If anyone of you want to make any accusation on Zaid Hamid, please provide solid evidence before doing it otherwise you will be held responsible for it on the day of judgement.
"Aap ko aaj bhi ikhteyar hai, jayay Abdul Rahman Ashrafi ke paas, Maulana Abdul se pooch lijiye" -- said by Zaid Hamid on video and proven a lie!!!
Mian Mithoo ne apni kabar khud hi khod di, ye kya chakkar hai? Mujhe samaj nahi ati ke kya is ka irada khud kushi hai ya koi aur takleef hai is haramzaday ko?
The main people who care about dragging this annoying Yousaf blasphemy issue on and on and on and on and on and on are Zaid Hamid's group themselves.
Also Zaid Hamid could have ended this issue more than a year ago by saying he doesn't support Yousaf Ali and doesn't support blasphemy but Zaid Hamid kept this issue going for months and months and months.
So who is still dragging this issue on and on and why?
I came to know about Yousef today, and i was shocked about the videos & audio i heard about them. At the end what my mind said is, we should study Quran & Sunnah by ourself, & then we should try to follow scholars. This is the main cause of fitna, we muslims try to take shortcuts, follow that peer, follow that molwi, this person saying some thing, that person is saying something else. If we had studied Quran & sunnah ourself, then there will be no confusions, and we will easily be able to judge.
agar aap ko istikhara ke mutaliq kuch pata nahi tu is mein kisi ka kia qasoor hai? kia aap ko pata hai ke khud Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ne istikhara karne ki talqeen farmaee thi ?
agar ''hidayat ''aur ''guidance'' na milna hoti tu phir istikhara ki zaroorat hi kia hoti ?
brother,aap logon ko tu takfiri aur fasadi keh sakte ho lekin
Allah ke diye hue ''MASHWARY'' ko kia kaho ge?
plz doosron ki niyyat pe shak na karein aur neutral ho ke sochein.
pehly mein ne bhi Zaid Hamid ki batoon se mutasir ho kar is ki full support ki .....lekin phir istakhara kia tu alhamdulillah mujh pe haqeeqat zahir ho gai ke yeh kazzab hai ......mujhe youth se yehi kehna hai ke aap log khud 2 rakaat nafal niyyat-e-istakhara ke parh kar Allah se dua mangein ke woh aap per haqeeqat khol de .....,yaqeen rakhein ke Allah aap ko zaroor sach dikha de ga kiyon ke yeh mumkin nahi hai ke koi Allah se guaidence maange aur woh us ko na de.
@awaisi74 are you working for Zaid Hamid's own group? Some of the people in the zaid hamid exposition group are clearly his old friends. Why don't you expose that fact? Do you people realize that this whole kazzab scandal could just be a distraction to make sure that people don't expose Zaid Hamid TOO MUCH? This kazzab drama is just focusing on little stuff but is not exposing Zaid Hamid as a CIA agent! Why not? Think about that...
kia ye baat kafee nahin k Main issues per baat kernay k bujaay jo Zaid Hamid kerrahay hain Aap idher udher ki baat kerain XYZ koi bhi ho ager ghulut baat keray tu Aap usko ghulut kehain ager Baat sahee ho tu Aap uski taeed kerain
contantinopole k ley900 sal tak musalamn koshish karte rahe nasib to Sultan Fateh ka tha lekin khushnasibi pane ke ley sabne koshish to ki na kya ye log Sahaba Karam r.a. se ziada aqalmand hogay nauzubillah kia sahab sawab k talabgar na the& shariat ki bat karta hai zaid hukumrano ko zani kehta hai kia 4gawah hain zaid k pas jino ne khud apni ankhon se dekha ho zina karte tum logon ne shariat ko khal bana lia hai kya maria b ka pesa hala hai jo wake up pak k shows par lag raha hai? shariat pata
kisko kehte music &parde ki bat karo tu bura man jate ho haram ke peson ki bat karo to naraz kia shariat music bay pardagi& haram ke peson se laoge? su lo khilafat ala minhaju nabuwat aygi App s.a.w. ke tareekon par amal karne se larke larkian hathon main hath dal kar kahen wake up kia ye sharan jayz hai phir kehte hain cause dekho are to jis cause ke ley kam kar rahe ho pehle khud to wese ban jao khud to ama karo khuli munfiqat karte ho Allah ke waste shariat ka name lekar ye sab mat karo
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
Yes ny forefather given blood for this my family has given shahdad yes i have raised voice for rasool-e-pak(saw)..! now as ur country shows wht u have done for pakistan u dont have any right to say anything to any pakistani ...! wahan per gooroon say degrade hongaye phr bhi unki hi uthao giri karein gaye agar tum nay kuch karna ha to pakistan mein aoo or yahan per akar job karo yahan k lie kuch karo ...!
If you had any shame in your heart or mind after we talked and explained you still come up rotten like before then good luck to you and to your mindset and to your pack. WHY I AM SAYING THIS TO YOU??? COZ if you were really a true innocent like u appear to be then you had his address and phone number. Instead of spreading falsifications that needs clarifications about him on net you would have gone striate over to him to ask directly. But you didnt.
ok if we accept your allegations ....come on stage & on media like Zaid Hamid do ......will u do that ?????
but u people r against one man & u r only one alone.......Zaid Hamid hav several thousand supporters....al highly educated ...etc.....then they all r stupids ...& ...u r alone right ....????
When you become public figure then it the right of the people to check your credentials.
And if there exists any allegations it is their right to question and ask for clarifications.
Whether I am alone or not does not matter.
At least I have the satisfaction that I did my best to clarify the doubts that I had regarding my love for the Rasool (SAW) unlike those who blindly believed someones words alone.
If I come which most probably I will in a live function along with a lot of people who were bitten by yusuf. AND we are not going to let ZH run away this time.
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
Of course you are in a disagreement. but attacking someone just coz you did four month resuch on him does not give you the right to bring up the crap his enemies are thouwing around in hope to be picked up by ppl just like you and further it with inocent point of view. LIKE I SAID IT IS GAME AND THIS GAME HAS BEEN OPEND TO FOUGHT IN OUR BACK YARD OF PAKISTAN. BUT WE ARE NOT ASLEEP. READY TO DEFEND OUR LANDS, PPL, CLASSES, VALUSE AND JANAB ZAID HAMID!!!
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
Yusuf is dead. It is NOT him ONLY his belief and ideology that is in question. If you do not believe in it then one rejects it outright. NOW if if you wholey or even partly agree with it then you do things like keep it quiet, avoid answering questions, threaten with consequences, hide behind technicalities, react, propogate that it is conspiracy, fight btw deobandi or barevely, worst is to defend the person whose ideology or belief is in question.
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
usa is all ready to invest millions of $ in pakistan to invest to build its immage in pakistan and that to combat againt bullions of $ investments to hate usa. ppl doing propoghanda against my brother are no small time crooks but are biggest enemies you can ever think of.
Bro I just saw your one comment to me about drawing. Let me say this to you. YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN YOUR OWN VISION BEFORE YOU BELIEVE OTHERS. FORM YOU OWN INDIPENDNEDT VISION AND BUILT ON IT. TRUST ME BRO YOU WONT LOSE BUT ONLY GAIN BETTERMENT AND MAYBE BECOME BEIFICENT TO OTHERS TOO.:))
and you have all the right to have your trust. but dont build your trust story on the cost of others. Go read quran with transulation. dont ask and dont answer to anyone, just read quran. it might take you an hour or day or many days but you will have your answer at the end of it.
nOW I close my arguments with this staments. Thank you and SALAM.
the reason i gave lady dian example was to let you know that at least he has given us chance to ask and clirfications, but in the rest of the world you wont even be able to question let alone demanding answers or clearifications.
@realcheetah read below I have appologiesed to you for name calling. hope you would also appologies to all of us the brothers and sisters of Janab Zaid Hamid for us he is our very beautiful, kind, humble and straight forwards teacher and a leader. Many of us love him to last extent and for this we will go far and beyound to defend him. but I also would defend you coz you also are my bro/sis.
Bro you must appologise to all of his brothers and sisters. In law it is known as Injery to feelings. you have injered my feelings and many of those I know what is happening. So I would ask for this appology, but if you dicide not to offer an oppology than it is only up to your zameer and Imann that need to tell you.
No I didnot injure your feeling. Your feelings were hurt because I did not agree with your point of view. I am with my rights. Hence no apology required.
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
C)Please dont take matters on their face values. There is saying never believe what you see. But, hay we are Muslims and we have been told you will see what Allahu Subhana wishes you to see. So have mercy on you and mercy on my beloved brother and leader Janab Zaid Hamid Sahib.
Hey he seems a great person and personally as I have said before that I do Like him. BUT that being said I will not just sit out and see him drown himself and a bunch of other people as well.
B)And the same system is in our country and even bit more because of its states of being an Islamic republic Of Pakistan. You also must never forget the groups I told you about are out to protect what was stolen from us in 1947 and just before this by British and hindoos.
Bro read my comments to you. Just come out of this mindset of yours. I can also point fingers at you. It dont cost a penny to raise figers at others. so stop with your confused mindset. It is like this; either you are on right or you are on the wrong and there is no middle bit. so try always to choose right. THAT;S ALL. LAILAH ILLIL LAHU MOHAMMAD RASOOL LILAH !!!
A)Let me give you one more example of British laws and its justice system. Lady Diana was killed and before her death she said in her one interview that she might be on target. No one believed her. Because west is always doing their jobs immaculately and with precision with very little margin of mistake if any mistake?
12)You would be doing us a great deal of favour. INVESTIGATE AND BRING THE CHARGES OUT IN THE OPEN. THIS IS MY CHALLANGE TO ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN MAKING ALLIGATIONS AGAINST JANAB ZAID HAMID SHAIB. So come out and defend your allegations and if you cannot defend your allegations then please SHUTT IT!!!
If it came to that then so be it. Will do that also but all this could be saved by just saying a few lines like" I do not believe in anything what is being reported about yusuf in the media"
Whether it is true or false is a different issue altogether.
11)I want you to do one thing only. I want you to investigate this palawa yourself and then come back to disclose just like he is supporting his arguments in the open, and if your findings support your arguments than you will find me on your side. So please do this, since you really think you are right and he out in the open is wrong.
I did for 4 months maybe more studied closely reports research works and online resources.
That is why I want clarifications from ZH. It is his right to defend himself and clear his name.
Personally i think he is getting involved where he could have easily stayed out by doing what he replied to Abidullah jan.That would have been fine and end of story .
10)Janab ZH Sahib is faced with specific group who are out to get their opponents no matter what, and Janab ZH Shaib is a hurdle in their objectives they want to achieve in Pakistan. Believe me there are more than just one Zaid Hamid that this particular group will face up against, just try it.
9)I hope you find peace in your heart for other Muslims despite of them being good or bad, it is no bodies projective or business to judge and pass their judgements basing on their little or no knowledge at all.
8)I am a Muslim and I never claimed to be a Moman (trying to be Moman though), however I have used this honourable term Momanfor Janab ZH Sahib because in my best judgement he fits the bill to have this highest title of honour from his Muslim national brothers and sisters.
6)Janab Zaid Hamid Sahib has explained everything in his explaintry video. After listening to this video you are still not convinced or satisfied than neither I nor anyone else can satisfy your hunger to know deal, which in my view is mingled, moccasin, not Islamic and therefore is a punishable crime.
4) It does not matter to me if he knew or not yusuf . Only if he agrees with yusufs beliefs as shown in the media or not. By defending him the impression I get is that he believes in yusuf perceived beliefs and that is troubling .
5) I dont give two shits even if he was buddy buddy with yusuf as long as he does not believe in his MEDIA PERCEIVED beliefs
5)Due to these various individuals and groups we see Pakistan constantly under targets, some we get to know and some we never get to know depends upon what types of operations are involved causing maximum threat/s to damage systems, personals and pillars.
4)Since birth of Pakistan; there were many who opposed and many tried to deflate newly formed country and up until now they are still at it. Those are divided in various individuals and groups to do maximum damage to systems, personals, individuals and to pillars on which states normally relay on to form a better state for the people.
3)And some of those convicted but cant be killed due became high profile, i.e., in public eyes they would declare them mental and stick them in high security prisons and pump high doses of medications a painful death. In addition, some would be killed in mysteries circumstances just like Mr. Yousaf Ali met his death. Look up famous Karays Brothers cases of 60s and 70s, you will find amazing history of British justice system.
2)they get ppl killed in prisons throw various means and objectives and no one gets to hear about these killings. Maybe one or two local news papers might stick news somewhere which mostly goes unnoticed. So in the history of British prisons many high profiles got knocked. CLEAN JOB WELL DONE.
Let me tell you something. In west the capital laws does not exist, but there is a great need for the capital laws to be implemented in order to keep the masses in control, but because of political conundrums political lobbies always say No to hanging and No to electrocution. So lack of capital punishment Britain for example and everywhere else in the western countries (USA not included),
Nice to see that at least you corrected my name this time. You still owe me an apology for using or abusing my name before , better do it and get it over with than doing it on rose e hashar.
And just on a truth note I agree with him about these fake mullahs and I hate them maybe more than he hates them. They are the biggest threat that Pakistan face.
Initially you all queries abt zaid hamid's faith...now that he brought his association with yusuf and the reason why he defended him back then...now you have a problem with us advocating yusuf...first decide what is ur agenda...wat do u want...what is bothering u...there is NO cult...we are followers of allah and rusool saws and are working towards making a better pakistan based on shariah...
As long as it stays that way I am fine with it but the moment I FEEL that it is being deviated TRUST me I ll be YOUR worst nightmare and enemy.
If you do your own research regarding YUSUF you will find out that he too was the same way till in the end. Same style ,same words and same similes. That is what bothers me.
dear cheetah - it will stay this way. DONT worry. Inshallah in a few months you'll see the change he is talking about...it will require everyone's support. DONT follow zaid hamid. Just be with the mission of making this country what it is supposed to be - the lead of the muslim ummah. Yusuf sb started off well then became corrupt with money thats what brought him down. But it wasnt false prophethood. That's the only clarification that was made.
When I hear and see ZH after listening and researching thoroughly about yusuf it is becoming extremely hard for me to differenciate between the two and THIS is what bothers me. I donot want him to end like him.
Thank you for the sincere wishes. Inshallah nothing like that would happen ever. Have faith. Just pray if u cant do anything else. Inshallah things would be clear to you. SOON!
May Almighty and rusool saws continue to bless this country, this nation, this ummah and all of us.
Janab Zaid hamid we stand with you. We will make pakistan free of filth and of those who are distorying everything good we have in Pakistan. Please coutinue with your great mission of Pakistan. We are there all the way with you and with every true Pakistani.
The victim Mr. Yousaf Ali was named Kasab just like that boy got caught in bomby attack has been named Kasab by indickn extremist hindoos and GEO network gadars.
The victim Mr. Yousaf Ali was then killed before full ruling of the case. Janab Zaid Hamid you have decided to take a firm stand against those people who are behind spreading such a highest level of hynas crimes against innocent Muslims, because you also are a victim of their murderess crimes.
Is yusuf the only innocent person left for Zaid hamid. What is it that makes him so special for Zaid Hamid that he is putting his own life on the line for dead man? I wonder.
Beta - zaid hamid was being accused of being associated with a false prophet. If you were ever accused of such a thing, wouldnt u clarify that nothing like that happened. The person was never a claimant of prophethood. That was the only thing that was conveyed. If you noticed he mentioned abt yusuf's corruption towards the end of his life in the interview. Why would he mention that if he was a follower? Lets move towards making pakistan an islamic state.
I dont care about yusufs corruption BUT i do care about his misbeliefs and that is my only concern. Nothing else and I will fight anyone who shares similar beliefs because that is what my islam tells me to do.
I wish you had listened to the whole program instead of just skimming through. The yousaf person was among the pannel of Aalm and Sir Zaid was in touch with them all back in time of General Zia. It even includes the well known Aalms of today and they too wanted a fair trial. Please note that their only concern was to follow the Sharia Law properly rather than twisting it for personal emnity. On the other issue, i never judged you my friend as i do not consider myself above other men.
and one more thing why whenever I quote and use the name " Abidullah Jan" and his reference regarding his converstaion with ZH, my comments are deleted ?
After knowing the truth now. Watching all videos. if you asked me if i know YOUSUF KAZZAB. i would say no. i dont know any kazzab... because he was't kazzab.. that was given to him through 3rd rete news paper and few MULLAS..
now u tell me if you know kazzab. ??? honestly mean honestly.... when he was't kazzab how can u say you know as that name was given to him... their was barelvi / dubandi issue involved. and thats why zaid bhai had not bring in public before.
Abdullah Jan....may be some other channel, not mine, as i only delete abuse comments.
dont know what you are trying to say about Mr Abdullah jan... i would only say to ask your Mr abdullah jan to go and see Zaid bhai... Why even not a single person visit them who put elegations on him. ?
open ur mind man... this is a game from them.. dont be on the gaming side or confiuse ur self.
The video consist on 6 parts. To some extent an A to Z of enemy activates against some Muslims in Pakistan. Please watch all six parts and make valid points to counter and to combat the enemies of Islam, Pakistan and Muslims. These Net terrorists are after and against those Pakistani movers and shakers of Pak societies who are making differences for the betterment for Pakistanis and for Pakistan. DONT LET THEM ESCAPE FREE, THEY ARE HYNAS CRIMINALS.
Now Im confirmed that there are lots of people like you (judging from your comments) who are spreading Takfiri Fitnas among a fundamentally Muslim society inside the country are liable panishments. Because of the Takfiri Fitnas been spread by Fasadis weve now indickn hindoo RAWS well created TTP terrorists. NOW TELL US ARE YOU ONE OF THEM ???
which only shows you are part of an ongoing campaign against Janab Zaid Hamid Sahib and from this knowledge, I can easily say you are part of a Tafariqh group and whoever puts a Tafariqh among the Muslims is indeed a sinner and is liable for a saver punishment.
I'm amazed at almost everyone here! It is not a matter of protecting Mr. Yousaf or anyone else! It is a matter of safeguarding the true Islamic Social Justice system where no man can be punished unless proven to be guilty and where the accused, if wrong, will also be liable for punishment. I think many of us here did not listen with utmost concentration. May Allah give us a million more like Zaid Hamid who has the courage to protect the noble laws of Sharia... MashAllah!
What is in your heart only you and Allah knows butI can only guess based upon your writings. And for beginners your distorting my name alone tells me HOW MUCH of a good MUSLIM are you ?It comes under "Amaal-e-Ba'ad" and I am sure your MOMEN Zaid Sahib must have told you something about that as well. Allah will forgive Haqoq Allah but if you violate Huqoq al Ba'ad then only that person can forgive you at rose e hashar. You just violated my Haq and I am telling you that u will need my forgiveness
@realchuteeia...I can hunt you down for this and can skin you like I would skin an animal after beheading their small heads. May you napak ppl burn in hell for this. Really want to see your satanic burning with fire faces. Come out of your hiding holes. Stop hiding and time to face your lies about janab Zaid Hamid and about many other ppl in Pakistan. .
What else can one expect from a BLIND Zaid Hamid follower ?
May Allah guide you .
I am only afraid of Allah and you people do not scare me
One last thing for you and people like you that you I have , had and most probably will be dealing with people like you in future because I am a truth seeker unlike you.
And lets see who hunts who ?
There is another amongst you who even threatened to get his FIA uncle involved (what a loser) against me try that also lets see who gets what ?
In this whole statement what exactly is it that you do not agree with? I really want to know! Is it the True process of Islamic justice system or just a person you dont like?
Actually I do like Zaid Hamid alot because he has brought nationalism to pakistanis. What I do not like is his denial or running away from the truth and then countering it through threatening consequenses if someone challenges him. If a person can question Hazrat Umar (RA) then who is HE?
When one points a finger at someone and says you are not a Muslim and that person turns out to be a Muslim then you have made a falsified accusation against this person and in Islam the punishment of this is crimes is very saver.
And how do you know that those accusations are false especially when you are not accepting the courts to begin with as Islamic.
If a murder has happened and cannot be proved in a court of law then does it mean that the murder did not take place ?
Because ZH says that the court that he himself does not consider islamic said that the charges were not proved so I am to believe him ? What kinda mind set is that ?
He needs to get this out of his head that people are out to get him because of Yusuf. NO they are out to get you out of the scare that you might end up doing the same thing also.
That is the fear that he needs to address and defending Yusuf does not help TRUST ME it does not. In simple it did not impress me one bit tell me how will it satisfy his die hard opponents?
Why fuel to fire? What a stupid statement./ Are you aware of the shariah laws? Do you know what is the punishment of the accuser? If you knew you wouldnt have the audacity to say a word after this clarification. Be feaful of khuda and rusool saws.
One of the pre requisites of Sharia Law implementation is the creation of a welfare state. You cannot implement sharia laws till your state is a welfare state. IS PAKISTAN a welfare state ?
And secondly where have I accused anyone? Please tell me?
Asking for a clarification is NOT accusing ?
I am only following Allah and Rasools saying that do not believe in a SUNI Sunai baat. It also applies to ZH. Am I to believe ZH only and not the others ?
No one told to believe zaid hamid. You dont want to. DONT. Clarification has been made. If you dont understand it, please dont waste your energy coming up with stuff...please put ur energy towards something positive...why is zaid hamid bothering u so much? :). And inshallh a welfare state would be made. U dont worry about that. God bless u!
Inshallah with or without ZH Pakistan will become a welfare state. No disagreement on that.
Defending yusuf is NOT a clarification.
The question is does ZH believe in what yusuf was accused of the distorted version of Noor faiz that is the " FAIZ NOOR" was created before the world . It is fine till here but it gets complicated when people start saying that it still exists, it is still fine BUT BUT when ppl claim to be the possessor then the problem starts.
then in one of his last speeches e mentioned about "Noor Faiz" on the people of Pakistan. It is fine till here but againg that is exactly what Yusuf said and later (according to media reports) claimed to be in possession of that noor himself. that is what scares me because that will be as per my understanding be mounting to blasphemy coz then (NA) you are under the disguise of noor faiz claiming to be a prophet (NA) .
It is a very touchy and serious matter that he must explain.
uff...its crazy...we all are noor pf allah and rusool saws...ask any mufti, scholar or even a mullah. no one is in possesion of the noor...it is there in our souls, our spirit our hearts...please get out of this confusion mode..if u cant understand, leave us...simple...why even waste ur energy on us?
ask yusuf OR allah mian about whateva u r reffering to. why would u ask zaid hamid about anything that yusuf said. For god's sakes, get over it. Let allah decide who was the culprit. Zaid Hamid has told u the facts that he knew. And please read shah wali ullah or mujadid alf sani. That would help u understand some concepts and might give u some answers too. :). God bless.
Is it a coincidence that his words have stark similarities to that of Yusuf ?
Yusuf also propagated Khilafat in the beginning (according to them) and later his corrupt intellect kicked in and he started talking about other stuff and when I read his die hard you tubers claiming that he helped us with seeing Holy prophet (saw) and Iqbal in dreams etc then yusufs story flashed right in my mind and I was really upset and I confronted that person but he held to his story.
Dear - read up on khilafat? What is khilafat? Are yoiu even aware of the true meaning? If NOT please refrain from confusing others. Yusuf never claimed nabuwat and even the judgement of the court says so when they accused him of khilafat and in bristish court system a mere session court judge doesnt know a single thing about waht khilafat is? If they werent afraid of the matter being reviewed by fderal shraiat court, why did they get yusuf killed in the jail?! Just think before you question.
What he fails to understand is that people are NOT exactly worried about his previous relations with Yusuf but what bothers me and alot of others is that if he believes in what is attributed in the media about yusuf.
Is he associated with that cult or not. When according to them Yusuf instructed his followers to hide for 5 or 10 years and then restart the movement. That is what is troubling. Is he building his movement on yusufs beliefs or not. Thats what he needs to deny
and NO he isnt building the movement on yusuf's beliefs...he is building it on la illaha illalaho muhammad ur rasoolallah...do you have a probelem with the kalma too?
No he isnt associated to any cult. Just a follower of allah and rusool saws. This movement has nothing to do with yusuf sb. It is to do with allah, rusool saws and has iqbal's ideology. Thats exactly wat the 250 programs have preached. Never ever ZH preached anything other than ishq e rusool saws. Thats the only pre-requisite and the world is ours!
Thank You for Uploading this. Pakistan is a country Divided.
Use THIS man to UNITE.
Always Remember the truth ALWAYS surfaces. So... if ZH is really bad, ALLAH WILL expose it now or later.
But, we do not HEED this man's advise, then I think were really Stupid, Ignorant and Egoistic !
A true Muslim WILL follow the Al Quran and Footsteps of the Holy Prophet Muhammad SAW - Not Shirk.
If shirk surfaces, THEN we destroy it.
Until then STOP jumping to conclusions and Passing Judgement.
trulybeautiful786 2 months ago
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******************************A HUMBLE REQUEST*********************************
If anyone of you want to make any accusation on Zaid Hamid, please provide solid evidence before doing it otherwise you will be held responsible for it on the day of judgement.
Dovailor 1 year ago
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"Aap ko aaj bhi ikhteyar hai, jayay Abdul Rahman Ashrafi ke paas, Maulana Abdul se pooch lijiye" -- said by Zaid Hamid on video and proven a lie!!!
Mian Mithoo ne apni kabar khud hi khod di, ye kya chakkar hai? Mujhe samaj nahi ati ke kya is ka irada khud kushi hai ya koi aur takleef hai is haramzaday ko?
maqsad1 1 year ago
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The main people who care about dragging this annoying Yousaf blasphemy issue on and on and on and on and on and on are Zaid Hamid's group themselves.
Also Zaid Hamid could have ended this issue more than a year ago by saying he doesn't support Yousaf Ali and doesn't support blasphemy but Zaid Hamid kept this issue going for months and months and months.
So who is still dragging this issue on and on and why?
maqsad1 1 year ago
May Allah subhan-wa-tala show us the right path.
sabahmunir 1 year ago
I came to know about Yousef today, and i was shocked about the videos & audio i heard about them. At the end what my mind said is, we should study Quran & Sunnah by ourself, & then we should try to follow scholars. This is the main cause of fitna, we muslims try to take shortcuts, follow that peer, follow that molwi, this person saying some thing, that person is saying something else. If we had studied Quran & sunnah ourself, then there will be no confusions, and we will easily be able to judge.
sabahmunir 1 year ago
@raqib56
agar aap ko istikhara ke mutaliq kuch pata nahi tu is mein kisi ka kia qasoor hai? kia aap ko pata hai ke khud Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) ne istikhara karne ki talqeen farmaee thi ?
agar ''hidayat ''aur ''guidance'' na milna hoti tu phir istikhara ki zaroorat hi kia hoti ?
brother,aap logon ko tu takfiri aur fasadi keh sakte ho lekin
Allah ke diye hue ''MASHWARY'' ko kia kaho ge?
plz doosron ki niyyat pe shak na karein aur neutral ho ke sochein.
awaisi74 1 year ago
pehly mein ne bhi Zaid Hamid ki batoon se mutasir ho kar is ki full support ki .....lekin phir istakhara kia tu alhamdulillah mujh pe haqeeqat zahir ho gai ke yeh kazzab hai ......mujhe youth se yehi kehna hai ke aap log khud 2 rakaat nafal niyyat-e-istakhara ke parh kar Allah se dua mangein ke woh aap per haqeeqat khol de .....,yaqeen rakhein ke Allah aap ko zaroor sach dikha de ga kiyon ke yeh mumkin nahi hai ke koi Allah se guaidence maange aur woh us ko na de.
awaisi74 1 year ago 3
u r ryt mr awais !
gang868 1 year ago
@awaisi74,
istakhara se app par ilham hogaya ! isko
fitnah keliye use karna kufr aur shaitan he, aur ulta muhn par parta he,
App yaqeenan wazu karna bhool gaye hongay, aap ki qamash ke logon ne
istakhara Hinduon ki tarha istemaal karna
shuroo kardia he, aapne khud hi keh diya
akhir mein " guidance maange " , kisi par
ghalat ilzamtarashi nahin.
Khabren Akhbaar to he hi aik shar, laikin
Jasarat ne afwah aur badniyati ka suboot dediya, ! becharay shikast khordah deeni businessmen !
raqib56 1 year ago
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@awaisi74 are you working for Zaid Hamid's own group? Some of the people in the zaid hamid exposition group are clearly his old friends. Why don't you expose that fact? Do you people realize that this whole kazzab scandal could just be a distraction to make sure that people don't expose Zaid Hamid TOO MUCH? This kazzab drama is just focusing on little stuff but is not exposing Zaid Hamid as a CIA agent! Why not? Think about that...
maqsad1 1 year ago
yaar ap sab aik baat btaein k is banday zaid zaman ya zaid hamid ne apna name kun change kia ?
why?
is he zaid hamid or zaid zaman??
sasifrehman 1 year ago
hi name is still Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid
xuhaeb 1 year ago
arrest all those spreading terrorism !!
Aadam313 1 year ago
kia ye baat kafee nahin k Main issues per baat kernay k bujaay jo Zaid Hamid kerrahay hain Aap idher udher ki baat kerain XYZ koi bhi ho ager ghulut baat keray tu Aap usko ghulut kehain ager Baat sahee ho tu Aap uski taeed kerain
sadiqazia 2 years ago
contantinopole k ley900 sal tak musalamn koshish karte rahe nasib to Sultan Fateh ka tha lekin khushnasibi pane ke ley sabne koshish to ki na kya ye log Sahaba Karam r.a. se ziada aqalmand hogay nauzubillah kia sahab sawab k talabgar na the& shariat ki bat karta hai zaid hukumrano ko zani kehta hai kia 4gawah hain zaid k pas jino ne khud apni ankhon se dekha ho zina karte tum logon ne shariat ko khal bana lia hai kya maria b ka pesa hala hai jo wake up pak k shows par lag raha hai? shariat pata
bilalmnk 2 years ago
kisko kehte music &parde ki bat karo tu bura man jate ho haram ke peson ki bat karo to naraz kia shariat music bay pardagi& haram ke peson se laoge? su lo khilafat ala minhaju nabuwat aygi App s.a.w. ke tareekon par amal karne se larke larkian hathon main hath dal kar kahen wake up kia ye sharan jayz hai phir kehte hain cause dekho are to jis cause ke ley kam kar rahe ho pehle khud to wese ban jao khud to ama karo khuli munfiqat karte ho Allah ke waste shariat ka name lekar ye sab mat karo
bilalmnk 2 years ago
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
matrixadnan 2 years ago
@matrixadnan
Have you stood up in Pishin, Siachen, Sialkot or Wagah to defend this country?
Have you given your blood to protect this country?
Have you given shaheeds for this country?
Have you defended Pakistan anywhere outside Of Pakistan?
Have you raised your voice at least for the honor of Rasool -e-Pak (SAW) ?
Have u raised your voice for the ppl of Pakistan ?
Once you are done with defending controversial people on you tube and when you do these above mentioned things then talk to me....
realcheetah 2 years ago
Yes ny forefather given blood for this my family has given shahdad yes i have raised voice for rasool-e-pak(saw)..! now as ur country shows wht u have done for pakistan u dont have any right to say anything to any pakistani ...! wahan per gooroon say degrade hongaye phr bhi unki hi uthao giri karein gaye agar tum nay kuch karna ha to pakistan mein aoo or yahan per akar job karo yahan k lie kuch karo ...!
matrixadnan 2 years ago
That is exactly what I do for and IN Pakistan and cannot watch my country go down the drain.
And I am talking about YOUR OWN blood not your forefathers.
If you want to defend Pakistan then do that of your own free will,passion and commitment and NOT because of someone's BLIND following...
realcheetah 2 years ago
bhaai Mr realcheetah have u done all these "above mentioned things" ??
xuhaeb 1 year ago
These Malvies should br hanged, without any investigation they call innocent people Kafir
bundukhan100 2 years ago
The kassabs are those who named Yusaf Ali a Kassab.
Allah's lanath on these napak paleeth ppl who killed and deraild the caurse of justice.
May Yusaf Ali rest in peace and rahmanh of Allahu Subhanah. Amen.
BISMILAH IRAHMAN NIRAHEEM.
KUL HUWALAH OAHAD ALLAH USAMAD LAM YA LID WALUM U LAAD WALUM YA KUN LA HO KUFUN AHAD. AMEN.
PLZ OFFER YOUR FATIAH FOR YUSAF ALI'S MUGFARIT.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 6
If you had any shame in your heart or mind after we talked and explained you still come up rotten like before then good luck to you and to your mindset and to your pack. WHY I AM SAYING THIS TO YOU??? COZ if you were really a true innocent like u appear to be then you had his address and phone number. Instead of spreading falsifications that needs clarifications about him on net you would have gone striate over to him to ask directly. But you didnt.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 5
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And are you calling me shameless ?
Unless you have known ZH for more than 14 years dont even mention it to me.
realcheetah 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Infact you know what you arent worth it ....I am done with ya...
You can keep your views and your leader sacred.
Good luck
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
ok if we accept your allegations ....come on stage & on media like Zaid Hamid do ......will u do that ?????
but u people r against one man & u r only one alone.......Zaid Hamid hav several thousand supporters....al highly educated ...etc.....then they all r stupids ...& ...u r alone right ....????
haider5555 2 years ago
Am I a public figure trying to become a leader ??
When you become public figure then it the right of the people to check your credentials.
And if there exists any allegations it is their right to question and ask for clarifications.
Whether I am alone or not does not matter.
At least I have the satisfaction that I did my best to clarify the doubts that I had regarding my love for the Rasool (SAW) unlike those who blindly believed someones words alone.
realcheetah 2 years ago
And you mentioned that highly educated people are supporting him.
Can you call DR Israr yourself and ask him about this issue?
You might be surprised with his answer.
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
No i am talking about you...not Dr. Israr or what ever.....
Pakistan Zindabad
haider5555 2 years ago
@haider5555
If I come which most probably I will in a live function along with a lot of people who were bitten by yusuf. AND we are not going to let ZH run away this time.
You can keep your josh to urself .
realcheetah 2 years ago
We just wanted ZH to clear his name which I do not think that he is interested in any more. So be it then...
realcheetah 2 years ago
oye make your point about wot u r on about? he made it clear and we get it but u didnt. so tell us wot happed?
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 2
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matrixadnan 2 years ago
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matrixadnan 2 years ago
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matrixadnan 2 years ago
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matrixadnan 2 years ago
Of course you are in a disagreement. but attacking someone just coz you did four month resuch on him does not give you the right to bring up the crap his enemies are thouwing around in hope to be picked up by ppl just like you and further it with inocent point of view. LIKE I SAID IT IS GAME AND THIS GAME HAS BEEN OPEND TO FOUGHT IN OUR BACK YARD OF PAKISTAN. BUT WE ARE NOT ASLEEP. READY TO DEFEND OUR LANDS, PPL, CLASSES, VALUSE AND JANAB ZAID HAMID!!!
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 3
Well then all ZH needs is a one liner ie
"I donot believe in the media perceived ideology of yusuf ali."
How difficult is it ?? unless you believe in it.
realcheetah 2 years ago
One liner answer for your satisfaction....omm ...
He had recited KALIMAH SAHADAH in front of all of us.
But of course you wont believe in KALIMAH SAHADAH now would you?
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 4
You really have not seen all the evidence against yusuf other wise you would never defend anyone even remotely related to yusuf so vehemently.
I want to send u a link and then read that research and tell me if it is all lies.
realcheetah 2 years ago
You really dont realize what you have just said.
Let me give you a shortie.
If you think that I dont know Zaid Hamid ...think again.
How much really do you know him and how long have you known him for ?
Then I ll tell since when and for how long have I known ZH.
You might be really surprised ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
I really do not want to mention all this in here but where do you want me to start with
Is " Firqa-e-Batinya" a good start?
realcheetah 2 years ago
realcheetah lives in united states and he is not even in pakistan and he is soo much worried about pakistan wht a shit sala obama ki ghulami karny walay ab bolraha hain yeh salay wahan per rah kar pakistan ko boltay hain aiso ko gali deni chaiye they have no rigths to say any thing about pakistan or pakistani ....!
matrixadnan 2 years ago
Dont know about others but this one liner is good enough for me and will shut me up
realcheetah 2 years ago
Yusuf is dead. It is NOT him ONLY his belief and ideology that is in question. If you do not believe in it then one rejects it outright. NOW if if you wholey or even partly agree with it then you do things like keep it quiet, avoid answering questions, threaten with consequences, hide behind technicalities, react, propogate that it is conspiracy, fight btw deobandi or barevely, worst is to defend the person whose ideology or belief is in question.
Am I the only idiot who thinks this way ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
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PakUniversalVision 2 years ago
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matrixadnan 2 years ago
usa is all ready to invest millions of $ in pakistan to invest to build its immage in pakistan and that to combat againt bullions of $ investments to hate usa. ppl doing propoghanda against my brother are no small time crooks but are biggest enemies you can ever think of.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 2
That is again debatable Pakistan is not exactly a major concern among the US public. They have other bigger matters to worry about.
In Pakistan a lot people think that Pakistan is all the US thinks all the time which is just not true.
realcheetah 2 years ago
No of course not.. americans don't give hoot about Pakistan or pakistanis. it is all about the big game bro.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 2
Yup.
realcheetah 2 years ago
I leave it to your imman and zameer. Muslim is a Muslim. Enemies and with their values we would get no appology.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
@Coweaterindicka
Still havent seen an apology for abusing my name yet . Please do that .
Thanks
realcheetah 2 years ago
YUP YOU GOT MY APPOLOGY.
I got upset. like i said i am not a moman trying. hope you would forgive me. salam.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 2
ok
i forgive you just donot do it again.
realcheetah 2 years ago
thannkkk yoooo:))
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
@realcheetah
Bro I just saw your one comment to me about drawing. Let me say this to you. YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN YOUR OWN VISION BEFORE YOU BELIEVE OTHERS. FORM YOU OWN INDIPENDNEDT VISION AND BUILT ON IT. TRUST ME BRO YOU WONT LOSE BUT ONLY GAIN BETTERMENT AND MAYBE BECOME BEIFICENT TO OTHERS TOO.:))
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
what drawing ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
where?
realcheetah 2 years ago
he is as clear as clearest it can get.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
I wish that I could say the same but unfortunately not yet .
Till my heart is satisfied my quest goes on.
Truth is my objective, even if it is HARD, COLD,RUTHLESS AND BITTER.
realcheetah 2 years ago
and you have all the right to have your trust. but dont build your trust story on the cost of others. Go read quran with transulation. dont ask and dont answer to anyone, just read quran. it might take you an hour or day or many days but you will have your answer at the end of it.
nOW I close my arguments with this staments. Thank you and SALAM.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
the reason i gave lady dian example was to let you know that at least he has given us chance to ask and clirfications, but in the rest of the world you wont even be able to question let alone demanding answers or clearifications.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
you have a point here.
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah read below I have appologiesed to you for name calling. hope you would also appologies to all of us the brothers and sisters of Janab Zaid Hamid for us he is our very beautiful, kind, humble and straight forwards teacher and a leader. Many of us love him to last extent and for this we will go far and beyound to defend him. but I also would defend you coz you also are my bro/sis.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
I didnot accuse or abuse ZH and no apologies are required for disagreements or clarifications.
However no offense intended by intent so none should be taken.
If I have hurt someone please let me know where and I will apologize if it was out of anger or intent.
realcheetah 2 years ago
Bro you must appologise to all of his brothers and sisters. In law it is known as Injery to feelings. you have injered my feelings and many of those I know what is happening. So I would ask for this appology, but if you dicide not to offer an oppology than it is only up to your zameer and Imann that need to tell you.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
No I didnot injure your feeling. Your feelings were hurt because I did not agree with your point of view. I am with my rights. Hence no apology required.
Let Allah be the witness :)
Peace
realcheetah 2 years ago
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matrixadnan 2 years ago
Beautiful : dont know
Kind : maybe
Humble : seems like
straight forward : Dont think so
teacher : need to know his qualifications
leader : No not mine...yet
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
C)Please dont take matters on their face values. There is saying never believe what you see. But, hay we are Muslims and we have been told you will see what Allahu Subhana wishes you to see. So have mercy on you and mercy on my beloved brother and leader Janab Zaid Hamid Sahib.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
:)
Hey he seems a great person and personally as I have said before that I do Like him. BUT that being said I will not just sit out and see him drown himself and a bunch of other people as well.
The end must justify the means
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
B)And the same system is in our country and even bit more because of its states of being an Islamic republic Of Pakistan. You also must never forget the groups I told you about are out to protect what was stolen from us in 1947 and just before this by British and hindoos.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
confused ? like what please explain?
realcheetah 2 years ago
Bro read my comments to you. Just come out of this mindset of yours. I can also point fingers at you. It dont cost a penny to raise figers at others. so stop with your confused mindset. It is like this; either you are on right or you are on the wrong and there is no middle bit. so try always to choose right. THAT;S ALL. LAILAH ILLIL LAHU MOHAMMAD RASOOL LILAH !!!
NAUZUBILLAH HIMINISITAN NIRAJEEM!!!
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
I am very clear man only wish ZH was as clear also.
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
A)Let me give you one more example of British laws and its justice system. Lady Diana was killed and before her death she said in her one interview that she might be on target. No one believed her. Because west is always doing their jobs immaculately and with precision with very little margin of mistake if any mistake?
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
Lady Dianna is not what I am interested in and neither is the Western System.
Been there seen it .
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
12)You would be doing us a great deal of favour. INVESTIGATE AND BRING THE CHARGES OUT IN THE OPEN. THIS IS MY CHALLANGE TO ALL OF YOU GUYS WHO HAVE BEEN MAKING ALLIGATIONS AGAINST JANAB ZAID HAMID SHAIB. So come out and defend your allegations and if you cannot defend your allegations then please SHUTT IT!!!
THE END
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
If it came to that then so be it. Will do that also but all this could be saved by just saying a few lines like" I do not believe in anything what is being reported about yusuf in the media"
Whether it is true or false is a different issue altogether.
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
11)I want you to do one thing only. I want you to investigate this palawa yourself and then come back to disclose just like he is supporting his arguments in the open, and if your findings support your arguments than you will find me on your side. So please do this, since you really think you are right and he out in the open is wrong.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
I did for 4 months maybe more studied closely reports research works and online resources.
That is why I want clarifications from ZH. It is his right to defend himself and clear his name.
Personally i think he is getting involved where he could have easily stayed out by doing what he replied to Abidullah jan.That would have been fine and end of story .
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
10)Janab ZH Sahib is faced with specific group who are out to get their opponents no matter what, and Janab ZH Shaib is a hurdle in their objectives they want to achieve in Pakistan. Believe me there are more than just one Zaid Hamid that this particular group will face up against, just try it.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
not interested in this either
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
9)I hope you find peace in your heart for other Muslims despite of them being good or bad, it is no bodies projective or business to judge and pass their judgements basing on their little or no knowledge at all.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
agreed no contest on this
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
8)I am a Muslim and I never claimed to be a Moman (trying to be Moman though), however I have used this honourable term Momanfor Janab ZH Sahib because in my best judgement he fits the bill to have this highest title of honour from his Muslim national brothers and sisters.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
I am not sure about this and his behavior does not encourage me either so far.
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
7)After joining utube garbages bandwagon, Ive decided to defend our country, our people, our Islam, our values and our Pakistani nationalism.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
thats applaudable
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
6)Janab Zaid Hamid Sahib has explained everything in his explaintry video. After listening to this video you are still not convinced or satisfied than neither I nor anyone else can satisfy your hunger to know deal, which in my view is mingled, moccasin, not Islamic and therefore is a punishable crime.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
Disagree.
1)You cannot force me to accept what does not satisfy my heart.
2)If you have read all the material against yusuf that by the available online, if it did not boil your blood then i dont know wht will
3)I am only looking for a statement from ZH in which he disassociates himself from the perceived media belief of yusuf nothing else.
realcheetah 2 years ago
4) It does not matter to me if he knew or not yusuf . Only if he agrees with yusufs beliefs as shown in the media or not. By defending him the impression I get is that he believes in yusuf perceived beliefs and that is troubling .
5) I dont give two shits even if he was buddy buddy with yusuf as long as he does not believe in his MEDIA PERCEIVED beliefs
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
5)Due to these various individuals and groups we see Pakistan constantly under targets, some we get to know and some we never get to know depends upon what types of operations are involved causing maximum threat/s to damage systems, personals and pillars.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
true and it includes our famous isi also
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
4)Since birth of Pakistan; there were many who opposed and many tried to deflate newly formed country and up until now they are still at it. Those are divided in various individuals and groups to do maximum damage to systems, personals, individuals and to pillars on which states normally relay on to form a better state for the people.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
agreed and true
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
3)And some of those convicted but cant be killed due became high profile, i.e., in public eyes they would declare them mental and stick them in high security prisons and pump high doses of medications a painful death. In addition, some would be killed in mysteries circumstances just like Mr. Yousaf Ali met his death. Look up famous Karays Brothers cases of 60s and 70s, you will find amazing history of British justice system.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
yusuf alis was a publicized case.
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
2)they get ppl killed in prisons throw various means and objectives and no one gets to hear about these killings. Maybe one or two local news papers might stick news somewhere which mostly goes unnoticed. So in the history of British prisons many high profiles got knocked. CLEAN JOB WELL DONE.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
true
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
1)Lets begin with your arguments.
Let me tell you something. In west the capital laws does not exist, but there is a great need for the capital laws to be implemented in order to keep the masses in control, but because of political conundrums political lobbies always say No to hanging and No to electrocution. So lack of capital punishment Britain for example and everywhere else in the western countries (USA not included),
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
Nice to see that at least you corrected my name this time. You still owe me an apology for using or abusing my name before , better do it and get it over with than doing it on rose e hashar.
realcheetah 2 years ago
And just on a truth note I agree with him about these fake mullahs and I hate them maybe more than he hates them. They are the biggest threat that Pakistan face.
realcheetah 2 years ago
Initially you all queries abt zaid hamid's faith...now that he brought his association with yusuf and the reason why he defended him back then...now you have a problem with us advocating yusuf...first decide what is ur agenda...wat do u want...what is bothering u...there is NO cult...we are followers of allah and rusool saws and are working towards making a better pakistan based on shariah...
wheeof 2 years ago
As long as it stays that way I am fine with it but the moment I FEEL that it is being deviated TRUST me I ll be YOUR worst nightmare and enemy.
If you do your own research regarding YUSUF you will find out that he too was the same way till in the end. Same style ,same words and same similes. That is what bothers me.
realcheetah 2 years ago
dear cheetah - it will stay this way. DONT worry. Inshallah in a few months you'll see the change he is talking about...it will require everyone's support. DONT follow zaid hamid. Just be with the mission of making this country what it is supposed to be - the lead of the muslim ummah. Yusuf sb started off well then became corrupt with money thats what brought him down. But it wasnt false prophethood. That's the only clarification that was made.
wheeof 2 years ago
I know it was not your intention but please correct your statement above so that it does not create unnecessary confusions.
You wrote " But it wasnt false prophethood"
What is this suppose to mean?
Please be clear
realcheetah 2 years ago
When I hear and see ZH after listening and researching thoroughly about yusuf it is becoming extremely hard for me to differenciate between the two and THIS is what bothers me. I donot want him to end like him.
realcheetah 2 years ago
Thank you for the sincere wishes. Inshallah nothing like that would happen ever. Have faith. Just pray if u cant do anything else. Inshallah things would be clear to you. SOON!
May Almighty and rusool saws continue to bless this country, this nation, this ummah and all of us.
wheeof 2 years ago
Janab Zaid hamid we stand with you. We will make pakistan free of filth and of those who are distorying everything good we have in Pakistan. Please coutinue with your great mission of Pakistan. We are there all the way with you and with every true Pakistani.
PAKISTAN
ZINDABAD..
ZAID HAMID
PAINDABAD!
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 2
The victim Mr. Yousaf Ali was named Kasab just like that boy got caught in bomby attack has been named Kasab by indickn extremist hindoos and GEO network gadars.
The victim Mr. Yousaf Ali was then killed before full ruling of the case. Janab Zaid Hamid you have decided to take a firm stand against those people who are behind spreading such a highest level of hynas crimes against innocent Muslims, because you also are a victim of their murderess crimes.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 2
Is yusuf the only innocent person left for Zaid hamid. What is it that makes him so special for Zaid Hamid that he is putting his own life on the line for dead man? I wonder.
Why just him and not others?
realcheetah 2 years ago
Beta - zaid hamid was being accused of being associated with a false prophet. If you were ever accused of such a thing, wouldnt u clarify that nothing like that happened. The person was never a claimant of prophethood. That was the only thing that was conveyed. If you noticed he mentioned abt yusuf's corruption towards the end of his life in the interview. Why would he mention that if he was a follower? Lets move towards making pakistan an islamic state.
wheeof 2 years ago
I dont care about yusufs corruption BUT i do care about his misbeliefs and that is my only concern. Nothing else and I will fight anyone who shares similar beliefs because that is what my islam tells me to do.
realcheetah 2 years ago
I wish you had listened to the whole program instead of just skimming through. The yousaf person was among the pannel of Aalm and Sir Zaid was in touch with them all back in time of General Zia. It even includes the well known Aalms of today and they too wanted a fair trial. Please note that their only concern was to follow the Sharia Law properly rather than twisting it for personal emnity. On the other issue, i never judged you my friend as i do not consider myself above other men.
haider2026 2 years ago
I did listen to not only this but almost all of his programs. And am even keeping a record of them.
Just make me understand that :
Why till now he took the cover of a technicality that I dont know yusuf "kazzab" . Kazzab being the technicality ?
Does a truthful person ( I am not judging just hypothetical)
take cover under such technicalities ?
Convince me please. Can you ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
and one more thing why whenever I quote and use the name " Abidullah Jan" and his reference regarding his converstaion with ZH, my comments are deleted ?
why ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realcheetah
After knowing the truth now. Watching all videos. if you asked me if i know YOUSUF KAZZAB. i would say no. i dont know any kazzab... because he was't kazzab.. that was given to him through 3rd rete news paper and few MULLAS..
now u tell me if you know kazzab. ??? honestly mean honestly.... when he was't kazzab how can u say you know as that name was given to him... their was barelvi / dubandi issue involved. and thats why zaid bhai had not bring in public before.
Saheeen 2 years ago
Just Google any research that is easily available online regarding Yusuf
Tell me these are all lies?
Yusufs childhood, his career, his foreign trips, his money extortion from people (witnesses) for seeing Rasool (SAW),
his brother and his brothers wife etc, all the other girls even the Assembly of Muslim Youth are all liars?
Only Yusuf and ZH are telling the truth.?
Everyone but them are all liars ??
realcheetah 2 years ago
Abdullah Jan....may be some other channel, not mine, as i only delete abuse comments.
dont know what you are trying to say about Mr Abdullah jan... i would only say to ask your Mr abdullah jan to go and see Zaid bhai... Why even not a single person visit them who put elegations on him. ?
open ur mind man... this is a game from them.. dont be on the gaming side or confiuse ur self.
Saheeen 2 years ago
Whose game ?
Who are the players ?
And what are they going to achieve ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
The video consist on 6 parts. To some extent an A to Z of enemy activates against some Muslims in Pakistan. Please watch all six parts and make valid points to counter and to combat the enemies of Islam, Pakistan and Muslims. These Net terrorists are after and against those Pakistani movers and shakers of Pak societies who are making differences for the betterment for Pakistanis and for Pakistan. DONT LET THEM ESCAPE FREE, THEY ARE HYNAS CRIMINALS.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago 2
Giving Judgement again??
realcheetah 2 years ago
4) @realchuteeia
Now Im confirmed that there are lots of people like you (judging from your comments) who are spreading Takfiri Fitnas among a fundamentally Muslim society inside the country are liable panishments. Because of the Takfiri Fitnas been spread by Fasadis weve now indickn hindoo RAWS well created TTP terrorists. NOW TELL US ARE YOU ONE OF THEM ???
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
3) @realchuteeia
which only shows you are part of an ongoing campaign against Janab Zaid Hamid Sahib and from this knowledge, I can easily say you are part of a Tafariqh group and whoever puts a Tafariqh among the Muslims is indeed a sinner and is liable for a saver punishment.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
And who is accusing me as a Kafir without any proof NOW . Where is your Islam now.
Since so have accused me now can you prove it. If not what should be done to you according to Islamic laws?
realcheetah 2 years ago
2) @realchuteeia
Allahumdulliah I am a Muslim.
Allahumdulliah Janab Zaid Hamid Sahib also is a Moman Muslim.
I dont know about your faith or beliefs, however, here you are seen trying to target Janab Zaid Hamid Sahib on UTube with biased and maligned stands,
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
I'm amazed at almost everyone here! It is not a matter of protecting Mr. Yousaf or anyone else! It is a matter of safeguarding the true Islamic Social Justice system where no man can be punished unless proven to be guilty and where the accused, if wrong, will also be liable for punishment. I think many of us here did not listen with utmost concentration. May Allah give us a million more like Zaid Hamid who has the courage to protect the noble laws of Sharia... MashAllah!
haider2026 2 years ago
What is in your heart only you and Allah knows butI can only guess based upon your writings. And for beginners your distorting my name alone tells me HOW MUCH of a good MUSLIM are you ?It comes under "Amaal-e-Ba'ad" and I am sure your MOMEN Zaid Sahib must have told you something about that as well. Allah will forgive Haqoq Allah but if you violate Huqoq al Ba'ad then only that person can forgive you at rose e hashar. You just violated my Haq and I am telling you that u will need my forgiveness
realcheetah 2 years ago
@realchuteeia...I can hunt you down for this and can skin you like I would skin an animal after beheading their small heads. May you napak ppl burn in hell for this. Really want to see your satanic burning with fire faces. Come out of your hiding holes. Stop hiding and time to face your lies about janab Zaid Hamid and about many other ppl in Pakistan. .
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
@CowEaterdicka
What else can one expect from a BLIND Zaid Hamid follower ?
May Allah guide you .
I am only afraid of Allah and you people do not scare me
One last thing for you and people like you that you I have , had and most probably will be dealing with people like you in future because I am a truth seeker unlike you.
And lets see who hunts who ?
There is another amongst you who even threatened to get his FIA uncle involved (what a loser) against me try that also lets see who gets what ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
In this whole statement what exactly is it that you do not agree with? I really want to know! Is it the True process of Islamic justice system or just a person you dont like?
haider2026 2 years ago
@haider2026
Actually I do like Zaid Hamid alot because he has brought nationalism to pakistanis. What I do not like is his denial or running away from the truth and then countering it through threatening consequenses if someone challenges him. If a person can question Hazrat Umar (RA) then who is HE?
realcheetah 2 years ago
1)@realchuteeia
When one points a finger at someone and says you are not a Muslim and that person turns out to be a Muslim then you have made a falsified accusation against this person and in Islam the punishment of this is crimes is very saver.
CowEaterindicka 2 years ago
And how do you know that those accusations are false especially when you are not accepting the courts to begin with as Islamic.
If a murder has happened and cannot be proved in a court of law then does it mean that the murder did not take place ?
Because ZH says that the court that he himself does not consider islamic said that the charges were not proved so I am to believe him ? What kinda mind set is that ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
He needs to get this out of his head that people are out to get him because of Yusuf. NO they are out to get you out of the scare that you might end up doing the same thing also.
That is the fear that he needs to address and defending Yusuf does not help TRUST ME it does not. In simple it did not impress me one bit tell me how will it satisfy his die hard opponents?
realcheetah 2 years ago
Otherwise by defending Yusuf like this he is just adding fuel to fire and reassuring peoples doubts in him and further hardening his critics.
realcheetah 2 years ago
Why fuel to fire? What a stupid statement./ Are you aware of the shariah laws? Do you know what is the punishment of the accuser? If you knew you wouldnt have the audacity to say a word after this clarification. Be feaful of khuda and rusool saws.
wheeof 2 years ago
@wheeof
One of the pre requisites of Sharia Law implementation is the creation of a welfare state. You cannot implement sharia laws till your state is a welfare state. IS PAKISTAN a welfare state ?
And secondly where have I accused anyone? Please tell me?
Asking for a clarification is NOT accusing ?
I am only following Allah and Rasools saying that do not believe in a SUNI Sunai baat. It also applies to ZH. Am I to believe ZH only and not the others ?
Get ur basics right atleast.
realcheetah 2 years ago
No one told to believe zaid hamid. You dont want to. DONT. Clarification has been made. If you dont understand it, please dont waste your energy coming up with stuff...please put ur energy towards something positive...why is zaid hamid bothering u so much? :). And inshallh a welfare state would be made. U dont worry about that. God bless u!
wheeof 2 years ago
Inshallah with or without ZH Pakistan will become a welfare state. No disagreement on that.
Defending yusuf is NOT a clarification.
The question is does ZH believe in what yusuf was accused of the distorted version of Noor faiz that is the " FAIZ NOOR" was created before the world . It is fine till here but it gets complicated when people start saying that it still exists, it is still fine BUT BUT when ppl claim to be the possessor then the problem starts.
realcheetah 2 years ago
you are not understanding anything that I am saying arent you ?
I guess it was still worth a try.
May ALLAH guide and keep you in his safety.
realcheetah 2 years ago
then in one of his last speeches e mentioned about "Noor Faiz" on the people of Pakistan. It is fine till here but againg that is exactly what Yusuf said and later (according to media reports) claimed to be in possession of that noor himself. that is what scares me because that will be as per my understanding be mounting to blasphemy coz then (NA) you are under the disguise of noor faiz claiming to be a prophet (NA) .
It is a very touchy and serious matter that he must explain.
realcheetah 2 years ago
uff...its crazy...we all are noor pf allah and rusool saws...ask any mufti, scholar or even a mullah. no one is in possesion of the noor...it is there in our souls, our spirit our hearts...please get out of this confusion mode..if u cant understand, leave us...simple...why even waste ur energy on us?
wheeof 2 years ago
that is what yusuf claimed according to the media and police investigations.
Now you tell me is the clarification worth it or not ?
realcheetah 2 years ago
ask yusuf OR allah mian about whateva u r reffering to. why would u ask zaid hamid about anything that yusuf said. For god's sakes, get over it. Let allah decide who was the culprit. Zaid Hamid has told u the facts that he knew. And please read shah wali ullah or mujadid alf sani. That would help u understand some concepts and might give u some answers too. :). God bless.
wheeof 2 years ago
Is it a coincidence that his words have stark similarities to that of Yusuf ?
Yusuf also propagated Khilafat in the beginning (according to them) and later his corrupt intellect kicked in and he started talking about other stuff and when I read his die hard you tubers claiming that he helped us with seeing Holy prophet (saw) and Iqbal in dreams etc then yusufs story flashed right in my mind and I was really upset and I confronted that person but he held to his story.
realcheetah 2 years ago
Dear - read up on khilafat? What is khilafat? Are yoiu even aware of the true meaning? If NOT please refrain from confusing others. Yusuf never claimed nabuwat and even the judgement of the court says so when they accused him of khilafat and in bristish court system a mere session court judge doesnt know a single thing about waht khilafat is? If they werent afraid of the matter being reviewed by fderal shraiat court, why did they get yusuf killed in the jail?! Just think before you question.
wheeof 2 years ago
@ wheeof
why are you and ZH and co have started defending Yusuf ???
The argument is not regarding Yusuf whether he is guilty or innocent only Allah knows as far I am concerned.
Just Zaid Hamid One thing that is WHY IS YUSUF so important to him that he is putting his neck on line for his perceived legacy ???
Now whether right or wrong Yusuf was convicted and sentenced to Death Panelty by a court.
Are we to believe that he was NOT because Zaid Hamid says so ????
realcheetah 2 years ago
What he fails to understand is that people are NOT exactly worried about his previous relations with Yusuf but what bothers me and alot of others is that if he believes in what is attributed in the media about yusuf.
Is he associated with that cult or not. When according to them Yusuf instructed his followers to hide for 5 or 10 years and then restart the movement. That is what is troubling. Is he building his movement on yusufs beliefs or not. Thats what he needs to deny
realcheetah 2 years ago
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wheeof 2 years ago
and NO he isnt building the movement on yusuf's beliefs...he is building it on la illaha illalaho muhammad ur rasoolallah...do you have a probelem with the kalma too?
wheeof 2 years ago
NA not at all.
I just pray that he sticks to this and nothing else.
realcheetah 2 years ago
No he isnt associated to any cult. Just a follower of allah and rusool saws. This movement has nothing to do with yusuf sb. It is to do with allah, rusool saws and has iqbal's ideology. Thats exactly wat the 250 programs have preached. Never ever ZH preached anything other than ishq e rusool saws. Thats the only pre-requisite and the world is ours!
wheeof 2 years ago
This is what ZH should say just the way that you said it.
"This movement has nothing to do with yusuf sb"
and it will clear a lot of doubts. Can he say it like this?
realcheetah 2 years ago
very very nice arguments ,he is telling truth
senior16 2 years ago