ive shot 500 rnds of blazer (aluminum cases) ammo through my glock 17 gen 4 and never had a problem but will not shoot reloaded ammo due to your glock warrenty will be voided.
One thing I like about Steel case is that they are biodegradable, leave a steel case in the environment and it will oxidize and wither away. Brass lasts a lot longer.
1. It ALUMINUM! and 2. The cases aren't to prove it fires...its for legal purposes if your cases ever need to be compared to ones found at a crime scene .
Also the reason to not use metal casings is because they do not expand properly like brass. This creates a gap between the casing and chamber for carbon to build up. Which eventually causes rounds to stick in the chamber. Also it is harder on the extractor. Some people say big deal I will just replace the extractor. Thats fine but why not just use brass and not replace the extractor LOL
The blazer ammo and the two casings in the manila envelope are Aluminum! And the purpose of the rounds in the manila envelope is to give to states that require it for a ballistics database. The purpose is that if there is a crime they can compare the casings at the crime scene with the database. your state does not require the casings so they were given to you with the gun when you bought it. Nothing personal but thumbs down for incorrect information.
The cases that come with the gun are not for function testing, they are for states (California) that require it. The problem with Wolf ammo is not the cases it's the laquer coating, most people wont have a problem with this but if you shoot ALOT of rounds rapidly, the laquer will melt and coat the chamber. If not cleaned out while it's still warm it can be a bitch to get out. This can cause jams later on.
@jerryspriinger the coating is polymer now, and it isnt coming off the cases, the poster above was accurate in that the steel cases just dont expand like the brass cases do, it lets residue from firing build up a little more in the chamber. I have fired about 300 rounds in one sitting with my Glock 17 and had no issues. Every time i hit the range im putting about 200 rounds through it, all steel cased. just never seen a problem and im way over 5k rounds of steel cased.
@jerryspriinger also dont switch between steel and brass, that will give you the most problems. When the brass expands it fills the gap that the steel cased ammo was leaving, but with the extra residue it can cause the brass cases to start giving you fte's though that is all from second hand sources, i only use steel cased ammo.
Not trying to be a smart a&s but blazer is aluminum cased.
Quote from the Blazer web site,
"GREAT ECONOMY THROUGH GREAT TECHNOLOGY. If casual practice is getting expensive, look to Blazer®. Blazer uses aircraft-grade aluminum that's heat-treated to make an economical cartridge case. "
i shoot whats on sale to practice i keep a nice stockpile of brass ammo my glock model 20 eats and spits out anything i put in it not sure if they even make steel case ammo for a 10mm but my lone wolf conversion .40 cal barrel eats it all p.s. cci blazer ammo "aluminum" seem to swell and jam my kimber 1911.45 every now and again but the glock .40 loves them i know 2 entirely diff guns but why the swelling in one and not the other oh well kimber is pretty but glock is the one i trust my life with
steel cased ammo sux blah blah blah, rabble rabble rabble . . . but seriously i don't like steel or aluminum ammo to much, its good stuff don't get me wrong, plenty of buddies use it all the time, but i like being able to have my friend reload the ammo for me and steel isn't so great for that. Great video btw, i enjoyed it.
Blazer is aircraft grade aluminum shells and are not steel. Take a better look at that Glock used ammo and you'll notice they are aluminum and not steel. I'm not trying to be that guy but people should know.
Steel case ammo isn't cast like you said. Steel case ammo can also be reloaded safely. You just need to know what your doing ! That goes for reloading any ammo. Your myth has just been busted. Look it up the info is out there. That does not mean that I would reload steel case ammo. I would never use lead type ammo in a Glock barrel. Only FMJ, and or JHP. Only jacketed ammo should be shot in a polygonal rifled barrel like Glock's. There are a few others to.
Steel case ammo isn't cast like you said. Steel case ammo can also be reloaded safely. You just need to know what your doing. That goes for reloading any ammo.Your myth has just been busted. Look it up the info is out there.
2) straight from glock manual "Only use high quality commercially manufactured ammunition, in excellent condition and in the caliber of your pistol. Glock does not recommend the use of unjacketed lead ammunition."
First of all, they fire 2. Second they are nickel plated brass for smoother feeding when the gun has no real lube. Steel is a hrader metal that wears on guns. Brass is used for casing because it can be reloaded, its soft and wont wear on certain guns, and if you love your gun why cheat it for a few dollars off.
Hi demissie101. I heard that the Wolf round was coated with a sort of laquer. This ammo was intended to hold up in Russian or other Third World rifles. I assume the laquer was added to hold up in bad inclement type weather & very low temperatures. This laquer then coats the innerds of the pistol/rifle you shoot. Thank God it's so easy to completely disassembly our Glocks & even wash the lower frame with dishwashing lotion etc. Ever hear this? Do you shoot Wolf Ammo? THX sincerely, JAMES.
I just bought a Glock 22 RTF2. My casings, fired by Betty Walton, both aluminum, stamped with CCI at the top and an N on the left and a R on the right. I'm assuming that it's CCI Blazer aluminum cased ammo. Fired 11/3/2009
Look at a brass case after firing. See the mark on the rim from the extractor? That is wear NOT HAPPENING on your extractor that would be happening from steel. It's that simple. Most people won't ever shoot enough steel ammo to ever wear a gun out or break a gun. Go to an IDPA match and see what people who shoot 5-10k rounds a year shoot.
Any time you have steel on steel, there is going to be increased wear. Most people that shoot a lot, 1000+ rounds per month and don't get free ammo IE professional shooters, use brass because they can reload it which is a shit ton "cheaper" than buying new. I can reload 9mm for about $3.50 a box of 50 and it's high quality, accurate and clean ammo. Reloading pays for itself in about 2 months if you shoot a lot.
It's unfortunate that some folks don't do their research before posting videos which some people will use for information and learn incorrectly. It's obvious the casings from Glock are aluminum, not steel. It's obvious the round he uses for an example is a Wolf steel cased round. There's nothing wrong with steel case rounds like wolf, other than they are dirty as hell and hard on extractors.
There are gun snobs, and ammo snobs. I have fired literally thousands of rounds of steel case with no problems. Some people won't fire steel case because their precious ARs have problems with it.
You've got to be careful who you look to for information. I'm sorry, but this guy may wish to believe he knows enough to put himself in the position to make firearms-related videos for other people, but it is apparent he shouldn't be listened to until he gets enough education to not makes the mistakes he's made, and know when he doesn't know enough to make an informational video such as this.
@stefstefstef6789 The video maker (who I don't trust, and would not watch future videos) means that you should not reload steel-cases (reloading the ammunition - new primer, new powder, new bullet in the used case).
@stefstefstef6789 Yes. You can buy steel, aluminum or brass cased ammunition and, as long as it is loaded correctly you can keep reloading the gun with that ammo. We also can 'reload' steel cases to make ammunition, but that's another discussion.
i shoot winchester ammo for training, i use hornady TAP jhps for personal defense. i love the taps rounds i shoot .40 cal xd anyone out the looking for a personal defense round try hornady not the cheapest round out there and only come 20 in a box. but for a round thats made just for personal defense they're worth it
COMPANY TEST SHIT BEFORE THEY MARKET THEIR PRODUCT, THERE IS A THING CALLED LAWSUITS AND REGULATIONS! IF A COMPANY MARKETS A PRODUCT THAT IS HARMFUL IT WILL BE RECALLED, IF SOMEONE HAS SAID A PRODUCT IS DANGEROUS AND ITS BEEN ON MARKET FOR LONGER THEN A YEAR WITHOUT RECALL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A IDIOT TO BELIEVE THEM.
The plastic in fact cannot be recycled, it is a "duromer", this means it does not deform under heat. Also, the plastic of light switches or other electrical stuff (like outlets) is made of non-heat-deformable material. If the polymer frame should not meat standards, it is thrown away and obviously burnt later in the waste-disposal plant.
Wolf steel case ammo is reloadable however it has a Berdan primer. Berdan primers are completely different from Boxer primers commonly found on reloadable brass case ammo. It's a very long, difficult, and tedious process in which many things could render the case unusable, but it is possible to reload steel case ammo and have it be safe to fire. I personally would not reload aluminum cases because aluminium is very soft compared to brass.
sorry man NO wolf , no steel casing on any of m guns, I paid waaayy too much for the guns to risk kaboom for a few bucks. I use brass blazer, its been great. I agree with you 100 % winchester WB ROCKS for range use. odd though, I checked my glock and ruger boxes, they all have brass casings test fire in the box. NEVER reload steel casing I agree. i reload my 45 brass 165 grain(light load) love that shit
hey whats up i just got done watching your video i purchased a glock 23c 3/5/2010 my test casings was collected 7/8/09 and its the same type.what do you think about speer gold dots and cor-bon dpx in .40 cal.
i bought a glock 30 one month ago ... my dad bought a glock 17 in '89 or '90 and another a glock 19,21,28 (he is a cop) and all of these came with two aluminum cases ... don't take my word for it take a magnet off your frig and see if it sticks ... i also work for one of those companies that recycles metals ( for 8 years now, look closely they are actually different colors in this video
Every box of Blazer I've ever shot (the cheap stuff mind you) clearly said that the cases are not reloadable. Though I am pretty sure Blazer cases are aluminum and not steel.
brass expands steal dosent if u made a brass pipe bomb and a steal pipe bomb the steal would explode better cause its stronger brass would expand and lose compression
I would have never guessed that Glock used steel-cased ammo to test fire their weapons. The two casings provided with the gun are the rounds used as a "ballistic fingerprint," so the weapon may be traced if used to commit a crime. I don't know if they do QA(quality assurance - meaning 100+ rounds) test on every gun or just a couple from each batch. Either way, they are using more than two rounds per gun on avg. just thought I would add my two cents. Thanks Demissie!! Great info!!
are you serious! The two rounds fired are for a ballistic fingerprint? Thats news to me. But a to me a waste of money and time. if a person wants to commit a crime all they would have to do is change the barrel.
rayray5340, part of the "ballistic fingerprint" in the fired case includes the impression of the breach face on the primer. When I'm working up a new load I examine fired rounds under a magnifying lamp and the pattern left by the breach face on the primer is consistent, and unique.
my springfield 1911 doesn't come with any spent shell but my s&w 686 does. does that mean my 1911 was brand new and my 686 was a used gun?? can anyonen answer my concern with positive knowledge.thanks
Both were probably brand new but if the manufacturer does not ship casings with the weapon in Maryland or California the owner has to pay for the government to test fire it and pay $100 before they can take possession of it.
@newshyne0822 Some states require the empty shell casing ie maryland, but not all companies include the shell casing unless they know for sure the gun may be sold in affected states
Why not reload? I can make a 100rd box of 125gr 9mm cast rounds for about $2.50, all you have to do is buy a diff barrel for your glocks and also for hk's if you have one. And as far as steel case shells spliting, I have seen premium brass rounds blow primers and spit there sides too. Just putting in my 2 cents on this, reloading would take your fears away on this happening because you controll what the round dose and over charge of the cartridge. Plus you save a bunch of money.
I wasnt talking about reloading steel cases. I was talking about brass, and you can reload steel cases if they have a boxer primer hole(one large hole). I have seen it done and have shot reloaded steel cases(dont try unless you really know what you are doing). And yes you do have to "resize" the case or full length size it, only if you dont fire the cases in the same gun chamber they where fired in before reloading because they will be fire formed to the chamber they came from.
americanpatriot194, I suspect your 100 rounds of reloaded ammo is costing you more than $2.50, which is 2.5 cents per round. Primers alone run 2 cents a piece, then add 2 cents per round for powder and a couple cents for your bullet. $6.50 per 100 rounds is probably a bit more accurate. No disrespect, but folks considering reloading should have an accurate picture of how much they can save.
I bought my glock 17 some time in mid 2008 and my factery spent cases were steal case rounds, iv shot 100s ta 1000s of steal case rounds through it and never had a problum one with it. ty =)
Good stuff. I prefer Blazer brass over Blazer aluminium most often when training. I haven't had problems with Wolf but I did notice it leaves my glock much more dirty at the end of the day.
Steel cased ammo is usually coated with either a laquer or a polymer. It does help soften the cycling and preventing casing rust, but it can create a buildup in the chamber in a hot gun as the coating melts. This buildup can lead to a stuck casing, or damaging the casing.
Steel cases also don't expand in the chamber as much as brass does, so you will get blowby passed the casing, and into the striker system. It's not bad if you clean often enough, and I haven't seen a fail yet.
Blazer also has some brass ammunition so it can be shot at gun ranges that don't allow the aluminum cases. But I still cant beat Winchester in availability and price! It can also be reloaded safely!
BTW the cases that came with your glock look like aluminum to me also, too bright to be steel, too dim to be nickle.
It's not that using steel cased ammunition is bad in your glock- it's that brands like Wolf used to use lacquer to coat their casings, and now they use a polymer. While the polymer coating is soft enough to eliminate any problems with the hardness of steel on your gun, it also gums up in your gun and can require extra, more thorough cleaning.
It looks like aluminum cases to me....cheaper than brass...not as cheap as steel...By the way, I own a FNP-9 and I have shoot more than 2,000 rounds of Wolf ammo through it with no damage at all to the gun...
Those look like aluminum to me. Certainly can tell by holding them. Aluminum is lighter than steel and brass. Not cheaper than steel though. Scrap prices are around $.82/lb.
@demissie101 just checked my rounds that were test fired from glock. I have a Glock 23, 27, and a 30, all three had different technicians, and all 3 used the Aluminum CCI Blazers. my fist glock i got in 2006, and the other 2 i got in 2010.
@demissie101 just checked my rounds that were test fired from glock. I have a Glock 23, 27, and a 30, all three had different technicians, and all 3 used the Aluminum CCI Blazers. my fist glock i got in 2006, and the other 2 i got in 2010. so i think steel casings may not be a good idea, glock obvioulsy uses aluminum.
I live in NY and the store takes the 2 glock fired casings when you buy the gun. I never asked why because I thought the whole country did the same thing until I saw another vid out there where a guy had them. Pretty weird huh..... By the way I never use reloads of steel cased ammo on my glocks. Not for any other reason than back when I started shooting I had heard some bad things and it's just a personal rule (choice).
Glock used brass for my 31. its Speer which i think Lawman is that type. I used winchester for target shooting and got a squib round from it. Earlier in the day before that happened a guy next to me said he had 2 squibs from Winchester for his Kimber 1911. I use Sellior and Bellot for target shooting with the Glock. For personal protection i use Hornady HP's. For my SKS i have fired over 1,000 rounds of wolf and the only thing i dont like is the red dye on some of the rounds.
good informatuve video, I generaly shoot the winchester white box as shown because thats what available to me a bit more expensive, but I save my brass and donate it to my local shooting club...the guys really appreciate! And I dont mind donating it...I have shot wolf 9mm in the past but not too much all together 200 rounds, worked fine in my glock 17..as for the blazewr I onyl shot a 50 round box, but I thought it was aluminum casings? Not 100% on that though, may have been steel?
ive shot 500 rnds of blazer (aluminum cases) ammo through my glock 17 gen 4 and never had a problem but will not shoot reloaded ammo due to your glock warrenty will be voided.
rhendrix093 1 week ago
*Cheap
piratepolice88 3 weeks ago
My Glock eats steel ammo like a champ. Shoots just as accurate as the brass cased I use too.
The1cemanCometh 1 month ago
One thing I like about Steel case is that they are biodegradable, leave a steel case in the environment and it will oxidize and wither away. Brass lasts a lot longer.
Reynard13Fuchs 1 month ago
1. It ALUMINUM! and 2. The cases aren't to prove it fires...its for legal purposes if your cases ever need to be compared to ones found at a crime scene .
Abington586 5 months ago 2
Also the reason to not use metal casings is because they do not expand properly like brass. This creates a gap between the casing and chamber for carbon to build up. Which eventually causes rounds to stick in the chamber. Also it is harder on the extractor. Some people say big deal I will just replace the extractor. Thats fine but why not just use brass and not replace the extractor LOL
thomastaylor77 5 months ago
The blazer ammo and the two casings in the manila envelope are Aluminum! And the purpose of the rounds in the manila envelope is to give to states that require it for a ballistics database. The purpose is that if there is a crime they can compare the casings at the crime scene with the database. your state does not require the casings so they were given to you with the gun when you bought it. Nothing personal but thumbs down for incorrect information.
thomastaylor77 5 months ago
It's aluminum!
intercooler2 5 months ago
The cases that come with the gun are not for function testing, they are for states (California) that require it. The problem with Wolf ammo is not the cases it's the laquer coating, most people wont have a problem with this but if you shoot ALOT of rounds rapidly, the laquer will melt and coat the chamber. If not cleaned out while it's still warm it can be a bitch to get out. This can cause jams later on.
jerryspriinger 6 months ago
@jerryspriinger the coating is polymer now, and it isnt coming off the cases, the poster above was accurate in that the steel cases just dont expand like the brass cases do, it lets residue from firing build up a little more in the chamber. I have fired about 300 rounds in one sitting with my Glock 17 and had no issues. Every time i hit the range im putting about 200 rounds through it, all steel cased. just never seen a problem and im way over 5k rounds of steel cased.
Subb2kSurvivor 2 months ago
@jerryspriinger also dont switch between steel and brass, that will give you the most problems. When the brass expands it fills the gap that the steel cased ammo was leaving, but with the extra residue it can cause the brass cases to start giving you fte's though that is all from second hand sources, i only use steel cased ammo.
Subb2kSurvivor 2 months ago
Not trying to be a smart a&s but blazer is aluminum cased.
Quote from the Blazer web site,
"GREAT ECONOMY THROUGH GREAT TECHNOLOGY. If casual practice is getting expensive, look to Blazer®. Blazer uses aircraft-grade aluminum that's heat-treated to make an economical cartridge case. "
97TRAKIN 6 months ago
Blazer is aluminum alloy dumb ass....
factor6962003 6 months ago 3
I just got my glock today and opened up the packet and I also had two spent shells of steel cases. 8.5.11
DonMungia 6 months ago
i shoot whats on sale to practice i keep a nice stockpile of brass ammo my glock model 20 eats and spits out anything i put in it not sure if they even make steel case ammo for a 10mm but my lone wolf conversion .40 cal barrel eats it all p.s. cci blazer ammo "aluminum" seem to swell and jam my kimber 1911.45 every now and again but the glock .40 loves them i know 2 entirely diff guns but why the swelling in one and not the other oh well kimber is pretty but glock is the one i trust my life with
lakinl86 8 months ago
steel cased ammo sux blah blah blah, rabble rabble rabble . . . but seriously i don't like steel or aluminum ammo to much, its good stuff don't get me wrong, plenty of buddies use it all the time, but i like being able to have my friend reload the ammo for me and steel isn't so great for that. Great video btw, i enjoyed it.
pj1843 9 months ago
aluminum? yeah, thats smart
sownindishonor15 10 months ago
it means they are saving money lol and its just two rounds
BkBeast23 10 months ago
isnt steel rough on your extractor?
bjizzle123 10 months ago
Blazer is aircraft grade aluminum shells and are not steel. Take a better look at that Glock used ammo and you'll notice they are aluminum and not steel. I'm not trying to be that guy but people should know.
chrizzis77 10 months ago
I'll take your brass :o how much do they pay per pound?
ericspinball 10 months ago
Steel case ammo isn't cast like you said. Steel case ammo can also be reloaded safely. You just need to know what your doing ! That goes for reloading any ammo. Your myth has just been busted. Look it up the info is out there. That does not mean that I would reload steel case ammo. I would never use lead type ammo in a Glock barrel. Only FMJ, and or JHP. Only jacketed ammo should be shot in a polygonal rifled barrel like Glock's. There are a few others to.
ylism 11 months ago
Steel case ammo isn't cast like you said. Steel case ammo can also be reloaded safely. You just need to know what your doing. That goes for reloading any ammo.Your myth has just been busted. Look it up the info is out there.
ylism 11 months ago
1) cheap is spelt cheap not cheep.
2) straight from glock manual "Only use high quality commercially manufactured ammunition, in excellent condition and in the caliber of your pistol. Glock does not recommend the use of unjacketed lead ammunition."
3) my glock fired test rounds are CCI
felix161 11 months ago
CCI is aluminum cased. Glock voids your warranty if you fired steel cased ammo. Your video = FAIL
Stylensky 11 months ago
Several manufacturer will tell you (read it in my manual) that steel voids the warranty or at least is not recommended. My indoor ranges ban it.
RainmanE350 1 year ago
**info**hey glock 19 here shot 2/02/2010 aluminum case also
1shooter216 1 year ago
the case they used on mine was was uncoated brass
rg7488 1 year ago
First of all, they fire 2. Second they are nickel plated brass for smoother feeding when the gun has no real lube. Steel is a hrader metal that wears on guns. Brass is used for casing because it can be reloaded, its soft and wont wear on certain guns, and if you love your gun why cheat it for a few dollars off.
RockWithaGlock 1 year ago
brass is ductile :) correct terminology. nice vid :)
ibanezkid07 1 year ago
I just got my 27 last week and my test rounds were collected 01/24/11, both are aluminum cased cci.
jstre03 1 year ago
I agree with you on your video bro but just some extra info
My glock 19 is 2010 and came with two brass shell casings
just info
QUESTED 1 year ago
nice vid
rightwingnutjob89 1 year ago
how bout the cheap tula shit will it cycle
ibanezkid07 1 year ago
He knows his junk
piperboy350 1 year ago
Hi demissie101. I heard that the Wolf round was coated with a sort of laquer. This ammo was intended to hold up in Russian or other Third World rifles. I assume the laquer was added to hold up in bad inclement type weather & very low temperatures. This laquer then coats the innerds of the pistol/rifle you shoot. Thank God it's so easy to completely disassembly our Glocks & even wash the lower frame with dishwashing lotion etc. Ever hear this? Do you shoot Wolf Ammo? THX sincerely, JAMES.
buzzclark 1 year ago
I just bought a Glock 22 RTF2. My casings, fired by Betty Walton, both aluminum, stamped with CCI at the top and an N on the left and a R on the right. I'm assuming that it's CCI Blazer aluminum cased ammo. Fired 11/3/2009
mrmeanr 1 year ago
i subbed
bobiscool308 1 year ago
you spelt aluminum wrong retard
bobiscool308 1 year ago
Look at a brass case after firing. See the mark on the rim from the extractor? That is wear NOT HAPPENING on your extractor that would be happening from steel. It's that simple. Most people won't ever shoot enough steel ammo to ever wear a gun out or break a gun. Go to an IDPA match and see what people who shoot 5-10k rounds a year shoot.
USFZeus 1 year ago
Any time you have steel on steel, there is going to be increased wear. Most people that shoot a lot, 1000+ rounds per month and don't get free ammo IE professional shooters, use brass because they can reload it which is a shit ton "cheaper" than buying new. I can reload 9mm for about $3.50 a box of 50 and it's high quality, accurate and clean ammo. Reloading pays for itself in about 2 months if you shoot a lot.
USFZeus 1 year ago
It's unfortunate that some folks don't do their research before posting videos which some people will use for information and learn incorrectly. It's obvious the casings from Glock are aluminum, not steel. It's obvious the round he uses for an example is a Wolf steel cased round. There's nothing wrong with steel case rounds like wolf, other than they are dirty as hell and hard on extractors.
USFZeus 1 year ago
There are gun snobs, and ammo snobs. I have fired literally thousands of rounds of steel case with no problems. Some people won't fire steel case because their precious ARs have problems with it.
stchman 1 year ago
Hornady makes really great quality ammo, I use it in my G30 .45ACP for personal defense. Lawman brand ammo for training.
charger19691 1 year ago
not sure about when this video was made but blazer aluminum is non reloadable and says so on the botom of the case
eastexan72 1 year ago
You've got to be careful who you look to for information. I'm sorry, but this guy may wish to believe he knows enough to put himself in the position to make firearms-related videos for other people, but it is apparent he shouldn't be listened to until he gets enough education to not makes the mistakes he's made, and know when he doesn't know enough to make an informational video such as this.
Spearfisher1970 1 year ago
wait i dont understand.... you cant reload your weapon if it has steel ammunition? how do you fire it again?? (im not an expert with ammo)
stefstefstef6789 1 year ago
@stefstefstef6789 The video maker (who I don't trust, and would not watch future videos) means that you should not reload steel-cases (reloading the ammunition - new primer, new powder, new bullet in the used case).
Spearfisher1970 1 year ago
@Spearfisher1970 so you can reload the a gun which uses steel case ammunition? lol
stefstefstef6789 1 year ago
@stefstefstef6789 Yes. You can buy steel, aluminum or brass cased ammunition and, as long as it is loaded correctly you can keep reloading the gun with that ammo. We also can 'reload' steel cases to make ammunition, but that's another discussion.
Spearfisher1970 1 year ago
@Spearfisher1970 ok :) thanks for the help man
stefstefstef6789 1 year ago
i shoot winchester ammo for training, i use hornady TAP jhps for personal defense. i love the taps rounds i shoot .40 cal xd anyone out the looking for a personal defense round try hornady not the cheapest round out there and only come 20 in a box. but for a round thats made just for personal defense they're worth it
TheRedneckmarine24 1 year ago
hey its not a big thing. but the steel is not casted. its drawn. much like cup drawing
FunkMasterFelix 1 year ago
COMPANY TEST SHIT BEFORE THEY MARKET THEIR PRODUCT, THERE IS A THING CALLED LAWSUITS AND REGULATIONS! IF A COMPANY MARKETS A PRODUCT THAT IS HARMFUL IT WILL BE RECALLED, IF SOMEONE HAS SAID A PRODUCT IS DANGEROUS AND ITS BEEN ON MARKET FOR LONGER THEN A YEAR WITHOUT RECALL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A IDIOT TO BELIEVE THEM.
mancow5 1 year ago
@mancow5 hey man, ur caps lock is on.
TacticalJunkie 1 year ago
@mancow5 LOUD NOISES!
Ronald3570 1 year ago
glock will refurbish that weapon and sell it but that rarley happens
TrifeThaDon 1 year ago
glock will refurbish that weapon and seelt it but that rarley happens
TrifeThaDon 1 year ago
The plastic in fact cannot be recycled, it is a "duromer", this means it does not deform under heat. Also, the plastic of light switches or other electrical stuff (like outlets) is made of non-heat-deformable material. If the polymer frame should not meat standards, it is thrown away and obviously burnt later in the waste-disposal plant.
ThatGuyFromAustria 1 year ago
WOLF rounds suck!
xmanhockey7 1 year ago
stop islam
blauhowie21 1 year ago
@blauhowie21 could u explain ur reasoning plz
soostheman 1 year ago
They put 2 spent casings for testing and ballistics! so if a crime is committed with that firearm they can trace it to the registered owner.
hartncali 1 year ago
CHEAP, not cheep.
75SilentWarrior 1 year ago
my glock 19, 30, and 22 all came with blazer caseings
CarBinAsSasSiN4 1 year ago
Wolf steel case ammo is reloadable however it has a Berdan primer. Berdan primers are completely different from Boxer primers commonly found on reloadable brass case ammo. It's a very long, difficult, and tedious process in which many things could render the case unusable, but it is possible to reload steel case ammo and have it be safe to fire. I personally would not reload aluminum cases because aluminium is very soft compared to brass.
Very good video and thanks for the annotations.
MosinDragunov1891 1 year ago
Glock uses aluminum cases. CCI Blazer uses aluminum cases. Not steel.. gees.
shootingsportspro 1 year ago
sorry man NO wolf , no steel casing on any of m guns, I paid waaayy too much for the guns to risk kaboom for a few bucks. I use brass blazer, its been great. I agree with you 100 % winchester WB ROCKS for range use. odd though, I checked my glock and ruger boxes, they all have brass casings test fire in the box. NEVER reload steel casing I agree. i reload my 45 brass 165 grain(light load) love that shit
JackSureshot 1 year ago
You can reload steel too. I know a guy that reloads Wolf .223 Rem.
ECTBWHO 1 year ago
@ demissie101 is that a glock 26?
hindview 1 year ago
hey whats up i just got done watching your video i purchased a glock 23c 3/5/2010 my test casings was collected 7/8/09 and its the same type.what do you think about speer gold dots and cor-bon dpx in .40 cal.
trigg35745 1 year ago
o yeah on my blazer box, it says none reloadedable, but its not steel either
akshooter762 1 year ago
my blazer ammo is made of alumium alloy, i think its ok to reload steel
akshooter762 1 year ago
i bought a glock 30 one month ago ... my dad bought a glock 17 in '89 or '90 and another a glock 19,21,28 (he is a cop) and all of these came with two aluminum cases ... don't take my word for it take a magnet off your frig and see if it sticks ... i also work for one of those companies that recycles metals ( for 8 years now, look closely they are actually different colors in this video
all4trn 2 years ago
Good video dude - thanks.
cuntbollockswank 2 years ago
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pjicleanair420 2 years ago
Every box of Blazer I've ever shot (the cheap stuff mind you) clearly said that the cases are not reloadable. Though I am pretty sure Blazer cases are aluminum and not steel.
KurNorock 2 years ago
Steel is much stronger than brass.
So how the hell would people get the idea that steel cases are somehow more likely to blow up than brass cases?
I swear, some people are idiots.
KurNorock 2 years ago
brass expands steal dosent if u made a brass pipe bomb and a steal pipe bomb the steal would explode better cause its stronger brass would expand and lose compression
tyler55g 1 year ago
I bought a G26 about 6 months ago and it was test fired with steel cased ammunition.
fsvaio 2 years ago
Those cases look like Blazer ammo which is aluminum.
Lord666Belial 2 years ago
I would have never guessed that Glock used steel-cased ammo to test fire their weapons. The two casings provided with the gun are the rounds used as a "ballistic fingerprint," so the weapon may be traced if used to commit a crime. I don't know if they do QA(quality assurance - meaning 100+ rounds) test on every gun or just a couple from each batch. Either way, they are using more than two rounds per gun on avg. just thought I would add my two cents. Thanks Demissie!! Great info!!
poenisch 2 years ago
are you serious! The two rounds fired are for a ballistic fingerprint? Thats news to me. But a to me a waste of money and time. if a person wants to commit a crime all they would have to do is change the barrel.
rayray5340 2 years ago
rayray5340, part of the "ballistic fingerprint" in the fired case includes the impression of the breach face on the primer. When I'm working up a new load I examine fired rounds under a magnifying lamp and the pattern left by the breach face on the primer is consistent, and unique.
secretvid 2 years ago
I thought Blazer rounds were Aluminium cased?
catdoc541 2 years ago 2
@catdoc541 They are aircraft grade aluminum cases.
americanpatriot194 2 years ago
Great vid....I learned something about steel casings....thanks
bigtwo1952 2 years ago
my springfield 1911 doesn't come with any spent shell but my s&w 686 does. does that mean my 1911 was brand new and my 686 was a used gun?? can anyonen answer my concern with positive knowledge.thanks
newshyne0822 2 years ago
The spent shell is from where the factory tested the gun.
SlapNuts3000 2 years ago
so how come my 1911 doesn't have one? so is my sw brand new?
newshyne0822 2 years ago
Both were probably brand new but if the manufacturer does not ship casings with the weapon in Maryland or California the owner has to pay for the government to test fire it and pay $100 before they can take possession of it.
Lord666Belial 2 years ago
@newshyne0822 i havn't heard of the 686, is it a revolver?
lilham10809 2 years ago
yes. smith wesson 686 is a revolver. very nice gun
newshyne0822 2 years ago
@newshyne0822 Some states require the empty shell casing ie maryland, but not all companies include the shell casing unless they know for sure the gun may be sold in affected states
joerenew 2 years ago
Why not reload? I can make a 100rd box of 125gr 9mm cast rounds for about $2.50, all you have to do is buy a diff barrel for your glocks and also for hk's if you have one. And as far as steel case shells spliting, I have seen premium brass rounds blow primers and spit there sides too. Just putting in my 2 cents on this, reloading would take your fears away on this happening because you controll what the round dose and over charge of the cartridge. Plus you save a bunch of money.
americanpatriot194 2 years ago
When you reload a case you have to resize it because it stretches however you cannot resize a steel case because of how strong it is.
Lord666Belial 2 years ago
I wasnt talking about reloading steel cases. I was talking about brass, and you can reload steel cases if they have a boxer primer hole(one large hole). I have seen it done and have shot reloaded steel cases(dont try unless you really know what you are doing). And yes you do have to "resize" the case or full length size it, only if you dont fire the cases in the same gun chamber they where fired in before reloading because they will be fire formed to the chamber they came from.
americanpatriot194 2 years ago
americanpatriot194, I suspect your 100 rounds of reloaded ammo is costing you more than $2.50, which is 2.5 cents per round. Primers alone run 2 cents a piece, then add 2 cents per round for powder and a couple cents for your bullet. $6.50 per 100 rounds is probably a bit more accurate. No disrespect, but folks considering reloading should have an accurate picture of how much they can save.
secretvid 2 years ago
I prefer Win over Wolf or Blazer, mostly cuse its a little cleaner
GrenMoyo 2 years ago
I bought my glock 17 some time in mid 2008 and my factery spent cases were steal case rounds, iv shot 100s ta 1000s of steal case rounds through it and never had a problum one with it. ty =)
ZeRo1234543 2 years ago
By the way American Eagle by Federal is good practice ammo.
ahmadyazdani 2 years ago
Good stuff. I prefer Blazer brass over Blazer aluminium most often when training. I haven't had problems with Wolf but I did notice it leaves my glock much more dirty at the end of the day.
ahmadyazdani 2 years ago
you're right about the steel or aluminum case factory test fire-my g30 has 2 cci nr 45 auto-nice presentation
WINDHAMMAN 2 years ago
Steel cased ammo is usually coated with either a laquer or a polymer. It does help soften the cycling and preventing casing rust, but it can create a buildup in the chamber in a hot gun as the coating melts. This buildup can lead to a stuck casing, or damaging the casing.
Steel cases also don't expand in the chamber as much as brass does, so you will get blowby passed the casing, and into the striker system. It's not bad if you clean often enough, and I haven't seen a fail yet.
Dark2JZGE 2 years ago
Blazer also has some brass ammunition so it can be shot at gun ranges that don't allow the aluminum cases. But I still cant beat Winchester in availability and price! It can also be reloaded safely!
BTW the cases that came with your glock look like aluminum to me also, too bright to be steel, too dim to be nickle.
Timisso1337 2 years ago 2
Blazer Bronze line is brass cased.
ketel1 2 years ago
It's not that using steel cased ammunition is bad in your glock- it's that brands like Wolf used to use lacquer to coat their casings, and now they use a polymer. While the polymer coating is soft enough to eliminate any problems with the hardness of steel on your gun, it also gums up in your gun and can require extra, more thorough cleaning.
zacockerpball 2 years ago
It looks like aluminum cases to me....cheaper than brass...not as cheap as steel...By the way, I own a FNP-9 and I have shoot more than 2,000 rounds of Wolf ammo through it with no damage at all to the gun...
IKIDDP5 2 years ago
i also own an fnp-9 great weapon.
300mag83 2 years ago
arent blazer alumenum and those from glock could be nickle or alumenum
not trying to argue but i think that the steel case ammo prob is bull just my oppinion
tacdriver22mk2 2 years ago
YES it is I will add Annotations thanks.
demissie101 2 years ago
check my vid out demissie, also do a vid on your edc
pjicleanair420 2 years ago
Those are aluminum cases.....
naik3002 2 years ago 3
YES it is I will add Annotations thanks.
demissie101 2 years ago
@demissie101 Those are ALUMINUM!!!......LOL just kidding, so repedative.
maltieskitten 1 year ago
@naik3002 You are correct sir! Though its not much better lol
QuicDra 1 year ago
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u50214 2 years ago
steel case is useless for me because local retailers have to price all brands the same to keep ammo on the shelf.
brreed82 2 years ago
Those look like aluminum to me. Certainly can tell by holding them. Aluminum is lighter than steel and brass. Not cheaper than steel though. Scrap prices are around $.82/lb.
shoe612 2 years ago 5
YES it is I will add Annotations thanks.
demissie101 2 years ago
Yes blazer is aluminum
multicam2000 2 years ago 8
@multicam2000 YES
lol.
Ronald3570 1 year ago
I use to use wolf 40s&w until i had a case crack and get stuck in the chamber. They were factory loads not reloads by the way.
vabate1881 2 years ago
Isn't standard Blazer ammo (not brass) Aluminium cased?
TacticalTupperware 2 years ago 4
if it says blazer brass then its brass.
mentalsplice 2 years ago
YES it is I will add Annotations thanks.
demissie101 2 years ago
@demissie101 just checked my rounds that were test fired from glock. I have a Glock 23, 27, and a 30, all three had different technicians, and all 3 used the Aluminum CCI Blazers. my fist glock i got in 2006, and the other 2 i got in 2010.
TacticalJunkie 1 year ago
@demissie101 just checked my rounds that were test fired from glock. I have a Glock 23, 27, and a 30, all three had different technicians, and all 3 used the Aluminum CCI Blazers. my fist glock i got in 2006, and the other 2 i got in 2010. so i think steel casings may not be a good idea, glock obvioulsy uses aluminum.
TacticalJunkie 1 year ago
@TacticalTupperware black box blazer is aluminum, and the black and gold box blazer's are brass.
TacticalJunkie 1 year ago
Probably just one of my weird OCD gun things but I don't mind spending a little extra $ if it will help in the long run.
glocklife 2 years ago
I live in NY and the store takes the 2 glock fired casings when you buy the gun. I never asked why because I thought the whole country did the same thing until I saw another vid out there where a guy had them. Pretty weird huh..... By the way I never use reloads of steel cased ammo on my glocks. Not for any other reason than back when I started shooting I had heard some bad things and it's just a personal rule (choice).
glocklife 2 years ago
Glock used brass for my 31. its Speer which i think Lawman is that type. I used winchester for target shooting and got a squib round from it. Earlier in the day before that happened a guy next to me said he had 2 squibs from Winchester for his Kimber 1911. I use Sellior and Bellot for target shooting with the Glock. For personal protection i use Hornady HP's. For my SKS i have fired over 1,000 rounds of wolf and the only thing i dont like is the red dye on some of the rounds.
onslaught42 2 years ago
Ill try to make a video tonight demissie of my Glock 21 and the ammo I use. I have some wolf ammo but have had some problems with it.
GunGuy0 2 years ago
good vids, keep them coming !
zero355360 2 years ago
Yeah i like steel casing bullets also. But the problem is that many shooting ranges don't allow people to use them.
krazykobe8 2 years ago
good informatuve video, I generaly shoot the winchester white box as shown because thats what available to me a bit more expensive, but I save my brass and donate it to my local shooting club...the guys really appreciate! And I dont mind donating it...I have shot wolf 9mm in the past but not too much all together 200 rounds, worked fine in my glock 17..as for the blazewr I onyl shot a 50 round box, but I thought it was aluminum casings? Not 100% on that though, may have been steel?
cutlerylover 2 years ago