Former Major Jesse Marcel in his own words

[yeehah626]

heyy "In search of", ha,ha!

[OneWorld4us]

Wow !... The truth will come out sooner or later .... here is the prove !.... And the goverment continue trying to fool us !..... spread this all around the world.

[SuperDukeSilver]

@RichieMcCormick1888 what? These aren't the only people supposedly making UFO stuff up. Look op the Phoenix case of 1997. Thousands of people witnessed it. There are now hundreds of these cases where more than hundred people have witnessed UFO's. Sure, there are people profiting from the popularity of the UFO theory, but that doesn't mean it's not true. By that logic every person that has written books about the evolution theory does it for the money...

[RichieMcCormick1888]

look at the claims of bob lazar no what i mean if hes lying.

[ThamelasStormrage]

Here is an eyewitness that is a military officer that was the military officer in charge on the ground. There can be no clearer proof than this that a UFO crashed in New Mexico. This is tantamount to a government confession of the incident.

[RichieMcCormick1888]

@ThamelasStormrage mate its to be more proof worthy alot of folk were making these claims at the time remeber this is when ufos took off where in there prime everyone was talking about them back in that officers day and also very very many people made alot of money with books and stories and press and alsorts even radio .

[OneeyeGlock7]

People, is everybody lying or mistaken about what they have seen all around the world.... ?

[roswellskeptic]

Here is some good information that blows Marcel's story clean out of the water: roswellfordummies.web.com

[roswellskeptic]

@roswellskeptic that is roswellfordummies.webs.com

[Ur2ez4me81]

So were you in the military or was it just your profession that had you in various places around the world?

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I was in the Navy for 20 years. I traveled the world and filled many roles that well prepared me to debate the pros and cons of people like Marcel and other story tellers. It is important to know how the military works and thinks before you decide whether to believe a person's tale or not.

[roswellskeptic]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. What is extraordinary about Roswell is that the people doing the research did not do their homework. They took their witnesses stories as gospel truth and did not lift a finger to verify their stories. It seems that anyone with a tale to tell that supports their version of events is believable. I have noticed that once people start believing they stop thinking. Odd isn't it?

[Ur2ez4me81]

Rendlesham forest incident, Betty & Barney Hill? Betty Cash / Landrum incident. I think these are pretty conclusive incidents. Even though I believe to a point that the Cash incident could have been some kind of top secret test flight you have to wonder...

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I researched the Cash/Landrum incident and found it to be suspect too. I looked at the disrtances and directions on the route they said they took and the time they said it took to drive them it is completely out of whack. And the little boy said he had burns on his back when he was in the car facing forward the whole time. Also, no one else ever reported the huge hole that would have been in the road from the flames coming out of the craft. Stinks to me.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 Rendlesham stinks too. Holt said he heard about the incident when he reported for work in the morning, Thats not how the military works. If there had been any kind of incursion he would have been notified immediately regardless of time of day. Plus he did not seem concerned enough to look into the matter until it happened again. Smells like week old flounder to me ... from an old military man's viewpoint that is.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic Again I'll have to dig a bit deeper on that subject as well but I thought it was reported that same morning, wasn't it Christmas or New years around that time frame?

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I am going to have to read up on it again too. I was quoting from memory and I have not looked into it in a long time.

[troydeancarpenter]

@roswellskeptic Also that Rendlesham story about the binary code seemed pretty fake. If aliens could upload binary images into the brain, they could upload normal text images.

[roswellskeptic]

@troydeancarpenter Yeah ... thats one of those stories that people will believe without thinking twice about simply because there are senior military people involved. I can't imagine what would prompt a colonel to concoct a story like that but in my opinion it is a crock of shit. The military just does not work like that. And of course the people doing the shows are not asking the proper questions to bring all the crap to light.

[burkettquintana]

One of the world's greatest problems is the impossibility of any person searching for the truth on any subject when they believe they already have it.

[Ur2ez4me81]

I believe some are, the ones who obsess about the subject & who are looped & lost in a never ending spiral of conspiracy theories. You actually might know more about this subject then I do, I'm willing to admit that but again just b/c you & I have not had a first hand experience does not mean it does or does not exist. I'm not going to even try to preach to you but in the Bible there are descriptions of UFO's. In Genesis in my opinion goes onto describe something which is non-human...

[Ur2ez4me81]

@Ur2ez4me81 Then we have a story of Alexander the Great who during a battle witnessed "flying shield-like" disks in the sky. Cave paintings, sculptures, other famous paintings depicting UFO's. So this is something which seems to be a part of our history not just the past hundred years or so...

[Ur2ez4me81]

Annie Jacobsen's book area 51uncensored is a continuation of disinformation bought & paid for by the US government who has desperately tried to cover-up UFO's ever since. I would rather believe that aliens had in fact crashed out in the desert than deformed Russian's had on purpose to scare Americans...Unbelievable!

[ROCKETMISSILE1234]

@roswellskeptic: Listen Jackwagon, I already said I'm not going to try to convince the convinceable.You asked for proof of UFO's and I told you how to do it. Twenty years with a Top Secret Clearance doesn't guarantee UFO contact. It just greatly improves it. Had you worked at any of the mentioned bases you probably would have seen your proof.

Are you going to tell me that I didn't see the things I've seen? Oh, and thanks for your service!

[roswellskeptic]

@ROCKETMISSILE1234 Oh hey you are welcome! I have no beef with people who believe in UFO's or anything else. My beef is with Marcel and the Roswell story. If you take Marcel out of the picture then the Roswell story falls apart. Marcel was clearly lying about his role in incident when he started talking in the 70's. Therefore it is clear to me that no space ship crashed in NM in 1947.

[roswellskeptic]

@ROCKETMISSILE1234 BTW ... the name is Fredwagon. Jack was my father.

[roswellskeptic]

Debris from an alien craft would have been classified at the highest possible level. Marcel left a field full of it unguarded, stopped at his house to show some to his family, and 30 years later told the whole world about it. And yet he was never arrested for revealing state secrets,. Neither was his son who was a fill Col in the army. Both men knew security protocols and the penalties for violating them and neither was punished. Sure makes me wonder.

[roswellskeptic]

Many a witness to the Roswell incident claimed that the military threatened them and their families with bodily harm or even death if they ever talked about what they saw. And yet here they are talking about it. "Researchers" like Friedman, Schmidt, Randall, and Berlitz have been blabbing about it for 40 years. So why have none of them been hurt or killed? Why has the military not even asked any of them to stop talking? If they are so intent on covering this up why not act on their threats?

[mejmiller]

I think this guy had a bad rap but then hasn't the gov been hesitant to tell us the tax payers the truth all along.

[sha370z]

jul 1947 and they keep coming back dec 1952 1973 1980 Nov 17 1986 dec 9 1965 mar 13 1997

over and over they must have a base near By .99.9 % of humans are stuck on Earth so

we don't see what going on in space

[MrJeremyThorpe]

Jesse Marcel was a well documented fantasist.

[PitBullsBiteHard]

@MrJeremyThorpe lol, everyone has fantasies.

[ROCKETMISSILE1234]

@roswellskeptic: First of all, I'm not going to try and convince some doubting Thomas jagoff skeptic about what's going on. Most of you Jackwagons wouldn't believe in ET's if one of them walked up and bit you on the Ass! You want proof Numbnuts? Join the military and get a Top Secret Clearance. Then sell your soul to the US Government and go work at the Anthill in CA, Area 51in NV, AUTEC in the Bahamas, or Dulce NM!

[roswellskeptic]

@ROCKETMISSILE1234 I was in the Navy for 20 years and held a top secret clearance. How about you? Why do you feel the need to insult people that you do not agree with? I know how the military works and that is the biggest reason I know Marcel was a liar ... Col Blanchard did not follow established plane crash procedures because he knew there was nothing but junk out there. Look up AAF 62-14 and read it for yourself. You might learn something besides badgering.

[Ur2ez4me81]

We all have to come to agree on the part where Government & our military institutions would have to take specific actions in keeping the public "in the dark" if there was some sort of alien threat. The famous "War of the world" hysteria which scared millions back in the day is the main basis to a cover-up. At times personally I believe it is all a big hoax for some other purpose but honestly I don't know...

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I do not agree. If this was true then all of the governments around the world would censor communications and we would not be seeing programs on UFOs or aliens. It is plain to see (in my opinion anyway) that with all the media attention UFOs have received that people would NOT panic if one were to land in their back yard.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic You would not be shocked if something landed in your backyard, something from another world? The whole Roswell thing that bugs me is the people who say well scientists were working a few hundred miles or so from where this crash happened, maybe it was a cover story for there "black operations..." Why the heck would they announce a "downed-UFO" story & then cover that up with some "weather balloon" story? Would that not draw even more attention?

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I would be shocked. I am even more shocked that anyone would believe it was anything more than mogul debris. It was a misunderstanding from the beginning. Brazel went to town hoping to get the reward for a "flying disk" and that is how it got reported in the paper. If you read the article though, it tells the whole truth, NOT what marcel said was the truth. As I said, Ramey put out the weather balloon story to get the press off his back. I would have too.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic Look I don't actually know what happened, I was not there that day so I go by documentaries, books & other forms of information regarding Roswell. I'm a skeptic myself but just seems to me there is a sense that something big happened back then. I mean why would some of these first hand witnesses make this up in the first place?

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 People love to get on the bandwagon. Did you notice that not a single person came forward until after marcel started talking? And they all said exactly the same thing he did. Its as if an interstellar craft is made of foil, i beams, and has strange writings on it. Have you noticed that not one first hand witness was asked to take a polygraph? And that their stories do not jibe? Marcel himself told at least 3 different accounts of what happened.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic Well if you are warned by men within the military about imprisonment or worse all in the name of national security what would you expect? I'm sure if it was something that really happened most of the people came forward b/c maybe they saw an open door to tell the truth...Who knows for sure but why would someone like Corso put himself & his family on a pedestal for mockery & ridicule? I understand people will do anything for fame & fortune, but come on...

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 Why would people who were warned about imprisonment or worse go on national tv and tell their story? My guess is that they never were warned. As far as Corso is concerned ... he is another liar. His story is so far fetched that it is unreal. There is no way in hell that the military is going to hang on to material for 30 years and then ask a major at the pentagon to analyze it. He is another stage door johnny looking for fortune and glory.

[roswellskeptic]

@roswellskeptic Besides, some of the things that Corso claims to have leaked were patented years before he claimed to even had his hands on them. It is really easy to take a story that is 30 or 40 years old and embellish it. Remember that there is no one alive who can verify his story either. But it all goes back to Marcel. Marcel's story is a lie which means that Corso's story cannot possibly be true. I can show you the document that proves my point.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic Like I said, to someone who has a agenda to discredit the Roswell incident & UFO's in general I find you hard to trust. Since I have no agenda except finding the truth behind this subject I would be willing to see your side of the story & to discuss it with you. I still find it very,very hard to believe that a man of Corso's background would lie the way you are stating. I mean I'm really having a hard time, wait so you do not believe in Aliens or UFO's?

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I am not sure discredit is the right word. I am after the truth. I don't know if people like Friedman and Schmidt are lying to us or really believe what they are saying but they are wrong. Take the time to read their books and analyze their statements and timelines. See how they contradict themselves. Take a good hard look at Marcel's story not from the standpoint of whether Roswell is real or not but whether it could have happened the way he said.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 As I said earlier I have an official AAF document from 1946 that proves my point and proves that Marcel was wrong. How many Roswell witnesses or authors offer any proof at all other than word of mouth? I believe that there is intelligent life on other planets. I do not believe that we are being visited. I have not seen anything that would convince me. I do not rule it out though. I do not think that people who believe in UFOs or aliens are crackpots.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I will give you one example for Corso off the top of my head. The computer microchip was issued a patent by the US Government 5 years before Corso claims that he was handed the stuff to analyze. Was he a time traveler? And besides ... you know was well as I do that if there had been alien materials the military and government would have started reverse engineering it the day they got it. They would not have waited 50 year.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic I don't know I wasn't there but why would he blatantly stick his neck out just to tell a lie. It doesn't add up from a man of his prestige & all the shame & ridicule which would follow...

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I don't know either but that is human nature. People do strange things. Maybe he was going off the deep end or something. All I know is that the truth is that he could not possibly have done the things he claimed to have done. You are free to believe what you wish of course. I am only presenting my thoughts on the issue.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic That's fine & I appreciate your stance on the subject. I guess my final analysis on the subject is that this is either the biggest hoax/myth ever put upon mankind for some rogue reason to distract from something else. Or it is terribly real & factual. I mean some of it does make sense, we were the top military power in the world at the time. When the fear of the unknown becomes a reality, we always seem to do the wrong thing in the heat of the moment.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 And I appreciate your honesty. I realized that it may be unfair of me to call Marcel Sr a liar. He may have been telling his story so long that he truly believed it. That does not make it true though. My belief about Roswell is that people want to believe so badly that they will grasp at every little tidbit of info offered to them without thinking about where it came from. There is a lot of money to made off the story and people like Freidman are doing it.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic I believe it, don't know too much about Freidman personally but I've seen the name show up in the UFO circle. For Corso, I guess I have to read into his claims a bit in detail to get a more honest approach but still his book was a interesting read. The head band part made me laugh a bit b/c of the technology is now starting to come out of the closet...

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 Friedman interviewed Marcel several times so he must have a lot of information. In his book Crash At Corona he does not include a single interview question and very few quotes from Marcel himself. It seems like he only tells us the things that he thinks support his claims. I want to know everything Marcel said so that I can make my own decisions about his role. Seems logical to me. Friedman got mad at me when I asked him why he was selling his info. LOL

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic You spoke with Friedman personally? I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't a agent of disinformation.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I emailed him and Don Schmidt and asked if I could send an identical list of questions about Roswell. Both agreed. The first one was why do you sell the info? Schmidt said it was "making a living" and Friedman said it was a bunch of baloney. Schmidt answered 2 questions and Friedman answered none. My wife says I should write a book about what I know but I refuse to make money off of a huge myth/hoax that someone else started.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic What's wrong with "making a living" off of telling the truth? That's the scary thing b/c like you said about Marcel, he could be believing unto himself that he is telling the truth but in all reality he is simply lying. So, tell me you think all of the reports & information regarding UFO's throughout history is simply man's imagination or hoaxes? I mean with all the reports & stories you would think that there is something...

[Ur2ez4me81]

@Ur2ez4me81 My Mother told me when I was young that back in the late 60's early 70's during Summer She was coming home from a date & people in the neighborhood were standing outside of there homes looking up into the night sky at some strange lights. She told me there were several & they formed a strange formation. She told me it happened for weeks off & on until the lights were gone for good. Weird.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I know weird things happen but it is really hard to judge things at night. Elevation and distance are almost impossible to judge because there are no reference points. I am 56 years old and I have been to 5 continents including antarctica and I have never seen anything I could not explain. I know other people have but that means to that it is unexplained ... and nothing more. I have yet to see conclusive proof of alien visitation.

[troydeancarpenter]

@roswellskeptic That's because bigfoot keeps blocking your view.

[roswellskeptic]

@troydeancarpenter I heard it was Yeti but I guess they are cousins anyway.

[troydeancarpenter]

@roswellskeptic Yeti, Bigfoot, Sasquatch...or even the Abominable Snowman, are all pretty much from the same toilet.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I have no problem with selling the truth. I do have a problem with writing fiction and selling it as non fiction and that is exactly what Friedman does. He twists the facts, contradicts himself, leaves out important info and blatantly lies to cover his tracks. The worst part of it is that so many people look at him as the best source of info about Roswell and they accept what he says without much thought.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 I dont know what to think about the UFOs throughout history. UFOs are really unidentified and even today when people are used to seeing things in the sky they sometimes cant make out what they are looking at. What would people in ancient times think of a meteor or comet or a rock thrown from a volcano? Remember too that hallucinagenic drugs are nothing new. They have been around since the beginning. Sure would be nice to know for sure.

[DanKelso]

@roswellskepticStanton Friedman also believes in the Abductions stories.

If people are being abducted by aliens, where are the videos showing the Aliens beaming up a human being on there ship, or Aliens taking a human on a ship.

There are millions of camcorders out there and hundreds of thousands of surveillance camera's. Yet their's not one single video. Which shows the abduction stories are all nonsense and pure BS.

[roswellskeptic]

@DanKelso I can't say that people are not being abducted but I don't believe they are. Those that say they have been taken many times don't seem to make much of an attempt to record/document abductions. Nearly all abductions seem to take place in the US which points to mass hysteria as well. I don't know what aliens would want with those people anyway unless they are doing anti-psychotic drug testing. Just a thought.

[DanKelso]

@roswellskeptic Show me one video of a person being abducted by Aliens? 1 video.

There is none. Case closed!

[roswellskeptic]

@DanKelso Why would they abduct some yahoo from an apt in NYC? Why not the pres of the US or russia? Why not some NASA scientist? i saw a show on tv where they removed a piece of metal from some guys toe and since it resembled a meteorite it was definitely an alien implant. So goes the mindset of the CRs. I would think that any alien smart enough to catch and implant a human would be able to hide it better than in his toe. I fart on this whole thing.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic Yeah it's simple, since Marcel opened the door others would follow suit & no offense but if they did this years later after the incident & the Government/Military went after these people wouldn't it in a sense validate the incident? Wouldn't it just be more effective to turn a cold shoulder, ignore or discredit these people?

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 You are correct in a way. But do you really believe that our government would not arrest and prosecute anyone who divulged information that they had been trying to hide for so long? But once again it all goes back to Marcel. He told a tall tale and the government did not care what he or anyone else said about Roswell because there was no truth to it. The problem as I see it is that people put out bogus info and others suck it up like candy.

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 It was against the regs to send an intelligence officer to investigate a plane crash, piliots are supposed to go. And yet Marcel would have us believe that Blanchard sent him to do just that. Should we believe that the man who went on to become a 4 star general did not know the regs or the story that a mustered out major told 30 years later?

[roswellskeptic]

@Ur2ez4me81 Blanchard, who went on to become a 4 star general handled the situation correctly. Marcel, who requested a hardship discharge and went out as a major probably did too. The difference is that 30 years later after everyone who could refute his story was dead Marcel started making up tall tales that just do not make sense. People saw it on tv and decided they wanted their 15 minutes of fame. Who knows, maybe thats they way they remember it.

[Ur2ez4me81]

@roswellskeptic It could be but then again I'm a bit skeptical of your statements especially since your screen name is "Roswell skeptic." Could it be that the fact after Marcel going public & the fact after his death possibly could have eased the stress of some of these people. I mean to have these civilian people come out of the wood work & then have people like Corso, who had one heck of a background & say these things are "real..."

[roswellskeptic]

marcel was trained as an aerial photograph interpreter. He did go to radar school but that does not make him an expert on all radar equipment and he was not asked to stay on as an instructor there, He was asked to stay on as an instructor at photo s school though. You really should get your facts straight before posting. I get mine from Bob Todd who had a copy of Marcel's service record.

[ROCKETMISSILE1234]

@BattlestarPacifica: You got that right!

@burkettquintana: You got that wrong! They've been here for thousands of years!

[roswellskeptic]

@ROCKETMISSILE1234 where is your proof? have you seen even one credible photograph? I know I haven't. and by credible I mean something that could not have been faked by an 8 year old with photoshop experience.

[barto11000]

I've always wondered why someone with a metal detector hasn't gone to the crash site and searched. Surely they didn't get everything.

[scouttroop291]

what that vets dont talk about thay talk all the time and about everthing lol

just when it came to bush end the world shit

[drwinslow70]

It's a shame that many have tried to discredit Jesse Marcel's credentials. He was trained in all of the radar equipment. He was even asked to be an instructor where he got his training. You don't get to be an instructor without knowing what you're doing. He clearly told his family to look for electrical components, and none were found. The Mogul balloon is a lame excuse. The anthromorphic dummies were an ever worse excuse, as they weren't first used until the early 50s. The list goes on.

[roswellskeptic]

@drwinslow70 When did he tell he family to look for electrical components? I have read 6 books about Roswell and never seen that. As far as his family is concerned ... any officer in the military who takes potentially classified and/or hazardous material to his house to show his family should be charged with dereliction of duty and treason. You can't glorify what Marcel did ... he was full of BS and even though he is dead there are millions of people who are still eating it like candy.

[roswellskeptic]

Marcel was a bald faced liar. He lied about his service and his role in the Roswell incident. If his story is true then he should have been court martialed onseveral charges including treason and dereliction of duty. He stated that he and Col Blanchard determined that an aircraft of some sort had crashed out there and Blanchard sent him out to check it out. Army Air Force regulations REQUIRED the CO to send out aircrew people like pilots to investigate crashes. Intelligence officers don't go.

[dagssuper64]

@roswellskeptic thicko small brain...............Ps go to sleep

[roswellskeptic]

@dagssuper64 Of course. You can't come up with any credible evidence to support your side of the story or any conclusive arguments so you resort to name calling. It's what you Roswellians do so well from Friedman and Schmidt all the way down.

[roswellskeptic]

@dagssuper64 Insults? That's the best you can do? You have nothing better to offer like conclusive proof or at least a convincing argument? At least try to keep up.

[redbunnyz]

@roswellskeptic its good to be sceptical but its stupid to demonise the subject based on one witness or your belief system.. once the world was flat.. sun orbited earth and earth was the center of the universe..people who said differently got ridiculed,executed,burned alive etc.. im not a alien nut but there seriously seems to be some very convincing evidence about a outside presence..a stupid human judges a subject before he/she even gets to study the evidence..theres alot BS but truth too

[roswellskeptic]

@redbunnyz I have never argued that there may be aliens here. I am arguing that Marcel was telling the truth when he told his story 30 years after the alleged incident. I have not seen any credible evidence to convince me that we are being visited but I would not rule it out either. If you take the time to read Marcel's account of things and keep an eye open for the huge holes in his story you might change your mind. I have found that when people start to believe they stop thinking,

[matheuscbx750]

minha pica booraa brasill

[ectoplasm8]

His son Jesse Marcel Jr. tells the same story. Foil-like wreckage with I-Beams. Just so happens weather balloons of the time were made up of..... foil-like material and I-Beams. What are the chances that a "UFO" from outer space is made up of the EXACT same material?? It's not logical. The logical answer is that is WAS a weather balloon.

[burkettquintana]

Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.

[redbunnyz]

@burkettquintana haha :D well we dont walk to the jungle and teach the monkeys to make nukes and cars and invite them for a cup of tea wont we :D

[redbunnyz]

howcome we could ever come along whit someone outside of our planet when we cant even get along whit ourselves..and its funny that people really think that if we get visitors they automatically come to destroy and rape us.wake up hollywood junk.. a credentials for a civilication to reach star travel cabability it would HAVETO be peacefull,ecological,etc..spec­ies that are destructive never reach that point..and life in the universe is unique..if we discovered a planet whit apes would we kill em?

[roswellskeptic]

@burkettquintana Amen to that I tell ya.

[sha370z]

99,9% of humans are stuck on Earth so we don't no what going on up there 

[sha370z]

jul 1947 if was a balloon why they keep coming back 1952 1973 1965

nov 17 1986 mar 13 1997 2000 2006 get ready for the 2012 - 2020 UFOs

[MegaScarface1991]

@drmoroe30

Bodies were found miles away from the first crash site, so Jesse Marcel had nothing to do with it. He only observed the first crash site.

[roswellskeptic]

@MegaScarface1991 what bodies? who said? who saw them?

[BattlestarPacifica]

If you came a cross the wreckage of something in the desert, dont you think that you'd be able to tell that it was terrestrial in origin? Regardless of what it is, we have ways and materials for manufacturing things that are recognizable. You mean to tell me that Mr. Marcel, a man with years of military service, constantly around equipment of all types, had mistaken a weather balloon, kite, radar reflective dish for a flying saucer? Wake up.

[roswellskeptic]

@BattlestarPacifica Marcel may have recognized the stuff for what it was in 1947 but 30 years later he lied through his teeth about it. His job was to interpret aerial photographs to assess bomb damage so the claim that he was around all kinds of equipment really isn't true. Years of military service means nothing either. I was in the Navy for 20 years and I knew a lot of people who did know a nut from a bolt. If Marcel's story is true he should have been court martialed for several charges.

[roswellskeptic]

@roswellskeptic I meant did not know a nut from a bolt ... duh

[PitBullsBiteHard]

@roswellskeptic lol , you know military people that can't tell the difference between a balloon, or kite and a ship with advanced technology. and people did say they saw bodies. it's the only reason they tried that stupid dummies and parachutes bullshit.

[roswellskeptic]

@PitBullsBiteHard Everyone is hung up on terminology. Regardless of what Ramey told the reporters to get them off his back there was nothing but Mogul balloon train debris at that ranch. I would have said the same thing. People that said they saw bodies are liars too. Look at the facts ... if what they said was true then there were 7 different crash sites and the military really didnt care too much about what they saw because they are still talking today.

[PitBullsBiteHard]

@roswellskeptic who is they? let me help you understand a thing called disinformation. when i say hey yesterday i saw a ufo it was here looked like this and 5 others saw the same and then some others start popping up with different but similar stories. and i'm not lying what does that mean. not surely but most likely since ufos are a matter of national security then there are some people out there telling stories to make mine sound as fantasical as theirs.

[drmoroe30]

He mentions nothing of the supposed bodies found at this site which leads me to believe that this Roswell crash was, in fact, some sort of experimental craft (MOGUL?) from the U.S. government.

[Gr33nKoolAid]

Experimental Kite, my ass!

[purpurpledog8]

Oh experimental kite my ass.

[purpurpledog8]

Oh weather balloon my ass.

[boredtodelusionFan]

Major Jesse Marcel, poor guy. So embarrassing for him to mistake a weather balloon for something extraterrestrial. He says you can't bend or dent the material with a sledge hammer. But if the material is indestructible, then how did it end up in a million pieces all over the landscape?

[thefallingdream]

@boredtodelusionFan bent or dented, but still can be blown up. big difference between sledgehammers and missiles. i wouldnt disprove ol jesse yet. he was there.

[boredtodelusionFan]

@thefallingdream Jesse never mentioned the "alleged" craft was blown up by a missile. And anything that can be blown up by a missile can be scratched, dented, or bent, my friend.

[thefallingdream]

@boredtodelusionFan i didnt say he said that, i was just providing one of many possibilities. Secondly, anything that can be blown up can be scratched bent or dented is absolutely untrue. Adamantium could be blown up/melted by very specific compounds LOOOOONG before you could ever pick up a wrench and bend it or use a sledge to dent it. Again, just one of many examples.

[thefallingdream]

@boredtodelusionFan lets see if u catch the joke in the last statement. please activate bullshit detectors ;-)

[boredtodelusionFan]

@thefallingdream Oh, so were just joking. Good one.

[mchelo18]

@boredtodelusionFan

it was not only him who described the material as such. More than ten people said the same thing and gave the same description, they seemed quite impressed by the "tinfoil" that could not be dented or broken. Read more on the matter. You say "oh, if it's virtually indestructible, how did it crash and get destroyed?" Well, guess what, no one knows, but it did, and they found what was left of it. That's all.

[bamboosa]

Spock narrates...

[fluffywoods]

This story doesnt match with the guy who talks about being in a bridge game with Marcel that night he left to go and pick up the pieces. Apparently Marcel left during a bridge game and returned early hours with the debris which all the people in the game touched. Here, it says that it took a whole day to get to the crash site. Everybody who talks about this Roswell business is a liar. No one can be trusted. There was no ufo crash.

[ColdNovacain]

@fluffywoods actually, he says that jesse was never at the game, every from intelligence was there except jeese. until he came in the early hours with pieces of debris. have another listen to what the gentlemen have to say before you call them liars...

[lmslms7]

@fluffywoods No ufo crash? I'm not saying it was definitely a UFO, but why the big cover up then? Why lie, and provide different explanations as to what is was?

[konigtigertank]

@velveetaslingshot

It could be two different items and materials, not identical things.

Also, if it returned to it's orginal shape, it wasn't permentally bendable, was it??

semantics at work here...

[badsign1980]

no. the entire universe in all its material mass could only muster imbeciles like george w bush to govern the rest, if where alone in the universe where just fucked because where gonna kill ourselfs and everything on earth, witch means universe failed when it created life that was dumb and destroyed herself and yes im talking about all of you imbeciles

[wejewsdid911HAHAHA89]

HHEHEHEHEHEEEHHHEHEHEHHEE

[buttascotchbro1]

i belive him but he did'nt ee much just a crash object..he never said he saw aliens..just pieces of a busted up object...it could be bent or cut..but they where able 2 ball it up and it returned 2 it's original shape..which is it. and haveinglinar nemi narrarate does not make it so.

[buttascotchbro1]

@velveetaslingshot heres my problem if it was indistructable..how did it bust up in 2 pieces?

[konigtigertank]

@buttascotchbro1

who said it busted up into just 2 pieces?? many...

He (Marcel) did not say it was indestructable, just not damagable with ordinary means, but who knows how hard it crashed and what type of explosion occurred that could blow it into pieces isn't known or understood;

he was convinced by his posiiton and knowledge, though, it was NOT conventional or terrestrial in origin!

[konigtigertank]

Jesse Marcel Sr. and Jr. are straight up men. I would believe them a hundred times over before the lying US government. They admitted to lying about this at least twice!

[adeellime]

superb

[nofooIn]

Thanks for posting! Hopefully one day the government will admit that the Roswell incident was indeed a crashed UFO.

[Malakina1964]

Stellt Euch nur inmal vor, dss die Wahrhei von den Medien veröffentlicht würde...

Die Tiermenschenmonster würden ausrasten und es würde nur ein Chaos entstehen...