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  • weiß jemand ob der typ mal nach deutschland kommt ?

    finde deise sachen nur hamma

  • @chiller1304

    jo es gibt einige vereine die das unterrichten

  • wtf.. is he serious?

  • @mayzboy Well, they say systema is being used by the spetznatz (hope I spelled that right) and that Vladmiri Vasiliev is one of the best in that system. But I really don't know.

  • I was training with Vladimir Vasiliev last night 4/5/2011

  • Vasiliev is fake. Try Kadochnikov - his sistema is like a Soviet AK-47. Cheers!

  • @Yuri20022002 you are Fake!

  • Goood!!!!!

  • But really guys for everyone who does not like systema and wastes their time telling us we are wasting our time when we know what we like

    I say to them simply fight a real credifield systema teacher and find out what actually happens

    Nuff said!

  • Is there any normal Fight on Video with him, or only these harmless unnormal kind of attackers? It seems very seldom usefull???

    It would be enough, to laugh at these way of attacks, no need, to even hit them.

    I have to fight against hooligans. Would he land any hit against them? They hit and attack in a normal way. I love Atemie, ThaiBoxing and Jui Jitsu

  • Systema works; people just need to give it a chance. The problem is that the marrtial arts world is dominated by MMA where it is all gross motor movement and muscling through the fight. If they gave Systema a try they would find something that is on another level; it is a step up and actually makes sense. I have used Systema in real life situations and I can see why it is used by Spetsnaz; it allows you to do exactly what you want with ur opponent with the least amount of effort possible

  • systema rules

  • great stuff!!!

  • Systema is bullshit, if you ask me

  • what is it??

  • Wow, YouTube seems to censor expletive words now, how lame.

    I wrote Systema is boolsheet, if you ask me, hehe...

    Because I've never seen real sparring against resisting opponents etc.

    Only gullible people who let themselves fall to the ground when fatty Riabko barely touches them etc.

  • Yep, everything in youtube is BS, because most of it are staged, rehearsed, slow, etc, etc, u can say anything u like, its BS & thousands of people are studying it. Systema is BS, MMA is BS, BJJ is BS, TKD is BS, Kungfu is BS, Boxing is BS, so what are u doing here?

  • No, you have to differentiate: there are better and worse marital arts, and there is fake bogus bullcrap nonsense, which I am convinced Systema is part of.

    You can't compare Systema to Muay Thai, can you?

    What you do is you think any "martial art" is exactly the same, which makes no sense.

    "MMA is BS"? Oh dude, c'mon.

    I invite you to be critical.

    Apart form that... what are you doing here?

  • what is it with u mma ppl dissin every other martial art. im not sure wether u've been in a real altercation and experienced adrenal response but mma does not teach survival skills. there is a reason why for centuries russia was constantly invaded from all sides yet never conquered. martial arts were developed during wartime specifically designed for the battlefield. the only good mma ive seen is called "soko combat system.

  • "what is it with u mma ppl dissin every other martial art."

    don't ask me :p

  • I don't diss everything at all. But just look at what fat man Riabko does. It is ridiculous. Systema was invented by him and Vasiliev. The Speznaz uses Sambo and Samoz, which are to really old Russian martial arts.

    Dont let them fool you.

    Do some sparring against a moving, resistant opponent. Then you'll have to revise what's real or not.

    I am convinced Systema is a scam, sadly.

  • The Speznas does use Sambo and Samoz but also uses Systema. This isn't an opinion...it is fact. Ryabko is still a COLONEL in the Speznaz and advisor to the minister of Justice. He still currently trains hostage rescue/counter terrorist units. Yes, he is large, yes he doesn't move too much...nor does he have to. Spare condescending remarks of an instructor you have never met and a combat style you haven't acquired the balls to try.

  • Colonel or not, This fat man Ryabko looks ridiculous. Take it easy - just my 2 cents, according to my experiences and the things I heard and know from real fighters. You don't have to feel offended and begin to tell me what I had the balls to acquire or not. Systema is widely know as being non-sense, therefore scam. But some people buy anything. They believe in demons and stuff. I know it's hard, but ALWAYS be critical about the martial art you do.

  • Hey SimulacronX, I agree with you. You should always be critical of martial arts that you do. I am extremely critical. I have yet to meet anyone who has faced Ryabko or Vasiliev and said it is nonsense. Many people who say it is nonsense have only seen videos on youtube and what not. Systema is no scam. I invite any and all who feel that way to meet vladamir or Ryabko and prove this. Your mind and abilities are not trained to understand what they are doing.

  • In the end, martial arts is about ability. The ability to prove or disprove by watching something is groundless/pointless. You have to get some balls and try it. Systema is a REAL fighting system with REAL theory on movement. Many special forces including the SAS are beginning to adapt this kind of training. National Geographic showed systema theory being incorporated into USMC spec. ops as well. So spare me with your groundless speculations on something you've never done/experienced

  • Well, u can have any opinion as you want. As for my part, I don't learn martial for "ass-kicking" sake, it's the opposite, anw, Systema is a battle-tested system. I pay respect to every martial art, even the lamest 1. I respect MMA for their efficiency in ring fights, I respect Systema for their pluses in building good reflexes & easy movements, every martial art hav their own specialty, but yes, to me they're all the same: It actually trains your BRAIN, not just muscles.

  • Just a small remark. Systema was invented by Riabko and Vasiliev. It only means "system". The Speznaz uses Sambo and Samoz.

    If you are interested in fighting, just do sparring against a resisting opponent, then you wake up soon. I also had to revise my opinion about Wing Chun, because there are also some weaknesses (constructed, complicated moves, not working in reality).

    I've never seen one single video about Systema that would make a lot of sense.

  • i agree with simulacronX that in the vieos riabko moves look fake and staged but in personal experience this man is no joke, his level of expertise is just beyond anyone elses, This man has this strange energy like a magnet where everyone bounces off. Like from the dragonball cartoons, only few people in the world could do some of the things he can. But in reality sytema works, i was the biggest skeptic, with 20 year background in wrestling, sambo, judo, jujitsu.

  • (LOL)

  • Uh, Systema was not invented by Vasiliev or Ryabko. There are many other branches of it. Look at Kadochnikov, Starov, Fedin, etc. You have no effing clue what your talking about SimulacronX......nor have you tried it. All you are is weak keyboard warrior.

  • Maybay you have no effing clue what you're talking about.

    I'm talking about the Ryabko/Vasiliev type of bullshit scam Systema, not the Kaochnikov system.

    If you have eyes and a brain, I advise you to be critical about your art (if you do it).

  • I am critical of the art. I took one step further than you did. I made the effort met Vladamir, asked him questions, felt his techniques and got physical proof that it's real. You' re still sitting behind your cozy keyboard flinging shit at something you know nothing about. Congrats, you win

  • Thanks and thanks for paying attention :-)

  • SimulacronX pls tell me how you can be critical for something u didn't try ??

    watch Systema Headquarters u will find v vasilev acc (systema in unique style and its have approach to fight )

    Systema is not like UFC in

    UFC you know that you have only 1 attacker

    in systema you will shout down attacker with most less energy and time what u have because u don't know how many attackers u have on street

    watch that videos

    they are only 1% of SYSTEMA

    and btw Vasiliev is KGB agent he is born to kill

  • at least think again about systema i train it for half year now

    and i like it and it save my life 2 times for only half years of training

  • Look, just enjoy your art, I won't stir up an argument again. I don't really believe in those stories, but what the hell, if you say it helps you.

    If this is all 1% Systema, where's and what is all the rest about?

  • i am sure that rest of systema is not on youtube :)

    i was sceptic like u

    then i go see what bs is this

    then i try it and i like it now i train it

    sorry for bad eng...

  • Alright.But you know, I had a DVD once, "Systems: strikes", and I had to throw it away,because it seemed absurd.I don't know, some people say Systema is an adoption of Sambo really (which is really used,amongst other things, in the Russian army).

    If you think what you do is effective (because I like to learn how to fight,not into "energy" and esoterical stuff,but I don't know about you), then just do it.

  • dvds are for those who train systema

    because they will understand for those who are like u to see dvd is stupid with out explanation

    and ok i respect your opinion but if you don't like my art then pls don't write shit about my art on internet

    as opposed i see systema in real fights you didn't and i know about i talking u don't

  • It is not your Internet, and not even your video, and I'm gonna write what I like.

    Just be critical about your art...

  • how can u be critical about something what u din't try

    i don't wont to fight you here

    i just don't understand how can you be critical (that is like 10 year old boy saying sex is stupid)

    saying lie to others its not only me and you what read here many people dos

  • The main purpose I write comments on Systema is exactly because I'm against lies.

    Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.

    I am not 10 years old, and the subject is not sex.

    I don't care about the people here. Everyone is allowed to comment.

    To be honest, I have lots of arguments and strange facts about fatty Ryabko and Vasiliev.

    If you are sure about what you do, just relax, don't pay attention to what I say.

  • can you tell me some of arguments and strange facts about fatty ryabko and vasiliev

    just few

  • Can I PM you, write to you directly (too long to do it here)? Are you ready for some critical stuff?

    It is in fact a review I once wrote about the DVD I had.

  • @SimulacronX : systema is NOT taught amongst Russian Army personnel. It is taught in the GRU, Spetznas units. Just because someone was in the Spetz doesn't mean they learned it either. Spetz operators are taught Sambo, Ropugny boi, and some are taught systema.

  • @SimulacronX : Also, Systema DVDs are worthless to anyone who has NEVER physically tried it. You won't learn anything, you won't understand what is going on by watching a DVD. You have to FEEL what is happening to you to make sense of any of this. Martial comprehension will be far more valuable with physical altercation. Your opinion has no merit or research behind it.

  • @talkfan Oh really. "Your opinion has no merit or research behind it.". So I can dismiss yours too I guess. Have fun wasting time.

  • @SimulacronX : Um you can't really dismiss my opinion because I have physically tried it so mine has more merit and research behind yours which has been formed by watching a dvd you don't understand followed by youtube videos you don't understand followed by posts on youtube that are groundless......I train, you only type....who is wasting time here?

  • @talkfan Everyone has their experience and view of things; I told mine, and it is founded. Sorry to bother you. I am 100% convinced Systema is a scam. I've been doing enough Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Wing Chun and Krav Maga in my life to base an opinion on the subject. Systema by Vasiliev/Riabko is one of the most ridiculous phenomenon in martial arts world to me. I wrote reviews about the subject, I wrote an extensive review about a dvd, which is absolute non-sense bullshit, sorry.

  • @SimulacronX : Its NOT founded. jiujitsu, wing chun,krav maga is fantastic however, they dont give u a base to examine systema. It doesnt run on the same operating system as other arts. Can u honestly say that you understand systema because u have done kravmaga? Reviewing something u haven't physically experienced is meaningless. I'd respect ur opinion more if u tried it and decided it sucked. Real B.S is sitting on the bench judging instead of trying. Make an effort beyond watching a screen.

  • @talkfan I'm in a hurry now, but I will send you my extensive review on a dvd called "Systema: strikes" by Riabko. Maybe you will find a few clarifying things in my statements. What I dislike mostly about the dvd: lots of esoteric stuff involved.

  • @SimulacronX

    cool do you other art and watch those other video and avoid watching systema videos.THose of us that enjoy systema could care less what you think

  • @NewZealfighter I watch what I want, and there are people who enjoy being in bogus martial arts classes. Truth hurts.

  • @SimulacronX One last bit puppy puppy you clearly don't understand true combat because everyone that knows how real fights go down is able to understand the effectiveness of the system

    Yeah, the truth does hurt

    I imagine your ego can't handle that fact that you truly don't know how to defend yourself from at least most kinds of attackers

    If you did , you would not try so hard to be discrediting the system.You would actually be trying to learn it

  • @SimulacronX

    Ok one last thing little little angry puppy

    Just go and try to take on a systema teacher

    then you can tell us just how the truth actually hurts

    you can talk all you want puppy but talk is cheap keyboard/armchair warrior

    Just go take on a systema teacher then get back to us...ok puppy

  • @NewZealfighter Truth hurts, I know. Still, it's crap, sorry man.

  • @SimulacronX

    Truth is I am happy you will never be a believer of systema

    Systema needs to always be an underground science

    Sure , it is crap but you will never actually take on a systema teacher.

    Talk is cheap

  • @NewZealfighter It is no underground "science" anymore. You don't know about the rest, and I know what I'm talking about.

  • @SimulacronX

    Cool, then go take on a Certifield Systema Teacher and shame him on video for the whole world to see

    We are are waiting to see you educate us

    talk is cheap.just go challenge a systema teacher.

  • @NewZealfighter Good idea! I'll think about that. I will send you a review I wrote about a Systema DVD called "Systema: Strikes". This dvd made me angry... I had to throw it away. Anyway, if it makes you happy, do what you want to do, but there are a lot of bogus teachers and methods out there. I got Judo, Jiu-Kitsu and Wing Chun experience, I am interested in the matter, and like many others, checking out Systema made me cringe, as I am not into esoterics. I want to be able to fight, that's all

  • @SimulacronX

    your a curious one.You have the symbol of st george on your icon and your sight seems to be full with estorics stuff.

    In is interesting you have looked in the system in such great detail for someone that does not like the system.If seems it would be a great way of your energy.I have the impression you often waste a lot of your energy despite your high intellect.

    about the strikes video.I too was not very impressed.However, I have felt the systema strikes for real....

  • @SimulacronX

    ......yes the systema strike cut thou your body like a speed boat cutting thou water.They will shake your organs.Martin Wheeler says it best when he describe deep level touching.The strikes are a form of touching into the body.Also the arm must be limp as dead wieght will be affected by gravity easier then a tense arm.

    As for Vald thinking he is a wolf.That is just his totem animal.The native Americans have the same concept.Your totem animal is a medaphor and spirt teacher

  • @SimulacronX

    Is it so hard to imagine a wolf as vald's spirt guide considering the fact he is generious,brave,a leader and is loyal.The wolfs are very social loyal animals

    we can have more then one spirt guides or mediphores for our learning

    Me, my spirt guides is one the Bear and the wee little brave Sparrow.

    But on a differnt note I will read your lengthy review and will reflect on it.

    But we need to remember highly educate journalist often get in their own way and......

  • @SimulacronX

    ......and omit important truthful fact or are so bend on discrediting and spinning the story they they actually just get in their own way.

    Valdimir says we often get in our own way when learning.

    But anyway, let us bring the conversation to for circle

    just film yourself taking on and shaming an actually credifield systema teacher and many of us systema explorers and students will go "hmm, maybe we were wrong all this time"

    But really I dought that now

  • @NewZealfighter

    Puppy, if you are into other martial art then go watch that.Why little puppy you waste your time watching stuff you are unable to understand.Also why you waste time trying to discredit it.

    you think you time be better spent watching what you actually enjoy

    personally , I am glad not everyone understands the power of the system.I personally don't want it to be main stream.It is too effective for that average jackass to have knowledge of

  • I mean "Systema: Strikes" it was called.

  • Yeah, the greatest part of systema is I enjoyed many footages of it. Not just the dangerous part, it's fun to watch, and fun to practice too ^_^

  • i was here ^^ , pratising systema for the first time !

    and it was just fun and with a lot of things to work !

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