Cleopatra VII Queen of Egypt - SLAVIC QUEEN OF EGYPT??

[VendPrekmurec]

Egyptian Heru (Horus) is Slavic "pagan Horo or Hors(a constellation). Egyptian Ra is Slavic Ra or Ramha (Brahma in India), Mehet Weret (flood) is Slavic Makosh mother Mat' (Maat in Egypt), Weret means "to boil her milk " (Milky way)

so ... ask yourself what was called cult in in so clled "Zep Tepi" time

[portugachica]

CLEOPATRA WAS WHITE.END OF DISCUSION.

[Dijana3765]

Cleopatra was MACEDONIAN...and this document is the proof. never a Greek..and don't you ever mention that gypsy greeks together with Macedonians...please..

[SMYRNAfreedom]

@Dijana3765

When Alexander entered Asia Minor, the first thing he did was go to his ancestor's grave, the Greek king Achilles.

Greek King Alexander the Great sent 300 armors, spoils from Asia to one of the most sacred Greek temples, the Athenian Parthenon. When he returned to Greece, he restored the statues on the Athenian Acropolis that were removed by the Persians.

Alexander the Great speaking with Diogenes, "I desire that victorious HELLENES SHOULD DANCE AGAIN - in India.."

[SMYRNAfreedom]

@Dijana3765 > FYROM FRAUD

Only a Greek can be a Macedonian. Alexander, Phillip, Cleopatra, Ptolomy are all Greek names of famous Greeks. Makedon is a very important Greek name from the origins of Greeks and Hellas, also home to the Greek Gods. FYROM is an absurd fraud and will become the laughing stock of history soon. Only a Greek can be a Macedonian - Alexandros was only Greek and built Greek cities, spread Greek culture and language. Makedon Greek Forever.

[portugachica]

@Dijana3765 YES SHE WAS 100% GREEK.

[Dijana3765]

Cleopatra signed herself as MACEDONIAN...not GREEK..why is that so? Macedonians occupied Greece and took them as slaves with them to concor other lands...Macedonians never had anything with the Greeks...Why do you meantion Greek -Macedonian or macedonian-greek???

[mispistoleros]

some theorize that the macedonian were founded by migrants of the hebrew dan and maneseh tribes, that the ptolemy dynasty was hebrew. there is very little doubt that the biblical patriarchs were the hyksos pharaohs. there is some evidence that abraham may have usurped the 11 dynasty throne and ruled as amenemhet I, establishing the 12th dynasty.

the hyksos were driven from lower egypt in an internecine civil was over apis-worship in the new age of aries, the ram.

history is stranger than fiction

[hmorganman]

By the time Cleopatra came to the throne, the royalty was highly stratified from the indigenous people who were black. The elite considered themselves to be Greek/Macedonian. The Egyptians of today descend from Arab invaders. The artifacts from Cleopatras reign, including her bust, were hauled out of Egypt long ago. Thankfully, the photos have been digitized and are on the net.

[seplin]

Thats coptic script,. Coptic or Coptic Egyptian is the final stage of the Egyptian language, a northern Afro-Asiatic language spoken in Egypt until at least the seventeenth century.

[cell455]

all north africans are not berber.read history.

[vford43]

This is garbage. Cleoptra was 100% black/Egyptian. Europe wasn't even on the map during this time. Everyone knows that real kings and queens of this time were of darker complexion and lived in Africa.

[1selfmademan]

Ptolemy XII (Macedonian, European) was Cleopatra's father and her mother was an African Queen. Almsot like Barak Obama's racial mixture. So its pretty safe to say that she was black, a black woman.

[tamertarek]

Firstly: She was Macedonian

Secondly: There was nothing black about Egypt

[vford43]

Firstly: You wish.

Secondly: Then move Egypt from Africa to Ireland and see what they tell you. LOL "Nigger go back to Africa" Better yet move it to the United States.

[tamertarek]

I live in Holland. Land of education. At college we learn that Egyt adopted foreign languages, rulers and religions throughout the ages. The Egyptians DIDN'T MIX.

[vford43]

Holland!! I find it funny when someone who is not Black try to tell me about my history. LOL If Egyptians did not mix & from Greece, why were they in Egypt/Africa? Greece & Africa is two different places. Egypt is was like the Roman empire & more powerful even before the Black Queen Cleopatra. Egyptians with their nappy/big hair, wide noises, black skin, big lips, full figured women, & thick bones, they are Black/Negros/Africans. Skin tones of blacks range from light to dark.

[vford43]

I tell you what tamertarek, you stick with your so call "Fine Education in Holland" and TRY FINDING A JOB. I will stick with being a Black/Egyptian/Educated Employed Woman. LOL LOL Stay off you tube trying to tell other nationality of people who they are, who they can be, and what they are not. IN OTHER WORDS, STOP BEING A EDUCATED FOOL! You know nothing about being Black.

[tamertarek]

YOU? EGYPTIAN?? DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH! IT'S REALLY AN INSULT FOR US EGYPTIANS IF PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH EGYPT CALL THEMSELVES EGYPTIANS! Stick to your West-African Tribal heritage. You are a race traitor!

[vford43]

I tell you what, try relocating Egypt to Ireland and see what they tell you. LOL LOL I think you have it twisted you are trying to be something you're not and ashamed of who you really are, BLACK. If you don't want anything to do with Africa, then MOVE. But in the meantime, get your educated so call self and get a job. Because we all know Holland citizens are having a hell of a time finding jobs. LOL LOL I think you have a enough to worry about than to concern yourself with who is Black. LOL

[tamertarek]

I don't live in Egypt. I love in Holland. I see no reason for moving to Ireland, although it's very nice.

I am not black. Who are you to tell me I am black? I am pure North African. Not black. Not Arab.

[vford43]

No, you are PURE Nigga in denial. Peace! LOL LOL

[tamertarek]

What tha hell are you saying? I am not black.  I am mostly North African with some European mixture!

[vford43]

No fool, you already made it very clear that you are not Black. I thought you were so educated? Duh

[tamertarek]

lol. you're silly

[vford43]

LOL you are dumb and ignorant.

[tamertarek]

Mkay, are you done now?

[vford43]

Are you? Sense you are the one that originally responded to me. I did not initiate the conversation; you did.

[tamertarek]

I see this is going nowhere.

[vford43]

Then stop sending me comments.

[gaastra12]

all north africans are fucking berber arab crap

[tamertarek]

Not completely true. There are Egyptians too, but no Arabs. All of them left after they have conquered us.

[gaastra12]

no, like in morocco there are berbers and also arabs

[tamertarek]

Yeah, but only 10-15 % of Morocco is ETHNIC Arab. If you and your parents are born in the big cities like: Marrakech, Casablanca, Rabat, Fez, etc. you're called Arab. If you are from the mountains, then you'll be called a Berber.

[iDenmark]

nahh...

[vford43]

Oh yes, try sending a email to Elizabeth Taylor and let her know "Cleopatra was a sista"

[tamertarek]

Lol, you're silly. Just like the others who desperetly want to be Egyptian!

[vonbelle]

hahahaha lol!

[portugachica]

@vford43 U SOB.HOW DARE U?????????!!!!!

[Raybanmonster]

On Cleopatra's facial reconstruction Archaeologist Dr Hilke Thuer from the Austrian Academy of Sciences, who led the discovery, says: "It is unique in the life of an archaeologist to find the tomb &the skeleton of a member of Ptolemaic dynasty. The results of the forensic examination and the fact that the facial reconstruction shows that Arsinoe had an African mother is a real sensation which leads to a new insight on Cleopatra's family & the relationship of the sisters Cleopatra & Arsinoe."

[DEFACTO9]

Dr. Sally Ann Ashton of Cambridge University believes that a computer-generated 3D image captures the best likeness of the Egyptian queen. The image, compiled from artefacts that existed during Cleopatra's reign, shows that she is a brown-skinned woman of mixed ethnicity. Not exactly a match for Sophia Loren either.Get you facts about black people straight before whitening . Even the BBC allowed programmes to publicise the fact that she had AFRICAN BLACK HERITAGE. suck it! Egypt was not WHITE!

[DEFACTO9]

Cleopatra was not a white Caucasian woman with blue eyes, she was an African and so black, that the Romans considered it Treason that she had sex with a Roman leader. Stop thinking about the films that mistakenly attribute her as a white Caucasian.. that is just racist denial of blackness... yet again...

[nickpafras]

cleopatra was a descendant of Ptolemy, a general in alexander the Greats army. she was NOT black. secondly, if you have ever been to egyp (which i doubt) you would see what egyptians look like and they are not BLACK in any shape or form. I bet you think the ancient Greeks were black too huh? type in miss egypt in google or president of Egypt, and tell me if these people look black to you.

[DEFACTO9]

Oh grow up please and update your sources. You read from historical texts that still have a racist bent WAKE UP. We now know Cleopatra was MIXED RACE NOT WHITE! We also know that Egypt was ruled by black people NOT ARABS. Arabs came AD influx NOT BC.. get your facts straight. We know that NUBIA rulled over Egyptians and vice versa, they were NOT racially distinct.. These are places you could walk to. Dont be so backward, else ask yourself, what does the Royal Symbol of TWO SNAKE heads mean?

[nickpafras]

Egypt was NOT ruled by black people. the egyptian empire lasted over 2,000 years and was only ruled by black people for a short period of time (specifically the 12th dynasty). I have seen that silly documentary that SPECULATES from computer images that Cleopatra was mixed race was but there is ZERO definitive evidence. I know when arabs came into egypt and I am telling you that Egyptians WERE a distinct race.

[nickpafras]

Arabs came from the rise of Islam in the region during the 6th and 7th centuries. Before arabic the egyptians spoke coptic and we know of famous egyptian Christian saints like Abanub, Bishoy and Catherine of Alexandria who lived during the 2nd and third centuries who were NOT BLACK. I know what the fuck im talking about I was born and raised in the Greek quarter of Alexandria, Egypt.

[Raybanmonster]

Yes and if you go back further, you are stupid asshole to deny any black involvement when we know Cleopatra was mixed race NOT white, and further back we know that Nubia ruled as a kingdom over egypt for centuries with many black Pharaohs. Be careful what you imply because Africa is not a caucasian place fool.

[nickpafras]

we DO NOT know if cleopatra was mixed race. There is ONLY speculation. there is NO DEFINITIVE EVIDENCE. Cleopatra was from the house of Ptolemy which was Greek. There is speculation that she could have been mixed race but there is ZERO evidence. Nubia DID NOT rule over Egypt. Nubian Kings ruled over Egypt, there is a difference. There is a difference between egyptian and Arab although they are similar.

[nickpafras]

lastly, google "staute of cleopatra" or "cleopatra coins" and you will see that she has typical Caucasian features specifically classic features of a Greek. She has a narrow nose with a large bridge and slightly wavy hair. Again, I know what I am talking about because I grew up in the Greek quarter of Egypt and I know what a black egyptian looks like and and a regular egyptian.

[nickpafras]

btw, Christian egyptians are NOT arabs. They are original Egyptians. The only speak arabic because the vast majority of the population is muslim. Egyptian Christians were not mixed with Arabs when the arab invasion came because they were Christians and not muslim and therefor did not intermarry with Arab muslims.

[nickpafras]

And Egyptian Chrisitans speak coptic in Church. Thats why they are known as "copts". Do not think that you can educate me on my own country.

[nickpafras]

Cleopatra comes from a GREEK royal house. Ptolemy who was one of Alexander the Greats Generals took over Egypt once Alexander died and established the Ptolemaic dynasty. Cleopatra is his Great Great Great Grandaughter. it is likely that she was mixed of Egyptian and Greek blood but there is no evidence that she had Black in her. Also, Julius Caesar and Mark Antony would not have had sex with somebody that had black features or looked black because blacks were considered a slave race to Romans.

[Raybanmonster]

Yes there is evidence,

Her sister Arsinoe has been found to have African ancestry. That means by implication she and her sister were mixed race. Egyptian people are black people not caucasian people, else why did the Italians view Mark Antonys affair as treasonous? Why did many black Pharaoes rule over Egypt? Some of you are living in a fantasy about a peoples origins in an African place, its laughable, even your own Historical knowledge is tainted with nonsense, every African knows this

[nickpafras]

egyptian people are NOT black. Yes, there are black egyptians, but they are NOT the rule, they are the exception. If the egyptians were black then they would like much more black than they do today. They would like like sudanese who are mixed between black and arab. but they dont. Egyptians were just like any other north african like the berbers. There is a reason why the term "sub-saharan African" exists. because north africans look completely different from black people.

[nickpafras]

seriously, I do not even know why im having the conversation with you when you have never been to egypt to see for yourself. I LIVED in Egypt almost my whole life and Im married to a copt.

[nickpafras]

look up the Etymology of Cleopatra and you will see that it is a Greek name.

[Raybanmonster]

A surname is no predictor of Genotype my freind.

[Raybanmonster]

stop putting your head in the sand and step back. breathe and think .

Why would many CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY lecturers and the BRITISH MUSEUM accept the findings that Cleoptatra was in fact mixed race and NOT caucasian?

Why did Herodotus call the Egyptians a BLACK LIKE peoples?

Why did Egypt recognise NUBIA several times in history as thier RULERS?

Why did the Romans view Mark-Amtonys affair with Cleopatra TRESONOUS if she was WHITE?

What does the emblem of TWO SNAKES on a Royal head garment MEAN?

[nickpafras]

1. Scholars say many things often times with an agenda.

2. Black like, does not mean black. there is a clear difference between sub-saharan africans and north africans. thats a fact.

3. Mark antonys affair with cleopatra was treasonous because she was EGYPTIAN and not Roman. It was only viewed as treasonous because mark antony made cleopatra the heir of the easter roman empire and giving part of the empire to an egyptian was treasonous.

3.

[Raybanmonster]

Oh my god.. utter rubbish

[portugachica]

@nickpafras SHE WAS NOT EGYPTIAN SHE WAS GREEK.

[nickpafras]

3. If somebody was clearly black, they would not be reffered to as "black like". They would be referred to as black. I would not refer to a white person as "white like" I would say white. the nubians only ruled egypt for a limited amount of time. the 12th dynasty to be exact. Ive said it once but ill say it again. The fact that the terms "sub-saharan" african and "north african" exist dictates that there is a clear difference between the two. North africans, berbers, moors, egyptians.

[Raybanmonster]

You are clearly deluded

[nickpafras]

im deluded? really? ok, please tell me, since you have obviously been to egypt so many times and have seen the people there. Where are all of these black egyptians?? Surely, if egyptians were black then that means that modern Egyptians would be arab-black mixed people. So, tell me since you are obviously an expert Egyptiologist. Where are all of these black egyptians??

[Raybanmonster]

Phwahaha

Still you cannot understand that what you see mostly are Arab decendants who have mixed predominantly with the indigenous. it isnt rocket science. Clearly then as the predominant phenotype, over time all decendants will generally come to look Arab. If you go to japan and raise family thier, eventually your decendants will merge to look more Japanese since that is the predominant phenotype SIMPLE. The way you look says LITTLE about your genetic inheritance we are ALL mixed race

[nickpafras]

what you are is FULL OF SHIT. you simply do not want to accept that north africans are different than sub-saharan africans. There is a reason why the term "north african" and "sub-saharan africans" these are anthropological terms that differentiate between peoples of africa. Berber, moors and Egyptians were not black people. plain and simple. your example of Japan is flawed. If egyptians were black then you would be able to see that they are mixed between black and arab. but they are not!!!

[Raybanmonster]

North Africans are a MIX YES MIX of Phenotype between Sub-suharan Africans, Arabs and caucasians. This racial group is JUST A HUMAN BOX, RACE is simply a HUMAN pigeon hole. Scientifically there is no such thing as RACE!! because we all exist on a continuum. We are ALL uni que. Almost every permutation exists somewhere in the world. A black person may be more linked to Copernicus than ANY white. YOU CANNOT TELL by looking that Obamas kids are 25% "white" can you? NO.. wake up idiot lololl

[nickpafras]

I know the difference between black and arab mix like Sudanese and Egyptians. end of story.

[Raybanmonster]

what a silly comment, would you know Obamas kids are quater "white" by looking at them? What more then hundreds of generations.. the way you look means didly squat when it comes to genetics.. clearly we have surpassed the limits of your own knowledge and understanding. You only trust that which you can see for yourself, silly

[nickpafras]

actually, yes I could easily tell that obamas kids have white in them. There is a big difference between pure africans and mixed. Most african ameriacans are mixed anyway. But you are missing the point. The black gene is dominant over white and arab genes. If Egyptians were black, you would see huge numbers of people with african features in egypt, but you dont. like i said before, I was raised in Egypt and I know the difference between a black and arab mix v.s. egyptian arab.

[Raybanmonster]

Your talking nonsense

the there is no "black gene" because all those genes are shared by all racial subgroups including cuacasian. You are talking to a biochemist by degree, and you are confused with the science Im afraid. Race is a man made category not a scientific one. We are ALL mixed race because we are all unique, if u go back far enough all of our ancestors were "black", please wake up. Egyptians were black, even Nubians ruled over them and NO talk RACIAL DISTINCTION has EVER been found

[nickpafras]

There is a reason that most black and white mixes end up looking more black than white. please tell me scientist, why is that???

[nickpafras]

I mean fast twitch muscles.

[nickpafras]

Egyptians were not black. you are a black supremacist idiot. I understand your pain since black people are the most hated people in every country including egypt.

[nickpafras]

also, please tell me what Copts are not black since they are not arabs.

[nickpafras]

I dont even know why i am arguing with you. i was born and raised in Egypt and I know what Egyptians look like and I know what black people look like. Your comparisons are nonsense and you have never even been to egypt. Stop your black supremacist nonsense. people from Northern Sudan are mixed between arabs and blacks and you can clearly tell this from their features. you know absolutely SHIT about egypt and egpytians.

[Raybanmonster]

You need to think carefully with your head and less aboiut your emotion, clkearly I am not talking to someone with academic credentials.

[nickpafras]

btw, u keep saying cleopatra was mixed. If egyptians were black what was she mixed by.

[nickpafras]

Also, Race is not a man made categoy. Black people have larger skulls and cheek bones than whites, they also have more smaller twitch muscles in their legs. there are clear racial distinctions between black and white.

[DEFACTO9]

these racial distictinctions are simply grouped or clustered genes, in the same way a family member has a tendancy also for large ear lobes or height or long legs, nothing more. Your at the limit of your scientific understanding and your filling the gaps with nonsense. There is NO RACE because we all exist on a continuum regarding all genes including skin colour, hair kink and nose shape. None of these things is exclusive to any one race. read some books do some study please

[nickpafras]

that is simply not true. It is a simple fact that Africans, Caucasians and Asians have a different cranial morphology. also, Africans have more fast twitch muscles in their legs, which is why they are such good runners. whether you want to admit it or not, the are differences.

[DEFACTO9]

that different cranial morphology isnt exclusive to those races. Asians can be quite negroid in feature set with wide noses and big lips, similarly with caucasians, and Africans can have slender facial features. This fast twitch muscle fibre is somewhat of a red herring. it may be common in black people (if there is such a thing scientifically) but it is not EXCLUSIVE it is just clustered genes which are not linked to a "black" person. What is black and what is white anyway? it cannot be defined

[nickpafras]

ok, ill try and be specific so you can understand what I am trying to say. What I am speaking of has nothing to do with skin color. I am speaking strictly about physiological features. when I say cranial morphology I am not speaking about skin. I am speaking about the actual skull. The indegenous people of sub-saharan africa have larger cheek bones and a larger mandable. (continued)

[nickpafras]

Any anatomist, for example, can look at a skull and instantly tell you if it belongs to a person of african or caucasian ancestry, and this is born out by the fact that when a person's body is found, that person's race can be determined even if it is completely decomposed and only the skeleton is remaining. The sub-saharan african skull is narrow with a low forehead. It is not only smaller but is thicker than that of the average person of Caucasian ancestry.

[portugachica]

@nickpafras YES IT MEANS PRIDE OF HER FATHER OR SOMETHING.I AM NOT SURE.

[josefburker]

Cleopatra Philapetore VII was very close to the romans (Rom, Italy) that Julius C. and Mark A. got killed but Mark kinda killed himself!

[vetdino]

BTW, tomorrow, October 26th is the 96th aniversary of the LIBERATION of Thessaloniki by the Greek Army :)

LONG LIVE THESSALONIKI!!!

LONG LIVE MACEDONIA!!!

LONG LIVE GREECE!!!

[vetdino]

finally kid, it is very sad, that young people like you grow up nurtured with hate and lies! read real history, from independant sources to see who the ancient macedonians were, read the history of the Balkans prior to the Balkan wars and after that! and, more importantly, see what may be good for your country, which today, thanks to the policy of your nationalistic leaders has become the shitwhole of the area, with pooverty, high enemployment, and criminality!

[vetdino]

FYROM, of you wish, Slavomacedonia has become a safehaven for drug-dealers and prostitution! by stealing history, or demanding land you will never be able to manage, you do nothing to improve the shit your country is in! what do you want? eternal isolation from NATO and the EU, or to see facts realistically and try to work for a better future? consider that Greece has a highly trained and technologically advanced army, it can occupie Skopje in 12 hours... do not push the Greeks!

[Ivanshere]

THE NAMES ARE PHILLIP AND ALEXANDER. What fucken fact are you talking about!? I TOLD U Bulgarians r a mixture of Macedonian and Uzbekisani (WHEREMANYJEWS COME FROM FOR THE TENTH TIME!). What the fuck are greeks a mixture of!? Countless races, so many nationalities that I dont even know if it can fit on sum SUPER-calculator. There arent many criminals in our country just the albanians and those fucking scumbag greeks. Look at ur fucken corrupt country with the fucked up police and government!

[vetdino]

The names Philippos (Philip) and Alexandros (Alexander), are Greek names with Greek etymology... Φίλιπππος: from Filos=frend and ippos= horse means a friend of horses and Αλεξανδρος: from Alex=to protect from/repell and andros=man mean he who protects from men... what do the names mean in your Bulgarian dialect? what about Boucephalas or Thessaloniki? You haven't really ever been in Skopje, have you? The most corrupt and shit country in the Balkans! worse than Albania!!

[ink24571]

what does it matter? We are all people in the end, right? Can you say that there was one pure person, and then there was something else that resembled a person, that had the same characteristics and functions as any other person, but was not a person?

[amfipolis]

I am from the family of the Ptolemies and my surname is still kept as Soter (in contemporary Greek is Sotiras= Saviour) which was the surname of the first Makedon (Hellenistic Era) Emperor of Egypt. My cousins still keep the surname of Lagos as that was the name of his father.

Slavs = Sklavoi = Slaves as this was their connection with the Byzantine Era of the Greek History.

I am proud an alive descendant of Ptolemy Soter

[ivanlo2]

I heard Macedonian not Slavic. The Slavic people didn't exist then, neither did they live in Macedonia, they were Greek.

There was a Ukranian empress in the Ottoman empire. That is much more recent and more proveable.

[vetdino]

man, who's telling you this shit? really... get a doctor or something

[Ivanshere]

oh please stop being a jealous greek slutish imbreed its ok if you admit Cleopatra and Alexander The Great as Macedonian! greece was a scumish word that had never belonged to this planet. greeks did NOT invent maths - it was invented by E.T. (sounds like greeks r ET but theyre mixed arab imbrets).

[vetdino]

ha ha... you paranoid Slavs... get over it! you are Bulgarians! your ex prime minister admited it and got a BULGARIAN passport!!!!!!!! it can't get more serious!! YOU ARE BRAINWASHED BULGARIANS AND CAN'T ADMIT THE TRUTH!!

[Ivanshere]

ex prime minister? who the fuck would that be ur only imaginary 'friend'? bulgarians are similar to Macedonians, only they are a mixture of Macedonian and Uzbekistani blood it has been proven! The jews come from Uzbekistan or around that area look at the people and genetics! I dont know HOW Macedonians are bulgarians sounds like another greek bullshited fairy taletome!

Cleopatra and Alexander The Great were Macedonian stop saying they were greek! its exactly the same like saying theyre arabs!

[vetdino]

Macedonians were Greeks, like Spartans, Atheneans, Thessalians, Corinthians, Ephessians etc...

You don't know your prime minister from 1998 to 2002, mr Ljubčo Georgievski, founder of the VMRO party... On July 14, 2006 it was announced that Ljubčo Georgievski applied for and was granted Bulgarian citizenship on the basis that his parents are Bulgarians and that he has a Bulgarian national identity... like all the people of the so called "Republic of -wannabe- Macedonia".... oooops!!!

[Ivanshere]

Whoa! Someone is desperate to proove that MACEDONIA is arabic! WE DONT LOOK ARABIC! In case you didnt know, I come from Aegean Macedonia (now in fucking greece) but I am one of those who rebelled against the greeks from making me greek when I am actually Macedonian (that is something you would hear from my grandparents).

So what do your comments from wikipedia prove!? Dont u listen to MY comments? (FUCK NOT ENOUGH SPACE)

[vetdino]

you're 16 and you grew up being feed endless propaganda from school and moronic nationalists... think about it... you are racially, ethically, culturally and linguistically SLAVS, closely related to bulgarians! that is a fact! slavs arrived to the balkans after the 7th century ancient macedonians spoke and wrote in greek, had greek names like alexandros or philippos, they worshiped the greek gods, participated in the (only for greeks) olympic games and spreak GREEK culture to the world!!

[vetdino]

second, there was NEVER a separate macedonian country inhabited by a distinct macedonian nation! the "united macedonia" your nationalists refer to, was a province of the ottoman empire inhabited by a mosaic of people including Greeks, Bulgarian, Turks, Albanians, Jews etc... your VMRO heroes were ALL Bulgarian agents, finaced by the Bulgarian state and they fought as volunteers with the BULGARIAN army in the Balkan wars and world war! FACTS!!! look at them!! think for yourself!!

[vetdino]

third, a macedonian nation is NOT even mentioned in ANY sensus conducted in Macedonia (the geographical area) prior to the Balkan war... and we are talking about scientific studies by Turks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks, French, German, American, Italian, English... NOONE MENTIONS a "macedonian" national identity... simply because it didn't EXIST!! it's not a world conspiracy... it's a FACT! your national identity has been forged over the last 60 years. before that, your ancestors felt BULGARIANS!

[vetdino]

fourth, during the Greek civil war, some slavophones, living in northern Greece, who had a distinct national identity and who until the early 20th century thought themselves as BULGARIANS, thus fighting with the BULGARIAN-operated and inspired VMRO, joined the Greek communist party in a rebellion against the legal greek government. the Greek communist party had promised a particion of northern greece and the creation of an independant MULTINATIONAL Macedonian state

[vetdino]

they played their cards, chose the wrong side and LOST!! fair and square! when you constitute less that 9% of the area's population (in 1946) and you go against the 90%... you loose! in fear of retaliation after the government forces won the war, the Slavopones who didn't think themselves as greeks, left the country! and now they want to come back... THAT WILL NEVER EVER HAPPEN! and that is fair! more than 2 million Germans left Poland after WW2, when you loose a war, there are consequences

[Ivanshere]

...I said that Macedonians do not look like those Uzbekistanis. That Ljubco was probably a Macedonian who wanted to become Bulgarian (Im only 16 so I dont no the presidential line all that well). The same thing happened in 'northern greece' due to the bulgarian and greek propaganda - that is Macedonians in 'northern greece' reckon theyre greek or bulgarian.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS! There is a Vardaska Macedonia (wat u greeks call "FYROM"), Pirin Macedonia (now part of Bulgaria).....

[Ivanshere]

.....and there is also Aegean Macedonia which greece took from us during the Balkan Wars in 1913. Honestly I am half Vardaska and half Aegean Macedonian. I dont understand why greeks want to make this shit about us...

Any other bullshit u want me to comment on? BTW you spelt Athenians wrong u spelt it as "Atheneans" AND! athenians are fucking bisexuals so all greeks are different themselves - more gay-arabic blood in athenians, lesbosians and mykonosians I can see!

[VesuviusRecords]

Interesting.

[translationwiz]

and these disputes are over ancient issues? Someone sounds like he is a bit too arrogant over what happened, should and could not have been and who comes from what blood line. I am familiar with this ethnocentric psychic. It is toxic. And breeds hate and contempt for anyone and anything that isnt you and of you until...you are the only thing left. And since hate and denigration are the attitudes of practice in your life; you will hate yourself. You are cursed with self destruction. change NOW

[qoftar]

yes she came from mix between egyptian royal family and greek potlomy family.

[Ivanshere]

bull shit u fucking libyan!

[portugachica]

@qoftar THAT IS NOT TRUE SHE IS FULLY GREEK.

[vford43]

@portugachica Greek???? Now that's a stretch! LOL LOL LMAO LMAO please stop, LMAO

[portugachica]

@vford43 LAUGH AT UR SELF NIGGER.

[vford43]

@portugachica Uhhhhh looks like someones feelings are hurt. What a lonely soul. LMAO LMAO

[portugachica]

@vford43 NO U CAN NOT HURT MY FEELINGS NIGGER.GO FIND A LIFE.OR MAY BE U WANNA KILL URSELF BECAUSE U LOOK NOTHING LIKE A GODESS WHITE WOMAN.BATHETIC.

[vford43]

@portugachica Ummmm idiot you are the one sitting at your computer sending negative personal comments to people who don't agree with your twisted thinking. Yes, White Women are beautiful; EVERY WOMAN God created is beautiful:) Its clear to see you have mental issues. Of course your feelings are hurt because you feel you come from a superior race, which it is only one race: Human Race. If you don't like Niggers than stop sending me personal comments; remember you orginally contacted me.

[qoftar]

yes she came from mix between egyptian royal family and greek potlomy family.

[myrovlitis]

Nation ( lol ) 40% Albanians 4% Greeks and so on lol

[myrovlitis]

EVEN the name CLEOPATRA is pure Greek (same pure Greek as Alexandros, Filippos, Makedonia, Olympias, THessaloniki, Kaliopi, THis is a VERY good Example of Uneducated NATION, with NO history and no pride !! This is MONKEYDONIA an aggresive piece of Land who tryies to STEAL Greek History and Culture and LAND.

SLAVS appeared in our area at the 6th century after Christ! READ SOME EUROPEAN ( not Skopjian) HISTORY. FACE THE TRUTH

[Ivanshere]

FUCK YOU U GREEK CUNT!!

[vetdino]

If you are really Macedonian you will understand this: ΓΑΜΩ ΤΟ ΜΟΥΝΙ ΤΗΣ ΜΑΝΑΣ ΚΩΛΟΓΥΦΤΕ ΣΛΑΒΕ!!

[klemenestra]

hey greeks!if u are macedonians(as u say)change your name into western emacedonia,no more greece ok?if u make origin statistic of inhabitanse of greece u will find maybe 5 greeks,they all came from somewhere in the last 100 years.the greeks are in your isles.

[13alexander]

Hey brainwashed Slav WannaBeMacedonian, you are some of the Slavs hence you aren't Macedonians.

We are the Macedonians and our country is HELLAS-GREECE that includes Macedonia Sparta Athens Epirus and etc...What is you connection with Macedonia? Even your land at ancient years called Paionia and NOT Macedonia. Ancient Macedonia land is in GREECE

Macedonians are and were Greeks, only some of the Greeks are the Macedonians.

Slavs are not Greeks, Slavs you CANNOT be Macedonians

[Jovanfskmk]

I'm Macedonian, why i dont fell like greek if i am greek?

[souliot]

Jovanfskmk the reason you don't feel like you are Greek because you are not Greek and hence not Macedonian, You are a brainwashed Bulgarian in denial with a made up history. This video is about Cleopatra and the Ancient Greek Dorian group called Macedonians not the Former Yugo rejects of Skopje.

[GeoMind]

dangar234 you have 100% right!

[Galuadan]

Dont be stuped.The ptolemeans married only with Greeks.

[zaky2000]

Does that mean that Bush is German and Clinton is Irish. Cleopatra was Egyptian. Her ancestors 300 years before her time came to EGypt so what. She is Egyptian.

[HW50]

You are a bunch of clowns- all losers do this- pretend the notable characters of history were a member of their race despite all historical evidence. You can easily find a video like this where blacks insist Cleopatra was a black African. Yes and Jesus was white as well- Lol

Egyptians are Arabs ass wipes. Do you not learn basic history in moscow public schools?

[dangar234]

Cleopatra was a Greek Queen. Macedonians were and still are Greek. The Ptolemaic Dynasty spoke Greek, they had Greek names, their culture was Greek etc. This Dynasty was Greek by descent, language and culture. The modern FYROmian country who's people are Slavic, has nothing to do with ancient Macedonians. Cleopatra is GREEK for "Father-loving".

[TheArabPride]

where can i see the rest of this documentary?

[souliot]

Ill post the rest of this documentry up very soon, just subscribe to receive it ;)

[buddmar]

Queen Cleopatra VII Philapator was a Hellenistic Macedonian but she was the first of the Ptolemaic Dynasty to speak Egyptian fluently and honor the ancient religion and gods of Egypt, enhancing her popularity and support up and down the Nile Valley.

[ZaMakedonija]

Wrong, Anicent Macedonia was never a part of Anicent Greece.

[HellasCyprus]

ohh my godd u are so ignorant.. tell ur parents to tell their parents parents which are probably originally from Bulgaria to stop trying to steal Hellenic history .. please u are from FYROM not ancient macedonia , Ancient Macedonia is in Hellas(Greece)

[Onroper]

Macedonians were/are greeks so far. You see it in this vid and you´ll here and see it ever and ever again. There are so many proofs for this. Finaly you must accept it!

[highspeedsal]

sexy

[mpescatori]

That is true, Cleopatra was a Ptolemaic queen, she was of macedonian stick - but ancient macedonia was a region of ancient Greece, and had nothing to do with the modern slavic Republic of Macedonia... any more than New Guinea in the Pacific is related to Guinea in Africa.

[zhshsG7]

ΓΑΜΩ ΤΟ ΤΟΘΡΚΙΚΟ ΜΟΥΝΙ ΠΟΥ ΣΑΣ ΠΕΤΑΓΕ ΡΕΕΕ. ΚΛΕΨΤΕ ΚΙ ΑΛΛΩΝ ΛΑΩΝ ΤΗΝ ΙΣΤΟΡΙΑ

[souliot]

Macedonian Queen of Egypt :)