keybdwizrd - Prophet '08 Demo #2 (stereo)

[kurokuragawa]

Great. I want one.

[PlayClubSoundZ]

would u recommend this for house music and electro dubstep rap electronic music

[keybdwizrd]

@PlayClubSoundZ Yes

[stryker1999]

Darn it... now I have to get one of these. Of course, this is a good thing, except for my wallet which will be yelling at me for two weeks. ;D

[LithiumJack]

2:00 Nobuo Uematsu is that you?

[Nuub95]

beginning sounds bit confusing with headphones :D

great demo, thanks.

[hoggy82003]

The problem with your demos is that you're too good a keyboard player!

What I mean is that, like a good pianist who can make good music even on a bad piano, you can make any synth sound good because you are an amazing player and improviser.

I'm convinced that you would be able to do a good demo with a crappy Casio.

So, unfortunately, I cannot appreciate the intrinsic qualities, or lack of, of the synths you're playing...

[freezazoid]

can you choose how many voices you have running... let's say I just want it two-voice? Or if I want it 4 voice?

[keybdwizrd]

@freezazoid Offhand I don't know the answer to that, and don't have my P08 set up right now. It seems to me that you either have it in 1) eight-voice poly mode, 2) eight-voice stacked mode (four note polyphony with two simultaneous patches), or 3) unison mode (eight voices on a single note). But I could be mistaken.

[freezazoid]

@keybdwizrd : that seems to make sense. I might be wrong, but the Korg mono/poly seems like you could run anything from 1-4 voices. Cool little synth.  I just bid on a Jupiter-6 though! hope to make a vid soon. Thanks for the info

[DuaLeaD]

@keybdwizrd No, I think you're right....That's all I've been able to get....Although in stacked mode, I believe you can have one layer with 4-voice unison and have 4-voice polyphony in the second layer....Not sure though...I will have to mess with mine today ~_^

[GaryChoader]

@keybdwizrd That's how I understand it. What I find confusing is that a few of the Preset programs activate 2 voices at the same time. I don't know how to build that into a new patch. I've been looking on the forums with no luck.

[keybdwizrd]

@GaryChoader You need to use the stack and split functions.

[jesus1poptart]

you are an amazing synthplayer:D

whats ur over all view on this synth?

is it a user freindly synth?

[keybdwizrd]

Thanks, it is user-friendly for those who learn how to understand the fundamentals of analog synthesis.

[Lemure333]

I have a poly evolver and it seems to be a bit more complex... I am not sure but I am interested in a prophet 08 BIGTIME. Do you think it would be overkill to have both? Do you also have a minimoog as well? I thought you had one in a vid a ways back? I am looking at the voyager too so if you have any info or time I Greatly Appreciate your help. Ah the benifits of college loans LOL Thanx for your time and vids...Peace to you *_*

[keybdwizrd]

Sorry, but I have never had an Evolver or a Minimoog...

[Lemure333]

Thanx for getting back to me K.B.W. I figured I would try you first because you know your stuff very well. What is your overall experience so far with the prophet 08 and would you recommend it to a synth lover? It is on my list but I am at a fork in the road in between this, the Virus TI2 and the Moog Voyager. Thanx for your time...

[keybdwizrd]

The three synths you mention are all very, very different, completely apples and oranges and all that.

The Prophet 08 is perfect for someone who is looking for a polyphonic analog synth with modern conveniences (patch memory, MIDI). It makes all of those classic analog sounds of yesteryear. That said, analog synths are fundamentally less flexible than digital synths, so the Virus TI is capable of a much wider range of sounds.

[Lemure333]

You Rock! Thanx for getting back to me so soon :) I guess I will have to get both hahaha. Love your vids man.... keep rolling and thanx for your time....Peace

[discotechwreck]

That last patch was really nice

I bought an MS-20 a month ago but now seriously considering parting with it for a Prophet '08!

[AhhThatGuy]

ahh how dare you play such orgasmic sounds! this video should be flagged! Seriously though that Tarkus sound - felt exactly like ELP. Wish I could afford one of these, does anyone know a good alternativ,e for maybe a half or third the price?

[pkpaulkersey]

Check out the Mopho made by Dave Smith instruments same guy that made the prophet it's a desktop analog which I believe is supposed to be a one voice version of the prophet for about a third the price.

[keybdwizrd]

I have a bunch of Mopho demos here on YouTube.

[pkpaulkersey]

thx I'll take a look do you have any Alesis Andromeda or any opinion of this synth I like what I have seen but I know they are ultra expensive.

[keybdwizrd]

Sorry, I have never played an Andromeda.

[gr8ape]

Dont, you would become a hermit and starve :P

[AhhThatGuy]

Thanks for the replies guys

yeah the mopho looks good:)

I just bought a microkorg so ill be saving for a while before my next purchase

[Dogboy73]

I want one! But what's it like for big Vangelis style strings? Can it do those old string synth type sounds? It sounds a little to uniform to me. I like those synth string sounds that drift about a bit & have acres of character. Check out some Youtube vids of the Roland RS-505 to hear what I'm talking about.

[Dogboy73]

Actually I've just seen anothe video demo of the 08 & the guy used something called the 'slop' function. This would seem to go someway to helping create this sound.

[raizumichin]

The prophet 08 has a "slop" setting wich quite litteraly makes the oscillators sloppier, wich gives them some more of that drifty sound.

[Vocod3r]

oh,

any reason why?

[Vocod3r]

great demo !

do you have any demos of the nord wave\lead?

[keybdwizrd]

Thanks, but no, haven't ever had either of those.

[Vocod3r]

is this synth recomended for trance\progressive\house producing?

[bentasm1]

Not only is it recommended, its the best one on the market for it.

[djmichaq]

this sound is great!

[loowbudget]

you play like a god!

Dave smith should pay you for your clips!

[keybdwizrd]

Thanks.  :-)

[blewvelvet]

this synth sounds a bit harsh and digital to me.

Reeno

[chickennoodle35]

but its all analog...

rofl

[mindphlux]

this makes me want one even more. i think i'm going to sell some stuff and get one for myself! great playing by the way!

[AmbientGuitarSounds]

Tarkus has a "Deep Purple " sound to it. :)

[chocolatebuttermilk]

Tarkus!!!

Nice ELP! You seem to cover a different style for every sound setting. Thanks for posting video!

Cheers.

[keybdwizrd]

Thanks, I try my best.

[Biopharmer]

I remember reading a music article about synths. They said, you should think about how the sound would be played if it were a real instrument.

[anonymusum]

Very interesting! I got to have a new synth as my old one doesn´t inspire me anymore (that old one among 25 or so .....) It would be very nice if I could ask you some precise questions about the Prophet.

[keybdwizrd]

I don't claim to be an expert, but can try to answer anything. FYI, there's a keyboard forum at the Harmony Central website where lots of Prophet 08 owners hang out. Might be worthwhile to post questions on a forum like that where you can get input from multiple people.

[Meteotrance]

this can realy reproduce the Mike Orldfield string sound, and reproduce warm pad like Queen stuff it's awesome.

[LeonardRockstein]

Very capable keyboard indeed. I'm a guitarist but I'd love one of these to tweak on. Nice analog and digital palates...I think this could emulate some really classic sounds.

[Ris3shadowland]

keybdwizrd, DSI should give you money cause i think you are increaseing there Pro-08 sales :D good playing

[nsukees538]

very nice,its a pitty that you are not my neighbour,i have only Tiesto in the neighbourhood,ik like your playing very well Gr Jan from Holland

[helicoptered]

that's a goodun.. I watched a few on this synth.. What would you do if al the capacitors started to pop like popcorn and mini black holes started appearing before your eyes. :P

[nativeops]

does this have micro tunings like the VST version?

[hieronymusrex]

Can the Prophet 08 achieve the warm breathy attack string/horn pad sound Richard Tandy used on ELO's "Telephone Line" (especially noticable in beginning of song in the 2 chords just after the burst of siney arpeggio that opens the song) ...?? I've been chasing that sound for a long time...

[lundijuno106]

how a sweet synth...thanks so much, for this videos

[PR4Y4SNOW]

Speechless!,,, best on youtube, hands down!

how long have you been playing?

[keybdwizrd]

Thanks - I've been playing since I was six years old.

[Hexonox]

The slide function on this synth is so sweet. Actually everything about the P'08 is pure genius.

[keybdwizrd]

Agreed, it is a great synth.

[Washout6]

OMG! I was wearing headphones and the first part was like, awesome through headphones!

[hectorsland]

me too !!!

[mongobongoman]

what was the song being played with the tarkus setting? it was awesome

[keybdwizrd]

just something i made up

[Artstar]

I see I'm not the only one who asked about that piece...it sounds excellent. If you have a longer/complete version of it, I'd love to hear it.

[TheScientizt]

I really like the part at 3.10, you have a nice tendency to play fast arpegio's, like it.

I am thinking of buying a dave smith prophet or a clavia nord wave to use live on my trance performances (been using vst's until now, mostly with Vanguard in Cubase), but after seeing your vids i think it's going to be the prophet, it just seems to have a more natural feel to it.

Thanks for the great vids, really halpfull.

[kersplosion]

well of course, the 08 is analog, the wave is modeling/sampling

[mellifluously]

No, DCOs not sampled waveforms: 2 digitally controlled analog oscillators (DCOs) per voice with selectable sawtooth, triangle, saw/triangle mix, and pulse waves (with pulse-width modulation), and hard sync.

[dbeckster]

The Tarkus sound was the best!

[DavePerry2012]

The lead sound at 0:52...WOW!

[EmeraldSynth]

as said the P8 is also hotter while the A6 is bigger.

[EmeraldSynth]

A6 best at pads and the mid-range, P8 has a sweeter and purer top end. All a question of taste.

[Biopharmer]

How does this stand up against the A6 (besides polyphony wise)?

[TR0jAX]

the a6 has 16 voices, this one eight. But the p8 is better sounding in my opinion, not as great as the p5, but hey you can´t have everything ;)

[MicroTones]

WHY do people keep giving thumbs down to comments they don't agree on???

That's terrible! The point of the thumbs down is to get rid of flaming, innappropiate language, spam and blank comments; not for censoring those you dislike!

[ratsouffle]

I thought it was to stop people from using the Spam button for comments they simply didn't like.

[Joshplaysinstruments]

The thumbs up and thumbs down are all a matter of opinion. When you get a lot of thumbs down, people just simply don't agree with you. That's the way it is, accept it.

[MicroTones]

OK, I agree with you that, in general, that *should* be the purpose of thumbs up/down. My only big complain is that here, in practice, that translates into the censoring (because youtube temporarily blocks those comments) of the opinions we disagree on (and that's terrible). But yes, that's a problem with the way youtube is programmed.

[Joshplaysinstruments]

I see. Yeah. I click on the those comments to be shown anyway though. haha. they're always interesting and different.

[mysticradio]

i dont hear anything on the PROPH 8 you cant get off the virus T1......plainly for analog nostalgia buffs with a few modern twists..... OMNISPHERE is gonna blow everything out of the water come september...for $499

[mitchellchastain]

you couldn't be more wrong. i have both. trust me. totally different instruments. omnisphere will be cool too. again, you can't compare the 3.

[GoldenColumn]

What a load of cobblers, trojax. Go to the sonicstate site, click on " synth site" , and then " news " , and scroll down to "prophet 08 demo " . It's a comparison of how well the po8 can match oberheim tones.

[weaponEX]

I don't want to agree with TR0jAX and get 3 thumbs down(!), but (while excellently played - this is not in question, Wiz!) the sound of the soft-synth 'Native Instruments Pro-53' has if not better, certainly more interesting pre-sets.

I don't know my terminology well enough to describe the sounds in Pro-53. Many of the sounds have a filter-based movement in them that these demos don't seem to do, which I thought was the point of the Prophet 5. Is that something that this synth doesn't do!?

[weaponEX]

That's what they're called.. filter-envelopes! It's the filter envelopes all over everything that I always associate with sounds on Native Instruments Pro-53.

So does the Prophet '08 filter-envelope not feature so heavily on it's pre-sets?

[GJ1986]

I just gave you and Trojax a thumb up :P

It sounds much like any VA or VST out there but worse. I dunno what it is with this synth but I'm far from liking it... :S

[TR0jAX]

Keyboard Wizard you´re a skilled player, and the demos are nice, but this synths does not even sound analog, it sounds like a software synth with an compressor on the output.

[TheRyowolf]

I agree. The Prophet 08 is nice but if you want a bigger sound look at the Andromeda or Voyager. They both put the meaning in analog!

[Robbinsffxi]

The more oscillators you have, the bigger sound you get; is the theory!.. There is another important thing to think about. When it comes to oscillator and filter quality and other components, you can make a tiny synth sound fatter then a synth with high specs. You need to try both synths before making a statement. the P'08 does sound huge if you want it to. To my ears there is a limit to how huge a usefull sound can be.

[px19]

the crystal song. loved it. it reminds me of some complexity this band called maps and atlases have.

[sync5controller]

The Unison button lives!

[rokuez]

Awesome demos!!! thank you for making three of them as well

[howlereves11]

Dave Smith needs to pay you for these demo's. I thank you once and I'll thank you again. Interesting how Dave's synths sound "American" now in comparison the the other offerings =D