religious sone, but it sure does fit, doesn't it??
i love this song soo much and you guys sing wonderfully! My friend and I are singing this as a duo for church sometime soon, and I hope it works out for us. I work at subway, and a couple came in the other day, and while waiting on their sandwhich to toast, a different version of this song came on. I asked them if they heard the song, and the lady said that it was her favorite song! It was just an overwhelming feeling! I'm so glad you guys sang this as well! :)
Raise me Father to be all you plan for me to be. Jeremiah 29:11.God has a home for us in Heaven for all eternity. Please except Jesus into your hearts and be saved from eternal punishment. Jesus died for you and He (GOD & JESUS) loves you.
@kHRevans No, I've been in a LDS church before because my brother was Mormon for a while, but we do not accept the teaching of Mormonism. @BigMaxie2: There is no god and not many gods except for the one who created the universe and all that is in it, Yahwah or Jesus Christ the Redeemer. Your "inner god" will face the supreme God when you depart this life, so why not ask Him to show you that He is real and wants to give you inner peace and joy.
Very well done. Maybe it will wake the sleeping giant we call humanity. Thank you for sharing. There's nothing like a piece of art that is inspired from God.
First time I heard this, I was in my car driving to work. Its impact was so strong, by the time I got to work I was in sobbing tears. I can't tell you what a balm to my soul this song is. For a long time, I couldn't listen to it without reaching for a tissue. Powerful stuff.
I haven't been to church in a while, and I used to be so active in it...me and my family used to sing this. It makes me cry hearing it, and miss what I had...
@irishcajun85 I know what you mean....I still love the Lord with all my heart, but I moved to the DC area and haven't found a church I really like here. I don't go much anymore, nor am I around other Christians. I miss the fellowship. What happened to me?
@NLVWHM I have the same problem - going to church is something I really struggle with. I can hand out tracks and share the gospel easily when God reveals an open door - but church - sometimes my soul is vexed.
thank you selah GOD BLESS you more! to all the people of GOD..... raise our sords and candle to light this darken world. NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER....WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF GOD!........
I won :) have a nice and lovely day to all ^^.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth Actually I had to go to sleep. It's what I do when I'm tired. Forgive me. and no again you proved nothing that website had NO SOURCE for mithra calling himself the way the truth and the light *sighs* Let me tell you how this works You cant just direct me to other pople who say "Oh yeah christ is mithra " You need to prove it! show me in the persian mithra story that it is said! You have proven absolutely nothing other than that you can not source check for yoursef.
Christmysaviour1 3 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 And the burden of proof is on you. I dont go around on youtube saying mithra isnt real trolling. YOU do. so PROV WHAT YOUR SAYING. Jeez Seriously it isnt that hard to do.
Christmysaviour1 3 days ago
@zeustruth And discount all the historical evidence for a man named Jesus. Then you gota discount the eye witness testimony of the people who were closest to him. yeah then I guess after all that evidence is gone then sure there is no evidence *rolls eyes*
Christmysaviour1 3 days ago
I would invite you to watch Zeitgiest debunked which has leading scholars in Mithra Horus and other lores disproving these ridiculous theories
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 I would invite you to common sense..but that with you is dead LOL, poor fella you are :) no knowledge..no nothing.....hey come to think of it i am the only one proving this to you...prove to me your jesus exist? NOW i'll be the lazy one.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 BUT i did prove to you that MITHRA did called himself the way, the light and so one...fact..and much more...which you asked for i might add...want me go back and tell you what you said? hmmmm
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 thats what i figured LOL, your a christain.....i showen you proven facts yet you still say everything i gave you is wrong...thats what christains do after all..they stick by to the dead man on a stick even thr truth is infront OF them...
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 whats the MOST ridiculous is your jesus LOL..beliving in a dead man on a stick....really now...theres NO proven facts that he ever existed..there MIGHT have been a guy name jesus but thats a far cry from being a GOD LMFAO.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 son you can not break me....i rather serve in hell than serve a murder're that is your GOD/jesus :) IF.....IF he exist's
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 OH one more thing befor i go, your god...your religion...your faith had murderd more people more than hitler & stallon combined! even rape tortred so on so forth...again look at the links...OH am not gonna stop oh now this is a begaing son, i wil spread the real truth about christainity and bring it down to its knees :) have a nice evening.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 I'll call that the *bible* burning day..its a thing that i thought up with which will catch on hahahahaha, sooo yeah...sooo enjoy your bible thumping ways while i burn this so called *holy* good book here.....what gets me is why the hell is this book black...? i mean for such a HOLY book should atleast be white with NO cross on it because its a Pagan tools.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth The Lucifer;/morning star is an issue of translation and nothing more. You have proven nothing.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@zeustruth Furthermore Lucifer was Satans name when he had not fallen so it would be safe to assume that God would give him a name as beautiful as Day star bringer of light morning star but after his fall he ceased to be the morning star and rather became the adversary or Satan.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@royallove23 It pains me to see you say that. I am going to wipe the dust off my sandals and leave this alone. You WILL confess that and so will satan that is a promise Jehovah has made. Back to what I was saying PROVE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. show me in history. Lucifer is mentioned in the book of Isaiah some 600 years before the Greeks so it is obvious who copied from who
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 dont let it pain you i feel no pain and i think that you have to dust off way more than you sandals i will remain to laugh at you to hard and so long youwill never catch me giving in to your fakeness NOT EVER the entire bible is a damn lie and you like a damn fool believe it WTF is wrong with you greeks are pagans they do not believe in the fake dead man on a stick you call jesus and you do not own me so go on your merry way and depart
royallove23 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 we do not FEAR your god that does not exist...we know the truth...the reason you are leaving is because YOU LOST...we proved you wrong...want more proven facts? goto MY other channel zeustruth.....on that channel you see TONS of facts..history and shit...you christains what you are...is shit..and i can smell you a mile away.
Laszroth 4 days ago
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@Laszroth he should give in already he knows hes wrong and their is no proof that his fake jesus fish exists the only thing they have is the bible the book of lies
royallove23 4 days ago
@Laszroth Look. I'm not running. I'm right here. Show me this evidence. I dont want to go to your channel just show me right now right here. Okay? Sounds good. Oh FYI. You not fearing my God matters not to me. Remember this, the Pharoah in egypt said the same thing. He never learnt his lesson either.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 we already did that you just refused to look deep into it typical for a christian to do because they believe so hard on faith that this fake jesus exists and he does not
royallove23 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 BTW i'll be going onto my main account, i have tons of sites to show you with proven history BTW.. :) Laughing my ass off here LOL you dumb fucker.
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Laszroth Bring it on .
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 lol dont worry he will and you can also go to my page and look a few things up if you would like
royallove23 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 Oh i will, i will til it burns the flesh off your bones lol.
zeustruth 4 days ago
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@zeustruth and it will lmao
royallove23 4 days ago
@zeustruth And Christians are supposed to be trash, please for the purpose of an intellectual debate how about you back of with the trash mouth it makes you look like you have a ,limited vocabulary and low mental capacity
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 you just said christians are supposed to be trash SO RIGHT THERE YOU SAID THEY ARE SHIT so wtf are you still doing arguing with us !
royallove23 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 again i will tell you once more, i AM not your slave bitch ass. now than shall we continue?
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 The Bright Morning Star goes to the misnomer of "Lucifer", which is an incorrect title for Satan or the Devil taken from the King James Version of Isaiah 14:12. Were it not for this odd transliteration, "Lucifer" would not exist as a term in English, and there would be no confusion on the matter. As it is, we need to be careful, I would suggest, in
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 using the term to describe who the Bible calls "Satan" or "the Devil". Most Christians are onto this, yet still the term "Lucifer" persists. In any case, the "morning star" is the title of Christ throughout the rest of Scripture.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 2Pet 1:19 (NIV) And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 Rev 2:28 (NIV) I will also give him the morning star.
Rev 22:16 (NIV) "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star."
Since it is clear that Jesus is the "Bright Morning Star" (even said so Himself) then how should we understand Isaiah 14:12?
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 Isa 14:12-15 (NIV) How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." But you are brought down to the grave, .
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 Theres many more links ON MY *C-h-a-n-n-e-l* IF you are not too lazy to check em out that is..if you do not that makes you a bigger fool because i proved you wrong...so go on i'll wait.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 OH and i am always updating the links with new ones...so you might wanna check back as well......But i know you will call those links *info* lies..because you are a christain after all.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 as for my mental..well yeah others called me a nutcase...crazy as hell and off my rockers..and know what? their right :)
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 OH and Mithra so you know came BEFOR christ...ummmm yeah...same names like the light...the way...so on so forth. u yeah soooo...i shall wait for you here i'll i chat with Royallove of slype and laughing our ass off here.
zeustruth 4 days ago
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@zeustruth leave it to a stupid pathetic christian to think he knows it all he couldnt be more wrong about everything he said or will try to say to defend the fake christ on a stick
royallove23 4 days ago
@zeustruth As for Mithra no HE DID NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LIGHT AND THE WAY AND THE REDEEMER THAT IS A LIE> prove it from history jeez
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 I just did you moron are you to fucking blind or to damn stuid to see this or for that matter read? of let me guess....like i said befor...your a christain who would continue to say the word LIE when it is the TRUTH...you a dead weight here that holds nothing you are sinking so deeply that you think every site on my channel is a lie..sorry KID your dead wrong...
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth No you may think you are right but you are mistaken. If you're having trouble with this one how about you prove that Mithra held the tietles of the way the truth the light the redeemer etc etc
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 The Vatican was built upon the grounds previously devoted to the worship of Mithra (also known as Mithras) (600 B.C.). The Orthodox Christian hierarchy is nearly identical to the Mithraic version. Virtually all of the elements of Orthodox Christian rituals, from miter, wafer, water baptism, alter, and doxology, were adopted from the Mithra and earlier pagan mystery religions. The religion of Mithra preceded Christianity by roughly six hundred years
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth Here we go again. The vatican being built on the ground iof mithraic worship proves nothing other than that the Catholic church was pagan at heart something I agree with. And yes mithraic worship is older than christ but shiow me where it has similar stories of christ?
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 Mithra was called "the good shepherd,” "the way, the truth and the light,” “redeemer,” “savior,” “Messiah." He was identified with both the lion and the lamb.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth Santa Claus lives in the north pole. He has 40 elves that massage his feet at night. See how stupid that sounds, without giving any proof. Show me their source buddy oh wait you have none Ive had this arguement with tons of people they never can back this one up so go ahead try your best :)
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 had to reboot my laptop thats what took i so long. continue? i wont stop :)
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth Having trouble with this one arent you? Is it because its NOT THERE IN HISTORY?
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 dude i had trouble with laptop stalling me had to reboot....like you dont know this LOL stupid one...it is in history....want the link?
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth yes show me where in history this is found.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 i'll mail it to you....hope you didnt block me lol.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth Ill check it out no worries
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 On its way now.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@zeustruth Well I did something you should learn to do. Source checking! Alot of the sources are rediculous like Acharya S who is basically no source shes a luaghing stock. Franz cumont is a bit more reputable but even he admits that most mithraic lore presenting any smiliarites were from ROMAN MITHRAISM which was 4 centuries AFTER CHRIST. there is no evidence of the origianl PERSIAN MITHRAISM having any of those beliefs which is what you would expect when Christianity was sweeping the world.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 thats where you are wrong there :) we are laughing our asses at you how stupid you are...i just called my friends..their here now, they are watching as i type they to are laughing at you LOL you have no idea...keep on believing your fairy tails.....maybe on day you MIGHT convence the whole world about this LOL...sorry failed.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 AND fyi this LINK was ON MY CHANNEL which proves you DIDNT go onto to check it out for yourself...again lazy christains.
zeustruth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 OH and shes calling me now LOL...can not believe this...this is funny as hell.
zeustruth 4 days ago
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@zeustruth hahahahahahahha yep in a sec i will be doing just that to get out a good laugh and you might have fun telling him about me new found life just do not sa
y to much he might cry
royallove23 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 OHHH btw, i am gonna make a new video on youtube soons...burning the bible to see how well it burns for a *holy* book...that gives a whole new meaning.
zeustruth 4 days ago
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@zeustruth oh you forgot to mention that jesus walks on water full body and flesh HOW THE FUCK impossible can he run through a ring of fire as well ? lmfao ?
royallove23 4 days ago
Again you have proven you know nothing. You need to go to school and learn a thing or two. Addmitedly my understanding of the greek Stauros is very limited right now but regardless think about it he was crucified under the rule of rome if THEY had a pagan meaning for the cross what does that have to do with Jesus? You have proven nothing of the sorts. You have not shown me where in HISTORY can we see before christ the parallels of his story.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 i am not your slave you idiot this isnt the past where you own others..sad for you christains eh? that you can not own a slave now can you? you are slaves to your own god..jesus is never will ever be real no matter how you say it..the bible is Shit..so many errors so many ways......even your bible proves that there isnt a god LOL ...you didshits amazes me...i will not be bowing down to no fake ass god like yours..the only thing you have is blood on your hands.
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 your the one who has no knowledge here.....your the one who does NOT research to know....i am the only one whos giving you facts & history & royallove..yet you are calling everything we say which is fact just by google it on your own...are you that stupid or lazy? has your religion that Pathetic?
Laszroth 4 days ago
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@Laszroth thats because he is to stupid and afraid just like the rest of the pussies he calls his people who are all in fact lying to his stupid ass as he sucks the shit from out of theirs
royallove23 4 days ago
@Laszroth Look buddy/ I never said you were my slave. Simply that the ammount of evidence for the bible is staggering prove to me that it isnt true? Even world famous athiests like Richard Dawkins admit that Jesus existed. You dont want to believe fine dont. but dont say that thats what history teaches because it is not. I'm gonna put this in simple terms for you to understand. SHOW ME WHERE IN HISTORY THAT CHRISTIANITY BORROWED FRoM PAGANISM> or stop spouting nonsense.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 BTW i have gone face to face with a christain and proved them wrong every time, you are no difrent here...which in this case you are running away like a roach, its okay i understand...Pagan religion is coming back and we'll see to it that your religion is in the dust.
Laszroth 4 days ago
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@Laszroth yes we will very far down way down below 6 feet under
royallove23 4 days ago
@Laszroth LOOK IM RIGHT HERE> jeez. Pagan religion has always been here you are just another cog in Satans machine. Remember Babylon they fell because of their beliefs. If you wish to worship a creautre that the almighty created instead of the Creator himself so be it. I am not trying to convert you anymore just defending my faith in Jesus Christ agains tslanderous accusations from pagans.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 paganism was here before christianity get the point already loko things up and stop being blind as you are doing a very good job at it
royallove23 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 LOL yes you did call me a slave..you are TOO LAZY to look things up..you wanted e to prove it to you time and time again..what i do? i did just that.....yet you are calling history & facts lies...which right there IS calling one a slave...gratz. you just proven yet another of my points that christains are indeed trash now.
Laszroth 4 days ago
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@Laszroth yes they are and that is all they will ever be is trash
royallove23 4 days ago
@Laszroth Okay. did you not read my rebuttal to EVERY ONE OF YOUR POINTS. Normally in a debate you try to rebutt my rebuttal. So please feel free or back off.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 i will laugh at the fact you just said that because a pagan never backs down from the argument
royallove23 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 Traditionally, Lucifer ( /ˈluːsɪfər/ or /ljuːsɪfər/) is a name that in English generally refers to the Devil or Satan before being cast from Heaven, although this is not the original meaning of the term. In Latin, from which the English word is derived, Lucifer (as a noun) means "light-bearer" (from the words lucem ferre). It was the name given to the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, which heralds daylight.
royallove23 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 For this meaning, English generally uses the names "Morning Star" or "Day Star", and rarely "Lucifer".
Use of the name "Lucifer" for the Devil stems from applying to the Devil what Isaiah 14:3–20 says of a king of Babylon whom it calls Helel (הֵילֵל, Shining One), a Hebrew word that refers to the Day Star or Morning Star (the Latin term[2] for which is lucifer)[3] In 2 Peter
royallove23 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 1:19 and elsewhere, the same Latin word lucifer is used to refer to the Morning Star, with no relation to the Devil. In Revelation 22:16, Jesus himself is called the Morning Star, but not "Lucifer", even in Latin.
It is uncertain when precisely the Isaiah passage, which in its Latin
royallove23 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 translation contains the name "Lucifer", began to be applied to Satan, but it was certainly used in this way by 3rd-century Origen,[4] and some scholars claim that the identification of "Lucifer" with the Devil was first made by Origen, Tertullian and Augustine of Hippo.[5]
royallove23 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 BTW i am NOT your buddy, son...i dont know where you got that idea that i am your buddy thats a far FAAAAAARRRRRRR cry from being so.
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 and it PAINS me sooo deeply that....jesus was called morning star in the bible...hmmmm i wonder whs the *morning star* really is...what or who is this morning star they speak of? hmmm :) sorry son you lost.
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Laszroth What a luaghable point. You are of course reffering to the NIV translation of the Bible which refers to Lucifer as the Morning Star and to Jesus as the Morning Star. But that is a horrible translation and a pagan corrupt one at that ( addmitedley the translators were pagan) The actual text refers to Lucifer as the Son of the morning and Jesus as the Morning Star.
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
@royallove23 Like I said my brother I hope you turn away from Satan but regardless you AND satan will have to bow down and confess that Jesus is the lord. You obviously know nothing about paganism because the concept of lucifer is originally from the old testament. You can't prove any of what you are saying . Remember Satan doesn't reward his followers..
Christmysaviour1 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 I AM NOT YOUR FUCKING BROTHER AND I AM NOT A MAN and you will never see me or satan himself bow down to that piece of shit fake jesus of yours actually Lucifer is the pagan god Hades and yes he does he is who gave me my new life and new man so to me he is the good so i would say he did a good deed for me and Luciefer as you asshole christians call him is part of the greek religion so the old testament my ass he goes back... way back
royallove23 4 days ago
@royallove23 You seem to have some problem with the ten commandments so that goes to show how troubled you really are. If you want to go hail satan then so be it. Just know that its never too late to turn back and at one point EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tounge shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. That includes you.
Christmysaviour1 5 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 ya i do have a problem with them would you like to know what the problem is ? the problem is they exist in every god damn <- place you idiots call holy their even in a court room PATHETIC ! and everything on it is common sense so why do they exist to be thrown in people safes and dont pick on Satan you dont know and never will know who he is if you want to find out look up who Lucifer is and your Lucifer is the Pagan god Hades i dont want to be included in your fake religion
royallove23 4 days ago
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@Christmysaviour1 which is really nothing but a ( CULT ) you keep forgetting MAN wrote the bible lol you might want to go back into the bible and real the entire thing because it is nothing but EVIL christianity has more blood on its hands than any religion and you cant deny that if you do your a fool wait we already covered that part -.- Ave Satanas!
royallove23 4 days ago
@royallove23 All you have to do to prove it is show in history where they borrowed from paganism. You can even make money doing it take the zeitgeist challenge! And as for living out lives we live our lives in accordance with gods will and his commandments
Christmysaviour1 5 days ago
From the way you are posting you seem to be a little child who can't stand being wrong. There is mountains of archeological evidence supporting the bible. You claim that Christianity borrowed from paganism well PROVE IT. it is a very simple thing to do!
Christmysaviour1 5 days ago
I have an idea for you. How about you take the zeitgeist challenge. You get 1000 dollars for proving this sort of stuff! It should be a piece of pie for you right :) and FYI I never said that paganism didn't exist before Christianity but that Christians did not borrow from the pagan religions. Instead what we see is post Christ you have pagan regions copying Christianity! So please learn how to research and learn the truth.
Christmysaviour1 6 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 you are a JOKE you know that john boy? you better GOOGLE this befor posting such claims thats not true..christinity DID steal pagan religion which we have PROVEN facts with history and all people back this up... shell i post this info on here to make YOU like an asshole? your doing a great job on that yourself.
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 In searching out the biblical understanding of what Yeshua (Jesus), was crucified on (the traditional Christian cross), I have found that there is no biblical evidence for it, whether the small 't' cross, or the capitalized (T). Criminals and such were sometimes crucified on a pole or stake, with a cross piece to make it a 't,' for there are records of such in ancient literature, but the 'cross' that Jesus was crucified on,
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 gives us no biblical grounds for assuming that it was any kind of 't.' From the Greek New Testament, the word that our English translates as 'cross', is a piece of wood that is a stake or a pole, that's all. And many times it's just called a tree (KJV: Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29; Gal. 3:13; 1st Pet. 2:24).
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 have also come to see that the traditional Christian cross was taken from the pagans. Its form or letter (T or t), symbolized Tammuz, the major pagan god of the ancient world. In Vine's Dictionary, under 'cross, crucify' it has this:
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 . Noun
'stauros (4716) denotes, primarily, 'an upright pale or stake.' On such malefactors were nailed for execution. Both the noun and the verb (sta-roo), 'to fasten to a stake or pale,' are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two beamed 'cross.' The shape of the latter had its origin in ancient Chaldea' (Babylon), 'and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the initial of his name), .'
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 in that country and in adjacent lands, including Egypt
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 well now...Looks like I just proved you wrong once more, next?
Laszroth 4 days ago
@Christmysaviour1 again, knowledge is power, thats what you lack, so i must say you need to go back to school and learn .
Laszroth 4 days ago
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first off i dont have to prove anything to you if you know what came first PAGANISM DID and yes i have done repeatedly but your just afraid to admit i am right why because your a christian who believes in a god that MAN made up himself which is very gullible of you and stupid (
httSLASHp:SLASHSLASHsocybertyDOTcomSLASHspiritualitySLASHpaganism-vs-christianitySLASH ) pick that apart and then eat it so READ IT WELL !
royallove23 6 days ago
In the Persian version of the Mithra story, he has one disciple, Varuna. In the Roman version, he has two, Cautes and Cautopatres. The source for this claim seems to be an old carving of Mithra slaying a bull while 12 people watch on. That these 12 people are companions or disciples is not suggested, and besides, this carving dates to post-Christian times anyways, so if they WERE meant to be disciples of some sort, they were likely influenced by Christianity, not the other way around.
Christmysaviour1 1 week ago
@Christmysaviour1 you are a brainless wonder and again christian is still christian you might want to learn your history so until you do... you will be ignored so have fun talking to yourself and thinking in your own little imaginary fairy tale world again no one can trust a christitan they are not reliable
royallove23 1 week ago
@royallove23 First of all. Lets drop the ad hominem attacks? Alright now that we got that out of the way, you need to PROVE what your saying with FACTS. My faith is irrelevant, you have to show me within history that Christianity has Mithraic roots. Which you have not done. So do not call me a brainless wonder, after being faced with facts you just blindly turn away. Who is the one operating on blind faith ?
Christmysaviour1 1 week ago
Oh I coudlnt find when you mention that Mithra had 12 disciples but ill disprove thats here:In the Persian version of the Mithra story, he has one disciple, Varuna. In the Roman version, he has two, Cautes and Cautopatres. The source for this claim seems to be an old carving of Mithra slaying a bull while 12 people watch on.
Christmysaviour1 1 week ago
God is good, he's so good, he better then Good, God is so good he puts the good in good! Breath deep, take a deep deep breath, feel that good feeling of the air filling your lungs , mmmm , Good is so good he's the breath of life itself, mmmmmm, man God is good!!
BloodWashed4Life 1 week ago
Jesus Loves You!
LoucaneProductions 1 week ago
I also Have made a video reading this as well, goto my channel if you wanna look at it.
zeustruth 3 weeks ago
@zeustruth this should be funny lol i cant wait to see all the shitty comments you get from these asshole christians which can only mean more fun for us :)
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@royallove23 yeah........can;t wait.
zeustruth 3 weeks ago
"When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males .... As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves." (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)
"You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you." (Deuteronomy 28:53)
"The Lord said to Joshua [...] 'you are to hamstring their horses.' " (Exceedingly cruel.) (Joshua 11:6)
zeustruth 3 weeks ago
proven god IS evil in bible :)
"I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children." (Leviticus 26:22)
"Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man." (Numbers 31:17-18)
"The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women" (Ezechial 9:4-6)
theres even more.
zeustruth 3 weeks ago
i love this version !!!
magicjana13 3 weeks ago
BEAUTIFUL SONG! I LOVE JESUS!!
TheGilbert2001 3 weeks ago
known fact christians hate everything that is not of christianity you idiots call it all the devil but you have no idea who Hades really is do you nope so another transformed thing because of christianity YOUR PRECIOUS JESUS = Mythras YOUR MARY = Atermis your paul transformed into saul is really HERMES and Barnabas in the bible is the greek god ZEUS ! so you christiand are nothing but thieves and lier's those are all greek gods/goddess
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@royallove23 known fact.. none christians try so so so hard to get US christians down.. if you dont believe in god why are you so afraid that WE live a very good and loving life ?
XXXstuppiXXX 3 weeks ago
@XXXstuppiXXX no we non christians state facts about how fake you christians really are and you dont like it well isn't this to bad because we state the truth to you ...you say we try to push our religion on you known FACT you christians have no idea wth you are talking about and another known fact is your scared your life is nothing but a meaningless LIE ( Christianity, a Plagiarised Version of Mithraism ) <<--- look this up on google to see exactly how fake your religion is
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@XXXstuppiXXX lets get something straight right now i do not like christians at all because they follow fake teaching and think who the fuck they are and you assholes are the ones who try to force this cult you call a religion down our throats look up on here a tv commercial i saw 2 nights ago( The Faith Dome Quiz DOT com ) asking for nothing but money and it repeated it self twice back to back THE TABS DONATE AND STORE right next to eachother
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@XXXstuppiXXX so do not tell me christianity are not thieves murderers lier's because i posted true facts on 1 of their pages and instantly i was blocked from all their video's and the 1 i was blocked on first you can not even rate on it now and i never got a reply back saying i was wrong so which tells me i am right and they know it which is the real reason i was blocked
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@royallove23 your not just right becaus ei dont answer back!
i might just happen to live off the internet sometimes..
i dont know but you, as little as i can prove God you can prove that there is no God..
i'd rather live a christian life and find out that there was nothing, than live just as i want and find out that i'd be going to hell for ETERNITY!
your choice bro
peace be with you :)
XXXstuppiXXX 6 days ago
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@XXXstuppiXXX I cant not even say what i want to here because i am to busy laughing at you. 1. LEARN HOW TO SPEAK PROPER ENGLISH
2. NICE TRY BUT THERE REALLY IS NO JESUS
and 3 i i have to quote you on ( i'd rather live a christian life and find out that there was nothing, than live just as i want and find out that i'd be going to hell for ETERNITY!)
SO you would rather waste your life just to end up in a box under dirt while you could have been living your life to the fullest
royallove23 5 days ago
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@XXXstuppiXXX i dont thiink you christians fully understand your shitty bible and your shitty religion which btw is a ( CULT ) AND everything in christianity is PAGAN so you might want to go die right now because that right there is the biggest clue that your jesus is not real :) but Satan must be real since all you christians run because your so afraid of him LIVE YOUR LIFE! Ave Satanas !
royallove23 5 days ago
find this on youtube this is another christian given wrong facts about other religion ( EXPOSING SATAN'S POWER: WICCA ) but yet how many people did Hades kill ? a shit ton less than your fake fucking jesus thats for damn sure
royallove23 3 weeks ago
you can not judge anyone in their history because bold fact you assholes were the ones who started this shit by killing everyone for your fake jesus
royallove23 3 weeks ago
CHRISTIANS ARE SUN WORSHIPER'S NOT WORSHIPERS OF THE SON ! YOU STUPID FUCKS READ YOUR HISTORY ! WHICH WOULD INDEED MAKE YOU A PAGAN ! you can not take history and change it to fit your needs , it will just come back and bit you in the ass like it just did
royallove23 3 weeks ago
this song in case you hadn't noticed a ton of people sing this song so next time why dont you ask the 3 wise men to sing it for your fake dead man on a stick ? oh wait they cant because they are stars on ORION'S BELT !
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@royallove23 ding ding ding.
zeustruth 3 weeks ago
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royallove23 3 weeks ago
@zeustruth giggles :p
royallove23 3 weeks ago
and you know what else you assholes can keep away from our children your STUPID FUCKING JESUS CAMP ! YOU BRAIN WASHING MOTHER FUCKERS !
royallove23 3 weeks ago
christians do not ever stop to think why people hate them RIGHT AWAY they try to defend someone who was created by man and not real at all SO CHRISTIANS LOL next time you have something stupid to say read your bible read about your self and then come and say something
royallove23 3 weeks ago
BTW this song has nothing to do with your oh so called lord, hell son i can say the samething that this song is for Pagans which means our gods wont let us down unlike your fake ass lord god LOL..
zeustruth 3 weeks ago
@zeustruth ROFFL ! only thing is why would we want it ? it is not even a song to worship and only has simple phrases nothing intended to no one just words
royallove23 3 weeks ago
oh ya this song has nothing to do with jesus anyway it has no mention of him in any way shape or form i read the words and all is is saying is someone < not jesus gave them light and let them shine which could very well be your parents so lets cut the bull shit here people -.- nothing to do with your fake jesus as well and last i recall this song was not even made for him it was made for shits and grins
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@royallove23 Thats right baby, this song has nothing *NOTHING* to do with christain god at all, like i said befor i can say this song was writen for pagans....which has more love and understand & most powerful? Pagas thats who christainty is a fake and never be more than that.
zeustruth 3 weeks ago
I LOVE JESUS!
chanmi20 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
Actually, crisrr, I heard this first from Josh Groban. :D So I knew it before Westlife did it.
JCsGirl0676 1 month ago
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moabel2020 1 month ago
the catholic religion is nothing but money hungry moron's who take people's money to spend on religious crap that is not real and they are always asking for more money do you ever see any other religion doing this ?
royallove23 1 month ago 2
@royallove23 i am just wondering...how much could u have given to the church that makes u hurt so much....have u ever realised that rich people dont complain wen they give...rate uaself...God is far much richer more wealthier than the few pennies that your bank a/c holds. and if u hold back ua giving....it wont make him less richer.
njokikipeps 3 weeks ago
@njokikipeps given ? to the church i spent my entire school life with that chrust and always knew it was bullshit and when came time to give money th amount was always above $10 weather it be for a teachers gift a gift for another child ( chris cringle) school uniforms they have to pay for their own books shall i continue AND RICH PEOPLE do not give a damn thing they have enough money to atleast give 5 mill nd what to do they do they cry about it
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@njokikipeps you have some fucking nerve to ask me this asshole question if god is so much richer then why the fuck does he always need money and fyi i am not rich my family struggles un like you and now because of obama it will get worse so if i were you i would shut your fuckin trap before you catch something in it
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@njokikipeps if you dare respond back with more stupid shit on your fake jesus i will indeed report you smart people know he was only made up to cover up the PAGAN GOD MYTHRAS ! DEC 25TH IS THE BIRTHDAY OF MYTHRAS! not your fake jesus ,CHRISTIANITY made up jesus because they did not like mythras and they wanted to rule themselves perfect example of why your god /fake fake man on a stick is even talked about you will never win against and Atheist a Pagan so do not talk to me
royallove23 3 weeks ago
@njokikipeps i refuse to give even an ounce of goodness to you because your asshole people gave no goodness to us <----FACT
royallove23 3 weeks ago
BEAUTIFUL!
MrHeinrich8 1 month ago
Take a song that is well known only in its sad pop-tarty version, add conviction, a soul, vocal ability, and sheer power - and you get this. It's mind-blowing. Every single time.
FabianWilliam 1 month ago
@FabianWilliam I beg everyone's pardon, this version was released before Westlife's. Nevertheless, the comparison still holds.
FabianWilliam 1 month ago
if i'm not mistaken, Selah originally sang this song before Josh Groban and Westlife sang their own rendition. That's why Selah has the 2nd verse sung but the JG & Westlife don't. I think they all sang the song beautifully, though.
davetheo1 1 month ago
The song is beautiful but I cannot pass over how much pain there is in this world. It just drives u crazy to see those little faces so full of sorrow. Sometimes I think some of us are not consciencious at the blessedness of our lives.
romania1977 2 months ago in playlist Selah
the group is Westlife and the song was written by Rolf from Secret garden and actually it was not written as a religious sone, but it sure does fit, doesn't it??
jww50 2 months ago
i love this song soo much and you guys sing wonderfully! My friend and I are singing this as a duo for church sometime soon, and I hope it works out for us. I work at subway, and a couple came in the other day, and while waiting on their sandwhich to toast, a different version of this song came on. I asked them if they heard the song, and the lady said that it was her favorite song! It was just an overwhelming feeling! I'm so glad you guys sang this as well! :)
purduefan341995 2 months ago
this song makes me cry =)
ibkristykat 2 months ago 7
a beautiful heartwarming redition of why God loves us.
Hydrogeology1 2 months ago
Raise me Father to be all you plan for me to be. Jeremiah 29:11.God has a home for us in Heaven for all eternity. Please except Jesus into your hearts and be saved from eternal punishment. Jesus died for you and He (GOD & JESUS) loves you.
Lovingmusic1965 3 months ago in playlist You Lift Me Up
Raise me Father to be all you plan for me to be. Jeremiah 29:11.
Lovingmusic1965 3 months ago in playlist You Lift Me Up
love it
daisy72114 3 months ago
i LOVE them soooo much...thier voices are soooo beautiful
futuremrsrupertgrint 3 months ago
Have you tried The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints?
kHRevans 3 months ago
@kHRevans No, I've been in a LDS church before because my brother was Mormon for a while, but we do not accept the teaching of Mormonism. @BigMaxie2: There is no god and not many gods except for the one who created the universe and all that is in it, Yahwah or Jesus Christ the Redeemer. Your "inner god" will face the supreme God when you depart this life, so why not ask Him to show you that He is real and wants to give you inner peace and joy.
TheKingsman42 2 months ago
We had a memorial service for one of our rugby players at school. At the service, they sang this song. It was beautiful!
CathyLamere14 3 months ago
Very well done. Maybe it will wake the sleeping giant we call humanity. Thank you for sharing. There's nothing like a piece of art that is inspired from God.
loveroffolkmusic 3 months ago
First time I heard this, I was in my car driving to work. Its impact was so strong, by the time I got to work I was in sobbing tears. I can't tell you what a balm to my soul this song is. For a long time, I couldn't listen to it without reaching for a tissue. Powerful stuff.
ladylejean215 3 months ago
Jesus is our refuge and strength!
Psalm 9: 9 & 10
"The Lord is a refuge for the oppressed, a stronghold in times of trouble.
Those who know your name will trust in you, for you, Lord, have never forsaken them who seek you."
2705Gemini 3 months ago
As the creation groans - the LORD* Jesus is raising up the "SONS" & DAUGHTERS* of GOD*... What a beautiful illustration in song!!!
dreaamstarworld 3 months ago
jv62able! GOD CARES FOR U!...
akyzac1 4 months ago
I NEED SERIOUS PRAYER !!!! PLEASE PRAY FOR ME
jv62able 4 months ago
I haven't been to church in a while, and I used to be so active in it...me and my family used to sing this. It makes me cry hearing it, and miss what I had...
irishcajun85 4 months ago 2
@irishcajun85 I know what you mean....I still love the Lord with all my heart, but I moved to the DC area and haven't found a church I really like here. I don't go much anymore, nor am I around other Christians. I miss the fellowship. What happened to me?
NLVWHM 3 months ago
@NLVWHM I have the same problem - going to church is something I really struggle with. I can hand out tracks and share the gospel easily when God reveals an open door - but church - sometimes my soul is vexed.
saltnlightful 2 months ago
thank you selah GOD BLESS you more! to all the people of GOD..... raise our sords and candle to light this darken world. NO RETREAT NO SURRENDER....WE ARE THE PEOPLE OF GOD!........
akyzac1 4 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Selah
When i first sang this song with my choir i was obsesed with it. I LOVE singing it, even if i didn't think i sounded all that good.
animelover12297 4 months ago
Glimpsed eternity ~
Peace,
V
MegaVeronicaLodge 4 months ago
Very nice rendition of the song.
stmaryanacortes 4 months ago
this song remind me of who i am! child of God!
sunshine13049 4 months ago