Springfield 1903 Match, Camp Perry, 2008

[yzerman1997]

Looking to get into this. Is there a "Rifle Matches for Dummies" book or website. I'd like to start collecting the necessary equipment and gadgets so I'm ready before I register for one. Thanks.

[Blackfork6]

@yzerman1997 The Army Marksmanship Unit put out a little book that the CMP sells. Service Rifle Book on the Civilian Marksmanship Program website.

[AmericaStandsStrong1]

Hey man, tomorrow I am shooting my first match. I will be using a 1903 Springfield. Any tips you can give me that will help with the 1903?

[Blackfork6]

@AmericaStandsStrong1 Use your WORST stripper clip first. Cheekbone smashed to the back of thumb joint. Concentrate on the front sight and trigger.

[AmericaStandsStrong1]

@Blackfork6 Thanks, that does help to an extent. I have extensive shooting experience already. I just didn't know if there was any mechanical way that may be better to operate it or anything like that.

[cmphighpower]

funny as hell when you can here someone hit the flag pole during offhand.It is even louder in the pits. The flagpole is all rusted from being hit hundreds of times,

[kkbud555]

Different watching this video now. Just happening to listening to Moody Blues, Autunm Forever, chourus, "and your not here". 

Rest in Peace Rick.

[idgewe]

i have seen a couple of the 03a3s for sale but with 2 groove bores they seem to be cheaper on average , is the 2groove bore alot less accurate than the more standard 4groove barrel ?

[craigalan100]

@idgewe ...yes it is less accurate....still a great gun though

[Blackfork6]

@idgewe I hear they may be worse or better. Mostly depends on the condition. As a rule they don't seem to be any better.

[Mr2wings]

@idgewe  yes....

[oOCrossroadsOo]

I don't know anything about such competitions, but why is wearing a glove needed ? I guess it's because your hand might get wet but... ?

[GutpileCharlie]

@oOCrossroadsOo The glove on your left hand is to protect it from the pressure on the sling. When you "sling up like this" it is rock solid and there is a lot of pressure across the back of your hand.

Properly slung up, proper body position and alignment with the target almost creates a bench rest type of stability.

The prone in these matches is a piece of cake compared to standing.

Yes, the wind and weather at Camp Perry can be a game changer.

[dizzypilots1]

that damn wind sounds like a bitch.

[iiBALISTICii]

how much do the springfields go 4......and which ones are the best....a1 or a3...and which one is more expensive

[USMarineRifleman0311]

I take it the blinders are allowed on these service rifle matches?

[zagstrukk]

Why do you need the gloves on the supporting hand?

[USMarineRifleman0311]

@zagstrukk

its to cushion the rifle a little but more importantly its to immobilize all the muscles in that left hand.

Psychologically you should forget you even have fingers on that hand, that in turn makes you steadier.

This is crucial in the standing, where most of the rifle should rest on the left palm, if you use muscles in that hand you're bound to increase your sway.

[almostsk8er12345]

@zagstrukk you dont need it but its steadier than your bare hand

[TheDietzable]

i thought this was a Springfield match? The guy standing behind you is shooting a Lee Enfield

[RADDxSTEEZY]

How come some of the springfields dont have the flip up rear sight?

[Sturmmann]

@RADDxSTEEZY

shooter's preferrance

both of these 1903s are the early model. Its the 1903A3 that has the more modern rear sight.

[Sturmmann]

@RADDxSTEEZY

my mistake, the left 1903 is an A3 model.

as you can see from the Enfield on the right side....apparently they didnt care much for rifle uniformity

[Sturmmann]

on this course, is a 9 in the black or is it outside the black in the first white ring?

[JNT20]

am i seeing things?, or is the guy to the right shooting a No.4 Mk1 Enfield?..

[Jrhoney]

@JNT20 That or a No4 MkII Enfield with blonde furniture.

[alex124485]

@Jrhoney thats what it look like. wonder what its doing there unless this is the one where any milsurp can shoot not the Springfield match

[idgewe]

which of the springfields is the more accurate and easy to shoot the 03 or the 03 A3?

[maxjr4]

stupid question. was this a CMP event or just a personal event?

[Blackfork6]

@maxjr4 At the National Matches, the Springfield Rifle Match. 100s of people firing the match.

[HandzarMitraljezac]

aw I can sense the tension

[brutedude1]

i love the m1903 sights! the peep sight is very reliable and true, with great acquisition of targets! because of the peep sight i'd chose it over the Mauser, and even the Lee Enfield. you just gotta love the ol' american rifles!

[myakkaa]

Its tough to get a positive cheek weld on the straight stock '03.

[gregstiles21]

Where can i buy a real 1903 stripper clip Springfield rifle??? and how much are they???

[Blackfork6]

Any .30 cal stripper will work. Champions Choice a good place. You can use the ones old ammo comes on, but sometimes you have to sort through a bunch to get one you can clean and oil up to make work well. Prying the lips back with case also can help.

[TheAmazingdano]

@gregstiles21 you can try the cmp for a rifle, but first you have to shoot a cmp match to qualify.go to your local gun club and ask about cmp matches and gun rentals(if you dont have a iron sighted un altered militery rifle of course!)shoot the match, you dont have to win hust demonstrate safe handling of the firearm and at the end they will give you a cirtificate!

[xredfogx]

you could only use stripper clips if you dont have a scope on it. otherwise load it 1 at a time

[556slinger40cal]

what were they doing when they were calling out the serial numbers?

[bf3pwner]

camp perry shoots at 200 yards right?

[Blackfork6]

Numrich is a good place to get parts. Springfield Armory as well or Brownells.

[himrchp]

i just got a springfld 1903 serial over 1 mil. and its got no clip, i've been looking all over the web for 1903 parts, and cant find any. can u lead me to where i can buy the clips for this weapon?

[bf3pwner]

stripper clips or mag clips?It doesnt take stripper clips

[disturbedone5009]

it has an internal magazine that is fed by stripper clips.

[BrassMonkey478]

it does i have 1 w/ 2 stripper clips they work fine

[aerodynamicband]

the 1903 takes a five round stripper clip

[ViperQc]

played too much far cry 2?

[BrassMonkey478]

you can try cheaper than dirt, dont look for just 1903 look for 5 shot 30-06 stripper

[himrchp]

=D i got and works

[Vrael473]

Im absolutely inexperienced when it comes to target shooting, but it looks like your holding those weapons all kinds of wierd.

[aerodynamicband]

to guys like you and me those stances are wierd but supposedley its more stable but when your hunting complex stances like that just don't work too well

[IVSpod]

duh.

[Blackfork6]

Hardly anything. 200 yards.

[BEFinAR]

Lets see you get out and shoot it then.

[BrassMonkey478]

like to see you jit black all 5 rounds

[lobzdik]

whats the range?

[doristhepig]

Legged out as in ran away ,LOL .

[doristhepig]

Keep up the videos ,i appreciate them.

[Blackfork6]

Thanks. I've got the Camp Swift EIC match where the first Aussie Legged out in the editor, just need to finish it!

[doristhepig]

i tried your way of holding the rifle with the non shooting fully forward hand this morning at a christmas shoot ,very accurate and slightly painful,but it works , 300 mts on a 300 mt fullbore target with a no4 303 lee enfield ,i will definately use it again ,cheers .

[GordonALWAYS]

yeah, it hurts the biceps, doesn't it?

[doristhepig]

Good fun !.

[traningday]

thanks for the video, like it very much.

[ericpolo]

Thanks for the video, love watching these. I shot this match and the Garand Match on Viale. (It's kind of nice being only 30 min from Camp Perry)

[kreeper88]

yeahI'd say thats lucky ...I'd love to go to one of these matches.

[Blackfork6]

Helps with insulation from recoil and makes the sling pressure less painful across the hand. In standing, with an AR many folks end up with their fingertips near the case ejection port. Helps with the heat there as well.

[88pie88]

how much was the gun

[pumpcrack]

Why the big gloves?