Thank God the Good good news ! and what a joy it is for all who have this confidence that he who began a good work in us will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus .. yes that is good news !
Praise God for the gift of salvation and privilege to serve Him through missions, evangelism and being a living epistle. All praise to our God! Great Clip!
The only thing that the will of man is good for is to be surrendered and crucified that the will of God and life of Christ may reign supreme in the heart.
Looks like Paul's free will was violated. Christ went so far as to reveal Himself to Paul in visible form, even revealing some of His glory to him, blinding him, and commanding him where he should go, and what he should do.
speak of man's will as profiting nothing, having nothing to do with their being born again, and having nothing to do with how a person becomes a child of the promise of Abraham.
Exposite it yourself. Exegete, don't eisogete the text.
Even if it looks like it bereansearch, it wasn't...because if a man doesn't want to obey the Lord no amount of revelation or signs will make him...(Pharaoh of Egypt vs Moses was one example)....No, Paul made these choices himself.... Love in the Lord, from your Messianic Jewish Friend , and Shalom from Israel!
True, what I am saying is that apart from a miraculous work in the heart of a man, by the Holy Spirit, like in Isaiah, (heart of stone replaced with heart of flesh) there is no turning of repentance... no matter what sign someone sees.
no "bereansearch" because it is not OF him that willeth and runneth , does NOT mean that we don't have to will or run! The poor condition of soul that Esau CHOSE to have despite God's grace was foreknown, but he had a choice. this is why we are admonished to not be like Esau because we have a choice. God will harden whom he will harden( because they choose hardhearted rebellion),and Jacob's heart to answer the call to become one of the few chosen was foreknown and God thus willed to show mercy
I thank God, that He has, according to the good pleasure of His will, purposed to save many. For if He did not, how could I ever pray that He save someone, for in that case, it would be totally up to unregenerate, faulty, and evil man to understand the things of man, and to believe what is foolish to him in the message of the cross.
If God cannot affect violate men's will, how can His people evangelize? If so, why does He work with His Spirit, through preaching?
This man isn't crazy. He knows what's he's talking about. It's you who needs to go back to the bible and read the Hebrew meanings and creek meaning to all of the bible. You can loose your salvation. Read and learn. That's why Paul in the bible is always warning Christians to hang on to the faith because it's a narrow road with a narrow gate.
"2row777", Did not satan and the fallen angels have eternal life before the fell? Would not Adam and Eve have lived eternally before the rebelled. Read the book of Jude carefully. it has always been about obedience or death, my friend. check out the blogs on my myspace which you can link from here and get back to me
Salvation by grace though faith does not denigrate the law, but underscores its true importance: 1) by providing a payment for the penalty of death, which the law required for failing to keep it; 2) by fulfilling the law's original purpose, which is to serve as a tutor to show mankind's utter inability to obey God's righteous demands and to drive people to Christ (Gal 3:24); and 3) by giving believers the capacity to obey it (8:3, 4)"
"alice20002" ok since, as you rightfully say, grace gives us the ability to obey God's commands, why do you believe the heretics that lie to you about grace being unconditional acceptance and forgiveness without repentance
"ragenfire", alice20002 is very off if you read all her comments on these 3 videos. these are the kind of carefully crafted smokescreens that you must be able to see through if you are going to be able to denounce the damnable heresy of "eternal security" and earnestly contend for the faith
"Bogzy" eternal security was always a lie from hell. John Calvin was a murderous, avaricious usurper of power! Why would you so casually take in the ramblings of a man of such character? Jude thoroughly denounced these type men who crept in a taught filthy dreams of grace as their warped cowardly heart wanted to fantasize it to be. Jude gave a thorough refutation of the twisted thinking of those who preach "once saved always saved", by giving examples of how God has always destroyed man for sin.
"deligentile", that really is a sloppy unthoughtful theological take on salvation. God makes the way for us to be saved, draws us, empowers us, convicts ect but He never forces us to follow Him. If we don't follow Him we are not in the faith, which is the prerequisite for His saving grace. If we say we have fellowship with Him and walk in darkness, we lie. I wonder if you have ever even tried to simply read the actual words of Jesus without trying to force them through the lenses of Calvinism
@diligentile true, if we assume falsly that we can gain salvation on our own than we are just as wrong in thinking we could lose it.
BUT the bible teaches not such things.
Salvation is work of God in our lives and those who the Father gives to Jesus, they will come and Jesus will not let them go.
This is why no man can tell me I am saved by decision, but the Spirit of God proofs to me, that I am eternally saved and will never be lost or condemned
Bogzy, I really am saddened by such a thoughtless assertion. Why did Peter say in Acts 4 "save yourselves from this untoward generation",if you have no part to play in your salvation? Yes, its 100% God's empowerment, but we must work out our salvation with fear and trembling. It's not a question of God's ability to keep us,but will we truly follow the Shepperd. Did Adam fall because God was unable to keep him? How could you be soooooo careless and unthoughtful in taking a position like that?
I don't want to argue on doctrine, because it is in vain.just read the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit that He gives you understanding to understand the Word.
all I ask you is this: if you are saved, what are you saved from?
and all I say is: yes, man has a part in God's salvation of His soul, but still "salvation belongs to our God"(Rev 7:10)
I have a blog on Myspace "Lord, are there few that be saved?", which you can click on from my profile here. Read it and all the scriptures listed in it, and we will see how true to the scriptures you are, if you can't then reverse such an unstable, unholy, unbiblical position.
Also it doesn't matter whether or not Calvin is a murderer, because Calvinism has absolutly nothing to do w/the man John Calvin. And even if Calvin was a murderer, it still has no effect on whether or not the bible teaches Calvinism.
My response to you quoting Rom 2:6-10 is that a true Christian won't do that, because true Christians don't continue in sin and they remain in Christ (1 John 3:9).
Actually Rudderman the bible says that Jesus actually came to save people (Mat 1:21), not just give them the ability to be saved. Jesus also saves us to the uttermost, so that means that only God saves you, and you don't have any part in it."Work out our salvation," is about sanctification which is AFTER salvation. Adam and Eve had freewill, but that was different because they were not dead in sin yet, but we are (Eph 2:1).
"cassman" once again, why did Peter say "save yourselves from this untoward generation"? It is all a work of grace(God doing it), but grace can be presumptuously turned into lasciviousness(once again, read Jude)! to believe that the wrath of God won't come upon you and eternally damned you for living in rebellion to the Savior, then you are perverting the meaning of grace into that which will accept unbridled living. that's the wicked legacy of the hereitc and murderer calvin. read Rom 2:6-10
What Peter probably meant w/that comment is that he is giving people the outward call. In other words he is asking them to repent, but God must grant that person repentance or he can't repent (2tim 2:25). Please give me that verse so I can analyze it properly. No orthodox Calvinists believe that you can sin all you want and still call yourself a Christian. We believe that Crhsitians don't cotinuously sin and they stay in Christ (1John 3:9).
John Macarthur explains Rom.3:31 better than me --"Knowing he would be accused of antinomianism (being against the law) for arguing that a man was justified apart from keeping the law, Paul introduced here the defense he later developed in chaps. 6,7
Romans 3: 27-28 Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
You deny the work of God in preserving his beloved. He is the author and perfecter of our faith!
Hebrews 12:2
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
@diligentile you said "I was born again and a new creation but now I am not" -impossible!: Let me ask you? Was Adam and Eve once spiritually alive before they rebelled and became dead in sins? What an unthoughtful statement, to assert that if one is ever born again, they can never lose it. The dog can return to its own vomit 2Pet2:20. Reformed theology is the product of a murderous man of a depraved mind,John Calvin. He and Luther are two ugly blights on theology and church history!
Sin separates man from God and there is none that is righteous!
If someone were to fall, they no longer are saved and are headed toward destruction again - unless they accept the grace and mercy that comes from repentance and forgiveness of sins..
This is heresy.God's grace sustains his people. You cannot be saved and then lost and then saved and then lost. You are saved once and forever. What we did not gain by works, we do not sustain by works.
@larrywalkerntbi See you are like most so called "Christians" who think that they said a prayer now they are saved and it dont matter what type of life you live you are saved. What is being taught is not salvation by works but that SALVATION LEADS TO GOOD WORKS. I feel for you if you get to heaven with out the proof of Salvation
I think I commented on this a couple of years ago, so I am a little foggy on the context here. I will say that you accusing me of being a "so called 'Christian' who think that they said a prayer and now they are saved and it don't matter what type of life..." is way out of line. You don't know me, anything about me, when I was saved, or what I claim my "testimony" is. I in no way ascribe to Finney's walk the aisle salvation.
I fully believe in the perserverance of the saints, God will cause His people to walk in good works for His glory. But we are JUSTIFIED BY FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE, and we are sustained in that justification by FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE. I will be in heaven, but not because of my good works, but because of Christ finished work. I do good works BECAUSE I am saved, not to be saved.
@BrandonClapp74 I would urge you to speak the truth(be sure what you're saying is true) in love (what if I was an unbeliever? What you said was not seasoned by grace and mercy and love, you preached nothing but Law to me.)
@larrywalkerntbi Law lol why do monderen Christians always scream Law when someone bring up doing good works? I never once brought up Law, If you were an unbeliver then why would you speak about what is and what is not Heresy? What I spoke came right out of the Scripture if it offended you take it up with the Scripture my friend
@larrywalkerntbi I would urge you to speak the truth and not this liberal mondern Christianity. Only in the last 50 years have we seen Pastors preach this works equal Legalism. Research Spurgeon and Calvin and Martin Luther. Although I dont agree with every word they spoke at least they preached the true Gospel.
@larrywalkerntbi Yeshua said Let your Light so shine before men thagt they may see your good works and glorify your Father in Heaven. Rav Shaul said For we are Hisworkmanship, created in Messiah Yeshua for good works, which EL prepared before hand that we should WALK IN THEM
@larrywalkerntbi Messiah over and over again said that our good works were proof of our salvation. With out this proof you should worry dearly about your SALVATION.
@larrywalkerntbi define grace please? If you can do this properly I believe that you can begin to recover yourself out your deep theological error. Who do the children of Israel typify? After they where saved from Egypt, they were afterward destroyed! Read the book of Jude carefully. It is a weak man's fantasy that you are eternally secure because of a moment of faith and confession. How can anyone so recklessly give their heart over to such a presumptuous notion that has NO Biblical support?
In the book of Romans, the Apostle Paul knew that teaching justification by faith apart from works and the law would bring up criticisms that you articulated so well in your comment: "...convinced of this lie that you can live a fleshly life full of sins and still enter heaven."
Your assumptions of 'once saved always saved' is that it gives us the excuse to sin all we like. The Apostle Paul (in Romans ch. 6) made it clear that was not the case. Our old self is crucified, and God gives us a new heart with new desires that loves His law and hates sin. That's the doctrine of regeneration. Once God saves someone, He takes that person and supernaturally creates a new creature.
While works do NOT save a person, it serves as evidence that God is doing a supernatural work inside them. A Christian by no means is perfect, but their habitual lifestyle is a genuine striving for holiness. (Book of I John)
Romans 6: 15-16 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?
The purpose for the law is to reveal to us our sinful depravity and need for a Savior. Nothing 'good' we do is pleasing to God. In fact, He says that "all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment" (In Isaiah 64:6).
Romans 3: 19-20 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, SO THAT EVERY MOUTH MAY BE CLOSED AND ALL THE WORLD MAY BECOME ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD; because by the works of the Law NO FLESH will be justified in His sight; for THROUGH the Law COMES THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN. (**keep reading verses 21-26)
"Alice"that passage show us that it was ALWAYS by grace and not works of the law, even in the old covenant,because we know that those in that dispensation who kept the commandments didn't go to hell. yet their faith in God (which was and is the prerequisite for salvation)was shown through their obedience, as it is now.the law was weak through the flesh(Rom8)and brought about crippling sin consciousness(Rom3:20).you're trying to teach somthing you have absolutely no grasp of.none of it applies
God was able to never let their be the temptation of sin for Adam, He is able to superimpose on man's free will in countless areas, but although He gives the ablility to stay on the narrow path to life we must be tried and never forced to follow! "diligentile" that question is off-based. salvation has never been ONLY based on God's ability and workings, although He is the only Source and Power that can bring do the work in us. Our obedience and conformity to His wil is always the requirement.
@parakeethands The Word of God is explicit that the dog can return to his vomit after once being clean, and the latter end is worse.Where is the eternal security? We are only secure if we continue in an altogether new way of living. Yes, it is ALL God's ability(grace) to be obedient son's of God, even the faith and clarity to say yes is by God. But, from the garden of Eden to the second coming, it is always been about obedience or death, not accept and all is well. Jude railed against this error
@Ruddermanspeaks We abide and trust in Christ's perfect obedience, not our own imperfect obedience. That is the main point. We are eternally secure in Him and His perfect obedience. He who knew no sin became sin that we might become the righteousness of God in Christ. :)
@parakeethands NO! You are parroting limpwristed, fantasies of unbridled so-called Bible teachers. They teach you to foolishly search for the easy road to heaven, even to the point of self-delusion, not to strive (agonize) to enter in through the narrow gate Mat:7.Jesus is coming to take vengeance on all those who OBEY NOT the gospel 2Thes 1:8! You have the ability to obey because of His perfect obedience. YOU must repent and follow! Follow holiness without which NO man shall see Him Heb12:14
Who is Spurgeon? Only a frail fallen man, who preached the truths of scripture. Is wasn't Spurgeon who turned the hearts of his hearers, it was God who worked in their hearts. I could put a 16 year old kid behind a pulpit and if God chooses he will saved thousands. The power is not in the man, it's in the Holy Spirit acting upon hearts through the wonder of the gospel of the Cross.
Thank God the Good good news ! and what a joy it is for all who have this confidence that he who began a good work in us will perfect it until the day of Christ Jesus .. yes that is good news !
edantila 11 months ago
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@Rudderman: You must be born again, and again, and again, and again.....??
AloofMedia 1 year ago
Praise God for the gift of salvation and privilege to serve Him through missions, evangelism and being a living epistle. All praise to our God! Great Clip!
GraceTruthTeacher 1 year ago
Por gentileza, alguém poderia colocar legenda no video! Obg
lanelp1 2 years ago
The only thing that the will of man is good for is to be surrendered and crucified that the will of God and life of Christ may reign supreme in the heart.
Apeleutheros80 2 years ago
Looks like Paul's free will was violated. Christ went so far as to reveal Himself to Paul in visible form, even revealing some of His glory to him, blinding him, and commanding him where he should go, and what he should do.
JOHN 1:13, ROMANS 9:16, JOHN 6:63
speak of man's will as profiting nothing, having nothing to do with their being born again, and having nothing to do with how a person becomes a child of the promise of Abraham.
Exposite it yourself. Exegete, don't eisogete the text.
bereansearch 3 years ago
Even if it looks like it bereansearch, it wasn't...because if a man doesn't want to obey the Lord no amount of revelation or signs will make him...(Pharaoh of Egypt vs Moses was one example)....No, Paul made these choices himself.... Love in the Lord, from your Messianic Jewish Friend , and Shalom from Israel!
GodHasNOMother 2 years ago
True, what I am saying is that apart from a miraculous work in the heart of a man, by the Holy Spirit, like in Isaiah, (heart of stone replaced with heart of flesh) there is no turning of repentance... no matter what sign someone sees.
bereansearch 2 years ago
no "bereansearch" because it is not OF him that willeth and runneth , does NOT mean that we don't have to will or run! The poor condition of soul that Esau CHOSE to have despite God's grace was foreknown, but he had a choice. this is why we are admonished to not be like Esau because we have a choice. God will harden whom he will harden( because they choose hardhearted rebellion),and Jacob's heart to answer the call to become one of the few chosen was foreknown and God thus willed to show mercy
Ruddermanspeaks 2 years ago
Nice scripture twisting. Esau sought repentance with tears. Believe your tradition? Or exegetical interpretation based on the grammar? You decide.
bereansearch 2 years ago
I thank God, that He has, according to the good pleasure of His will, purposed to save many. For if He did not, how could I ever pray that He save someone, for in that case, it would be totally up to unregenerate, faulty, and evil man to understand the things of man, and to believe what is foolish to him in the message of the cross.
If God cannot affect violate men's will, how can His people evangelize? If so, why does He work with His Spirit, through preaching?
bereansearch 3 years ago
In the book of Acts, why did Paul believe that Jesus was the Messiah? (for help read Galatians 1:15)
bereansearch 3 years ago
This man isn't crazy. He knows what's he's talking about. It's you who needs to go back to the bible and read the Hebrew meanings and creek meaning to all of the bible. You can loose your salvation. Read and learn. That's why Paul in the bible is always warning Christians to hang on to the faith because it's a narrow road with a narrow gate.
ragenfire 3 years ago
This man has my heart.
Patternpop 3 years ago
"2row777", Did not satan and the fallen angels have eternal life before the fell? Would not Adam and Eve have lived eternally before the rebelled. Read the book of Jude carefully. it has always been about obedience or death, my friend. check out the blogs on my myspace which you can link from here and get back to me
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
Salvation by grace though faith does not denigrate the law, but underscores its true importance: 1) by providing a payment for the penalty of death, which the law required for failing to keep it; 2) by fulfilling the law's original purpose, which is to serve as a tutor to show mankind's utter inability to obey God's righteous demands and to drive people to Christ (Gal 3:24); and 3) by giving believers the capacity to obey it (8:3, 4)"
alice20002 3 years ago
"alice20002" ok since, as you rightfully say, grace gives us the ability to obey God's commands, why do you believe the heretics that lie to you about grace being unconditional acceptance and forgiveness without repentance
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
Amen to Alice20002> IN total agreement!
ragenfire 3 years ago
"ragenfire", alice20002 is very off if you read all her comments on these 3 videos. these are the kind of carefully crafted smokescreens that you must be able to see through if you are going to be able to denounce the damnable heresy of "eternal security" and earnestly contend for the faith
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
eternal security is not a heresy.only today's doctrine of "salvation" has made it look so.
Bogzy1989 3 years ago
"Bogzy" eternal security was always a lie from hell. John Calvin was a murderous, avaricious usurper of power! Why would you so casually take in the ramblings of a man of such character? Jude thoroughly denounced these type men who crept in a taught filthy dreams of grace as their warped cowardly heart wanted to fantasize it to be. Jude gave a thorough refutation of the twisted thinking of those who preach "once saved always saved", by giving examples of how God has always destroyed man for sin.
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
Only when we take the false notion that man is the cause of salvation can we then conclude that man can lose salvation.
diligentile 3 years ago
"deligentile", that really is a sloppy unthoughtful theological take on salvation. God makes the way for us to be saved, draws us, empowers us, convicts ect but He never forces us to follow Him. If we don't follow Him we are not in the faith, which is the prerequisite for His saving grace. If we say we have fellowship with Him and walk in darkness, we lie. I wonder if you have ever even tried to simply read the actual words of Jesus without trying to force them through the lenses of Calvinism
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
@diligentile
Amen brother. Awesome observation!
Ritsaart 1 year ago
@diligentile true, if we assume falsly that we can gain salvation on our own than we are just as wrong in thinking we could lose it.
BUT the bible teaches not such things.
Salvation is work of God in our lives and those who the Father gives to Jesus, they will come and Jesus will not let them go.
This is why no man can tell me I am saved by decision, but the Spirit of God proofs to me, that I am eternally saved and will never be lost or condemned
To God be the Glory
meinaim 1 year ago
Salvation is 100% a work of God.
so your saying that, once God has saved someone, God can not keep him saved?you're saying God is not faithful?
Bogzy1989 3 years ago
Bogzy, I really am saddened by such a thoughtless assertion. Why did Peter say in Acts 4 "save yourselves from this untoward generation",if you have no part to play in your salvation? Yes, its 100% God's empowerment, but we must work out our salvation with fear and trembling. It's not a question of God's ability to keep us,but will we truly follow the Shepperd. Did Adam fall because God was unable to keep him? How could you be soooooo careless and unthoughtful in taking a position like that?
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
I don't want to argue on doctrine, because it is in vain.just read the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit that He gives you understanding to understand the Word.
all I ask you is this: if you are saved, what are you saved from?
and all I say is: yes, man has a part in God's salvation of His soul, but still "salvation belongs to our God"(Rev 7:10)
Bogzy1989 3 years ago
I have a blog on Myspace "Lord, are there few that be saved?", which you can click on from my profile here. Read it and all the scriptures listed in it, and we will see how true to the scriptures you are, if you can't then reverse such an unstable, unholy, unbiblical position.
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
"unstable, unholy, unbiblical position."
....then how can I read your blog...because that statement shows how open-minded you are to hearing other people's beliefs.
Bogzy1989 3 years ago
Also it doesn't matter whether or not Calvin is a murderer, because Calvinism has absolutly nothing to do w/the man John Calvin. And even if Calvin was a murderer, it still has no effect on whether or not the bible teaches Calvinism.
My response to you quoting Rom 2:6-10 is that a true Christian won't do that, because true Christians don't continue in sin and they remain in Christ (1 John 3:9).
CASSMAN777 2 years ago
Actually Rudderman the bible says that Jesus actually came to save people (Mat 1:21), not just give them the ability to be saved. Jesus also saves us to the uttermost, so that means that only God saves you, and you don't have any part in it."Work out our salvation," is about sanctification which is AFTER salvation. Adam and Eve had freewill, but that was different because they were not dead in sin yet, but we are (Eph 2:1).
CASSMAN777 2 years ago
"cassman" once again, why did Peter say "save yourselves from this untoward generation"? It is all a work of grace(God doing it), but grace can be presumptuously turned into lasciviousness(once again, read Jude)! to believe that the wrath of God won't come upon you and eternally damned you for living in rebellion to the Savior, then you are perverting the meaning of grace into that which will accept unbridled living. that's the wicked legacy of the hereitc and murderer calvin. read Rom 2:6-10
Ruddermanspeaks 2 years ago
What Peter probably meant w/that comment is that he is giving people the outward call. In other words he is asking them to repent, but God must grant that person repentance or he can't repent (2tim 2:25). Please give me that verse so I can analyze it properly. No orthodox Calvinists believe that you can sin all you want and still call yourself a Christian. We believe that Crhsitians don't cotinuously sin and they stay in Christ (1John 3:9).
CASSMAN777 2 years ago
Salvation is 100% "God's Work..." yet it is He who says: "Turn to me and be saved all the ends of the earth!" Isaiah 45:22.
God works salvation- but he does not "rape" anyone into the kingdom. THAT is the great mystery...and the fallacy of "irresistable grace"
TainoRebelde 3 years ago 2
I like the way you put that; "does not 'rape' anyone into the kingdom". Very well put. The Lord makes those whom He chooses 'willing' to come to Him.
As the Word says; "You did not chose Me, but I chose You".
boogertoots 2 years ago
ha ha ha... ya, thats an old cliche of mine..
You're welcome to use it!!!
Its a smack on the face to the advocates of "Banana Theology."
TainoRebelde 2 years ago
We don't believe God rapes us to salvation. We believe that God changes our hearts to makes us WANT to be saved. Read Philipian 2:13 and Ezekiel 36
CASSMAN777 2 years ago
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Seraph311 1 year ago
John Macarthur explains Rom.3:31 better than me --"Knowing he would be accused of antinomianism (being against the law) for arguing that a man was justified apart from keeping the law, Paul introduced here the defense he later developed in chaps. 6,7
alice20002 3 years ago
John M. never admits to being unperfect, never sinning. Other than that Lord ship stuff he's great.
Godcorpusa 3 years ago
Romans 3: 27-28 Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
alice20002 3 years ago
is he from chipata?
8minaa8 4 years ago
You deny the work of God in preserving his beloved. He is the author and perfecter of our faith!
Hebrews 12:2
Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
diligentile 4 years ago
You must be born again, the Bible never speaks of being born again multiple times.
"I was born again and a new creation but now I am not" -impossible!
A regenerate Christian has a new nature and is a new creature.
2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!
Galatians 6:15
Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation.
diligentile 4 years ago
Great point. You cannot be a new creation then an old, then a new, then an old.
larrywalkerntbi 4 years ago
@diligentile you said "I was born again and a new creation but now I am not" -impossible!: Let me ask you? Was Adam and Eve once spiritually alive before they rebelled and became dead in sins? What an unthoughtful statement, to assert that if one is ever born again, they can never lose it. The dog can return to its own vomit 2Pet2:20. Reformed theology is the product of a murderous man of a depraved mind,John Calvin. He and Luther are two ugly blights on theology and church history!
Ruddermanspeaks 1 year ago
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spurgeon preached eternal security: one of the strongest delusions of all. so please don't remind the world of this heretic
Ruddermanspeaks 4 years ago
Is your God able to save a man but not to keep him saved?
1 John 1:9 says that God will not only forgive us our sins but also purify us from all unrighteousness.
9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
diligentile 4 years ago
Sin separates man from God and there is none that is righteous!
If someone were to fall, they no longer are saved and are headed toward destruction again - unless they accept the grace and mercy that comes from repentance and forgiveness of sins..
miamisurf 4 years ago
This is heresy.God's grace sustains his people. You cannot be saved and then lost and then saved and then lost. You are saved once and forever. What we did not gain by works, we do not sustain by works.
larrywalkerntbi 4 years ago 8
@larrywalkerntbi See you are like most so called "Christians" who think that they said a prayer now they are saved and it dont matter what type of life you live you are saved. What is being taught is not salvation by works but that SALVATION LEADS TO GOOD WORKS. I feel for you if you get to heaven with out the proof of Salvation
BrandonClapp74 1 year ago
@BrandonClapp74
I think I commented on this a couple of years ago, so I am a little foggy on the context here. I will say that you accusing me of being a "so called 'Christian' who think that they said a prayer and now they are saved and it don't matter what type of life..." is way out of line. You don't know me, anything about me, when I was saved, or what I claim my "testimony" is. I in no way ascribe to Finney's walk the aisle salvation.
larrywalkerntbi 1 year ago
@BrandonClapp74
I fully believe in the perserverance of the saints, God will cause His people to walk in good works for His glory. But we are JUSTIFIED BY FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE, and we are sustained in that justification by FAITH ALONE IN CHRIST ALONE. I will be in heaven, but not because of my good works, but because of Christ finished work. I do good works BECAUSE I am saved, not to be saved.
larrywalkerntbi 1 year ago
@BrandonClapp74 I would urge you to speak the truth(be sure what you're saying is true) in love (what if I was an unbeliever? What you said was not seasoned by grace and mercy and love, you preached nothing but Law to me.)
larrywalkerntbi 1 year ago
@larrywalkerntbi Law lol why do monderen Christians always scream Law when someone bring up doing good works? I never once brought up Law, If you were an unbeliver then why would you speak about what is and what is not Heresy? What I spoke came right out of the Scripture if it offended you take it up with the Scripture my friend
BrandonClapp74 1 year ago
@larrywalkerntbi I would urge you to speak the truth and not this liberal mondern Christianity. Only in the last 50 years have we seen Pastors preach this works equal Legalism. Research Spurgeon and Calvin and Martin Luther. Although I dont agree with every word they spoke at least they preached the true Gospel.
BrandonClapp74 1 year ago 2
@larrywalkerntbi Yeshua said Let your Light so shine before men thagt they may see your good works and glorify your Father in Heaven. Rav Shaul said For we are Hisworkmanship, created in Messiah Yeshua for good works, which EL prepared before hand that we should WALK IN THEM
BrandonClapp74 1 year ago
@larrywalkerntbi Messiah over and over again said that our good works were proof of our salvation. With out this proof you should worry dearly about your SALVATION.
BrandonClapp74 1 year ago
@larrywalkerntbi define grace please? If you can do this properly I believe that you can begin to recover yourself out your deep theological error. Who do the children of Israel typify? After they where saved from Egypt, they were afterward destroyed! Read the book of Jude carefully. It is a weak man's fantasy that you are eternally secure because of a moment of faith and confession. How can anyone so recklessly give their heart over to such a presumptuous notion that has NO Biblical support?
Ruddermanspeaks 1 year ago
@larrywalkerntbi 2Pe 2:20-22
That's not what the Holy Bible says.
malikzzzzz 7 months ago
Man is given free will and "keeping him saved" is up to man, and not God.
Satan would love for you to be convinced of this lie that you can live a fleshly life full of sins and still enter heaven.
1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.
matthew 7:15-16 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
miamisurf 4 years ago
In the book of Romans, the Apostle Paul knew that teaching justification by faith apart from works and the law would bring up criticisms that you articulated so well in your comment: "...convinced of this lie that you can live a fleshly life full of sins and still enter heaven."
alice20002 3 years ago
Your assumptions of 'once saved always saved' is that it gives us the excuse to sin all we like. The Apostle Paul (in Romans ch. 6) made it clear that was not the case. Our old self is crucified, and God gives us a new heart with new desires that loves His law and hates sin. That's the doctrine of regeneration. Once God saves someone, He takes that person and supernaturally creates a new creature.
alice20002 3 years ago
While works do NOT save a person, it serves as evidence that God is doing a supernatural work inside them. A Christian by no means is perfect, but their habitual lifestyle is a genuine striving for holiness. (Book of I John)
alice20002 3 years ago 2
Romans 6: 15-16 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?
alice20002 3 years ago
The purpose for the law is to reveal to us our sinful depravity and need for a Savior. Nothing 'good' we do is pleasing to God. In fact, He says that "all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment" (In Isaiah 64:6).
alice20002 3 years ago
Romans 3: 19-20 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, SO THAT EVERY MOUTH MAY BE CLOSED AND ALL THE WORLD MAY BECOME ACCOUNTABLE TO GOD; because by the works of the Law NO FLESH will be justified in His sight; for THROUGH the Law COMES THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN. (**keep reading verses 21-26)
alice20002 3 years ago
"Alice"that passage show us that it was ALWAYS by grace and not works of the law, even in the old covenant,because we know that those in that dispensation who kept the commandments didn't go to hell. yet their faith in God (which was and is the prerequisite for salvation)was shown through their obedience, as it is now.the law was weak through the flesh(Rom8)and brought about crippling sin consciousness(Rom3:20).you're trying to teach somthing you have absolutely no grasp of.none of it applies
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
God was able to never let their be the temptation of sin for Adam, He is able to superimpose on man's free will in countless areas, but although He gives the ablility to stay on the narrow path to life we must be tried and never forced to follow! "diligentile" that question is off-based. salvation has never been ONLY based on God's ability and workings, although He is the only Source and Power that can bring do the work in us. Our obedience and conformity to His wil is always the requirement.
Ruddermanspeaks 3 years ago
@Ruddermanspeaks Are you smarter than God? Are you able to refute God's Word? It is you that has delusion.
parakeethands 1 year ago
@parakeethands The Word of God is explicit that the dog can return to his vomit after once being clean, and the latter end is worse.Where is the eternal security? We are only secure if we continue in an altogether new way of living. Yes, it is ALL God's ability(grace) to be obedient son's of God, even the faith and clarity to say yes is by God. But, from the garden of Eden to the second coming, it is always been about obedience or death, not accept and all is well. Jude railed against this error
Ruddermanspeaks 1 year ago
@Ruddermanspeaks We abide and trust in Christ's perfect obedience, not our own imperfect obedience. That is the main point. We are eternally secure in Him and His perfect obedience. He who knew no sin became sin that we might become the righteousness of God in Christ. :)
parakeethands 1 year ago
@parakeethands NO! You are parroting limpwristed, fantasies of unbridled so-called Bible teachers. They teach you to foolishly search for the easy road to heaven, even to the point of self-delusion, not to strive (agonize) to enter in through the narrow gate Mat:7.Jesus is coming to take vengeance on all those who OBEY NOT the gospel 2Thes 1:8! You have the ability to obey because of His perfect obedience. YOU must repent and follow! Follow holiness without which NO man shall see Him Heb12:14
Ruddermanspeaks 1 year ago
Who is Spurgeon? Only a frail fallen man, who preached the truths of scripture. Is wasn't Spurgeon who turned the hearts of his hearers, it was God who worked in their hearts. I could put a 16 year old kid behind a pulpit and if God chooses he will saved thousands. The power is not in the man, it's in the Holy Spirit acting upon hearts through the wonder of the gospel of the Cross.
LuisLeones 4 years ago 22
a spurgeon... ? No
a Mbewe...? Yes
puritan 4 years ago