Homozygous RED Friesian Stallion Standing in California

[ShelbiSexy]

I read somewhere only first generation red Friesians can be registered, but if a red foal out of two reds can't...

[swansons55]

Dianne, It would truely make my heart attack, having to read so many uneducated and off the wall comments. This animal is well behaved-handsome-talented-baro­que and noble as all get out! What a fine representative of the Friesian horse and successful and a great promtion for the breed!

[99Jessabel99]

He's lovely.

Why would anyone think he's ruining the breed with his color? How can a horse's coat coloring be "wrong"? Who made it a rule that all Friesians have to be black? Some people think the red coloring is gorgeous. I am one of those people. ;)

[coley4horses]

Fire Magic is pretty and all but he is not very red. He sired a colt that came out a true chestnut friesian. His colt's name is Renoir and if you google his name with the words "red friesian" it will take you to his website. I have to say Fire Magic is a really cool name for a red friesian.

[equidancer]

@coley4horses For your information. Red is the term used in the Friesian World for the "red Friesian horses." Fire Magic is a liver chestnut, his son is a sorrel but both are red's. You make it sound like Fire Magic is not a red and in fact he is very red although a liver chestnut with blond feathers. I have seen pictures of his son and he is a lovely color like his Mother , who is not chestnut but sorrel. You might want to bone up on color standards and true meanings before making statements.

[ThePaintedFilly]

Fire Magic is SO not red! His son, Renoir, is an actual red stud with lots of class.

[kmathews2]

Gorgeous Homozygous RED FREISIAN Stallion. I love when people think they know what they are talking about --- WHEN they DON'T

I would love to have a cremello TB mare or Cremello Saddlebred to cross with him

[GeekGirl1000]

Beautiful horse. I've only just found out about Fox Friesians, I hope breeders create a seperate registry for them, their rarity would make them quite valuable.

[kmathews2]

@banico09 there are purebred red friesians and it can still happen if you breed a stallion and a mare that have both red genes

[banico09]

@kmathews2 I am sorry I did not comment on this video myself. Someone must of hacked my account.

[esile567]

Very nice, i didnt know there could be another color :) I like the black ones, but I think its boring that ALL of them is black. Well, almost :)

[ahotvampire]

Wow ground manners much? Hes a handsome guy though! Nice conformation. Is he in the stud book?

[equidancer]

Ground manners a bit better now, he is a bouncy guy.LOL. Absolutely in the stud book and at last check was the only registered RED in Fhana. Pass by the manners and see him work? Another page, he's the greatest.

[clairmatinaustralia]

he's very pwetty!!

[FernandoTorrera]

For the most part he looks like a faded black. Sometimes when the camera zooms closer on him I can see yeah he is a bit reddish however its not that pronounced. Does having this color mean somewhere in his family tree after the stud book was closed someone crossed with another breed or did the stud book decide to only recognize black friesians?

[LadyKatika]

He is a liver chestnut, as said in the info. Liver chestnuts are darker than the average coppery chestnut, which explains why he looks so dark. Genetically, black horses are either Ee or EE. Fire Magic is ee, meaning he has two recessive copies of the "red gene" and makes him a chestnut. Friesians used to come in red until black became the preferred color for their purpose as cart horses. Since the recessive gene can "hide" behind the dominant gene, it's still out there, but seldom shows up

[XTheRealMcCoyX]

hes gorgeous! does that mean hes homozygous recessive, then his foals wouldnt be chesnut..... but he would! Hes fiesty matches his colour :)

[equidancer]

No it means he does pass on the red gene and sires red colts

[Velfhame]

Some Friesians Carry the Chestnut gene, the Ee that can produce a black or chestnut. Stallions that are known to carry this chestnut Gene are:

Freark 218

Ijsbrand 238

Laes 278

Diedert 288

Jillis 301

Wicher 334

Atse 342

Abe 346

Chestnut foals out of two registered Friesian Parents CAN be registered they just remain in the foalbook.

[DuckofSwedan]

The sweetheart needs some ground manners....

[djb7706]

i cant believe this i thougt they were only black

[goldengirl932]

Please, change the title of this video. Its like false advertising. There is NO SUCH THING AS HOMOZYGOUS RED. He may be a chestnut, and may be a red carrier but he will NOT prodouce red foals 100% of the time...

[equidancer]

You then might want to debate the Davis Vet College because I have the DNA report that indeed says he is exactly that.

[WazzaRitazza]

Have his offspring all been 100% chesnut? Just wondering.

[LadyKatika]

Being homozygous is NOT the same as "breeding true." It simply means that the two genes that control a give locus are the same. Any homozygous animal is capable of producing offspring that is NOT the same color as them, depending on the genetics of the individual they are bred to. BTW, equidancer, I have a cremello FSH mare that has her eyes on Fire Magic ;)

[RosieAndRebel]

he's gorgeous!

[Velfhame]

So interesting and actually looks good! Very handsome and rare!

Yes, friesians are bred for black color but this can happen as Jet Black bred to Jet Black gives jet black in 75% of progeny and dark chestnut in 25% of progeny. That is why approved friesian stallions are tested on color genetics (homozygous). In fact the black color is easily bred being the second most recessive color after chestnut.

[amosunknown]

He's that color in winter too? Never heard of a red friesian. innnteresting!

[equidancer]

He's RED all the time. He is a liver chestnut, never sheds but is a brighter red in the summer. There are about 7 red Friesian mares in the U.S. one had his chestnut col, another was this stallin's half sister, all regestered Friesians. Yes there are reds the registry just doesn't want them around.

[sheedalaadie]

i can see his red much better in this video than the dancing video just because the light is natural, beautiful. ive never seen a red friesian. i just love it how all these "experts" try to tell you what your horse is lol! some people just wanna argue no matter what. i think you did well to come across this rare beauty!

[OlympianGonnaBe2020]

It says he is double registered what is he registered in?friesian registeries dont accept any color but black and even then they cant have more than a small face markin

[equidancer]

Better do your research. His number in Fhana registry 26091 his chip number is 00005799136 born in 1997 in Friesland where I purchased him at 6 months. He was registered in Friesland and then registered in the main stud book in North America Fhana. If you don't believe I have papers or you can contact Fhana directly. He is tested Davis Vet College as homozygous RED.

[AcNSmpl]

absolutely BREATHTAKING!!!! Beautiful horse! I'm speechless!

[Nenneh1978]

WOW WOW His so fine =) ME like alot <33

[CowgirlCandice]

He has a perfect trotting :)

[barnslave]

So, what's the word on the pregnancy? Did the vet find a "black dot"? :)

[Anton344]

I know of Jillis, but who is the mothers father?

[equidancer]

Peke

[Anton344]

May I ask you who his father is and the father of the mother?

[equidancer]

Jillis and Zuntera Pieternel

[equidancer]

Will know Monday.

[sheedalaadie]

ooohh you have saddlebreds too!!

[barnslave]

Is your cremello saddlebred mare pregnant? Should be a beautiful baby!

[sierrastms]

I have a 16.2 hand cremello Saddlebred mare I'm thinking of breeding to a Friesian......it would be nice to have a palomino as this particular cross with MY mare would produce palomino!

[equidancer]

I am breeding my Cremello Saddlebred mare this week to Fire Magic. I am very hopeful for a Palomino. I have a special price breeding fee of $1000 for colored mares.

[EqFriends]

He is absolutely stunning in person as well, I got to watch him and Dianne in Albany, Oregon a few years back now. He is a very rich burgundy color and not the first Friesian to crop up in a color other than black (since black is recessive). The chestnuts are noted in Friesian history as well as the fact that the majority of them were never registered. Cheers Dianne and Fire Magic!

[EqFriends]

chestnut is the recessive although the black color occurs less frequently (duh)

[equidancer]

Since Fire Magic was bred and born in Holland he is truly one of a kind as at last check with Fhana he is the only red registered Friesian stallion. Fun huh. Four mares are being bred this year. I am going for Palominos and Cremellos

[RazzMatazzFreak]

He's wonderful and good god does he has such fluid, elastic movement! Good luck and I hope he produces more foals, I'd love to see them in the show ring!

[TheGypsyStarr]

I thought Friesians could only be pure black in color? I didn't know there was such a thing as a "Red" Friesian. Wow I learn something new everyday.

[AngelBelladonna]

it's a chestnut like every other breed. they can have chestnuts but it's very rare.

[Stuckinabook]

lol

[BellesAHippie]

wow hes gorgeous! you should totally post a picture of his registry so everyone will leave you alone about his height and color etc.

BEAUTIFUL!

[gr4di4tor]

lol! there are no "homozygous" red friesians!

[plottluvr07]

Yes there are. Not all Friesians are black. They do allow other solid colors such as the chestnut of this horse.

[Jaudis]

All evidence to the contrary.

[prettyponey234]

your horse is BEAUTIFUL!! omg i love the chestnut color on a fresian

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[equineangel91]

wow pp on here can be so tempermental :P

That horse is beautiful :) and energetic

[Stuckinabook]

Why when I give my opinion its temermental??

[Stuckinabook]

Chaniging the colour of a Fresian is totallyruining the breed.

[equidancer]

Talk to the breeders in Friesland, that's where I bought him.

[Stuckinabook]

Sorry :( Hes nice and all I've just not seen anything like him before.

[prettyponey234]

i personally think a chestnut fresian is not ruining the breed. this horse has amazing conformation and a pretty gait and headset. i think the color would be a bonus if you bred to this stallion.

[Stuckinabook]

Yes but natural friesians will be run out if we continue this.

[Merlin0110]

Stuckinabook - never! This is a wonderful horse, every friesian, but only a black friesian is a real friesian!

[Stuckinabook]

Exactly my point!

[goldengirl932]

actually its not, the red has been there. if you breed 2 black horses together there is that chance of having a red foal under the right circumstance. for example if you have a dam and a sire that are both black yet are known red carriers (Ee) then you can have a 25% chance of a red baby. either way if either the dam and sire isnt homozygous black there is that chance of a red foal. besides the fact that its a color, not a pattern. id agree if they were breeding in stripes or making them spotted

[goldengirl932]

ruining the breed i mean =] by the way, hes beuatiful! if i didnt have all geldings and minis and if i lived in california id definetly contact you =]

[Southwinde]

Not so, goldengirl. If you breed a homozygous black to any other black--regardless of homozygosity--you will always produce a black foal.

[Stuckinabook]

Really?? Wow!

[Stuckinabook]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Chill out.

[xxxprairyxxx]

woow hij is echt heel mooi maar hij gedraagt zich wel eng

[shadowmice2003]

good heavens he moves NICE and I love his color! He looks like he can be a real prankster tho :)

[HorseLover417]

aww he is adorable!!

[lilmisskissmybutt]

Arab? 15.2? He looks every bit Fresian & defently looks 17 hh

[howlsn]

Yes I've seen the photo's of him on your website under saddle & he definately looks every part of 17hh.

[howlsn]

Don't you just love how people can be so negative, looking at the measuring point I would think he measures 17hh but his topline makes him look smaller.

Anyways regardless his size he'd be welcome in my stable anyday. I am in Australia & would love to visit your show Equidancer sometime in the future, I am in a similar line of work/performances & whilst I'd love to add Friesians to my lineup I'll have to wait until my bank account can afford the hefty price of the good ones out here.

[equidancer]

Yes, people are quick to judge that which they know nothing about. This stallion is almost too big for the work I do with him but he is a talent. Hope you get a Friesian someday. Australia is one place I've never been, would love to see it.

[EnglishRider320]

he looks like hes got some ARAB in him...and 17 hands?..that cant be possible, hes like 14.2 - 15.2, 15.3 at the most.

[equidancer]

Whatever you guys say, you must be experts but you guys go for it. The fact remains he is 17 hands a purebred registered Friesian stallion in both Fhana and Friesland. He is homozygous red tested. Look and weap you can't change facts.

[EnglishRider320]

like cattlemanroam said, unless the person handling him is REALLY tall, u cant be serious. and i WOULD know what 17 hands looks like, my belgian is 17.3 closer to 18 tho. he is gorgeous i'll give you that. i'll believe you, but i geuss i would have to really see to believe. maybe it's just the camera, i dont know. Good luck to him, handler and owner tho :]

[imjustjoking22]

my boyfriend is 6'2" and measured up about the same to my 17.1 warmblood- so that horse can easily be 17 hh. what a stupid, random thing to bring up! obviously this owner of a STALLION probably has the ability to measure his/her horses. duh.

[cattlemanroam]

equidancer said "First time he's been called cute if 17 hands can be cute. Glad you enjoyed him." Unless the handler in this video is over 8 feet tall this is not a 17 hand stallion. If the handler is 6`2 he is maybe 15.1 or 15.2 hands which is the average and perfect height for this breed of horse. Very lovely horse and can`t wait to see more of him once he`s been trained to behave in hand.

[aimlssnet]

I thought exactly the same thing when I saw this video a few years ago, but after meeting "Chewie" in person, I can vouch that he really is 17hh. And by the way...thanks for saying 15.1 or 15.2 is average and perfect height for this breed.....my stallion is 15.2 and gets called the "Wee Frie" because people are so used to seeing the giant Friesians that are so popular these days ;{

[Jaudis]

Actually, yes... the handler is 6'2", and yes... Chewy is all of 17hh. If you're waiting to watch him based on his handling ability, you're truely missing out.

[twinkell2007]

aww hes soo cute i also have a friesian his name is Dolton and i have a video of him and me on my youtube site XD

[booyea11]

aww he kind of reminds me of a morgan! cute

[equidancer]

First time he's been called cute if 17 hands can be cute. Glad you enjoyed him.

[AbbyRM07]

My friend sent her fresian mare to a trainer and the trainer made her live in a roundpen with 6 inches of sand for 3 months, by the time she got her back ALL of her feathers were worn off of her legs beause of the sand. She almost cried.

[madmarelucy]

My Friesian goes red in the sun and he's a purebred, sired by Teunis 332. Everyone commented on his colour in the summer. Even in the winter we can still see a trace of 'copper' on his feathers although has gone black now.

[equidancer]

Going red in the summer is just bleaching. Fire Magic is homozygous RED and produces red.

[Redhawk7]

Beautiful horse...however... The Friesian breed is almost exclusively black; in fact, it is the only color recognized by registries. A very, very rare Chestnut will sometimes occur-- this only happens when both parents are not homozygous blacks. Most friesians are homozygous, and can never sire a chestnut foal. Silver has also rarely occurred in the Friesian.

[equidancer]

Fire Magic is red and is a registered stallion both in Friesland where I imported him and also is registered in the North American Fhana.

[circuitchamp]

He dosn't seem to have the "classic" Friesian look, but he is pretty.

[theFoxCrit]

HE IS GORGIOUS!!! He looks like he could be a hanful though!!

[LucyXenaCL]

beautiful coloring. He seems very nice.

[littledancer14]

is he well behaved as a stallion? cos some stallions are mental! very pretty tho :)

[equidancer]

Very well behaved, just full of himself

[keldysh84]

But you cannot breed red friesans, can you?

[equidancer]

Yes you can but I believe they have to be registered in the B book. The purest are very against it.

[jessyquedens]

Damn, what a good-looking horse, whatever his color! In the opening and closing shots, he looks more like a bay than a liver chestnut. In between, in some lights, he looks nearly black. So I guess I'll take your word for it!

[equidancer]

Yes, it takes the sun to see his color but he is definately Red. I jsut sent in his hair for DNA testing for breeding.

[getgorgeousnow]

STUNNING!!!! he looks like a handful!!! where r u located?

[equidancer]

Grass Valley CA now. Video taken in Montana

[getgorgeousnow]

of course! seems like everyone ends up in cALI!! i ride more like appys/qaurterhorse type, used to ride 1/2 arabs, but this breed hs got ot be the most impressive. how did u gt into the Friesians

[equidancer]

I had one of the first Friesians when they were really unusual. I trained and show him them across the country as a entertainment performance. Saw the first one in a circus in Europe, then the search was on.

[emr2e]

Were you at the CA state fair this year? If so I saw him there. I think you also did a performance on another friesian and an arab?

[Jaudis]

Yes, she performed at the '07 CA State Fair with Fire Magic, as well as another friesian, an arab, and a lippizzan.

[dracomancer01]

oh hes gorgeous and great music choice <3 ladyhawke

[newlandersb]

I agree...more ladyhawke music, and what was the music behind the free lunge inside the arena? Didn't recognise it, but fit his movement beautifully. Very athletic horse!

[equidancer]

I believe I used the theme from the movie Robin Hood

[Mizzhorselover]

pretty cool!

[driverxs]

they aren't completely pure bread(I don't know much about that anyway), but they have a life of luxury, I assure you. Sometimes I  want to be in their place=)

[equidancer]

Well I am sure they are lucky happy horses. They really do have great temperments

[driverxs]

I have 5 of them at my fathers range. They are majestic, but have a bad character=)

[equidancer]

Are you an expert on Friesian character? Maybe range care is not acceptable for a purebred horse of this quality

[friesianzfozzel]

these horses are gorgeous i love friesians soo much! I am soo jealous! I dont suppose you know anyone with a friesian gelding for sale in the uk for around £5,000 do you?? If you do please let me know by replying to my comment!!! Thanks

[equidancer]

Sorry, I don't have any contacts in the UK

[newlandersb]

You do to! You have me, remember?

Try looking in Horse and Hound,you might have to wait for one to grow up, but it would be worth the wait! I think also under Freisians on u-tube there are several for sale but don't remember their prices or where they were.

Loved the Ladyhawke music. Used to ride to it all the time.Love to see Equidancer to dance to that but probably already has.

Love ya

Suzi

(Am trying to sound English while still an American living in the south of England)

[madmarelucy]

Hi Friesianfozzel I saw your message about wanting a Friesian. I know someone who has imported them we have bought 2 off her. If you want details get back to me.

[friesianzfozzel]

hi madmarelucy yes i am still looking for a friesian please could you give me more details! Thanks again for your help!

[CutterGrl05]

He looked black to me up until the 1:30-34(ish) marks. Beautiful Stallion.

[Sabley]

what color are his children/were his parents? black is supposed to be the dominant color in friesians, so one of his parents must have been red?

[equidancer]

One colt is red out of a red Friesian mare. His sire carried the red gene which some Friesians do. Fire Magic is registered in Friesland and the Fhana in the US

[malyzyosa]

beautiful!!!

[dutchddog]

How old is this stallion? Any photos or vids of his get?

[equidancer]

Fire Magic was born in Friesland in 1997. I brought him at 6 months. I'll post a picture of his first purebred colt

[dutchddog]

Where/how would one see that picture? In ten years he has had only one registered get? Has he bred outside then? Have you ever bred him to an Arab or a Morgan mare?

[equidancer]

I'm not into breeding, he is used for performing. He has two foals and two mares asorbed. I can send you the photo if you send your email address. He was bred to one Arab mare, she asorbed.

[equidancer]

Yes, the music is from LadyHawke

[westernwondr32]

absolutely gorgeous! i love this breed and andalusians. btw where is this song from? is it from the movie ladyhawke?

[westernwondr32]

absolutely gorgeous! i love this breed and andalusians. btw where is this song from? is it from the movie ladyhawke?

[Alchemical]

There's a model horse made after him isn't there?

[equidancer]

Yes, Breyer made the model named Fire Magic in 2005. He also appeared as a special performance at Breyerfest.

[aowrya]

a little snotty, haha, but GORGEOUS!! and very fun to watch :)

[omgcandy]

Oh wow hes beautiful!