@gerry9169 You can see the build by following the link in the desription. Like any big turbo install, it needs a fuel system and EMS to support it, appropriate intercooler, and a good tune. This engine is also bridgeported, and every part of the turbo system is custom including the intake manifold.
sorry but WTF is the point off running a 40mm turbo if your just going to be running 500 I mean 3075 will get you 500hp and alot cheaper IMO gt40 is to damn big fro street and is pointless i run gt35 and that even to big for the street when all i do is spin granite i swtiched some stuff a fab some things and i get amazing grip now but a gt40 to big
@lilballa8189 1st, the GT40R is an 88MM compressor. 2nd, I think you mean "3076" as there's no "3075". 3rd, turbo sizing on rotary engines is totally different than piston engines. A 3076 is a 300HP on a 13B. 4th, there's no way a 3076 is making 500HP on any engine. Not enough airflow (see compressor map). 5th, this 40R is at full boost by 4000RPM, meaning a 5000 RPM powerband. 6th, a GT35R is at best a 450HP turbo on a 13B, unless you run ridiculous boost levels. Questions? Or are you done?
@bigdv519 I think the last time I was at the track was August of this year. Best run of the night was 12.75 at whatever MPH. Keep in mind that is on a set of all season 215 series street tires, not some cheater slick or "street" tire. Just a quick burnout to clean off the tires and then I make the run. Next spring I finally plan to get a set of cheater slicks on there for some respectable numbers. Also I'll need a clutch that handles the power...My Kevlar clutch slips on quick shifts.
@bubbyj "Cheater slick" is a common term for DOT legal slicks, because they are "cheating" the DOT legal definition by conforming to the absolute minimum of tread definition, often with just a single groove down the center as a "tread". I'm just saying that I need to get a set, so I can put down some more respectable times for the power level.
@bubbyj Stock for my model is actually 185, but keep in mind it came from the factory with 146HP. The factory turbo (as well as some of the more upmarket NAs) came with 205s fron the factory. I should be able to fit 245s on my rims so that's likely what I'll do on the rears next season. Fine for the street then.
@aaroncake Wow 185? That's crazy. I'm runnin a RB25det/gt3071 in an s14. It dyno'd at 370rwhp and I'm running 245's. It still gets squirelly on the cold days but grips just fine as long as it is warm. I'm still learning to launch it but it will dip in the 11's with a good enough 60ft. Then again you have a hundred HP at the wheels more so I dunno if 245 would be enough. Could you fit bigger without cutting into the fenders or anything?
@bubbyj 255 is about the limit on the RX-7 before you start having to cut things. 245 all seasons will be fine on the rear for daily driving, certainly less crazy and easier to handle than the current 215s. Then i can switch to a larger stickier tire for track use.
@aaroncake the ZR1, Z06, Viper srt10 ACR, gumpert apollo, GT2 RS and the radical's used DOT competition tyres for the low 7 minute nurburgring times... whereas the nissan GTR and the lexus lfa were using potenza re070's ... most people dont understand exactly how much more grip these tyres can produce and how poor they are in all other conditions apart from warm and sunny..
@blahblop123 Since I daily drive the car, a set of Rs probably isn't ideal. But I really should increase the amount of rubber regardless. And then get some cheater slicks for the drag strip and a set of Rs for the autox and road course. And suddenly I have 3 sets of wheels in my garage...
@connertofu1 An old school Apex'I Twin Chamber. Nice and respectable, not screaming loud. Also adjusted a little tight so it doesn't "Psssshhh!" every time I close the throttle (seriously, there are bunch of SRT4s/Neons around here with BOVs so loose they vent 5 times just pulling into a parking space...how very stupid).
@hissy08 Oil is required to lubricate the bearings and also for cooling. Water is to cool the CHRA (center assembly). Older turbos were oil cooled only and thus suffered from oil sludging and coking problems if shut down hot. Newer turbos are also water cooled. Water continues to circulate after the engine has been shut down due to convection, so those turbos don't have the same thermal issues and are far more reliable and don't require special treatment.
@hissy08 It's my own exhaust. 3" SCH10 stainlesss downpipe to a 3" 0.065 stainless midpipe with a Vibrant 18" bottle resonator and 18" Ultra-Quiet stainless packed resonator. Splits to dual 2.5" stainless catback with two dual tip stainless DTM style mufflers.
@aaroncake its because they have small turbo's they spool very early in the rpm just by feathering the throttle... this is a very big turbo you need to mash your foot a more to make it spool... you only need 1500rpm or less to park, i dont think this spools enough at 1500rpm
@xr6bat It's bridged. The ASE dumps a lot of fuel into the engine during the first 20 or so seconds after startup which greatly smooths out the idle. Check the link in the description for a full writeup of the build, including the porting.
How is that metalcast paint holding up to the temps? I want to paint my turbo housing, but they dont make the hi temp paints in any colors that I like
you have to let the engine runnung when the turbo has rpm's because when u start it again there will be no oil so the rings inside the turbo will be easier to overheat and lose their strength
Do you have a write-up on 7club on boosting the 6-port? I'm going to be rebuilding an 88 GXL NA soon and would like to go turbo. I'm aware of what it takes but how did you make it work on the 6port?
@GranTurismoJunky Just look in the 2nd gen FAQ. Or, Google my name. There's plenty of documentation out there, as well as the full build of this car (URL is in the video description).
people pull your head out of your ass for once rotary engines are deadly they create alot of power they match big block v8s espically those 4 rotor engines i love v8s but rotary is very impressive dude nice engine
@TransAmFTW i always admired rotarys, a friend of mine had one in his buggy, it seemed to me like they went through a turbo everytime they took it to the dunes, then one day they blew the motor, and replaced it with a ls7, now that buggy is a beast.
@xyzdorky66 Sounds like they had some major lubrication issues, or were using China turbos. I find that in my (fairly considerable) rotary experience, problems are rarely caused by the engines themselves. They are caused by people who just don't know how to mod them properly, or those who cut corners. Piston engines are just more tolerant of mistakes and let's face it, the stuff most people build (not saying your friend is included) is crap.
@aaroncake i never saw the rotary myself, but it seems to me like they had to be cheap turbos, cause each time they went out they brought along three spares and replaced at least one each time. and that would get expensive
and most stuff people build is crap, everytime i see a motor blow on youtube i think the person deserved it for cutting corners
when i start modding my trans am ill spend more money on making sure the engine and tranny can handle the power then spending on the power itself
@xyzdorky66 That's the way to do it. Lay down the foundation, spend money in the right places. That's the way to reliable power no matter what you're building.
@aaroncake lol how does a twin turbo ls3 sound? one large turbo and a smaller one to spool the other, and before i turbo charge the motor i wanna get atleast 550 hp out of the ls3
also i was watching your rotary engine rebuild nice work!
@xyzdorky66 It sounds kind of complicated. Why not just two reasonably sized turbos? You'd really not have an issue getting 800+ HP out of it with zero lag using, say, two GT3071s.
@xyzdorky66 The turbos are about $1300 each. I figure it would cost about $2500 to have manifolds fabricated to mount them. But then there's all the other stuff like wastegates, plumbing, BOV, fuel system, EMS, engine build, etc. I doubt it would be a very cheap project.
@xyzdorky66 Most forced induction projects are pretty expensive, even more so when you need to double up on every component for a V8. If you can fabricate, you're into it for just the materials and saving a considerable amount on labour.
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How many rats are running on the wheel inside it. Hahahahaha still only a buzz box. There's Noooo comparison to raw V8 big block supercharged power...........
@tanya290 Runs low 12s on 215 street tires. Also stops on a dime, handles like it's on rails, weighs in at around 2700 LBs, goes sideways in every gear, makes 500HP at the wheels, and is driven almost daily. Keep your V8. If I wanted a V8 I'd buy a truck.
Hahaha yeh v8's are agricultural, it might churp the wheels in first gear lol, nice bay mate looks mint bet she goes like a rocket, watch out for those v8's tho mate they'll smoke ya.. lol!
@mageac I'm not familiar with the whole LS product line, but which stock LS7 makes approximately ~560HP at the flywheel to end up with about 500 HP at the rear wheels? Well, I just Googled and a 427 LS7 making 505 flywheel HP is $14,000! I can build a 500HP 13B for $5000 and not have to deal with the hassle of swapping in a different engine. And I'd wager an LS7 weighs a bit more than a 13B, so there may be placement issues to maintain the 50/50 weight distribution.
@aaroncake the ls7 weighs about 50 pounds more... you can get them for quite a bit cheaper then gm offers them, by the time its installed it will need custom tuning and exhaust anyways that will add about 50 hp...
plus the ls7 at 550 hp is not stressed, its at basically its stock power level.
theirs a reason ls engine swaps are becoming quite common
ive also looked up the cost of a 500 hp 13b crate engine, its over 13,000...
seriously research some of the ls swapped rxs, miatias, s2000s etc
@aaroncake Kudos. Who the fuck would want to swap a 13b out of an RX7...the ONLY swap i would do is for a 20b, and even then u still lose that wieght balance. 1.3L and 500+ hp is what im talking about, not to mention perfect 50/50 balance and super light weight. If you dont want rotary, Stay the fuck away from the RX7!
@aaroncake The Lsx motors are actually lighter because they are made of aluminum vs the 13b's cast iron. The weight distribution actually gets better. In addition, GM has made LS motors for years and they can be found/rebuilt for pretty cheap. I love the 13b, but if given the option, the LS is a better motor for the car in my opinion.
@Kinx98x 13Bs are a combination of cast iron and aluminum. No way an LS7 is lighter. Google says the shipping weight of an LS7 is 500 LBs. My 13B complete with turbo, manifolds and accessories is substantially less than 400 LBs. How can an engine that is longer and heavier result in better weight distribution? If someone wants to put a V8 into their RX-7, then more power to them. But to the people who troll me on YouTube saying my engine has rats in it, I'm not going to show them much respect.
@tanya290 lol superchargers are terrible at getting power, if you really want a v8 to show its true potential throw on a twin turbo kit and youll get 1000 hp instead of the pussy 500-600 hp youd get from a sc.
to me any motor is good as long as you can get power out of it,
@unexpectedninja4 10 years. The first version used the stock HT-18 and manifold on a custom spacer to fit with full NA intake manifolds. Ran that for about a year, then pulled the engine for porting and to build what is shown in this video. Check out the URL in the description for a full writeup (over 700 pictures!) of the process of building this car.
See how your turbo sounds like a marble rattling inside a tin can on shut down? that will get worse gradually and eventually (see: sooner than expected) die. Well done.
@ajkulish The 2.5" piping I used is plenty of flow. Going to three inch would just make it hard to run and increase the volume that the turbo needs to pressurize, resulting in boost lag. There would be no gain.
@aaroncake are you sure? i have 2.5 inch tubing on my supercharger and its only running 4 psi. with the size turbo you are running i dont see why 2.75 would not be beneficial
For anyone concerned about the lubrication of the turbo after engine shutdown. There are devices that hold an amount of oil in a cilindrical canister under pressure which is build up obviously by the oil pressure from the engine or seperate oilpump. After you shutdown the engine, this will give you about 2 more minutes of oil pressure, which gives the turbo time to come to a halt and cool down a bit more.
omg, dont shut down directly after cranking.... turbo needs oil pressure to run smooth... shut down, no oil.... not soo bad this time cause it wasnt very hot or glowing but dont do this after a long ride dude!
I've thought long and hard about this and im fairly sure that everybody just needs to chill the *u*k out. Watch the video and continue living your life!
well, with modern turbo's as previously mentioned in comments here it isn't really necessary to provide oil for cooling on spool down as its just free spinning. The cool down period is not only just for the turbo, its for the whole engine. You want to try and cool it down from extreme temperatures first so that hot spots don't develop in the engine and oil doesn't burn in the turbo heat. So idling it till the thermo fans cycle out is all you need if your worried about needing a turbo timer.
Wow aaroncake... I remember visiting your site all the time a few years back for the circuitry projects and potato gun ideas. I knew you were an RX-7 enthusiast, but never would have expected to just stumble upon your youtube channel after searching for turbo'd cars! Small world.
@rideredRC51 The red candy is DuploColor MetalCast applied over polished metal (or on the intake manifold, a silver metal flake). The black is just VHT Caliper Enamel.
@pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR I've answered it a bunch of times but yes, that's what a turbo timer is theoretically for. It allows you to exit the vehicle (with the key) while the engine runs to cool down the turbo. It may have a simple time selection, or an automatic timer based on how the vehicle was driven. But turbo timers aren't necessary with modern water-cooled turbos.
@aaroncake I'm not trying to argue or bring up something youve mentioned 100 times, but isnt a turbo timer actually to keep oil flowing through the bearing of the turbo until it is properly slowed down enough that remaining oil would be enough to last until it quits spinning? I know oil was used to cool turbos in the past but now its just mainly oil feed until the impeller slows down enough isnt it?
@mathewdylang Correct. A turbo timer keeps the engine running, and thus the oil flowing, for a few minutes to cool down a hot oil-cooled turbo. Most journal bearing turbos only spin for a few seconds after the engine is shut off, and with ball bearings the load is so light anyway it doesn't matter. Turbo timers are really only needed if the car was just beaten on severely and then parked and even then, mostly with oil-cooled only turbos (old, old technology).
@aaroncake My GT4094 (old style without the surge ports) spins for damn near a minute and a half after shut off... When I watched it the first time I was like WTF? My friends thought it was BB but alas it is just the journal bearing type/oil cooled. Spools quick too.
@aaroncake I don't even know what turbo I have. My friend just picked it for me he just told me to install it in my S13. It's an RB25 though. I connected some hose to the oil pan (drilled a hole for it). That's oil cooled turbo? Do I need a timer for it? I just started getting into turbos lately. Can't help but smile when hearing that BOV going off.
@pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR If you didn't connect any water lines, then it is an oil cooled turbo. In general you are probably fine without a turbo timer, unless you have a habit of driving the car hard and then parking it right after. Even after hard driving there are usually a few minutes of easy driving before the engine is shut off but there are times, like at the track, where this doesn't happen.
@aaroncake Well I usually park, rev it spooling the turbo just to hear the BOV one last time before I shut it off. I do highrev it half the time after stopping (like at a stop sign, after red light, etc) and gunning it in highway at times (following the speed limit usually but when someone tries to aggravate me, like tailgaiting me, I "race" that person until they stop). Not all the time though. So I do need it?
@pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR Really all you need to do is let the engine run a little while after you've revved it before shutting off. Just do your rev, then do things like close the windows, take off your seat belt, grab your luggage, etc. then shut off the engine. A turbo timer would only be useful if you wanted to leave the car when parking it right after running the engine at high load for enough time to actually build some heat. So in general, I'd say that no, you don't need one.
@aaroncake That's fair. I mean I don't need to leave right away. I have unharness myself, remove my steering wheel, switch off my kill switch, lock my clutch and make sure all doors are close. I live in New York and thieves are everywhere specially Honda Boys. I have to be extra careful. So far I've spent at least $6,000 for the past 2 years on this car. I'm even in process of buying boots for this. It's enough time for me to cool down the turbo. Well anyways thanks for your time and advice bro!
@aaroncake It's a dog eat dog city. Thieves will try anything they can, even watch you for months just to wait for that moment you make a mistake not securing your ride right, they'll smash windows and steal the whole car by pushing it. I actually seen one literally towing the whole car by backing up to it and driving off. Gone in less than 2 sec. Thinking about it, yeah I really don't need a turbo timer lol I need that time to make sure my car's locked up securely
@123davidhunt By employing my douchebag to English translator, I was able to deduce that your comment reads "Novice, you should install an air filter lest foreign objects enter the inducer". Well, to answer your concern expressed so eloquently, have you considered that I just removed the filter temporarily to shoot this video?
@aaroncake Can you PLEASE send me the link to that translator? I can't understand 98% of the fuckwaddery posted on the internet. I have a brain, and functional reading and writing skills, so I often feel totally left out.
Also, calm down back seat tuners. It's a ball bearing turbo (which requires oil FLOW, not oil pressure) and it's no longer under load. It's almost guaranteed he's using synthetic oil, which doesn't suffer from coking like conventional oil. Take a breath, it's going to be ok.
@rayvdub Mate, there is a reason with a turboed vehicle that you wait at least 1-3 minutes before turning the car off, so that the turbo can spool down.
DON'T do it and after a couple of short bursts its very easy to have the turbo either seize or even completley explode.
@Ravigar Only on ancient oil cooled turbos. Modern water cooled ball bearing turbos don't need any sort of cooldown period unless driven hard. And if I were to drive this car hard enough on the street to warrant a turbo cooldown period, I'd be in prison before I got home. :-) Oil technology has also improved a lot since the 70s where many of these myths come from.
nice. i am going to get an invisible airfilter for my car too.
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gvdpyr123 1 week ago
Hoooly mother is that your kitchen table cause you can eat out of that engine bay =D
00gtr34 2 weeks ago
I got an '88 patrol that runs 19psi and 4000rpm, you can beat japanese cars!
Sweet ride btw, REALLY nice looking engine bay, very nice job, i bet she fly's!
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RomKOo1993 3 weeks ago
other than the turbo what else did you need to get to keep up with it?
gerry9169 1 month ago
@gerry9169 You can see the build by following the link in the desription. Like any big turbo install, it needs a fuel system and EMS to support it, appropriate intercooler, and a good tune. This engine is also bridgeported, and every part of the turbo system is custom including the intake manifold.
aaroncake 1 month ago
sorry but WTF is the point off running a 40mm turbo if your just going to be running 500 I mean 3075 will get you 500hp and alot cheaper IMO gt40 is to damn big fro street and is pointless i run gt35 and that even to big for the street when all i do is spin granite i swtiched some stuff a fab some things and i get amazing grip now but a gt40 to big
lilballa8189 1 month ago
@lilballa8189 1st, the GT40R is an 88MM compressor. 2nd, I think you mean "3076" as there's no "3075". 3rd, turbo sizing on rotary engines is totally different than piston engines. A 3076 is a 300HP on a 13B. 4th, there's no way a 3076 is making 500HP on any engine. Not enough airflow (see compressor map). 5th, this 40R is at full boost by 4000RPM, meaning a 5000 RPM powerband. 6th, a GT35R is at best a 450HP turbo on a 13B, unless you run ridiculous boost levels. Questions? Or are you done?
aaroncake 1 month ago
@lilballa8189 i have a 2 year old child with better grammar than you
mahhh57 1 month ago
All my friends are dead.. oh, i ment, all your part's are red..
HaxoReSc 1 month ago
kurwa co za konewka z tej turbinki :)
olimbh 1 month ago
500rwhp and running low 12's? When was the last time you ran it?
bigdv519 1 month ago
@bigdv519 I think the last time I was at the track was August of this year. Best run of the night was 12.75 at whatever MPH. Keep in mind that is on a set of all season 215 series street tires, not some cheater slick or "street" tire. Just a quick burnout to clean off the tires and then I make the run. Next spring I finally plan to get a set of cheater slicks on there for some respectable numbers. Also I'll need a clutch that handles the power...My Kevlar clutch slips on quick shifts.
aaroncake 1 month ago
@aaroncake Wait...are you saying bigger than 215 is a cheater tire? I'm confused. Run wider tires.....how is that cheating....
bubbyj 1 month ago
@bubbyj "Cheater slick" is a common term for DOT legal slicks, because they are "cheating" the DOT legal definition by conforming to the absolute minimum of tread definition, often with just a single groove down the center as a "tread". I'm just saying that I need to get a set, so I can put down some more respectable times for the power level.
aaroncake 1 month ago
@aaroncake So are 215's stock? That is just so thin. I'd imagine it spun tires easily even before any mod's.
bubbyj 1 month ago
@bubbyj Stock for my model is actually 185, but keep in mind it came from the factory with 146HP. The factory turbo (as well as some of the more upmarket NAs) came with 205s fron the factory. I should be able to fit 245s on my rims so that's likely what I'll do on the rears next season. Fine for the street then.
aaroncake 1 month ago
@aaroncake Wow 185? That's crazy. I'm runnin a RB25det/gt3071 in an s14. It dyno'd at 370rwhp and I'm running 245's. It still gets squirelly on the cold days but grips just fine as long as it is warm. I'm still learning to launch it but it will dip in the 11's with a good enough 60ft. Then again you have a hundred HP at the wheels more so I dunno if 245 would be enough. Could you fit bigger without cutting into the fenders or anything?
bubbyj 1 month ago
@bubbyj 255 is about the limit on the RX-7 before you start having to cut things. 245 all seasons will be fine on the rear for daily driving, certainly less crazy and easier to handle than the current 215s. Then i can switch to a larger stickier tire for track use.
aaroncake 1 month ago
@aaroncake the ZR1, Z06, Viper srt10 ACR, gumpert apollo, GT2 RS and the radical's used DOT competition tyres for the low 7 minute nurburgring times... whereas the nissan GTR and the lexus lfa were using potenza re070's ... most people dont understand exactly how much more grip these tyres can produce and how poor they are in all other conditions apart from warm and sunny..
blahblop123 1 month ago
@blahblop123 Since I daily drive the car, a set of Rs probably isn't ideal. But I really should increase the amount of rubber regardless. And then get some cheater slicks for the drag strip and a set of Rs for the autox and road course. And suddenly I have 3 sets of wheels in my garage...
aaroncake 1 month ago
red all i see is red!!!!! and you missed a couple spots omg my heads gonna explode!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
mmmmtastyful 1 month ago
Very nice
ArchLITE0 2 months ago
WoW...!!!!!!!!!!!! :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MaRiOs121211 3 months ago
are you using a blow off valve?
if so what kind
connertofu1 3 months ago
@connertofu1 An old school Apex'I Twin Chamber. Nice and respectable, not screaming loud. Also adjusted a little tight so it doesn't "Psssshhh!" every time I close the throttle (seriously, there are bunch of SRT4s/Neons around here with BOVs so loose they vent 5 times just pulling into a parking space...how very stupid).
aaroncake 3 months ago 11
@aaroncake why does a turbo need an oil line and water line
hissy08 2 months ago
@hissy08 Oil is required to lubricate the bearings and also for cooling. Water is to cool the CHRA (center assembly). Older turbos were oil cooled only and thus suffered from oil sludging and coking problems if shut down hot. Newer turbos are also water cooled. Water continues to circulate after the engine has been shut down due to convection, so those turbos don't have the same thermal issues and are far more reliable and don't require special treatment.
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hissy08 2 months ago
@aaroncake thanks and I love the rx7 ,what exhaust does it have?
hissy08 2 months ago
@hissy08 It's my own exhaust. 3" SCH10 stainlesss downpipe to a 3" 0.065 stainless midpipe with a Vibrant 18" bottle resonator and 18" Ultra-Quiet stainless packed resonator. Splits to dual 2.5" stainless catback with two dual tip stainless DTM style mufflers.
aaroncake 2 months ago
@aaroncake its because they have small turbo's they spool very early in the rpm just by feathering the throttle... this is a very big turbo you need to mash your foot a more to make it spool... you only need 1500rpm or less to park, i dont think this spools enough at 1500rpm
blahblop123 1 month ago
need more red
TheNitBand18 3 months ago
ball bearing turbos rock
LosMt2 3 months ago
sounds like an extend port not bridge port!
xr6bat 3 months ago
@xr6bat It's bridged. The ASE dumps a lot of fuel into the engine during the first 20 or so seconds after startup which greatly smooths out the idle. Check the link in the description for a full writeup of the build, including the porting.
aaroncake 3 months ago
omg, you have no idea how bad i want your car now....
alexrascon1 3 months ago
@alexrascon1 Grab a welder and make your own! :-)
aaroncake 3 months ago
@aaroncake I would but I'm only in highschool XD
alexrascon1 3 months ago
beutiful.
aviadts1978 3 months ago
Red.
fangus503 3 months ago
How is that metalcast paint holding up to the temps? I want to paint my turbo housing, but they dont make the hi temp paints in any colors that I like
simonnoitalay 3 months ago
@simonnoitalay It's holding up fine. There has been some fading in extremely high heat areas but it is unnoticeable unless you are looking for it.
aaroncake 3 months ago
Sweet bearings. My turbo stops like someone jammed a rock in it once I turn the motor off
thefronge 3 months ago
great no oil pressure to bearings lol
TheBadger38 3 months ago
holy fuck! :o that is the cleanest and sexiest engine i have EVER seen lmao looks like your wife did a good job lmao jk :P
nathandaignault 3 months ago
@pinkpanthercow hey your ugly.
pacman0923 3 months ago
i think thats probably the coolest 51 second video i've seen.,
BradRizzle7780 3 months ago
REV MOAR!!!
I love it!
SYSPLUCK 3 months ago
hey thats ugly,
pinkpanthercow 3 months ago
you have to let the engine runnung when the turbo has rpm's because when u start it again there will be no oil so the rings inside the turbo will be easier to overheat and lose their strength
geo6642 3 months ago
Do you have a write-up on 7club on boosting the 6-port? I'm going to be rebuilding an 88 GXL NA soon and would like to go turbo. I'm aware of what it takes but how did you make it work on the 6port?
GranTurismoJunky 3 months ago
@GranTurismoJunky Just look in the 2nd gen FAQ. Or, Google my name. There's plenty of documentation out there, as well as the full build of this car (URL is in the video description).
aaroncake 3 months ago
I know its old, but.:
Hey look, teres a turbo with a engine on.
fisch5321 3 months ago
now thats a sexual lookin engine lol
ImprezaWRX83 3 months ago
did someone seriously mention GM? LOL
flyingcows547 3 months ago
people pull your head out of your ass for once rotary engines are deadly they create alot of power they match big block v8s espically those 4 rotor engines i love v8s but rotary is very impressive dude nice engine
TransAmFTW 4 months ago
@TransAmFTW i always admired rotarys, a friend of mine had one in his buggy, it seemed to me like they went through a turbo everytime they took it to the dunes, then one day they blew the motor, and replaced it with a ls7, now that buggy is a beast.
but im more of a v8 kinda person haha
xyzdorky66 3 months ago
@xyzdorky66 Sounds like they had some major lubrication issues, or were using China turbos. I find that in my (fairly considerable) rotary experience, problems are rarely caused by the engines themselves. They are caused by people who just don't know how to mod them properly, or those who cut corners. Piston engines are just more tolerant of mistakes and let's face it, the stuff most people build (not saying your friend is included) is crap.
aaroncake 3 months ago
@aaroncake i never saw the rotary myself, but it seems to me like they had to be cheap turbos, cause each time they went out they brought along three spares and replaced at least one each time. and that would get expensive
and most stuff people build is crap, everytime i see a motor blow on youtube i think the person deserved it for cutting corners
when i start modding my trans am ill spend more money on making sure the engine and tranny can handle the power then spending on the power itself
xyzdorky66 3 months ago
@xyzdorky66 That's the way to do it. Lay down the foundation, spend money in the right places. That's the way to reliable power no matter what you're building.
aaroncake 3 months ago
@aaroncake lol how does a twin turbo ls3 sound? one large turbo and a smaller one to spool the other, and before i turbo charge the motor i wanna get atleast 550 hp out of the ls3
also i was watching your rotary engine rebuild nice work!
xyzdorky66 3 months ago
@xyzdorky66 It sounds kind of complicated. Why not just two reasonably sized turbos? You'd really not have an issue getting 800+ HP out of it with zero lag using, say, two GT3071s.
aaroncake 3 months ago
@aaroncake how much do you suppose those are? just the turbos, and how much would they be for a twin turbo kit plus installation?
if i want that ls3 its gonna cost me 6k
xyzdorky66 3 months ago
@xyzdorky66 The turbos are about $1300 each. I figure it would cost about $2500 to have manifolds fabricated to mount them. But then there's all the other stuff like wastegates, plumbing, BOV, fuel system, EMS, engine build, etc. I doubt it would be a very cheap project.
aaroncake 3 months ago
@aaroncake your scaring me away from my own car haha,
might as well by a 93 civic eg hatch with a b18 turbo instead of buying a new turbo kit for my car
xyzdorky66 3 months ago
@xyzdorky66 Most forced induction projects are pretty expensive, even more so when you need to double up on every component for a V8. If you can fabricate, you're into it for just the materials and saving a considerable amount on labour.
aaroncake 3 months ago
simply amazing...not many people are smarter than the Japs when it comes to cars, loving it...JDM AS FVCK
FearTheFutureXXVII 4 months ago
ROOOOOOTAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
buddyred13 4 months ago
duhhhh pretty colours
dirtygreenbasterd 4 months ago
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How many rats are running on the wheel inside it. Hahahahaha still only a buzz box. There's Noooo comparison to raw V8 big block supercharged power...........
tanya290 4 months ago
@tanya290 Runs low 12s on 215 street tires. Also stops on a dime, handles like it's on rails, weighs in at around 2700 LBs, goes sideways in every gear, makes 500HP at the wheels, and is driven almost daily. Keep your V8. If I wanted a V8 I'd buy a truck.
aaroncake 4 months ago 46
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Hahaha yeh v8's are agricultural, it might churp the wheels in first gear lol, nice bay mate looks mint bet she goes like a rocket, watch out for those v8's tho mate they'll smoke ya.. lol!
DardeeChar 4 months ago
@aaroncake so it has the same performance as a stock ls7 swapped rx...
mageac 4 months ago
@mageac I'm not familiar with the whole LS product line, but which stock LS7 makes approximately ~560HP at the flywheel to end up with about 500 HP at the rear wheels? Well, I just Googled and a 427 LS7 making 505 flywheel HP is $14,000! I can build a 500HP 13B for $5000 and not have to deal with the hassle of swapping in a different engine. And I'd wager an LS7 weighs a bit more than a 13B, so there may be placement issues to maintain the 50/50 weight distribution.
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@aaroncake the ls7 weighs about 50 pounds more... you can get them for quite a bit cheaper then gm offers them, by the time its installed it will need custom tuning and exhaust anyways that will add about 50 hp...
plus the ls7 at 550 hp is not stressed, its at basically its stock power level.
theirs a reason ls engine swaps are becoming quite common
ive also looked up the cost of a 500 hp 13b crate engine, its over 13,000...
seriously research some of the ls swapped rxs, miatias, s2000s etc
mageac 4 months ago
@aaroncake Kudos. Who the fuck would want to swap a 13b out of an RX7...the ONLY swap i would do is for a 20b, and even then u still lose that wieght balance. 1.3L and 500+ hp is what im talking about, not to mention perfect 50/50 balance and super light weight. If you dont want rotary, Stay the fuck away from the RX7!
pumpitdown0x 4 months ago
@pumpitdown0x you're comment says it all. Rotary power all dayy baby
Gyzmoeeee 4 months ago
@aaroncake And power/weight ratio is everything. xD
Shorty15c4007 4 months ago
@aaroncake The Lsx motors are actually lighter because they are made of aluminum vs the 13b's cast iron. The weight distribution actually gets better. In addition, GM has made LS motors for years and they can be found/rebuilt for pretty cheap. I love the 13b, but if given the option, the LS is a better motor for the car in my opinion.
Kinx98x 4 months ago
@Kinx98x 13Bs are a combination of cast iron and aluminum. No way an LS7 is lighter. Google says the shipping weight of an LS7 is 500 LBs. My 13B complete with turbo, manifolds and accessories is substantially less than 400 LBs. How can an engine that is longer and heavier result in better weight distribution? If someone wants to put a V8 into their RX-7, then more power to them. But to the people who troll me on YouTube saying my engine has rats in it, I'm not going to show them much respect.
aaroncake 4 months ago 2
@tanya290 Stop having sex with your children you fucking redneck
bigbueno2 4 months ago
@tanya290 lol superchargers are terrible at getting power, if you really want a v8 to show its true potential throw on a twin turbo kit and youll get 1000 hp instead of the pussy 500-600 hp youd get from a sc.
to me any motor is good as long as you can get power out of it,
rotaries are no difference
xyzdorky66 3 months ago
holy ball bearings!
defkon99 4 months ago
Too much paint in the engine for my taste.
suzuki400boi 4 months ago
Over four years later and this is still one of my favorite videos ever.
F3Ibane 4 months ago
i think it needs more red.
dgk209mda 4 months ago
i hope you used heatproof paint like my rocker cover look above^^^^^^
bhamdriver 4 months ago
OMFG.. thats a big ass turbo
dorsett45 4 months ago
That's just straight sexy :D
darkrashan 4 months ago
its nice to know about how long the turbo keeps spinning after the engine is shut off
my turbo is an oil bearing not a ball bearing and i always run the car 2 minutes after a good drive
seems 30 seconds and its done spinning
dragonheart0313 4 months ago
that engine looks amazing
beaky1706 4 months ago
Very nice and clean engine bro, how long have you had the engine boosted?
unexpectedninja4 5 months ago 3
@unexpectedninja4 10 years. The first version used the stock HT-18 and manifold on a custom spacer to fit with full NA intake manifolds. Ran that for about a year, then pulled the engine for porting and to build what is shown in this video. Check out the URL in the description for a full writeup (over 700 pictures!) of the process of building this car.
aaroncake 5 months ago
See how your turbo sounds like a marble rattling inside a tin can on shut down? that will get worse gradually and eventually (see: sooner than expected) die. Well done.
amazing1racist 4 months ago
@amazing1racist All Garrett ball bearing turbos sound like that. Video posted 4 years ago. Car still daily driven on the same turbo. 500 RWHP.
aaroncake 4 months ago 14
@aaroncake Get you some boss!
aaron2414 4 months ago
@amazing1racist haha rrrrriiiiiiiippppped
StickGuy0000000001 4 months ago
with red
joanou94 5 months ago
you raped that car!! xD
joanou94 5 months ago
you need larger diameter piping. things breathing through a straw
ajkulish 5 months ago
@ajkulish The 2.5" piping I used is plenty of flow. Going to three inch would just make it hard to run and increase the volume that the turbo needs to pressurize, resulting in boost lag. There would be no gain.
aaroncake 5 months ago
@aaroncake are you sure? i have 2.5 inch tubing on my supercharger and its only running 4 psi. with the size turbo you are running i dont see why 2.75 would not be beneficial
ajkulish 4 months ago
You need a turbo timer
XXX561561561XXX 5 months ago
@XXX561561561XXX CTRL-F and type "turbo timer". Read.
aaroncake 5 months ago
@aaroncake Why? I know what a turbo timer is
XXX561561561XXX 5 months ago
@XXX561561561XXX So that you can see all the other comments regarding turbo timers that I've already addressed.
aaroncake 5 months ago
Numbers?
ThatOneKidThatSkis 5 months ago
@ThatOneKidThatSkis A little over 400HP on the daily boost setting (13 PSI), a little over 500HP at 16 PSI.
aaroncake 5 months ago
PHAT
IcePickSnowmanzzzz 5 months ago
Tht's SEXED
GTAROKS 5 months ago
put your finger in there!
91cannibal 5 months ago
STOP SPOOLLING ALREADY!
ekayforlife 5 months ago
what a pretty motor, my wife loves the color assortment lol
diamondrio21 5 months ago
put your finger in the silver hole
jpowers94 5 months ago 3
For anyone concerned about the lubrication of the turbo after engine shutdown. There are devices that hold an amount of oil in a cilindrical canister under pressure which is build up obviously by the oil pressure from the engine or seperate oilpump. After you shutdown the engine, this will give you about 2 more minutes of oil pressure, which gives the turbo time to come to a halt and cool down a bit more.
MrHemi427 5 months ago
omg, dont shut down directly after cranking.... turbo needs oil pressure to run smooth... shut down, no oil.... not soo bad this time cause it wasnt very hot or glowing but dont do this after a long ride dude!
sorry for bad english... im from germany
DivisionCT 5 months ago
ur fat
pare4life 5 months ago
28 seconds..... Impressive
ImportLegends16 5 months ago
you have got a gangsta turbo g
Rockpod1 5 months ago
Red goes faster.
Silvadragon 5 months ago
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DivineWindSerpent 5 months ago
turbo timer
MsCragar 5 months ago
very smart to make the turbo work and then stop the engine so its no new oil lubing the turbo:P jackass
matsemiljakobsen 6 months ago
@matsemiljakobsen wow. never heard of a self-lubricating ball bearing turbo...jackass
aenimis 5 months ago
@aenimis my balls are self-lubricating
razioth 5 months ago
@razioth one day you'll have a girlfriend. doubtfully, but there's hope for even the dumbest people
aenimis 5 months ago
@aenimis I know rite, you know everything about my life and who I am.
But the real question is, why are you mad in front of your computer, dear friend?
razioth 5 months ago
@razioth Irish+Whiskey+Angry annoying girlfriend= nothing better to do
aenimis 5 months ago
27.76 seconds from key off to the turbine to stop spinning... wow. :P
ralliartfanevoix 6 months ago
Thats good!! make it turn without oil lubrication!!!
marp182 6 months ago
@marp182 how do the turbo stops after the engine is off or just turns like the video?
crazeguy26 5 months ago
I've thought long and hard about this and im fairly sure that everybody just needs to chill the *u*k out. Watch the video and continue living your life!
nonames00 6 months ago 6
@nonames00 Long and hard...that's what she said!
aaroncake 5 months ago 32
This car must be kryptonite for the colorblind.
Sandor203 6 months ago
well, with modern turbo's as previously mentioned in comments here it isn't really necessary to provide oil for cooling on spool down as its just free spinning. The cool down period is not only just for the turbo, its for the whole engine. You want to try and cool it down from extreme temperatures first so that hot spots don't develop in the engine and oil doesn't burn in the turbo heat. So idling it till the thermo fans cycle out is all you need if your worried about needing a turbo timer.
deztructo123 6 months ago
Wow aaroncake... I remember visiting your site all the time a few years back for the circuitry projects and potato gun ideas. I knew you were an RX-7 enthusiast, but never would have expected to just stumble upon your youtube channel after searching for turbo'd cars! Small world.
TheGoodChap 6 months ago
that's paint??? Nice job, i guessed powdercoat when i first saw it.
rideredRC51 6 months ago
@rideredRC51 The red candy is DuploColor MetalCast applied over polished metal (or on the intake manifold, a silver metal flake). The black is just VHT Caliper Enamel.
aaroncake 6 months ago
people who know nothing about cars have the most funny comments lol!!!!
stupidguy120 6 months ago
i would stick it in
charliehockey78 6 months ago
awsome engine man but I think will be better if was blue
ivchenco1 6 months ago
Isn't that where the turbo timer comes in? To properly shut down the engine after the turbo spool?
pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR 6 months ago 2
@pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR I wonder why no one can just do a "CTRL-F" and type in "turbo timer" before commenting about turbo timers again.
aaroncake 6 months ago
@aaroncake it wasn't a comment. It's a question.
pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR 6 months ago
@pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR I've answered it a bunch of times but yes, that's what a turbo timer is theoretically for. It allows you to exit the vehicle (with the key) while the engine runs to cool down the turbo. It may have a simple time selection, or an automatic timer based on how the vehicle was driven. But turbo timers aren't necessary with modern water-cooled turbos.
aaroncake 6 months ago
@aaroncake I'm not trying to argue or bring up something youve mentioned 100 times, but isnt a turbo timer actually to keep oil flowing through the bearing of the turbo until it is properly slowed down enough that remaining oil would be enough to last until it quits spinning? I know oil was used to cool turbos in the past but now its just mainly oil feed until the impeller slows down enough isnt it?
mathewdylang 6 months ago
@mathewdylang Correct. A turbo timer keeps the engine running, and thus the oil flowing, for a few minutes to cool down a hot oil-cooled turbo. Most journal bearing turbos only spin for a few seconds after the engine is shut off, and with ball bearings the load is so light anyway it doesn't matter. Turbo timers are really only needed if the car was just beaten on severely and then parked and even then, mostly with oil-cooled only turbos (old, old technology).
aaroncake 6 months ago
@aaroncake My GT4094 (old style without the surge ports) spins for damn near a minute and a half after shut off... When I watched it the first time I was like WTF? My friends thought it was BB but alas it is just the journal bearing type/oil cooled. Spools quick too.
TEDDER1 from Rx7club
TEDDERAMA 6 months ago
@aaroncake I don't even know what turbo I have. My friend just picked it for me he just told me to install it in my S13. It's an RB25 though. I connected some hose to the oil pan (drilled a hole for it). That's oil cooled turbo? Do I need a timer for it? I just started getting into turbos lately. Can't help but smile when hearing that BOV going off.
pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR 6 months ago
@pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR If you didn't connect any water lines, then it is an oil cooled turbo. In general you are probably fine without a turbo timer, unless you have a habit of driving the car hard and then parking it right after. Even after hard driving there are usually a few minutes of easy driving before the engine is shut off but there are times, like at the track, where this doesn't happen.
aaroncake 6 months ago
@aaroncake Well I usually park, rev it spooling the turbo just to hear the BOV one last time before I shut it off. I do highrev it half the time after stopping (like at a stop sign, after red light, etc) and gunning it in highway at times (following the speed limit usually but when someone tries to aggravate me, like tailgaiting me, I "race" that person until they stop). Not all the time though. So I do need it?
pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR 6 months ago
@pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR Really all you need to do is let the engine run a little while after you've revved it before shutting off. Just do your rev, then do things like close the windows, take off your seat belt, grab your luggage, etc. then shut off the engine. A turbo timer would only be useful if you wanted to leave the car when parking it right after running the engine at high load for enough time to actually build some heat. So in general, I'd say that no, you don't need one.
aaroncake 6 months ago
@aaroncake That's fair. I mean I don't need to leave right away. I have unharness myself, remove my steering wheel, switch off my kill switch, lock my clutch and make sure all doors are close. I live in New York and thieves are everywhere specially Honda Boys. I have to be extra careful. So far I've spent at least $6,000 for the past 2 years on this car. I'm even in process of buying boots for this. It's enough time for me to cool down the turbo. Well anyways thanks for your time and advice bro!
pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR 6 months ago
@pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR Wow, I couldn't imagine having to live like that. But yeah, that sounds like plenty of time for the turbo to cool down.
aaroncake 6 months ago
@aaroncake It's a dog eat dog city. Thieves will try anything they can, even watch you for months just to wait for that moment you make a mistake not securing your ride right, they'll smash windows and steal the whole car by pushing it. I actually seen one literally towing the whole car by backing up to it and driving off. Gone in less than 2 sec. Thinking about it, yeah I really don't need a turbo timer lol I need that time to make sure my car's locked up securely
pinoyALLmotorEVOIXMR 6 months ago
put ur hand infront of the tubro !!!
nilly95 6 months ago
why the red u could have used the money on something better
alexmart33 6 months ago
@alexmart33 I like red. But, the $45-$50 I spent on paint would have only just been beer money anyway.
aaroncake 6 months ago 9
Chuck norris washed this engine...
turbokompressored 6 months ago
That fucking thing ran for three seconds... I don't think the oil boiled in the Turbo you dumb shit.
godackgudalach1 6 months ago
I wanna huck a nickel in there, then maybe youll run a cone you fucking newb
123davidhunt 6 months ago
@123davidhunt By employing my douchebag to English translator, I was able to deduce that your comment reads "Novice, you should install an air filter lest foreign objects enter the inducer". Well, to answer your concern expressed so eloquently, have you considered that I just removed the filter temporarily to shoot this video?
aaroncake 6 months ago 83
@aaroncake Had to quote that on Facebook lol
turbomonkey36 6 months ago
@aaroncake Can you PLEASE send me the link to that translator? I can't understand 98% of the fuckwaddery posted on the internet. I have a brain, and functional reading and writing skills, so I often feel totally left out.
Also, calm down back seat tuners. It's a ball bearing turbo (which requires oil FLOW, not oil pressure) and it's no longer under load. It's almost guaranteed he's using synthetic oil, which doesn't suffer from coking like conventional oil. Take a breath, it's going to be ok.
TheAristotleQ 5 months ago 2
@123davidhunt Jealous trolls are worse then the usual trolls. :/
quickbeeare 6 months ago 5
sooo sexy. <3
eLiTeQuEbEc 6 months ago
stick your finger in there :)
jackf456 6 months ago
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SICK MAN; SICK!!!!!!!!
knutteliten 6 months ago
Ur turbo is like "FUCK THIS KEEP GOING" D:<
diamondblade1 6 months ago
I think i just jizz ._.
sitthichai147 6 months ago
isnt this bad for the turbine, because when the engine is off there is no oil pressure and the tubine spins without lubrication?
BulgarianBoy92 6 months ago
@BulgarianBoy92 I highly doubt that it's bad for the turbo, I'm sure the engineers went through it
rayvdub 6 months ago
@rayvdub Mate, there is a reason with a turboed vehicle that you wait at least 1-3 minutes before turning the car off, so that the turbo can spool down.
DON'T do it and after a couple of short bursts its very easy to have the turbo either seize or even completley explode.
Ravigar 6 months ago
@Ravigar Only on ancient oil cooled turbos. Modern water cooled ball bearing turbos don't need any sort of cooldown period unless driven hard. And if I were to drive this car hard enough on the street to warrant a turbo cooldown period, I'd be in prison before I got home. :-) Oil technology has also improved a lot since the 70s where many of these myths come from.
aaroncake 6 months ago