Gundam 00 | Seravee VS Gadessa + Garazzo | Special Movie Edition

[Matanuva135]

Sm 9

[Matanuva135]

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[sky9ross]

Boring!

[BetaJ690]

did ep24 come out yet?

[tonyhui108]

絕望提子

[liger117master]

wait i remember that they used trans am and cut off his arms

[WingChroniam]

Dang this rant on Seravee sure has dragged on for quite some time... like months... half a year?

[MrAnimenerd93]

Damn y'all below me know your shit :/

[TankHunter678]

The problem with the Seravee is that enemies can hover around midrange harassing it, since at that range it has to drop its defenses in order to fire, and it can only effectively fire in a forward arc. Thus when double teamed like in the video they can focus on when he counter attacks take out a limb. Once they do that then Melee becomes easy. Since his effective melee is "grab enemy, shred them with the beam sabers on the other arms." Which by attacking the side without a limb he cannot grab.

[calvin3524]

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[Machdude]

This pretty much accounts for the fact that the Seravee is in itself largely hollow and despite its girth, it is lighter than the other CB gundams.

[lolmuffins1]

@Machdude however seravee would never ever fight without seraphim as a backpack so this point is largely moot.

[Machdude]

It can considering what the Seravee II can do. However, it would be moot if the Seraphim was holding it down. The Seraphim is on its back and it provides its own propulsion which effectively means that it compensates for its own weight while moving. It basically means, the Seravee is faster with the Seraphim attached. By your logic, it would mean that the Arios + archer would be slower simply because their combined weight is heavier.

[AnotherPanther]

@Machdude

Arios is suit which uses quantum brain waves to fullfill its potential. The problem is that after season 1 Allelujah is no longer able to use quantum brainwaves, thus he is not able to use the suits full potential. Its only at the end that he is able to do something notable, because it is then that he re awakens his quantum brainwaves skills.

>:(

[AnotherPanther]

@lolmuffins

True @ your more cost efficient sollution, but what if the mothership is under attack? Then you need more units. Furthermore, at that point, CB might not have been able to produce a unit with both heavy power and a slim design, remember they do not have acces to Veda anymore. So upgrading what they already had is more realistic.

And Seravee is not dead weight, he made some good kills. >:(

[cloudedpie]

Omfg. It is not 00 raiser for the last part of the video. Its called friends by Stephanie? Idk Idc happy listening people

[lolmuffins1]

So ends the life of Fatty Gundam Mark 2.0...

Fatty Gundam's purpose seems really unclear to me... Its large bazookas are not meant for Mobile Suit combat. Celestial Being design at its finest.

[Machdude]

"Fatty" was meant as a supplement unit that functioned as a primary mode and a particle container. The Original design for the gundams were fast but low capacity. The bulky armor was made to give it better capacity which by extension allowed it to fulfill a role as the siege unit. It is perfectly capable of taking on units one on one. But in this case, he was getting double teamed so what did you expect? Not everyone is Setsuna F. Seiei.

[lolmuffins1]

@Machdude Siege units like Obese Gundam may have been acceptable in early Season 1, when no one had the agility to dodge anything. However, when everyone is flying around with fancy GN Tau Drives, Obese Gundam quickly becomes obsolete. He even had trouble with mooks on the second episode in S2.

It is not "perfectly capable" at all. He only beat GARazzo through trickery and deceit, by resorting to using notGurrenLagann Gundam.

And I expected a better fight from Yaoibait then what I just saw.

[Machdude]

Every other gundam had trouble with those guys. It was not like Tieria was taking the brunt of the crap because he was slow. Contrarily, his suit is actually second in that its sheer bulk allowed it to draw in enemy units for the kill. The problem here is simply that he was taking on two guys in top of the line suits. Really the only guy that could take out Ace pilots in rapid succession is Setsuna and Reborns in their top line gundams.

[Machdude]

To make this clear, Lockon had no notable kills before the Revive nor Hallelujah with Hilling. For the most part, the characters that pulled their weight in combat were Both Tieria and Setsuna.

If anything, the Arios doesn't live up to its potential. Whereas the other characters at least showed their prowess, it wasn't until the final battle that the Arios made a large contribution.

[AnotherPanther]

@lolmuffins1 Technically Seravee/Virtue was made for ship combat instead of MS combat. He should be fighting stuff like memento mori instead of those super agile suits

[lolmuffins1]

@AnotherPanther Indeed he should, but Setsuna Eff Say-ay and his Double-Oh Raisah, a close-combat mobile suit, accomplishes Fatty Gundam Mk-II's main purpose better than Fatty Gundam Mk-II itself.

and Fatty Gundam Mk-II really should have been designed with mobile suit combat in mind. Copying The O's leg beam sabers was cute, now if only he would have actually used it in combat...

[AnotherPanther]

@lolmuffins1 Whose fault is it that Seravee did not get the Twin Drive? :P 00's output is just way higher that Seravee's, so don't blame 'Obese' gundam for not being able to accomplish the same.

I do not agree with you on the fact that it should be an anti MS suit as it reduces CB's options against things like Memento Mori, if they did not had 00's which could have been a posibillity as you could see at the beginning of season 2 (the Drive did not sync etc. etc.)

[lolmuffins1]

@AnotherPanther Being Heavy Weapons Guy is fine, as long as you're not dead weight in most combat situations...

If Overweight Gundam went on a diet, then he would be more useful in mobile suit fights, which compose the majority of engagements in Gundam 00...

And CB can just make something like the GN Arms Mk-II to use in the event that a superweapon like the Alvatore or Momento Mori comes up. More cost efficient and effective.

[Machdude]

And you misunderstand, the Gundams may look large, but the weight of Tieria's gundams are all similar to the others and the major drawback is only the Virtue's firing speed which was addressed in the Seravee. The Seravee is in itself far better in melee than any non-melee exclusive gundams (boasting 6 beam sabers) and the ability to rapid fire heavy shots.

If you are still complaining about its girth, don't bother, because it is largely superficial.

[WingChroniam]

@Machdude Yea you tell them kid. Besides I think everyone is seriously over thinking everything. JUST ENJOY THE ANIME AND ZIP IT!

[lolmuffins1]

@WingChroniam yeah we are over-analyzing this, but considering how dumb Gundam 00 gets by mid-end Season 2, it's more fun to try and nitpick about every possible thing =)

[lolmuffins1]

@Machdude rapid fire heavy shots are still slow; i can't remember any instances where he actually shot down someone who wasn't a mook with those things. Seravee is around 10 tons heavier than the rest of the single-drive gundams, so he's definitely slower than the others

to be fair, seravee would be extremely hax in UC Gundam, where capital ships are much more important, but in Gundam 00, capital ships are (usually) fairly inconsequential

[Machdude]

The charging period is slow, but with the ability to alternate between cannons, it effectively allows the Seravee to eliminate the issues that the Virtue had. However, have you ever seen an Ace to Ace fight? Beam sabers are pretty much the given. Considering that the Gadessa can swing around its monster of a gun like a toy, the Seravee is not exactly burdened by anything.

If anything the weight is largely moot considering that about 27 tons of that is the Seraphim Gundam.

[lolmuffins1]

@Machdude Has Tieria ever hit an ace with any of his cannons at all in Gundam 00? As far as I can remember, he beat Bring with a gimmick and Healing with Trans-am Hax, but he never once hit anyone who was actually skilled with his beam cannons. Even against mooks, he has less than stellar accuracy...

There's also a big difference between carrying a large weapon around, like Gadessa, and being burdened by weight thoughout the body, like Seravee. I don't see how Seraphim Gundam makes 27 tons moot.

[Machdude]

It means that the Seraphim is not weighing down its arms and legs. The Seravee's arms are the SAME SIZE as the Arios and its legs are largely hollow so it can effectively move them quite fast. Since the Seraphim is essentially THE propulsion system for the Seravee, it more than compensates for its own weight.

The Gadessa on the other hand has a cannon that is as large as it is and it has no propulsion of its own, so if anything, if the Gadessa can whip it around, then the Seravee can as well.

[lolmuffins1]

@Machdude what does seravee's armor being hallow have anything to do with how fast it moves? Due to how bulky the armor is, it's definitely less maneuverable and agile than most other mobile suits...

So 27 tons is centered as a backpack, thus creating a whole new slew of problems. Sure, seraphim compensates for its own weight, but adding Seravee on top of that negates that advantage.

And once again, there's a huge difference between burdened by a weapon and burdened by armor...

[Machdude]

there is not much of a difference if you factor in the propulsion and updates to the joints. The Seravee has a vernier in most of the more important parts with its arms being THE SAME SIZE as the Arios. The only question of its mobility is in its legs and as noted, they have their own verniers. Sure it isn't going to be as fast as the Arios, but it is by no means slow. And the reason why the armor is hollow? As particle containers. So its mobility is not taxing the drive at all.

[Machdude]

As a result, the only factor that is really called into question is how fast its legs move. Given that for the most part, it really isn't going to be kicking anyone, the Seravee is NOT at a disadvantage. The Extra arms in the knees even compensate for it by giving the legs a mode of attack that it essentially doesn't need. But is it slow? No, because its arms work just fine. Does it move slowly? No, because it has a lot of verniers. Is its mass a problem? No because its weight is not an issue.

[Machdude]

Also, what makes Tieria's guns ineffective against Aces is the charge time. Essentially it is a siege weapon, so obviously its weapons would be built like that. However, the beam sabers exist solely so that the Seravee can skirmish. I'm going to put this up front, in a melee fight, the cannons are largely irrelevant when the unit in question has a GN field and 6 beam sabers. It doesn't matter if his guns are inaccurate for that, he's not supposed to be using them like that anyway.

[lolmuffins1]

@Machdude In most of Gundam 00, the Titans/Earth Federation dealt with Seravee/Virture primarily by pressuring it into staying in it's GN Field, where it would be hindered and rendered largely useless. Seravee has no mid-range capabilities to speak of, since a skilled pilot would just dodge the cannons and stay way from sabers, while pressuring with a beam rifle. In practice, letting Seravee use 6 beam sabers at a time is an inelegent solution to try and mitigate it's short-range deficiencies.

[Machdude]

They did the same with the others. Everyone has the advantage when they have numerical superiority. In the same situation, the Cherudim (Nearly nonexistent close range capabilities) and the Arios (average in everything but mobility) both performed the same or worse. Considering its defensive capabilities as well, it doesn't really need to worry much about beam rifles, but in the essence, it performs better as a unit than the others on its team, dwarfed only by the 00.

[lolmuffins1]

@Machdude i coulda sworn that Cherudim used its beam pistols a lot more in S2 but then again i haven't watched Gundam 00 in a year.

Both of those gundams rely on their mobility to deal with superior numbers, while still retaining their ability to counter-attack via mid-range weaponry, while Seravee is stuck in its GN field, unable to effectively attack its assailants.

[Machdude]

The Cherudim and the Seravee are about Equal in mobility with his main perk being his beam pistols and bits. However, Cherudim's beam pistols are not sufficient considering he has no beam sabers which means that in close range, it is almost helpless. He literally has to shoot them to cause lasting damage (The axe edges on the end are only good for blocking and are not much better than outright punching the opponent).

[Machdude]

The Arios is also lacking in substantial weaponry and even worse, a noted lack of ability to take any hits at all (it doesn't even have a shield anymore). As it is, the Arios is the worse off in the second season because it is the only gundam that contributes the least in battle. Sure it could run, sure it could fight, but the damage it dealt was negligible in comparison to the Seravee.

[onigojira]

@Machdude

It's not the charge time of the guns that makes seravee be constantly useless, it's that Tieria never grew as a pilot. The only Gundam more versatile than the Seravee is the 00 and yet the Seravee gets the least amount done and constantly gets its ass kicked because Tieria is now their weakest link when he used to be their strongest. He still fights like he's using Virtue even though Seravee has been designed to overcome Virtue's faults and he has no real melee skills to speak of.

[Machdude]

That really is subjective primarily because for the most part, he is never relegated to skirmishing duty. The only pilot that is noted to have "grew" of the main 4 is Setsuna. Allelujah's performance was far worse and it was only until the end where he actually shown competence while the new Lockon's performance varied. Considering that his major loss came from getting double teamed, it isn't a situation that either of the other two can say any different.

[lolmuffins1]

@AnotherPanther come to think of it, something like the Avaaron would have been much more effective, or even the Sol-Braves mobile suits from that horrible horrible movie.

[AnotherPanther]

@lolmuffins1 Yeah by that time CB realized the same thing and switched to Raphael gundam. And how is Alvaron more effective than this gundam?

[lolmuffins1]

@AnotherPanther Has sufficient heavy-artillery capabilities, while not being a total failure in close-range combat. Yes the wings are pretty lame, but CB could just remove those and put something more useful on.

and sorry but raphael wasn't half as effective or cool as the sol braves. plus no close range weapons at all and its unusable with gravity.

[AnotherPanther]

@lolmuffins1 Dude, alvaron without wings = Raphael gundam. Give it a couple of beam sabers and bam! you have more options. Yet you should realize that, like Virtue and Seravee, it was more of an anti ship rather than an anti suit suit. And how is it unusable with gravity --> makes no sense, no reason to conclude that it would not. It is less cool, you are right on that. It is more effective however. Just the fact that its trans am is more stavle is reason enough to conculde that it is superior.

[WingChroniam]

@AnotherPanther All I have to say is that the Seravee was meant for extreme fire power and focuses less on mobility. Also I am not sure why is Alvaron is even being compared. Seravee has lots more than him. Also the Raphael Gundam was ok, think about its accessories. It only has the backpack with the canons and 1 beam rifle (no GN Field, sabers, etc)

ALSO! the movie wasnt bad, people's hate was derived from more of their personal reasons and their preferred enemies.

[AnotherPanther]

@WingChroniam I COMPLETELY agree with you Wing, comparing Alvaaron to gen 5 Seravee Gundam is a bit stupid, but this done to say that high fire power + high mob. is better than greater fire power but less mob.... Flags and Alvaaron where used by lolmuffins1 to illustrate this. Finally, all gundam have their own purpose, no need to bitch at them if they something wrong in a field they do not specialize in. Raphael had his own purpose too, but give it beam sabers and you are good to go.

[lolmuffins1]

@AnotherPanther it has huge giant cannons on its shoulders, and raphael itself is a normal-sized mobile suit; how in the world can that thing move effectively in gravity?

alvaron was pretty good from a combat standpoint, it owned setsuna before he resorted to that vile tram-spam hax.

yes, virtue and its fatty cousins were anti-ship weapons, but they were anti-ship weapons in an alternate universe that didn't really need them; normal mobile suits kill ships in one hit

[Machdude]

No, they didn't. Not top line ships. The crappy outdated carriers maybe, but not the shit that CB and A-laws were using.

And The Raphael's entire standpoint was that it was built for the 0G environment (Like the other 2 CB gundams). For Gravity combat, it had the Raphael Dominions which alters Seravee2 into an armor pack, putting it right back into Virtue style. It's major selling point? It STIll boasts obscene firepower.

[lolmuffins1]

@Machdude to be honest, Celestial Being was always playing defense against the A-Laws so we never got to see how effective CB Gundams were against crusiers.

Yes you have a point; its unfair to mark off the original Raphael Gundam for not being usable in gravity when it's whole purpose was to fight the ELS in space (in which it did a passable job).

but with Dominions, you're using an anti-ship mobile suit in an environment that's exclusively mobile-suit combat. It just seems weird, IMO

[Machdude]

And yet it still saw use against the A-laws capital ships especially with the way the other two were set up. Sure the 00 Raiser can do it, but when the 00 Raiser's main job was to break their lines, the Seravee has its niche which it could easily branch out of.

However, the Dominions is of no consequence either since it is effectively 2 Mobile suits in one with the ability to strike heavily at long range. It also eliminates the supposed "problem" you said before where it cuts back on the mass.

[lolmuffins1]

@lolmuffins1 Wait a minute... he just used 4 beam sabers in THIS CLIP...-_-

[chrisluvjh]

not fun when everyone gets to transam

[bri12345ification]

i think tieria is probably the weakest meister of the 4 because lockon was able to beat the gadessa with cherudim like 3/4 destroyed and setsuna was able to hold off the 2 of them and no offense to tieria i still think he is pretty cool for wat he did in the movie

[AnotherPanther]

@bri12345ification Dude, wth? Tiera is the second strongest meister. Apart from the movie, he is the sole reason CB still exists after season 2, if it weren't for him, they would have been raped by kamikaze Gaga's! Furthermore he had his fair share of kills, he killed at least one or two innovators. Plus, unlike Lockon or Allelujah (--> who is imo the weakest meister since he cannot utilisize quantum brainwaves anymore) his suit is meant for anti ship and not for anti suit combat.

>:(

[bri12345ification]

@AnotherPanther well if u put it that way then i suppose your right but all gundams because they will be sending mobile suits after the gundams instead of ships

[AnotherPanther]

@bri12345ification In the movie the Gundam meisters could not handle Europa and the ELS until Tiera and his suit came along --> A tank had trouble fighting normal soldiers in close range, but it by more effective when it has to fight against stuff that requires High Fire power to get destroyed. Sure at this point Seravee is at a disadvantage because all the suits, but his skills are required very much...

[Ca12HOCKO]

Waht was the seravee attachment

[WingChroniam]

@Ca12HOCKO Its the extra armaments they got before they sortied to this mission. Just like how Cherudim got those rifle bits, and Arios has those extra weapons.

[Shadewarper]

@Ca12HOCKO It's a GN Heavy Weapons Beam pack: 2 GN cannons, 2 GN field boosters and 2 GN verniers (for added speed and manoeuvrability)

[Godzilla00X]

does anyone know the name of the soundtrack playing in the background

[soldier4670]

@Godzilla00X It's called '00 Raiser' I think.

[ncs2000]

why does their trans arm only last a few seconds?

[WingChroniam]

@ncs2000 Well Seravee's Trans-Am did not last long because he was hit, and I guess that throws off the system. As for Gadessa and Garazzo they turned it off after they damaged Seravee and got the upper-hand, so it was pointless to use more GN particles up on an already damaged opponent.

[ndalum75]

@WingChroniam Especially since apparently the fake GN drives completely shut down after using up Trans-Am

[MichelobRauer]

@WingChroniam Not only that but using trans am puts a major amount of strain on the GN drive. You can only keep it going for so long before it gives out. Setsuna makes his GN drives give out multiple times in the series.

[GUNDAM00745]

still..i think its bull that tiera when down...just launch a freaking Burst mode ball at em and make a run for it lols..

nah just kidding there was no way out...i guess this was better then the normal version

[ARCHwWwWeEeE]

what the title of the song at the last part ??

[chowziyang]

song ?

[WingChroniam]

@chowziyang 00-Raiser OST

[chowziyang]

@chowziyang after 1.08 the song

[r3gie831]

sigh..couldn't tieria just waited a bit till their trans-am worn off? and stayed in defensive for a bit..I mean come on he can't expect to hit em while they're in trans am mode

[WingChroniam]

@r3gie831 Doesnt matter. Besides they only used Trans-Am for like 5 seconds, if Tieria couldnt even hold off the first attack in his Trans-Am mode, how do you expect him to even wait out the whole Trans-Am limit without him using Trans-Am himself right?

[r3gie831]

@WingChroniam yeah I knew someone would say that, it's just I didn't think the whole outcome of the fight, so I guess tieria were just unlucky to go up against two ms w/ trans am.

[Machdude]

he might have stood a chance if he had released Seraphim to dualtask but he wasn't aimed at fighting to begin with. There's also the fact that he was carrying around a bigass unit and its not really the best weapon against a high mobility mobile suit and another of his own type.

[halorulesyourface]

i always thought revive was a girl until i looked it up (and dont get me started about tieria when i first saw 00). gundam and anime in general have to stop confusing us

[xAngelicInnovator]

I swear, Tieria got pwned badly. Especially at 0:55 when Revive's Gadessa just appeared and shoot Tieria down with his mega launcher. XD!

Lol, but anyway, it wasn't a pretty fair fight, but Tieria could've kick the Innovator asses easily.

Also at 0:28 , Revive has a big ass mega launcher and he decides to punch Seravee? o.o XD! That made me lmao. :3

[Machdude]

Would you be able to even point the mega launcher at him from point blank range? That thing is longer than it is tall. He'd have to back up and raise the launcher which would force him to release his hold on the Seravee's head and end up with a broken gun. However, he should have used his beam saber or vulcan instead.

[GUNDAM00745]

fuck this scene i hate it. they totally killed the awesomeness of seravee with this. gaddessa and garrazo sux shit. Hallelujah totally rape garrazo and tore it in half

[defrockDFplus]

But it was still too fast. Half the time Tieria was assing around with two knee-hands doing nothing >3<

The only phail battle he had

[nigelmusprime]

this is epic!!!!!!!!!!

[trajano777]

ive been wondering... since they use those fake GN drives shouldnt their transn am suck the juice out of them like really fast?

[0kitkat0179]

@trajano777 well in actualyity once trans am runs out on a fake gn drive there supposed to break as shown by ribbons when he was escapin with the true gn drive from 00, it was more damaged by the trans am than setsuna.

[WingChroniam]

@0kitkat0179 uh dude no it doesnt break after Trans-Am is used. Did you not see how Setsuna sliced through the Reborns gundam? Ribbons was referring to how his suit was in horrible condition and that it wouldnt last any longer, not the GN Drives.

[0kitkat0179]

@WingChroniam i said there supposed to break, usualy due to them running out of particles or using trans am for too long resulting in overload. its never stated that they fixed the drives to be able to keep working after a full trans am time period but it is shown it can be used multiple times by the innovades.

[whiteladyyan]

@0kitkat0179 actually when Trans-Am runs out from a GN Drive Tau the effects would either be all it's stored GN Particles would be all used up [the reason why the Gaga was designed for Kamikaze Attacks] or only a few amounts would be left for the purpose of retreating [reason why the Masurao retreats after it's Trans-Am has ended in the fight against 00-Raiser]

[0kitkat0179]

@whiteladyyan that may be the case but for masurao theres info that the gn drives would break after use of trnas am and was dependent on usin gn condensors, then after that battle it seems the breaking problem was fixed. its just info i read before while lookin up units and figured id mention it

[whiteladyyan]

@0kitkat0179 I see didn't knew that since the only GN Drive that I saw w/c explode was 00's Twin Drives w/o the 0 Raiser.......oh and where did you read it?......I guess I wanna read it as well........

[0kitkat0179]

@whiteladyyan gundam wikia under the trans am system article.

[NinjaXSnake]

This fight sucked major dick tiera should of came back and fought the both of them in the serphain and whoop their asses then this fight would of been sweet.

[WingChroniam]

@NinjaXSnake Yeah I know, but I already stated to someone else that he DID NOT want to fight with the Serpahim and risk it being damaged because he was saving the seraphim for the "Trial Field" system in the end.

[omegax05]

@NinjaXSnake

[YoOhItsPha]

fuck wing mobile suit. their cant keep up with the gn drive.

[commandermetal]

see its funny because no matter how you slice it both wing and 00 had rape suits.

Live with it.

[LockonDylandy]

Only proves that Meisters are worthless without Trans-Am.

[WingChroniam]

@LockonDylandy What do you mean. Seravee was up against 2 Innovators and they used their Trans-Am. Tieria could've used Seraphim to help, but he didnt want to risk getting Seraphim damaged so he could use "TRIAL FIELD".

[LockonDylandy]

@WingChroniam

Like I said, The Meisters are worthless without Trans-Am, Remember Bring he totally beat Setsuna and Setsuna can only do is whine for unable to use Trans-Am.

[WingChroniam]

@LockonDylandy which part are you talking about. I think your exaggerating too much on how the Meisters suck.

[omegax05]

@LockonDylandy and Innovades and worthless without Veda. I think you forgot how easily healing was owned and how lockon R2 murdered revive? neither fights had trans am. I think you should change your thinking because in the end battle who came out? please do remind me.

[WingChroniam]

@omegax05 Agreed. And seriously, we should just enjoy the battles... and stop complaining about who or what is worthless "IF" this happens or "IF" blah blah blah. You keep talking about an "IF" scenerio, truth is CB won, Innovator lost. And in the Movie its going to be even more intense. And you also mentioned how useless they would be "IF" they didnt have trans-am, SO WHAT! It is a tool, they use whatever tools they use. If that is the case why dont you complain about funnels...

[omegax05]

@WingChroniam no problem man, I'm getting tired of people saying that " what if" bullshit as well. In war, it doesn't matter what advantages you have, you do what you must to win, plain and simple. It's not sets fault that he has a true twin drive with quantization, thats just how it goes. If I had a GN Tau and you had a real drive and I lost to trans am I wouldnt complain because you have that ability I dont.

[WingChroniam]

@omegax05 EXACTLY!!! you get thumbs up ^_^ for realizing that in reality, nothing is fair, but all is fair when it comes to war. You have to be ready for the unexpected and prepare the unexpected for the enemy. You cant just go up to a gundam and say "HEY!, you have Trans-Am! I dont have it so could you NOT use it and fight fair?"

HAHA! In WAR you would look like a dumbass asking for a handicap.

[WingChroniam]

@omegax05 btw im arguing towards LockonDylandy , not you Omegax05

[LockonDylandy]

@omegax05

Healing is up against Hal who is a SUPER SOLDIER CALIBER, one of CB's ACE! So it's understandable Healing lost to him. She is not Ribbons level you know. And as far as I remember Lockon is almost dying with his broken down suit if weren't for 1 sec Trans-Am again Lockon would be joining his brother on heavens right now.

So again, they are worthless without Trans-Am.

[omegax05]

So then technically, your statement should be, lyle is useless without trans am, but that would go against your own youtube name because I'm asusuming your going with both twins since they have the same code name. If you want to say who is really useless without trans am, you should be quoting all the suits WHO DONT HAVE IT. As soon as they got trans am, they were on the same level as the gundams. I suggest your rephrase your statement cause all suits are useless without trans am.

[LockonDylandy]

@omegax05 My name doesn't have anything to do with this argument. Like I said THEY are worthless without Trans-Am, the Meister is not on par with the GW Boys level, if you want me to compare them. (Excluding Quatre)

[WingChroniam]

@LockonDylandy You;ve got to be kidding me right? Because I could easily say that maybe Heero is useless without the ZERO system. SO WHAT NOW!!!

[LockonDylandy]

@WingChroniam

Boy last time I check, Heero is raising hell in a grunt, fighting a Gundam with an inferior suit and beating a close combat type of enemy using a range suit that he never bother using it's range weaponry.

And also one of the GW boys fight MDs with their eyes close! can Meisters do the same? They don't need frickin Gundams just to complete their MISSION unlike Meisters who solely rely on overpowered MS.

[omegax05]

@LockonDylandy Over powered? You mean fighting with tech that the enemy doesn't have right? It was all fun and game till the enemy got GN drives and that leveled the playing field, then the enemy got trans am and that leveled it even more. In GW, the only most powerful suit was the gundam's and in my recall, the enemy only had 2, epyon and Tallgeese (closest to a gundam) In 00 the only thing that seperated gundam from all suits was a GN drive, and EVERBODY got ahold of those, so what now?

[LockonDylandy]

@omegax05

You mean FAKE GN drives! Thats the same thing also apply on wing, Enemies manufacture Gundanium Alloy on the middle of the series to go on far with the GW Boys but did they ever need some sort of hidden system to counter that? As far as I remember NONE. They only need skill to go on par with the Virgos (which only MP suits that can go toe on toe with the Gundams) and their annoying planetary defensor, they never need something like Trans-Am or Zero System.

[omegax05]

@LockonDylandy Thats cause you idiot, virgo's were mobile dolls, soldiers without souls. That was they're handicap since they could assess, and destroy a target in meer milliseconds. And if you know anything about GW, Virgo II was upgraded witha network system so that a PILOT UNDER THE ZERO SYSTEM COULD relay battle orders. So yes in time they had a variation of the zero system. You say how he didnt need zero to beat zechs? but he needed it to destroy the remains of libra battleship eh?

[omegax05]

@LockonDylandy lol now your trying to par up difference series now eh? I'll admit in some aspects Heero is better then Setsuna base purly on the fact that Heero is true soldier, But Heero is not complete without his zero system, Trowa HAS NO BEAM WEAPONRY! Wufei lacks sympathy and team work, Duo, seem to be the only one who I figure that is the most well rounded in GW and quattro is not the best, but he has TONZ OF HEART. Every gundam pilot has its short coming man, get over the trans am.

[LockonDylandy]

@omegax05

Heero doesn't need a zero system to beat Zechs, quite frankly he didn't bother using the system on his duel with Zechs and Wufei. Oh on the series Trowa is using Beam Gatlings FYI!

[WingChroniam]

@LockonDylandy What the hell.. ok.. 2 things or maybe 1...

When you have a ZERO System and master it, it looks as if you arent using it. So the whole time he pilots the the WIng Zero/WIng Zero Custom he has and always had been using the ZERO System. Its just that when you master it, it means you dont go berserk and lose control. When mastering it it means you can use its benefits without attacking allies at least. Honestly I thought that was obvious.

[omegax05]

@LockonDylandy Your a fool, Heero mastered the zero system so it don't know if it was really on or off. I'll give you this that in the series, Heavy arms had ONE beam Gatling, In official redesign, he had a belt fed gatling, and in the movie he had a dual round weapons. Man if your going to have on trans am, you might as well hate on newtypes, satellite beam cannon, moonlight butterfly, seed effect, and what else gives gundam pilots they're powers.

[Itsnameisgundam]

DUUUUU!!!

do they sell these movie in teh states? if so I need it!! because I don't realy want to buy the whole season.. but a compilation. how much movies are there?

[WingChroniam]

@Itsnameisgundam Your better off buying the seasons, not these OVA versions. They are horrible.. and you dont get the same exciting feeling of secrets.

[lightningGundam]

Do you have the scene where exia repair 1 fights the ahead?

[WingChroniam]

@lightningGundam I do. But they wont let me post the video. Im trying to think of a way to put it up.

[kent6755]

0:30 ゴッドフィンガア！！！！！！！！！

[suckdball]

seravee got owned.

[dexchu100]

i wish seraphim had a chance to fight the innovators it would have been interesting

[hericbss]

What Revive says at 0:57? And someone can upload a video of 00 VS Susanowo or Masurao?

[Kaiziu]

lolwot trans-am only lasted liek 2 seconds

[WingChroniam]

@Kaiziu its a strategical way of using trans-am. using it only during small gaps or opening while fighting. Just like what Lockon did with the 1 second Trans-am to defeat an Innovator.

Its pointless to continue using Trans-Am when you already got your enemy in the ropes.

[Kaiziu]

@WingChroniam what about seravee then? he got hit once and his trans-am got disengaged, that didn't happen before, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have his enemies "in his ropes" :p

[WingChroniam]

@Kaiziu That actually has happened a few times while using Trans-am and getting disengaged when hit. For example when Nadleeh got hit by Alvatore, Reborns got hit by 00 Raiser, when Dynames w/GN Arms got hit by Ali Al sarches, when Susanowo was stabbed in both shoulders, etc.

[Kaiziu]

@WingChroniam o rly? nice observations haha, I can't really remember, been a couple of years

[WingChroniam]

@Kaiziu its okay. I have very VIVID memories of every episode of my favorite gundam series =]

[Matanumi]

0:37 Revive briefly looks like Anew.

[Matanumi]

anymore on these?

[Brolly5]

100 times better than the rape fest from the series. At least Seravee went down fighting to the end,.

[WingChroniam]

@Brolly5 Indeed

[WingChroniam]

Its the Gundam 00 Special Edition Movie 3.

[RakManX8]

what episode is this?

[RakManX8]

what episode is this?

[Matanumi]

0:37 Revive kinda looks like Anew.

damn I miss the first batch Innvoators.. I'm sure the newer ones will be lame.

[TWSFreedom2306]

If there's Virtue Gundam and Nadleeh there, I'm sure the fatties able to finish up them. LoL! Love it when Gadessa blast Seravee.

[tolentolen]

where do you get the blu-ray clips?

[WingChroniam]

I download them through torrents.

[whoever560]

how did this not make it to the show

[WingChroniam]

probably cuz they they only got the idea during the making of the special OVA edition of 00... they couldve easily squeezed this in, since its only like a minute.

[BTDZero]

@whoever560

Time constrains for production I'm guessing. While those SE movies do have some nice new scenes, they are doubtlessly inferior to the TV series because of really terrible editing, too much being cut and some very wierd music swaps. Seriously, playing all the J-music during certain scenes ruins the mood (Exia R2 VS 0). The movies could have been better had they been longer. All movies are 100 minutes each, 20 minutes more per movie would have worked wonders for the plot coherence.

[Chibithy]

EPIC! I wonder if Bandai will sent it to America... if they do they'll probably do something cheap like make it Blu-Ray Amazon exclusive.

[ZGMFXGN0042]

this one better and more brutal fight

[oyametalicus]

this one's better...

[lyue1996]

Awesome.

[Prime92]

Now that's more like it. I always thought that battle ended way to fast and that Seravee could have put up a better fight.

[YuriBo26]

@Prime92 Hi prime o/, one of your fans here o/, already watched the Unicorn OVA? I think it's great ^^. Greetings from Brazil :D

[WingChroniam]

@YuriBo26

I know! i wonder which episode is when the Unicorn banshee appears. Im betting 100% that Albert is the guy whole stole the data on the Unicorn before it got deleted, that bastard. But yay for him for allowing Bansee to be born because he is awesome, but then The complete Unicorn model is cool too, since the current one is a prototype.

[YuriBo26]

@WingChroniam Damn, I already watched the 1st episode on the tv ( I put the episode on a usb memory stick and put onto the PS3 ) more than 5 times, I think the characters are great, and about the battles... need I say something?

[WingChroniam]

@YuriBo26 the battles was awesome. It was understandable that there wasnt 40 minutes of straight forward fighting since they have to build up the story a little first.

[Willigs101]

I'm pretty sure Tieria would have been able to handle them if he would've been able to use Seraphim.

[WingChroniam]

would've? He could have if he wanted to, but he didnt. He didnt want to risk getting Seraphim damaged because it had the Trial-System that they planned on using once after capturing VEDA.

[ChibiFate]

@WingChroniam yes, WingChroniam is right, Tieria's real goal was to get to veda, take it back, then activate seraphims trial field, meaning y risk damaging Seraphim, that would only mess up Tieria's but he put up a good fight with using purely Seravee

[NinjaXSnake]

o snap this is what im fucking talking about

[sp1eedy]

badass fight scene