the author is over-reacting. While I agree that it does not belong in this bill, the creation of these "groups" is not necessarily bad. No where does it say they would be trained as soldiers with weapons, thus it would be a pretty poor army. I imagine they will be trained in things like first response and disaster management. Trained in first aid, organization etc. How useful would they have been in Louisiana? Haiti? The Gulf of Mexico? An "army" of trained paramedics seems prudent, no?
"National Emergency?" "Defense Force???" I thought that's what the active military, reserves and National Guard and existing civil police forces were for. Obama will create a "national emergency" in 2012, or piggyback on a minor one, then have his forces help him institute martial law and suspend elections. This preempts military and civil forces from directly disobeying his decree (too many 'innocent' lives lost with such a massive civil war). Obama is a Marxist and brings it here in 2012!!
I am not an Obama hater, and I am not a Bush hater. I am an American. All of you sheep who defend this bill just because you voted for Obama, or because you're a Democrat, or because you just hate Bush need to wake up. Who cares if this is about regular military, a special military, or a nazi-like military! Who cares! The bill is about healthcare. There should not be $1B+ for anything like this in this bill. That's the point.
I am not an Obama hater, and I am not a Bush hater. I am an American. All of you sheep who defend this bill just because you voted for Obama, or because you're a Democrat, or because you just hate Bush need to wake up. Who cares if this is about regular military, a special military, or a nazi-like military! Who cares! The bill is about healthcare. There should not be $1B+ for anything like this in this bill. That's the point.
Q: Did the new health care law give Obama a Nazi-like "private army" of 6,000 people?
A: No. Contrary to false Internet rumors, the new Ready Reserve Corps of doctors and other health workers will report to the surgeon general and be like the "ready reserves" in other uniformed services. They will be used during health emergencies.
@mcv47 I'm not going to try to explain the difference between fact and opinion. Factcheck has given unbiased information regarding both sides of the aisle. I am apparently outnumbered on this video, and I will not engage in any arguing. The only thing I will say is that if you would like to check the facts, you can, if you choose not to, that is your choice as well. I would just like to see everybody informed with facts instead of opinion when voting.
This is a VERY dangerous bill. "The Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President." This breaks with tradition and with the check & balance of needing the approval of the Senate, not to mention the tradition where the Military Services hold in-service promotion boards to recommend officers for general officer promotion to the President. This is a slippery slope indeed. This is a Dream Bill for an unscruplous would be dictator!
@AllanRasco At 2:09 it reads: "commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President w/ THE ADVICE AND CONSENT OF THE SENATE." Reserve Corp officers do not require senate consent. This is identical to Regular Army (RA), Navy & AF. My RA commission states I was appointed by the President w/ advice & consent of the Senate. Army Reserve officers are appointed by President w/o Senate consent. No "[unscrupulous] would be dictator" in spite of the manipulative video editing
This Bill is scary stuff! Note that the Bill says, "..commisioned officers shall be appointed(by the President) without regard to civil-service laws..." The whole purpose behind establishing civil service laws was to eliminate POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS in the employment process.
@AllanRasco That is the EXACT reading of every military commissioning - "w/o regard to civil-services law." Civil Service laws address tenure and other HR issues that don't apply to either the military or to the US Public Heath Service. This video editor REALLY suckered you all. Why don't you think FOX has exposed this by now? CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO IT. (or has FOX been bought off now?)
3) and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
2) laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
The reason Obama needs his own civilian army (Gestapo) - found in Declaration of Independence.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
If there were such resources in place why in Hell is there a need to include this additional hiring in this abomination and why would they specifically describe them as "similar to the uniformed service’s reserve program" in Section 5210 of the law. You apologists start and end your argument to opposition by saying, 'YOU ARE JUST RACIST HATERS!!!, demonstrating the intellectual depth of a pie plate.
@purelypatriotic: so much hate... Look, the USPHS IS a uniformed service, about 6000 strong. The US Surgeon General leads it. The Uniformed Services University currently trains 60 doctors (MDs) to serve as Army officers, 50 Navy, 50 AF, and TWO for the USPHS. It is a woofully underfunded service that the President was drawing attention to. Fund it, get rid of it, but DON'T confuse it with some private army serving the President. (You're entitled to your beliefs, but not your own facts)
@purelypatriotic My Racist accusation was addressed to @FishEaster who wrote: "Monkey version of the Brown Shirts and the SS and Waffen SS. In this case, Monkey Army will be armed with machetes and tires so monkeys can..." & "Here we go. We are fast approaching Monkey Takeover of America with Jews as the brains and the driving force behind it." Reads pure racism to me, but then I may be overreacting. The real facts of this highly edited video don't support this level of hatred.
@muarefl - Call me whatever you like, I was honorably discharged. You probably weren't. Let's look at your DD214. Anyway, where else on the planer are human still eating each other? Africa. Do YouTube search on Cannibalism. Then put the words, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Congo, and Pygmy. These monkeys still fight wars, and then eat their enemies after they killed them. MUAREFI, it's fine that you are a monkey lover, but get all the facts. That makes you a Zookeeper. Climb with your monkeys.
@FishEaster Ohh, it's so clear now! God made black people (I guess that's want you're refering to) so we could all be/feel superior. Darn, I wish I had had such wisdom earlier in my life and I wouldn't have wasted the previous 50 years.
What about the minute men... I'm in their court. Thats civilian, right? but I definitely want to know what that is for. Repubs in we will get those answers.
Oh come on! Were you ALL asleep in civics? Anabasis75 below TRIED to tell you: From the USPHS website: "The Office of the Surgeon General, under the direction of the Surgeon GENERAL, oversees the operations of the 6,500-member Commissioned Corps of the U.S. Public Health Service and provides support for the Surgeon General in the accomplishment of her other duties." It's part of the Office of the Asst Sec for Health in the Dept of Health and Human Services." Don't let facts interfere w/ur hate.
Outrageous! There is already such a force....it is known as "The National Guard". Why do we need another? Would the members be only Muslims....like the rest of Obama's appointees? Whirliejim
This socialist, marxist, communist is about change. the change that his backers George Soro's, Bill ayers and his socialist, communist friends from ACORN robbing the treasury to protect and line their own pockets.
Obama is a liar,
2 Cores in the private sector, thats why we have guns......to protect. Obama needs to be impeached and thrown out of office with his lying self.
@niaceo1 "I disagree with you but I'm pretty sure you're not a communist." That said, you are a MORON for not looking into this more - THE VIDEO IS A HOAX! Look up the US Public Health Service! It's been there for years and underfunded for years.
obama always lies.....except when he says he wants to spread the wealth, wish he was lying about that too. Socialism and the liberal mentality will be the death of America.
The private, for profit, Fed banksters control both parties and are collapsing the dollar on purpose. When we have bank holidays and a currency devaluation the US will look like Katrina/New Orleans nationwide. The banksters puppet manager Obama needs his own SS to oppress the People with Bush's Patriot Act.
When it all falls down, we will finally realize that the banksters were the real
terrorists. Don't be distracted by their paid minions like al CIAda.
BS!!! When the President says we can't depend on our military for our National Security, it is nothing more than a ploy to create his on personal goon squad.
Go back to sleep America and wake up in 1938 Germany. Your freedoms gone and your life worthless.
History does repeat itself and those that choose to ignore it will get the displeasure of reliving the Holocaust.
The national health service under the Surgeon General (a uniformed service under the Fed gov) has been around for years. They used to have dedicated hospitals run by this department. All he is doing is allowing federal doctors to flesh out this department again. The end goal is for cheap doctors to provide healthcare to people under the new program because regular dr's won't be doing it for what they will be paid under the new healthcare system. It's a cheap way to provide drs
Don't let this piece of out of context baloney rile you up. Look closer at the whole speech. Sad you guys. You want Obama to be the boogy-man, so you have someone to fight. But he is not. You are scary!!!
@kjaymoses Thanks. Wish I'd have read your note earlier. There's some really weird, hatefilled stuff here and not degree of logic or fact checking can influence them. Hope we don't cut funding to the Secret Service...
Monkey version of the Brown Shirts and the SS and Waffen SS. In this case, Monkey Army will be armed with machetes and tires so monkeys can do the "necklace" on the opponents - put the tires around the necks of their opponents, soak them with gasoline, and light them ablaze a la Monkeys of South Africa. Here we go. We are fast approaching Monkey Takeover of America with Jews as the brains and the driving force behind it.
@FishEaster "monkey army" Nice! ...and sick. You put down ALL that serve in Uniform, to include those in the USPHS. I served in the army for 20 years so you would have the freedom to put out this filth - but FishEater has gone too far. All of you hate mongers: Please get the fact BEFORE you all start shooting.
@muarefl - So what! You served in the Army. Big deal. I served in the USMC as an O grade. Yes, Monkey Army because the initiative is by a Monkey named Barack.
It's in the bill ! If the Republicans don't win in November what will we do? Two private army's under the direct control of the president. Are Food Stamps and Health Care worth this?
This should scare every American to death. This is what happens when the Progressive ideology is in control. This is what people mean when they tell you, your loosing your Liberty. There it is in black and white and still some people won’t believe it. God help us !
Bill Gates, and many others, openly announced that vaccines will be and are currently being used for slow-kill depopulation. Since these new branches of military are now part of “Hell's Care”, obviously “compliance” with the “demands” of this new “system” will be done by our own fanatically (see; history of China | see; psychology of fascism) militarized peers and by FORCE.
He is selling his fathers anti-colonial bullshit!!! He doesn't believe in American exceptionalism, which is how he got where he is.... How freekin' hyprocritical!!!
Hmmmmmmm, maybe that is why they passed the bill behind closed doors (not very transparent) and most admitted they had not read the bill (Pelosi You'll have to read the bill after it passes) This is no democracy folks.
the author is over-reacting. While I agree that it does not belong in this bill, the creation of these "groups" is not necessarily bad. No where does it say they would be trained as soldiers with weapons, thus it would be a pretty poor army. I imagine they will be trained in things like first response and disaster management. Trained in first aid, organization etc. How useful would they have been in Louisiana? Haiti? The Gulf of Mexico? An "army" of trained paramedics seems prudent, no?
WaySide66 7 months ago
"National Emergency?" "Defense Force???" I thought that's what the active military, reserves and National Guard and existing civil police forces were for. Obama will create a "national emergency" in 2012, or piggyback on a minor one, then have his forces help him institute martial law and suspend elections. This preempts military and civil forces from directly disobeying his decree (too many 'innocent' lives lost with such a massive civil war). Obama is a Marxist and brings it here in 2012!!
Ragnar06 1 year ago
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I am not an Obama hater, and I am not a Bush hater. I am an American. All of you sheep who defend this bill just because you voted for Obama, or because you're a Democrat, or because you just hate Bush need to wake up. Who cares if this is about regular military, a special military, or a nazi-like military! Who cares! The bill is about healthcare. There should not be $1B+ for anything like this in this bill. That's the point.
frankmny 1 year ago
I am not an Obama hater, and I am not a Bush hater. I am an American. All of you sheep who defend this bill just because you voted for Obama, or because you're a Democrat, or because you just hate Bush need to wake up. Who cares if this is about regular military, a special military, or a nazi-like military! Who cares! The bill is about healthcare. There should not be $1B+ for anything like this in this bill. That's the point.
frankmny 1 year ago 2
This is from factcheck(dot)org:
Q: Did the new health care law give Obama a Nazi-like "private army" of 6,000 people?
A: No. Contrary to false Internet rumors, the new Ready Reserve Corps of doctors and other health workers will report to the surgeon general and be like the "ready reserves" in other uniformed services. They will be used during health emergencies.
studyaid 1 year ago
@studyaid You trust factcheck? Any org that can trace back to ANY relationship with George Soros is suspect in my book.
mcv47 1 year ago
@mcv47 I'm not going to try to explain the difference between fact and opinion. Factcheck has given unbiased information regarding both sides of the aisle. I am apparently outnumbered on this video, and I will not engage in any arguing. The only thing I will say is that if you would like to check the facts, you can, if you choose not to, that is your choice as well. I would just like to see everybody informed with facts instead of opinion when voting.
studyaid 1 year ago
Look up "ready reserve corps" on factcheck (dot) org
studyaid 1 year ago
This is a VERY dangerous bill. "The Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President." This breaks with tradition and with the check & balance of needing the approval of the Senate, not to mention the tradition where the Military Services hold in-service promotion boards to recommend officers for general officer promotion to the President. This is a slippery slope indeed. This is a Dream Bill for an unscruplous would be dictator!
AllanRasco 1 year ago
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muarefl 1 year ago
@AllanRasco At 2:09 it reads: "commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President w/ THE ADVICE AND CONSENT OF THE SENATE." Reserve Corp officers do not require senate consent. This is identical to Regular Army (RA), Navy & AF. My RA commission states I was appointed by the President w/ advice & consent of the Senate. Army Reserve officers are appointed by President w/o Senate consent. No "[unscrupulous] would be dictator" in spite of the manipulative video editing
muarefl 1 year ago
This Bill is scary stuff! Note that the Bill says, "..commisioned officers shall be appointed(by the President) without regard to civil-service laws..." The whole purpose behind establishing civil service laws was to eliminate POLITICAL CONSIDERATIONS in the employment process.
AllanRasco 1 year ago
@AllanRasco That is the EXACT reading of every military commissioning - "w/o regard to civil-services law." Civil Service laws address tenure and other HR issues that don't apply to either the military or to the US Public Heath Service. This video editor REALLY suckered you all. Why don't you think FOX has exposed this by now? CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO IT. (or has FOX been bought off now?)
muarefl 1 year ago
3) and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
onycho1 1 year ago
2) laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;
onycho1 1 year ago
The reason Obama needs his own civilian army (Gestapo) - found in Declaration of Independence.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
onycho1 1 year ago
You braindead Liberal,
If there were such resources in place why in Hell is there a need to include this additional hiring in this abomination and why would they specifically describe them as "similar to the uniformed service’s reserve program" in Section 5210 of the law. You apologists start and end your argument to opposition by saying, 'YOU ARE JUST RACIST HATERS!!!, demonstrating the intellectual depth of a pie plate.
purelypatriotic 1 year ago 4
@purelypatriotic: so much hate... Look, the USPHS IS a uniformed service, about 6000 strong. The US Surgeon General leads it. The Uniformed Services University currently trains 60 doctors (MDs) to serve as Army officers, 50 Navy, 50 AF, and TWO for the USPHS. It is a woofully underfunded service that the President was drawing attention to. Fund it, get rid of it, but DON'T confuse it with some private army serving the President. (You're entitled to your beliefs, but not your own facts)
muarefl 1 year ago
@purelypatriotic My Racist accusation was addressed to @FishEaster who wrote: "Monkey version of the Brown Shirts and the SS and Waffen SS. In this case, Monkey Army will be armed with machetes and tires so monkeys can..." & "Here we go. We are fast approaching Monkey Takeover of America with Jews as the brains and the driving force behind it." Reads pure racism to me, but then I may be overreacting. The real facts of this highly edited video don't support this level of hatred.
muarefl 1 year ago
@muarefl - Call me whatever you like, I was honorably discharged. You probably weren't. Let's look at your DD214. Anyway, where else on the planer are human still eating each other? Africa. Do YouTube search on Cannibalism. Then put the words, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Congo, and Pygmy. These monkeys still fight wars, and then eat their enemies after they killed them. MUAREFI, it's fine that you are a monkey lover, but get all the facts. That makes you a Zookeeper. Climb with your monkeys.
FishEaster 1 year ago
@FishEaster Ohh, it's so clear now! God made black people (I guess that's want you're refering to) so we could all be/feel superior. Darn, I wish I had had such wisdom earlier in my life and I wouldn't have wasted the previous 50 years.
muarefl 1 year ago
What about the minute men... I'm in their court. Thats civilian, right? but I definitely want to know what that is for. Repubs in we will get those answers.
pipetoe 1 year ago
This video and most of the comments below are ABSURD! Wake up and read below:
muarefl 1 year ago
Oh come on! Were you ALL asleep in civics? Anabasis75 below TRIED to tell you: From the USPHS website: "The Office of the Surgeon General, under the direction of the Surgeon GENERAL, oversees the operations of the 6,500-member Commissioned Corps of the U.S. Public Health Service and provides support for the Surgeon General in the accomplishment of her other duties." It's part of the Office of the Asst Sec for Health in the Dept of Health and Human Services." Don't let facts interfere w/ur hate.
muarefl 1 year ago
Outrageous! There is already such a force....it is known as "The National Guard". Why do we need another? Would the members be only Muslims....like the rest of Obama's appointees? Whirliejim
TheWhirliejim 1 year ago
wow
MrDarinWarren 1 year ago
This socialist, marxist, communist is about change. the change that his backers George Soro's, Bill ayers and his socialist, communist friends from ACORN robbing the treasury to protect and line their own pockets.
Obama is a liar,
2 Cores in the private sector, thats why we have guns......to protect. Obama needs to be impeached and thrown out of office with his lying self.
niaceo1 1 year ago
@niaceo1 "I disagree with you but I'm pretty sure you're not a communist." That said, you are a MORON for not looking into this more - THE VIDEO IS A HOAX! Look up the US Public Health Service! It's been there for years and underfunded for years.
muarefl 1 year ago
obama always lies.....except when he says he wants to spread the wealth, wish he was lying about that too. Socialism and the liberal mentality will be the death of America.
rhgrafix 1 year ago
The private, for profit, Fed banksters control both parties and are collapsing the dollar on purpose. When we have bank holidays and a currency devaluation the US will look like Katrina/New Orleans nationwide. The banksters puppet manager Obama needs his own SS to oppress the People with Bush's Patriot Act.
When it all falls down, we will finally realize that the banksters were the real
terrorists. Don't be distracted by their paid minions like al CIAda.
truthbomb1 1 year ago
BS!!! When the President says we can't depend on our military for our National Security, it is nothing more than a ploy to create his on personal goon squad.
Go back to sleep America and wake up in 1938 Germany. Your freedoms gone and your life worthless.
History does repeat itself and those that choose to ignore it will get the displeasure of reliving the Holocaust.
Rancher444tx1 1 year ago
The national health service under the Surgeon General (a uniformed service under the Fed gov) has been around for years. They used to have dedicated hospitals run by this department. All he is doing is allowing federal doctors to flesh out this department again. The end goal is for cheap doctors to provide healthcare to people under the new program because regular dr's won't be doing it for what they will be paid under the new healthcare system. It's a cheap way to provide drs
Anabasis75 1 year ago
Don't let this piece of out of context baloney rile you up. Look closer at the whole speech. Sad you guys. You want Obama to be the boogy-man, so you have someone to fight. But he is not. You are scary!!!
kjaymoses 1 year ago
@kjaymoses Thanks. Wish I'd have read your note earlier. There's some really weird, hatefilled stuff here and not degree of logic or fact checking can influence them. Hope we don't cut funding to the Secret Service...
muarefl 1 year ago
Monkey version of the Brown Shirts and the SS and Waffen SS. In this case, Monkey Army will be armed with machetes and tires so monkeys can do the "necklace" on the opponents - put the tires around the necks of their opponents, soak them with gasoline, and light them ablaze a la Monkeys of South Africa. Here we go. We are fast approaching Monkey Takeover of America with Jews as the brains and the driving force behind it.
FishEaster 1 year ago
@FishEaster "monkey army" Nice! ...and sick. You put down ALL that serve in Uniform, to include those in the USPHS. I served in the army for 20 years so you would have the freedom to put out this filth - but FishEater has gone too far. All of you hate mongers: Please get the fact BEFORE you all start shooting.
muarefl 1 year ago
@muarefl - So what! You served in the Army. Big deal. I served in the USMC as an O grade. Yes, Monkey Army because the initiative is by a Monkey named Barack.
FishEaster 1 year ago
@FishEaster The USMC showed good judjement to run you out.
muarefl 1 year ago
Nice Job. See Also: "Obama Establishes Private Army 2010-03-27 "
watch?v=Xx_QGQXRmkE
majogaATP 1 year ago
It's in the bill ! If the Republicans don't win in November what will we do? Two private army's under the direct control of the president. Are Food Stamps and Health Care worth this?
This should scare every American to death. This is what happens when the Progressive ideology is in control. This is what people mean when they tell you, your loosing your Liberty. There it is in black and white and still some people won’t believe it. God help us !
Benny4658 1 year ago
We pleaded with Patty Murrary NOT to support a bill WHEN no one knew what was in it!
georgeutterpower 1 year ago
@georgeutterpower I wrote her abnd asked her not to pass it as well!! All she would do is say its great for america..now look
1Batt 1 year ago
What is the number of this bill? I tried searching and couldn't find the same document.
kathyo54 1 year ago
Bill Gates, and many others, openly announced that vaccines will be and are currently being used for slow-kill depopulation. Since these new branches of military are now part of “Hell's Care”, obviously “compliance” with the “demands” of this new “system” will be done by our own fanatically (see; history of China | see; psychology of fascism) militarized peers and by FORCE.
Wake up.
OdysseyArts 1 year ago 2
He is selling his fathers anti-colonial bullshit!!! He doesn't believe in American exceptionalism, which is how he got where he is.... How freekin' hyprocritical!!!
godaddict 1 year ago
Hmmmmmmm, maybe that is why they passed the bill behind closed doors (not very transparent) and most admitted they had not read the bill (Pelosi You'll have to read the bill after it passes) This is no democracy folks.
Goklayeh 1 year ago