You should bring more attention to 'what are you if you do not experience anything'.
Then you would know that you are not data, but being able to experience & interpret data.
Which does not necessarily mean, that reality is data. It COULD mean, that our interpretation of reality is data. Well, at least I prefer that point of view.
@TheSololobo Just because our universe is causal does not mean that the collective set of all realities must also be. One possible solution to this mess is that there are an infinite number of universes which are all derived from higher ones. This "solution" creates more questions than it does answers and I by no means know the ultimate answer to the one question that should not be answered: "Why do we exist?" so, feel free to imagine your own ideas and to share them with me or anyone really...
@AnalyticalInsanity- Or our calculations could be wrong. Might we be simply getting ahead of ourselves, theorizing and speculating on a limited amount of data thus following the wrong lead. Are our conceptualizations adequate representations of phenomena?
@TheSololobo light, energy, force. where energy enters our world and propels matter, in the mother universe energy is all and the energy that propels our physical body and physical matter will pop out of this universe when we die, and pop into this universe as things are born and created and culminated in the proper proportions and sequences. Everything you see is energy, propulsion.
@TheSololobo "if this is a virtual reality, what is then the ultimate reality?"
Well the strange thing is that if a parent reality is simulating us it too must have this weird kind of physics due to the nature of quantum information storage (which is exponentially more compact than classical info storage). Giving us only one remaining explanation for ultimate reality: watch?v=ELxupWHZnOE
yes i agree there are lots of sound theories but there may be not evidence to back them up 100% ,are you talking about " P Brains" ? if p brains exist in any sense then its safe to say that they might be more dense or odder membrains like layers of an onion. ;"D
google sumit did a NEW report on what caused the big bang and what is beyond the big bang. so we have a good idea because of the current numbers. we know the space out side of out bubble once the time of creation happend is a super dense number, we know it's half of what it used to be. so the theory is that the super dense energy pinched off a super dense part of its self as it was to heavy to maintain the dense number. this starts around 10/11 dimensional plans. it helps if you just read info.
@manaxaus Also, the string theorists think that different dimensions "membranes" or "branes" collided and that is what caused the big bang. At this point there is just speculation on top of speculation. I do not think that we will ever know for sure.
Who the hell says there was "no cause" for the Big Bang... Last I heard, we just don't know what caused it yet. Thats why we still study it. You know the whole "science marches on" thing.
So how come my dreams aren’t real? When dreaming, isn’t the brain using electrical signals to trick us into thinking like when we are awake? I’m sure most people had that I’m late for work dream only to have it repeat three times before you really woke up. You swore it felt so real. How can my brain come up with, in detail, things I’ve never seen before when I’m dreaming? Things I can’t even think up when I’m awake. It’s like dreaming is a sub-simulation within a simulation.
@Singerjoy Your dreams ARE real. As real as anything else. The reason for them being so unique and strange is because you aren't conscious; you aren't inhibited. Your mind is working without the "structure" that it has when you're awake; you don't think in terms of what you "know" to be real. You just think. Denying the reality of dreams is denying the reality of thought, which is ultimately all that exists. Reality is relative.
Is Brian Whitworth's analysis of two possible truths flawed? Doesn't the computed reality scenario make more assumptions by default simply because we know that the universe described by the laws of physics does exist? To be apart of a computer simulation, not only would this universe have to exist (in a stream of data), but there would also have to be some unknown reason why a computer would initiate such a virtual world.
The statement "This reality is just data" is rendered meaningless when he then goes on to talk about photons hitting your retinas. By claiming the existence of something such as a retina he is admitting that there is a physical object that can transmit data. He can't reduce "reality" to mean the sum of a person's perception because there are things that exist independently of that person.
@Hermey7777 When you run a simulation of 2 cars crashing into each other neither car "exists", yet 1000s of parts interact following "physical" rules as the crash is calculated. If you were inside this simulation those 2 cars would be very real to you, as would be your body parts. You see, the problem is that being inside the system makes you part of that system. What does a video game character know about you? You are totally beyond his ability to comprehend and getting out of the video game.
@Mick0722MX Actually following the Quantum model and the Copenhagen Interpretation if there are no conscious observers then the wave function of the tree never collapses thus the tree has not fallen until it has been observed.
If you listen to Thomas Campbell (the speaker in this video) his answer is that there is no forest, there is no tree until it is "rendered" by a conscious observer.
The reality is smeared allover the place until you "solidify" it. Double slit experiment shows this.
@immortalis1001 So it's more like a dream than a simulation as such. The physics in a dream be the same though since it's also based on information processing, so it wouldn't matter I guess.
Something tells me all of the atheists are going to really hate modern physics pretty soon. lol
@JohananRaatz Well, the Australian Aborigines call our lives "Dreamtime" and although I like the way it sounds it is very difficult to define a dream-reality that we experience.
I think that the word simulation fits better and I am not saying that we are brains in vats. I believe that the Universe is a calculated, digital simulation (thus everything is quantized) but the means of achieving this may be beyond the scope of our minds.
@immortalis1001 "The reality is smeared allover the place until you "solidify" it. Double slit experiment shows this."
Nah. It doesn't demonstrate any connection with consciousness. It demonstrates that measurements impact results(Or that "existing things interact" if you will). Not that reality never gets actualized if conscious individuals aren't looking.
@Gnomefro If you wish to more know about this subject please read a book called "Quantum Enigma : Physics Encounters Consciousness" (I have very little space here to fully support my argument here and the book above is one of many, many books that examine this subject).
This assertion is made not based only on DSE but as a part of a larger puzzle. See, measurement is not synonymous with observing. You can measure something store it and if not observed it is in superposition...sorry no space left
@ArcadeGames I think the sound-waves exist but its only interpreted as a sound to a conscious experience whose brain has evolved to make sense of mere information therefore the sound doesn't exist until a conscious listener interprets it.
Of course the big bang is caused by the concurrent operation of the laws of nature -- see my video #15. Information is a representation of reality. Information about the brain is not the brain. Neural data is not discrete data. It is physically impossible to stimulate every neuron as you suggest. Consciousness is not information. It is us being a subject knowing information. Peace, Dennis
Our dreams are most certainly a simulation and feel just as real as reality, should the dreamer wish it. If we're going to explain everything in one theory, then we must also explain what the dream world is, why it is the way it is, and why it can be just as real as waking life. This is something that's difficult to explain in quantum physics, I imagine it's not so hard to explain in digital physics and might even be a strong point for the theory.
"There'd be no way for you to tell the difference."
Yes there would, it's called a reality check. When we're asleep some of our senses are disabled, however we still recieve information as if those senses are being stimulated, in our dreams. Sometimes it's hard to distnguish between a dream from reality, but those who train them selves can, and can even retain conciousness throughout the entirety of the experience.
the fact that one can digitally code elements of reality doesn't mean that reality is digital codes. This is a computer scientists view. Just like for a psycologist everything is psycology and for a physicist everything is physics.. For a dog everything is smell....
Good video ! Leo Susskind recently said that the mathematics arising from the 3D Holographic Universe Principle is used in quantum calculation, across the board. It seems we are part of a Hologram,or a Holomovement. [Bohm]. Information arising from a deeper level, creating and maintaining our Reality. It seems it is all so much more marvelous than we could ever have hoped.
The double slit experiment? oh you are a fucking moron, tell me how the double slit experiment proves reality its a computer simulation? You can't lol.
Ok I think I have wasted enough time on you, read about the DSE and ask yourself the logical questions, something that you have absolutely no idea about but still run around the internet making bullshit up to suit the bullshit you have been told. You're done, back to schooltube for you.
Reality is Metaphor, Metaphor is Simulation, Simulation is Dream, Dream is Consciousness, Consciousness is Information. What is Information? Information is What. What is What? I is I? Thou Art That...
My own theory of everything is simply that the universe was created from "super-infinite material".
To describe this: imagine if i gave you a bowl containing this material, you will see it change into anything: cars,planes, universes, goats, suns planets etc etc(pure chaos).
basically because it is infinite is has infinite probability is infinity in size and time.
Thus there naturally would be an infinite number of universes too.
Interesting concept, no stranger than what physics currently postulates (multiple dimensions & the curled up unseeable dimensions of string theory!).
Either the universe is deterministic, discreet & therefore knowable & probably simulated or non deterministic & infinite so therefore fundamentally unknowable!
Materialists argument leads to God (the programmer of this computational universe) how ironic!
@Appertunity "Materialists argument leads to God (the programmer of this computational universe) how ironic!"
The only irony is that you didn't begin to understand the argument being presented. We know that our subjective experience of reality is a reconstruction, or a simulation if you will, that happens in human brains. However, this does not mean that no external reality exists, or that reality is programmed. In fact, by studying human brains we can know what the basis for our experience is.
@Appertunity Evolutionary mechanisms produce brains, not gods, and when you have brains there is nothing left to explain with regards to this simulation argument.
Also, the attributes you assign to your deterministic and indeterministic seem completely random, making the dichotomy false in all likelihood. In particular, current physics seem to suggest a third option, where determinism and non-determinism coexist in a way that allows the universe to be knowable.
No one says that nothing caused the big bang. Except from some fundamentalist christians trying a strawman, perhaps. The position is that we don't know whether there was something causing the big bang and if, what it was.
@trakkaton The wave-function of the universe doesn't have physical units of its own, so is technically outside of the "physical universe."
Once it self-collapsed via Orch-OR (since there were no particles yet to measure and collapse it the regular way) it produced the first observable information thus starting off the physical universe.
Penrose's colleague Hameroff discusses it here, it's called "the Big Wow":
I think NASA needs to advertise a vacant job slot in the newspaper. Someone has been watching "The Matrix" too much, there is a reason its called Sci-fi, emphasis on the "fi" part. Imagination is useful until it becomes counter productive. Reality seems like a simulation because "simulations" mimic reality, not the other way around, jeez!
@SpiritMolecule1 And here is me thinking you were joking, accept the fact that fiction is just fiction, and philosophy has been trying to answer the question of reality for thousands of years. But one guy talking about "metaphysics" does it for you? Well I am glad you found an ass to bury your head up. the matrix? lol don't reply to me again you baboon.
@123backinyerface baboon is your middle name you stupid garbage creature, its a FACT that our reality is data just like explained in the matrix movie, are you that fucking stupid to not understand this?? obviously you are
@SpiritMolecule1 What did I tell you? Now go and play with your sonic the hedgehog game or something, if you stare at it hard enough, it may just come to life and sonic can be your friend, your only friend.
@SpiritMolecule1 Now don't be pathetic, I am not the one making any kind of "claim: on what reality is. So the burden of proof is on you, not me. So you will have to tell me why you think "the Matrix" is EXACTLY like reality? Tell me how a "virtual world" is exactly like reality when the word in question is "virtual". Have you ever been "virtually" laid before? its not actually the same as getting laid huh? Whats the difference? one is real and the other is not. Now go away and play.
@SpiritMolecule1 You have a nerve calling anyone an idiot, its not fact you moron. Its a philosophical question with no answer so do yourself a favor and just shut the fuck up, and then grow up...Neo lol
@SpiritMolecule1 Virtual reality exists from the perception of human beings not the other way around. You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped your momma in front of you. Now stop being such a fucking child and go away.
@123backinyerface explain how this reality ISNT just data and electrical signals, EXPLAIN or just shut up cause you are making yourself look like a jackass.
@SpiritMolecule1 No no, like I said its you who has to prove that it isn't real, you are making the claim. So stop asking me to give you points to refute. You have to explain to me why nothing is real. Facts are testable, and you keep saying "its a fact", so then prove it? Just saying the brain uses tiny electrical impulses does not mean everything is a simulation, it just means the brain uses tiny electrical impulses, that's all.
So if this is a simulation, who or what is controlling it?
@123backinyerface dude how old are you? 12? its a fact that its a computer simulation, your whole reality is just data interpreted by the senses, its a simple fact. When you look at a car for example, you think that car fits in your head at the size it seems to be? no, its just data that is put together as an image inside your head, its like a video game. I dont know who controls it, something much superior than us.
@SpiritMolecule1 How many people walk out into a road listening to their iPod and get mangled by a truck? If they were completely unaware of the truck then for them the truck didn't exist, it was simply unprocessed, unperceived "data". So how did they die?
You need to stop watching "what if" videos and start asking the hard questions, like why you are so gullible. Try an internet search for "Logic", and don't just read it, try and understand it.
@SpiritMolecule1 You haven't asked a question. All you have done is assume you know the answer to a question that is nothing more than a philosophical dead end. There is no answer that you will accept past your system of belief.
How do I perceive reality? by sensing what is already there, and was there before I was born and will still be there after I am dead. I think you have "opened your mind" to the extent that your brain has fallen out. Without proof all you have is a belief.
@123backinyerface how do you explain the double slit experiment? how do you explain that reality is just data? you cant, stop making a fool of yourself
@123backinyerface@SpiritMolecule1 I'm entertained by the squabble between you two. However I'm inclined towards SpiritMolecules' assumption that the universe is in fact a simulation. This is simply a matter of probability; although one that begs to ask where is the origin universe or can an origin-verse exist; simulated reality may be a stepping ladder of sorts ad infinitum. In this case every new set of conscious observers are the children of "God" and God themselves. Quite a paradox. =}
@Raelsatu SpiritMolecules has been lured by the fantasy of a better world, universe or "reality" because he/she cannot handle actual reality. People with involuntary mental disorders will create their own world in order to hide their fears. The sad part is he/she is fully capable of accepting reality but yet still favors the fantasy, i.e. escapism.
Its just religion repackaged and served, to the starved. If you're are also inclined that way, then you too will eat anything served up to you.
@123backinyerface No. Even if this were a simulated reality it would still essentially be "reality" because either of the two are indistinguishable and virtually interchangeable. Those that are philosophical and use cognition as a tool have been labeled as crazy throughout history, but the truth is that we're in a better place than you. If it comforts you to believe 'reality' is 4 dimensions coming into existence for no reason, from nothing, and spawning conscious life at random.. have at it.
@123backinyerface I find it strange that you've had no real intellectual input, just some childish insults and shallow presumptions of mental stability. That's why I usually don't argue with people like you. Might as well be trying to debate string theory with a 'Cleverbot'. Good-luck finding the truth with that linear, boxed-in brain of yours.
@Raelsatu Well the second you present the slightest bit of evidence to suggest that reality is computer generated, I'll entertain it for you, but until then I will have to say that imaginative scenarios, religious philosophies and of course science fiction are not going to cut it.
People like me? Oh you mean the people that wait for evidence, yeah sure I can see why you don't argue with those kinds of people, too much hard work for you I guess. Better just to daydream life away huh?
@123backinyerface YT is character restrictive and I can't cite all the 'evidence', but seeing as you're coming from an empiricist mindset and I'm predominantly a rationalist, it's hard to completely understand each-other. First off, do your research on SR and its probability. Do a search for simulated reality+USU and there's a great discussion going on there with different thoughts/questions. I'm not saying this is fact, but it's certainly a sound, viable theory; & nothing supernatural about it.
@Raelsatu The discussion of virtual reality and its philosophical implications have been around for a long time, I do not need to "google" my way to an opinion, that I have held longer than you have been alive. "Rationalist"? that would be quite funny if I wasn't already so bored. Have another reply on me and then please, don't contact me again with this nonsense.
@123backinyerface I'm not going to bother with any more long-winded replies because it's clear you're stuck in close-mindedness. You may be older than me but what does that mean? By that logic all the Christians older than you must have the most viable opinion. Concluding, you've regurgitated the same atheist drivel "pics or it didn't happen"; which I find intellectually underwhelming and quite boring. Good-day.
@ManitasArriba Not necessarily, at-least not relative to each hierarchy of consciousness. In a way it seems like it could be a naturally occurring milestone in the development of any civilizations(s) that perpetuates the cycle. We may spawn simulated realities for research purposes, for example observing the evolution of consciousness over time to see how they react and adapt to the environment & advance spiritually/technologically. It could also be an escape means for artist/adventurers.
@Raelsatu The music in this video is what I listen to when I masturbate while playing Tetris, so fuck off and move out your parents' house and get a girlfriend and get a job... ;-)
@SpiritMolecule1 No, they're chemical signals. And reality isn't data but information. OK, prove that so-called fact "world is a computer simulation". I'm waiting...
@Vlakpage is it hard for you to understand this simple fact? when you view a building what is happening? you just see an interpretation of data and that gets to be an image inside your head, its all data, its so simple to understand, i dont understand how you dont get it.
@SpiritMolecule1 Haha, you still evade my question to prove "the world is a computer simulation, fact". Either you don't believe it anymore or you have no arguments and it's not fact at all.
What we perceive is reality, that's right, but whether it's computer simulation, somebody's wild dream or just plain old reality is completely different hypothesis.
The proponents of reality-from-consciousness theories forget one major thing:
Human consciousness would never have come into existence if particles had not PREVIOUSLY coalesced into stars, galaxies, planets THEN brains. So, what came first? Who was observing before brains and minds? They'll claim... "God". OK, prove it! Next they'll claim, "Not necessary. Forget cosmic evolution; it didn't happen. Stars, galaxies, planets and brains were created whole."
@BigMTBrain im not for or against any idea!! The problem with reason is reason itself, need proof and justification, just like people asked Christopher Columbus How the earth was round and not flat ,,using the idea that you would fall off a round earth......Beleve me we don,t know nothing yet!! and some ancient cultures did, but it,s hard to grasp their expanations for Consciuosness like " if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there.Does it makes a sound?? it All depends on who is asking!
@mate6mty - (part 1) He knew from simple observation and examination: Out at sea, unobstructed by varying land features, he was able to see that the far horizon was curved in every direction that he looked. Likewise, by examining inanimate objects as well as comparing lower, not-so-conscious life-forms to higher, conscious life-forms, it is clear that brains and consciousness developed from evolution of the elements. Those elements HAD to come first and had to evolve first BEFORE consciousness.
@mate6mty - (part 2) I love the "wisdom of the ancients" stuff that people throw about as if the idea that the ancients had some special insights is any less speculative than any other claim. If you enjoy "believing" that way, by all means, continue to enjoy doing so; it's purely your choice. However, for minds that more enjoy looking at things in terms of how they manifest in reality, and would rather "know" than "believe", reasoned and rational examination is much more satisfying and fruitful.
You mean that human brains are susceptible to replay attacks? Oh no! Let's hope that humans 2.0 include a cryptographic handshake between them and the universe.
The reality I'm in now now now remembered the illusion I Just had a second ago, which will guide me to the illusion I desire for my near future plannnn:::::::::wait it's commingggg.
what we perceive with our limited senses is not reality at all,sights and sounds, at best, can serve but to recall the memory that lies beyond them all.
this is what i think. That BECAUSE man has made computer technology now he tries to make out his consciousness, the universe, and all of reality is based on these principles. But I see this is a trap --a pattern i have seen other past thinkers fall in--they are limited by what they think they know as is current 'state of the art'--OR what is ALLOWED to be current state of the art, because there exists a lot of dogma in 'science'!
you brain controls your body, you control your brain, BUT..... what controls you?!?
blindedby2monkeys 14 hours ago
You should bring more attention to 'what are you if you do not experience anything'.
Then you would know that you are not data, but being able to experience & interpret data.
Which does not necessarily mean, that reality is data. It COULD mean, that our interpretation of reality is data. Well, at least I prefer that point of view.
ballaststoffel2 4 days ago
If thats the case then why do we die? We should then live forever right? wtf
thrasher102374 5 days ago
@thesololobo.
The folks who are actually in control of it all.
CraigMrScott 1 week ago
this is some kick ass youtube philosophizing!
constructivist6 1 week ago
Question is- if this is a virtual reality, what is then the ultimate reality?
TheSololobo 2 weeks ago
@TheSololobo Just because our universe is causal does not mean that the collective set of all realities must also be. One possible solution to this mess is that there are an infinite number of universes which are all derived from higher ones. This "solution" creates more questions than it does answers and I by no means know the ultimate answer to the one question that should not be answered: "Why do we exist?" so, feel free to imagine your own ideas and to share them with me or anyone really...
AnalyticalInsanity 1 week ago
@AnalyticalInsanity- Or our calculations could be wrong. Might we be simply getting ahead of ourselves, theorizing and speculating on a limited amount of data thus following the wrong lead. Are our conceptualizations adequate representations of phenomena?
TheSololobo 1 week ago
@TheSololobo That was not speculated based on data--only logic.
AnalyticalInsanity 1 week ago
@TheSololobo light, energy, force. where energy enters our world and propels matter, in the mother universe energy is all and the energy that propels our physical body and physical matter will pop out of this universe when we die, and pop into this universe as things are born and created and culminated in the proper proportions and sequences. Everything you see is energy, propulsion.
DontLeaveMeLucile 3 days ago
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@TheSololobo "if this is a virtual reality, what is then the ultimate reality?"
Well the strange thing is that if a parent reality is simulating us it too must have this weird kind of physics due to the nature of quantum information storage (which is exponentially more compact than classical info storage). Giving us only one remaining explanation for ultimate reality: watch?v=ELxupWHZnOE
JohananRaatz 1 day ago
The best theory of how the universe came to be from nothing is contained in the book
“The Answer to 42”. It is simple to understand, and the answer is based in science, and
mathematics. The description is not a cheat, it starts from when the universe had no
material in it at all! It also describes the true nature of the universe, but it is not based
on any religion. It can be found on Lulu.com. It was written by Ronald von Mitchel. Enjoy!
rvm429111 2 weeks ago
I like big butts.
TheSololobo 3 weeks ago
@TheSololobo i like big tits.
DarkDevistation5176 2 weeks ago
yes i agree there are lots of sound theories but there may be not evidence to back them up 100% ,are you talking about " P Brains" ? if p brains exist in any sense then its safe to say that they might be more dense or odder membrains like layers of an onion. ;"D
manaxaus 3 weeks ago
Oh, everyone knows what caused the big bang! Someone sneezed! And the infection has been spreading since. ^_^
Nekokittybird 3 weeks ago
google sumit did a NEW report on what caused the big bang and what is beyond the big bang. so we have a good idea because of the current numbers. we know the space out side of out bubble once the time of creation happend is a super dense number, we know it's half of what it used to be. so the theory is that the super dense energy pinched off a super dense part of its self as it was to heavy to maintain the dense number. this starts around 10/11 dimensional plans. it helps if you just read info.
manaxaus 3 weeks ago
@manaxaus Also, the string theorists think that different dimensions "membranes" or "branes" collided and that is what caused the big bang. At this point there is just speculation on top of speculation. I do not think that we will ever know for sure.
immortalis1001 3 weeks ago
Who the hell says there was "no cause" for the Big Bang... Last I heard, we just don't know what caused it yet. Thats why we still study it. You know the whole "science marches on" thing.
NeroJoe83 1 month ago
Philosophy over a NES soundtrack. 40 years from, lols
Donsknotts 1 month ago 2
@Donsknotts LOL
kahetel13 1 month ago
Stupid music
RadicalAwesomeness 1 month ago
Lose the nasty music.
SmoothCinnamonX 1 month ago
So how come my dreams aren’t real? When dreaming, isn’t the brain using electrical signals to trick us into thinking like when we are awake? I’m sure most people had that I’m late for work dream only to have it repeat three times before you really woke up. You swore it felt so real. How can my brain come up with, in detail, things I’ve never seen before when I’m dreaming? Things I can’t even think up when I’m awake. It’s like dreaming is a sub-simulation within a simulation.
Singerjoy 1 month ago
@Singerjoy Your dreams ARE real. As real as anything else. The reason for them being so unique and strange is because you aren't conscious; you aren't inhibited. Your mind is working without the "structure" that it has when you're awake; you don't think in terms of what you "know" to be real. You just think. Denying the reality of dreams is denying the reality of thought, which is ultimately all that exists. Reality is relative.
Earo16 1 month ago
kiss my ass!!!!
kachetil 1 month ago
Is Brian Whitworth's analysis of two possible truths flawed? Doesn't the computed reality scenario make more assumptions by default simply because we know that the universe described by the laws of physics does exist? To be apart of a computer simulation, not only would this universe have to exist (in a stream of data), but there would also have to be some unknown reason why a computer would initiate such a virtual world.
ONLYBESTVlDEOSFORYOU 1 month ago
The statement "This reality is just data" is rendered meaningless when he then goes on to talk about photons hitting your retinas. By claiming the existence of something such as a retina he is admitting that there is a physical object that can transmit data. He can't reduce "reality" to mean the sum of a person's perception because there are things that exist independently of that person.
Hermey7777 1 month ago
@Hermey7777 When you run a simulation of 2 cars crashing into each other neither car "exists", yet 1000s of parts interact following "physical" rules as the crash is calculated. If you were inside this simulation those 2 cars would be very real to you, as would be your body parts. You see, the problem is that being inside the system makes you part of that system. What does a video game character know about you? You are totally beyond his ability to comprehend and getting out of the video game.
immortalis1001 1 month ago
Good info. The arcade game, electronica sounds are very irratating!
Sexyrealraphead 1 month ago
Wonder who is programming the data?
acdeucee 1 month ago
@acdeucee I am. good to meet you
alistairproductions 1 month ago
I love digital physics!
TheWayshowerTube 2 months ago
So God is some fat programmer as our substrate. Nice. I wondering if he's looking at 8th dimensional rimjob porn on his 8th dimensional Dell.
20YearsAndAWakeup 2 months ago
but what you seem to forget dear friend is something called 'brain damage' external events CAN permanently affect consciousness
nurbSoldier 2 months ago
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What is the name of the song in this video?
corruptorCEREBRUM 2 months ago
you forgot taste
Oggestaden 2 months ago
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@Oggestaden What is the name of the song in this video?
corruptorCEREBRUM 2 months ago
Kind of reminds me of the old saying, if a tree falls in a forrest, and nobody is around, does it still make a sound?
ArcadeGames 3 months ago
@ArcadeGames The answer is YES. It does make a sound.
Mick0722MX 2 months ago
@Mick0722MX What is the name of the song in this video?
corruptorCEREBRUM 2 months ago
@corruptorCEREBRUM I don't know. I never heard it before.
Mick0722MX 2 months ago
@corruptorCEREBRUM there is no song in this video
jimmythegentify 2 months ago
@Mick0722MX Actually following the Quantum model and the Copenhagen Interpretation if there are no conscious observers then the wave function of the tree never collapses thus the tree has not fallen until it has been observed.
If you listen to Thomas Campbell (the speaker in this video) his answer is that there is no forest, there is no tree until it is "rendered" by a conscious observer.
The reality is smeared allover the place until you "solidify" it. Double slit experiment shows this.
immortalis1001 2 months ago
@immortalis1001 So it's more like a dream than a simulation as such. The physics in a dream be the same though since it's also based on information processing, so it wouldn't matter I guess.
Something tells me all of the atheists are going to really hate modern physics pretty soon. lol
JohananRaatz 1 month ago
@JohananRaatz Well, the Australian Aborigines call our lives "Dreamtime" and although I like the way it sounds it is very difficult to define a dream-reality that we experience.
I think that the word simulation fits better and I am not saying that we are brains in vats. I believe that the Universe is a calculated, digital simulation (thus everything is quantized) but the means of achieving this may be beyond the scope of our minds.
Religion=garbage
Superior mind beyond this universe=possibility
immortalis1001 1 month ago
@immortalis1001 "The reality is smeared allover the place until you "solidify" it. Double slit experiment shows this."
Nah. It doesn't demonstrate any connection with consciousness. It demonstrates that measurements impact results(Or that "existing things interact" if you will). Not that reality never gets actualized if conscious individuals aren't looking.
Gnomefro 1 month ago
@Gnomefro If you wish to more know about this subject please read a book called "Quantum Enigma : Physics Encounters Consciousness" (I have very little space here to fully support my argument here and the book above is one of many, many books that examine this subject).
This assertion is made not based only on DSE but as a part of a larger puzzle. See, measurement is not synonymous with observing. You can measure something store it and if not observed it is in superposition...sorry no space left
immortalis1001 1 month ago
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@ArcadeGames What is the name of the song in this video?
corruptorCEREBRUM 2 months ago
@ArcadeGames I think the sound-waves exist but its only interpreted as a sound to a conscious experience whose brain has evolved to make sense of mere information therefore the sound doesn't exist until a conscious listener interprets it.
deanmullen10 2 months ago
So if another stream of data sticks a knife in u do u go unconcious to the black void for REAL. Or do we wake up to the REAL REALITY.
cfrancisco74 3 months ago
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@cfrancisco74 What is the name of the song in this video?
corruptorCEREBRUM 2 months ago
May I know the name of the music playing in the background?
Lizzardman666 3 months ago
may be a good vid, but until the music is chopped out i'll never know
ezpkns34 3 months ago
that just proves that god does not know that he is. . he is the energy , as are we. see how it all ties together. - bentgenius wild science theories.
bentgenius1 4 months ago
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@bentgenius1 Umm, can you please get a job and a girlfriend? (",)
corruptorCEREBRUM 4 months ago
How do we know consciousness has anything to do with anything?
Could all just be the brain.
14sJakeB190 4 months ago
@14sJakeB190 Stop consuming LSD then you wouldn't be having these thoughts...
corruptorCEREBRUM 4 months ago
@corruptorCEREBRUM If anything that would cause thoughts that we do have a consciousness.
14sJakeB190 4 months ago
The music is annoying
wrcousert 4 months ago
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@wrcousert Fuck off idiot, get a girlfriend.
corruptorCEREBRUM 4 months ago
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@wrcousert This is the music I listen to when I fuck your mother while playing Pac Man...
corruptorCEREBRUM 4 months ago
Of course the big bang is caused by the concurrent operation of the laws of nature -- see my video #15. Information is a representation of reality. Information about the brain is not the brain. Neural data is not discrete data. It is physically impossible to stimulate every neuron as you suggest. Consciousness is not information. It is us being a subject knowing information. Peace, Dennis
dfpolis 4 months ago
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corruptorCEREBRUM 4 months ago
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Our dreams are most certainly a simulation and feel just as real as reality, should the dreamer wish it. If we're going to explain everything in one theory, then we must also explain what the dream world is, why it is the way it is, and why it can be just as real as waking life. This is something that's difficult to explain in quantum physics, I imagine it's not so hard to explain in digital physics and might even be a strong point for the theory.
fmgaluda 5 months ago
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corruptorCEREBRUM 4 months ago
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2:55
"There'd be no way for you to tell the difference."
Yes there would, it's called a reality check. When we're asleep some of our senses are disabled, however we still recieve information as if those senses are being stimulated, in our dreams. Sometimes it's hard to distnguish between a dream from reality, but those who train them selves can, and can even retain conciousness throughout the entirety of the experience.
fmgaluda 5 months ago
The World as Will and Representation ;)
LoveNeverCeases 5 months ago
Loved this video ^^
BoJiKl 5 months ago
Big bang has a cause now, you need to update your clip.
DeMause 6 months ago
if this is basicly a video game someone needs to figure out the damn cheat codes
awesumr 6 months ago
@awesumr lol
JS1989RENEWED 6 months ago
added to favorites!
meadorni 6 months ago
the fact that one can digitally code elements of reality doesn't mean that reality is digital codes. This is a computer scientists view. Just like for a psycologist everything is psycology and for a physicist everything is physics.. For a dog everything is smell....
stikowsky 7 months ago
too bad about the ad flashing across the screen, unusable.
SuperSwanDive 7 months ago
hhm sounds reasonable...wait !!! by the way: DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF FOR THAT ALL??
DerMacDuff 7 months ago
Dislodge your perception from newtonian mechanics and go quantum.
teched246 7 months ago
Good video ! Leo Susskind recently said that the mathematics arising from the 3D Holographic Universe Principle is used in quantum calculation, across the board. It seems we are part of a Hologram,or a Holomovement. [Bohm]. Information arising from a deeper level, creating and maintaining our Reality. It seems it is all so much more marvelous than we could ever have hoped.
brianjsmith1895 7 months ago
The double slit experiment? oh you are a fucking moron, tell me how the double slit experiment proves reality its a computer simulation? You can't lol.
Ok I think I have wasted enough time on you, read about the DSE and ask yourself the logical questions, something that you have absolutely no idea about but still run around the internet making bullshit up to suit the bullshit you have been told. You're done, back to schooltube for you.
Wake up Neo, the bullshit has you XD,
123backinyerface 8 months ago
Reality is Metaphor, Metaphor is Simulation, Simulation is Dream, Dream is Consciousness, Consciousness is Information. What is Information? Information is What. What is What? I is I? Thou Art That...
HoloplexProductions 9 months ago
My own theory of everything is simply that the universe was created from "super-infinite material".
To describe this: imagine if i gave you a bowl containing this material, you will see it change into anything: cars,planes, universes, goats, suns planets etc etc(pure chaos).
basically because it is infinite is has infinite probability is infinity in size and time.
Thus there naturally would be an infinite number of universes too.
It requires no creator or supervision.
MDEMONIC689 9 months ago
Interesting concept, no stranger than what physics currently postulates (multiple dimensions & the curled up unseeable dimensions of string theory!).
Either the universe is deterministic, discreet & therefore knowable & probably simulated or non deterministic & infinite so therefore fundamentally unknowable!
Materialists argument leads to God (the programmer of this computational universe) how ironic!
Appertunity 9 months ago
@Appertunity "Materialists argument leads to God (the programmer of this computational universe) how ironic!"
The only irony is that you didn't begin to understand the argument being presented. We know that our subjective experience of reality is a reconstruction, or a simulation if you will, that happens in human brains. However, this does not mean that no external reality exists, or that reality is programmed. In fact, by studying human brains we can know what the basis for our experience is.
Gnomefro 8 months ago
@Appertunity Evolutionary mechanisms produce brains, not gods, and when you have brains there is nothing left to explain with regards to this simulation argument.
Also, the attributes you assign to your deterministic and indeterministic seem completely random, making the dichotomy false in all likelihood. In particular, current physics seem to suggest a third option, where determinism and non-determinism coexist in a way that allows the universe to be knowable.
Gnomefro 8 months ago
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
Hamlet
"Now my own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose."
JBS Haldane
JossJossJoss1 9 months ago
No one says that nothing caused the big bang. Except from some fundamentalist christians trying a strawman, perhaps. The position is that we don't know whether there was something causing the big bang and if, what it was.
trakkaton 10 months ago
@trakkaton A Universal Orch-OR event in the wave-function of the universe caused the universe at the Big Bang.
JohananRaatz 1 month ago
@JohananRaatz
What you are claiming is that the universe caused the universe.
trakkaton 1 month ago
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JohananRaatz 1 month ago
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@trakkaton The wave-function of the universe doesn't have physical units of its own, so is technically outside of the "physical universe."
Once it self-collapsed via Orch-OR (since there were no particles yet to measure and collapse it the regular way) it produced the first observable information thus starting off the physical universe.
Penrose's colleague Hameroff discusses it here, it's called "the Big Wow":
(9:30 to end) watch?v=OEpUIcOodnM
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(0:00-0:10) watch?v=6kQYPSD6t6c
JohananRaatz 1 month ago
I think NASA needs to advertise a vacant job slot in the newspaper. Someone has been watching "The Matrix" too much, there is a reason its called Sci-fi, emphasis on the "fi" part. Imagination is useful until it becomes counter productive. Reality seems like a simulation because "simulations" mimic reality, not the other way around, jeez!
123backinyerface 1 year ago
@123backinyerface you arent too bright are you? what he is saying in this video is a FACT! its just like the matrix you dummy
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 "its just like the matrix you dummy", wow you should try and keep those thoughts to yourself, lol.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface it is like the matrix, thats a fact, accept it
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 And here is me thinking you were joking, accept the fact that fiction is just fiction, and philosophy has been trying to answer the question of reality for thousands of years. But one guy talking about "metaphysics" does it for you? Well I am glad you found an ass to bury your head up. the matrix? lol don't reply to me again you baboon.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface baboon is your middle name you stupid garbage creature, its a FACT that our reality is data just like explained in the matrix movie, are you that fucking stupid to not understand this?? obviously you are
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 What did I tell you? Now go and play with your sonic the hedgehog game or something, if you stare at it hard enough, it may just come to life and sonic can be your friend, your only friend.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface you are just STUPID! explain how this world isnt like the matrix, explain it IDIOT!
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 Now don't be pathetic, I am not the one making any kind of "claim: on what reality is. So the burden of proof is on you, not me. So you will have to tell me why you think "the Matrix" is EXACTLY like reality? Tell me how a "virtual world" is exactly like reality when the word in question is "virtual". Have you ever been "virtually" laid before? its not actually the same as getting laid huh? Whats the difference? one is real and the other is not. Now go away and play.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface stupid jackass, the world is a computer simulation, fact
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 You have a nerve calling anyone an idiot, its not fact you moron. Its a philosophical question with no answer so do yourself a favor and just shut the fuck up, and then grow up...Neo lol
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface its a FACT fucktard, how the fuck do you think we precieve reality? its just data, electrical signals, how stupid are you?
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 Virtual reality exists from the perception of human beings not the other way around. You wouldn't know a fact if it slapped your momma in front of you. Now stop being such a fucking child and go away.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface reality is just data and the world is a computer simulation, its a fact kid
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 So your MO is just to repeat the word "fact" and that automatically makes it one?
If your are wondering why your brain hurts, the answer is, "Because you've never used it before"...lmmfao XD
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface explain how this reality ISNT just data and electrical signals, EXPLAIN or just shut up cause you are making yourself look like a jackass.
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 No no, like I said its you who has to prove that it isn't real, you are making the claim. So stop asking me to give you points to refute. You have to explain to me why nothing is real. Facts are testable, and you keep saying "its a fact", so then prove it? Just saying the brain uses tiny electrical impulses does not mean everything is a simulation, it just means the brain uses tiny electrical impulses, that's all.
So if this is a simulation, who or what is controlling it?
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface dude how old are you? 12? its a fact that its a computer simulation, your whole reality is just data interpreted by the senses, its a simple fact. When you look at a car for example, you think that car fits in your head at the size it seems to be? no, its just data that is put together as an image inside your head, its like a video game. I dont know who controls it, something much superior than us.
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 How many people walk out into a road listening to their iPod and get mangled by a truck? If they were completely unaware of the truck then for them the truck didn't exist, it was simply unprocessed, unperceived "data". So how did they die?
You need to stop watching "what if" videos and start asking the hard questions, like why you are so gullible. Try an internet search for "Logic", and don't just read it, try and understand it.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface you didnt answer, how do you percieve reality? it IS just data that comes into your senses, just like a video game
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 You haven't asked a question. All you have done is assume you know the answer to a question that is nothing more than a philosophical dead end. There is no answer that you will accept past your system of belief.
How do I perceive reality? by sensing what is already there, and was there before I was born and will still be there after I am dead. I think you have "opened your mind" to the extent that your brain has fallen out. Without proof all you have is a belief.
123backinyerface 8 months ago
@123backinyerface how do you explain the double slit experiment? how do you explain that reality is just data? you cant, stop making a fool of yourself
SpiritMolecule1 8 months ago
@123backinyerface @SpiritMolecule1 I'm entertained by the squabble between you two. However I'm inclined towards SpiritMolecules' assumption that the universe is in fact a simulation. This is simply a matter of probability; although one that begs to ask where is the origin universe or can an origin-verse exist; simulated reality may be a stepping ladder of sorts ad infinitum. In this case every new set of conscious observers are the children of "God" and God themselves. Quite a paradox. =}
Raelsatu 5 months ago
@Raelsatu SpiritMolecules has been lured by the fantasy of a better world, universe or "reality" because he/she cannot handle actual reality. People with involuntary mental disorders will create their own world in order to hide their fears. The sad part is he/she is fully capable of accepting reality but yet still favors the fantasy, i.e. escapism.
Its just religion repackaged and served, to the starved. If you're are also inclined that way, then you too will eat anything served up to you.
123backinyerface 5 months ago
@123backinyerface No. Even if this were a simulated reality it would still essentially be "reality" because either of the two are indistinguishable and virtually interchangeable. Those that are philosophical and use cognition as a tool have been labeled as crazy throughout history, but the truth is that we're in a better place than you. If it comforts you to believe 'reality' is 4 dimensions coming into existence for no reason, from nothing, and spawning conscious life at random.. have at it.
Raelsatu 5 months ago
@Raelsatu Thank you, I and every other sane person on earth will continue do just that, while you take your time growing up.
123backinyerface 5 months ago
@123backinyerface I find it strange that you've had no real intellectual input, just some childish insults and shallow presumptions of mental stability. That's why I usually don't argue with people like you. Might as well be trying to debate string theory with a 'Cleverbot'. Good-luck finding the truth with that linear, boxed-in brain of yours.
Raelsatu 5 months ago
@Raelsatu Well the second you present the slightest bit of evidence to suggest that reality is computer generated, I'll entertain it for you, but until then I will have to say that imaginative scenarios, religious philosophies and of course science fiction are not going to cut it.
People like me? Oh you mean the people that wait for evidence, yeah sure I can see why you don't argue with those kinds of people, too much hard work for you I guess. Better just to daydream life away huh?
123backinyerface 5 months ago
@123backinyerface YT is character restrictive and I can't cite all the 'evidence', but seeing as you're coming from an empiricist mindset and I'm predominantly a rationalist, it's hard to completely understand each-other. First off, do your research on SR and its probability. Do a search for simulated reality+USU and there's a great discussion going on there with different thoughts/questions. I'm not saying this is fact, but it's certainly a sound, viable theory; & nothing supernatural about it.
Raelsatu 5 months ago
@Raelsatu The discussion of virtual reality and its philosophical implications have been around for a long time, I do not need to "google" my way to an opinion, that I have held longer than you have been alive. "Rationalist"? that would be quite funny if I wasn't already so bored. Have another reply on me and then please, don't contact me again with this nonsense.
123backinyerface 5 months ago
@123backinyerface I'm not going to bother with any more long-winded replies because it's clear you're stuck in close-mindedness. You may be older than me but what does that mean? By that logic all the Christians older than you must have the most viable opinion. Concluding, you've regurgitated the same atheist drivel "pics or it didn't happen"; which I find intellectually underwhelming and quite boring. Good-day.
Raelsatu 5 months ago
@Raelsatu Umm wouldnt it be too redundant to create a simulated reality on this "reality"(What we live) as you say?
ManitasArriba 5 months ago
@ManitasArriba Not necessarily, at-least not relative to each hierarchy of consciousness. In a way it seems like it could be a naturally occurring milestone in the development of any civilizations(s) that perpetuates the cycle. We may spawn simulated realities for research purposes, for example observing the evolution of consciousness over time to see how they react and adapt to the environment & advance spiritually/technologically. It could also be an escape means for artist/adventurers.
Raelsatu 5 months ago
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@Raelsatu The music in this video is what I listen to when I masturbate while playing Tetris, so fuck off and move out your parents' house and get a girlfriend and get a job... ;-)
corruptorCEREBRUM 4 months ago
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corruptorCEREBRUM 4 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 not a fact since you can't prove it, at most it's theory
Vlakpage 7 months ago
@Vlakpage it IS a fact, how do you think you experience reality? just as this video says, data, electrical signals.
SpiritMolecule1 7 months ago
@SpiritMolecule1 No, they're chemical signals. And reality isn't data but information. OK, prove that so-called fact "world is a computer simulation". I'm waiting...
Vlakpage 7 months ago
@Vlakpage is it hard for you to understand this simple fact? when you view a building what is happening? you just see an interpretation of data and that gets to be an image inside your head, its all data, its so simple to understand, i dont understand how you dont get it.
SpiritMolecule1 7 months ago
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@SpiritMolecule1 Haha, you still evade my question to prove "the world is a computer simulation, fact". Either you don't believe it anymore or you have no arguments and it's not fact at all.
What we perceive is reality, that's right, but whether it's computer simulation, somebody's wild dream or just plain old reality is completely different hypothesis.
Vlakpage 7 months ago
Neurons may not be discrete.
miragezero 1 year ago
This video is a joke.
The proponents of reality-from-consciousness theories forget one major thing:
Human consciousness would never have come into existence if particles had not PREVIOUSLY coalesced into stars, galaxies, planets THEN brains. So, what came first? Who was observing before brains and minds? They'll claim... "God". OK, prove it! Next they'll claim, "Not necessary. Forget cosmic evolution; it didn't happen. Stars, galaxies, planets and brains were created whole."
BigMTBrain 1 year ago
@BigMTBrain im not for or against any idea!! The problem with reason is reason itself, need proof and justification, just like people asked Christopher Columbus How the earth was round and not flat ,,using the idea that you would fall off a round earth......Beleve me we don,t know nothing yet!! and some ancient cultures did, but it,s hard to grasp their expanations for Consciuosness like " if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there.Does it makes a sound?? it All depends on who is asking!
mate6mty 1 year ago
@mate6mty - (part 1) He knew from simple observation and examination: Out at sea, unobstructed by varying land features, he was able to see that the far horizon was curved in every direction that he looked. Likewise, by examining inanimate objects as well as comparing lower, not-so-conscious life-forms to higher, conscious life-forms, it is clear that brains and consciousness developed from evolution of the elements. Those elements HAD to come first and had to evolve first BEFORE consciousness.
BigMTBrain 1 year ago
@mate6mty - (part 2) I love the "wisdom of the ancients" stuff that people throw about as if the idea that the ancients had some special insights is any less speculative than any other claim. If you enjoy "believing" that way, by all means, continue to enjoy doing so; it's purely your choice. However, for minds that more enjoy looking at things in terms of how they manifest in reality, and would rather "know" than "believe", reasoned and rational examination is much more satisfying and fruitful.
BigMTBrain 1 year ago
@mate6mty - (part 3) "I'm not for or against any idea". Would humans have made any progress understanding anything with that approach?
Newton: "AH HA! GRAVITY!!!"
mate6mty: "Um, not so fast there, Sir Isaac... some say that it be fairies that make the earth go 'round."
Einstein: "AH HA! QUANTUM MECHANICS!!!"
mate6mty: "Um, Albert, think again... the ancients ne'er said anything like that."
mate6mty: "We should give equal deference to all ideas, no matter how inane and fruitless."
BigMTBrain 1 year ago
isn't a bit concrete to say it's a digital simulation and not some biotech.
mowmow445 1 year ago
This video is full of falsities and assertions.
Ozmiumic 1 year ago
You mean that human brains are susceptible to replay attacks? Oh no! Let's hope that humans 2.0 include a cryptographic handshake between them and the universe.
smariot 1 year ago
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OddEdges 1 year ago
The reality I'm in now now now remembered the illusion I Just had a second ago, which will guide me to the illusion I desire for my near future plannnn:::::::::wait it's commingggg.
segrum 1 year ago
how do I turn the background music OFF?
segrum 1 year ago
reality what a concept
muckstar23 1 year ago
what we perceive with our limited senses is not reality at all,sights and sounds, at best, can serve but to recall the memory that lies beyond them all.
xeliker 1 year ago
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xeliker 1 year ago
Hell yes.
djchin2 1 year ago
Nice one
nonames123 1 year ago
this is what i think. That BECAUSE man has made computer technology now he tries to make out his consciousness, the universe, and all of reality is based on these principles. But I see this is a trap --a pattern i have seen other past thinkers fall in--they are limited by what they think they know as is current 'state of the art'--OR what is ALLOWED to be current state of the art, because there exists a lot of dogma in 'science'!
zezt 1 year ago