Not surprised even educated people can lack common sence. Belong to what ever party makes you feel included. I for one think "Black Republicans" are the greatest example & cases of "Brain Washed Inclusion" lol. I guess this happens when any ethnic group makes it to the middle class & beyond. Ask Colin Powell what he thinks of the Republican Party. I'm sure he'll remind you this is NOT the Liberal Party of Lincoln or the Moderate Repub Party of Nixon. This new batch are just DERANGED & UNHINGED.
MLK in 1964 after segregationist Barry Goldwater won the GOP nomination:
"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The "best man" at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade."
republicans got rid of slavery, segregation laws and supported LBJ pass all those laws when his own party wouldnt support him and have always been the party for human freedom and equality and individual responsibility. the democrats were the ones who started the kkk who lynched and terrorised coloured americans for decades. BUT the republican party is starting to lose its way of human freedom with their anti gay rhetoric and telling ppl who they can or cannot marry and it needs to stop soon.
uhm why do these ignorant people always tell people about the civil war and how republicans freed slavery, obviously at some point in history, most likely after the new deal and Roselvelt, there was a complete role reversal for support among Republicans for African Americans. I have to admit when i first study politics it confused me too, that's why you must read and do research.
@elnegrobembon They switched ideals, slowly but surely. Jesus was a liberal, the pharisees were conservatives, today it'd be the opposite. The northerners were against slavery and the southerners weren't, but today it's conservatives who are anti racism and liberals that use race to control certain people. Everything flip flopped. If this was 1864, I'd be one of those women hiding slaves in my house.
to deny racism exists today is to be racist yourself.
why is it any time a minority claims racism, conservatives ignore it and brush it off as "using the race card"?
my guess is you're not a minority yourself...either that, or you're very naive... racism exists and you'd be a fool not to acknowledge it.
conservatives need to get it through their heads that the solution isn't to be color-blind.. it's to accept that there are racial problems and to address them..
@elnegrobembon I do not deny racism, sadly it is alive and well. But I sir am not a racist. It very much hurts me to be called such when I've never felt anything but love for all races. There are racists on both sides, conservative and liberal. We mustn't say it's just one political party, to achieve true equality we need to deal with these people one on one.
Wait a minute, the last I checked, I got told to go back to chinkistan by some racist hardcore tea party fag after I explained to him why that movement is alienating the american people in the long run and that this is a far cry from the prestige the republicans had under Eisenhower. If it weren't for that bit of racism unfortunately embedded in my party these days right there, maybe those liberals wouldn't have the loyalty of the minorities they have today.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Thank you again. That is the truth. When i was in college I was in political science class and we had to meet in smaller class with TA every week. I was the only Liberal there and you should have heard some of the stuff that was being said about minorities in that class. My TA was even a Republican. I guess they thought since I was the only Liberal in there I would not say anything. They were wrong. I defended my race and found myself defended other minorities as well.
You're welcome. I am what's called a "Rockefeller Republican", paleoconsevative, or progressive republican. We used to own the republican party before the civil rights movement drove the racist, bible-spewing element of the Democrats(dixiecrats) into our party and completely wrested control of the party from us. We've been a dying minority ever since. It's gotten so bad that the latest member of the Rockefeller family is now a democrat. This party is a shell of what it was.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Yeah that is true they have ran those type of Republicans out and that is sad. The Republican party today is much different from the Old Republican Party. The Old Republicans are now the Democrats of today. The old Democrats are the Republicans of today
Indeed, the worst elements of the democrats went into our party and the best elements of us are being driven out by an increasingly virulently far-right base.
I don't agree with universal healthcare. I'd rather have the health insurance companies go back to what they were in the past, where they were non-profit insurance companies accommodated by states and weren't allowed to be traded on the stock market. The Eisenhower republicans knew that some regulation sustained competition and safeguarded the economy as a whole, yet, they built the interstate highways to promote capitalism. The old republicans did things as the situation needed
However, one of the biggest flaws I realize about making insurance companies go back to being non-profit is that the leadership at the top would not take kindly to such a thing and neither would the shareholders. A massive bribery campaign would be undertaken in congress to ensure that nothing would be changed. Sadly, the only other option is the liberal one which is to create a public option to ensure competition and decent prices. A bribery campaign is underway to prevent that
This is where I see flaws in my belief in the process. I sadly see a path through American liberalism. It's like I've been implying, Liberalism is not wrong, it's just not perfect and I don't like it. Yet, neither is any brand of Conservatism. They are simply different approaches to capitalism.
Globalism is the true problem these days and must be approached properly so transnational corporations don't treat nations like their little playgrounds. That's what needs to be handled
However, you current republicans, paleo and neocon, are ideology chasers with credibility on par with the most pathetic bleeding heart liberal. Honestly, I accept that I may be wrong in some of my beliefs. I don't think you types nor the liberals are willing to accept that you may definitely be wrong in your beliefs. You accuse the liberals of being wrong and racist when in fact, it was those liberals who passed the civil rights acts and drove the alienated the racist dixiecrats
@7h3br1ckb4lls My belief in God is not wrong, but I would definitely say I can be wrong and am sometimes. Liberals today (some of them) are entirely different than the freedom riders of the civil rights movement, for instance, we have some that think black people are entitled to things because the civil war happened, but that's just not true! My grandparents were polish, and lost family members in the holocaust, but Germans are in no way indebted to me.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Some people think they should get things because of their race, or their sex, but that is not the way to equality or peace, it only angers those that actually earn what they have. The heroes of the civil rights movement did not want to be given things for free, they didn't want white people to be mistreated and they didn't want to be treated better than anyone, they wanted equality, to actually have the chance to be educated and get jobs! Things are different now.
@7h3br1ckb4lls I was done with the Tea Party when I seen them with black dolls hanging from a noose like they were lynching them. Also I heard some of the stuff that some of them have said.
Notice it's black liberals that are leaving angry comments on here that "their" people can get along with whites without race being an issue. Nobody cares you're black or white people, we don't like liberals because you're annoying, you whine, you're hypocrites, you're angry, and you want division. Titus 3:10, Any man that creates division should be warned once, then twice, then you must stay away from him.
@IronCladLady8 Your annoying and whine all the time about liberals. All I ever here is Liberals are this. Liberals are that . I really don't care about conservatives. You are calling liberals hypocrites. Please go look in the mirror at yourself.
@blackisbeautiful09 LOL. See your above comment and my response. Liberals preach about tolerance for all perspectives and opinions of lifestyles, but as soon as I disagree with you, you don't care about me or what I think and being using curse words. That's a perfect example of hypocrisy.
@IronCladLady8 I get along with white people so what is your point? So take your issues to somebody who listen and give damn about what you are saying because I sure and the hell don't. Have a nice life and good riddance.
You're not going to vote on name, you're simply going to vote based on party because that's what everyone in your church is doing. Don't deny it. You're no worse than black people who vote democrat, and especially black democrat simply because that's what everyone else does. You're voting with your eyes closed and talking out of your ass on issues that probably don't affect your inbred community. It's people like you who ruined my party(republican) in the first place.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Ha! It fascinates me how liberals try to convince others not to stereotype anyone, and as soon as they get irritated by a conservative they call them inbred. Not that it's any of your business, but my family is from Syracuse, and they only just arrived there in the 30s, from Sicily. I don't go to church either. You just got me all wrong didn't ya'? I vote based on my beliefs and who mirrors them the best, period.
No, I'm actually a republican. I'm sick of seeing other republicans rail and try to suppress the beliefs of others through constant screaming and complaining about liberals. They have their beliefs and I believe they should keep them and that there other beliefs have their merits. Also, that background is a message from elkinsinbox and that link provided is his RSO profile. Try to get the full story before you come to a conclusion.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Thank you. I get so mad when people criticize me for being a Liberal. I go on the defensive. I been called every name in the book because I am liberal. I have been called a athetist, socialist, and many other things.etc. I have friends who are Republican and yes we can have an honest discussions. I hate that people think all liberals are on welfare and want money from the gov't. I have never in my life been on welfare and I am far from lazy.
@7h3br1ckb4lls I'm confused, your background is from some other guys page? As for liberals being entitled ot their beliefs, of course! But that doesn't mean they're right sir.
@7h3br1ckb4lls And you were never a republican. Every day I see liberals claiming to once have been republicans because they think it will make their pointless argument credible, but they're wrong, as always. Sooo, you're proud of being a child rapist....yeah, that makes you lose all credibility pertaining to all subjects, because you're just pure evil. Does your parole officer know you get on YouTube to defend your raping of "kiddies" as oyu call them?
@blackisbeautiful09 Wow, what a completely stupid, racist, generalized statement, coming form a "love all, peace seeking, can't we all just get along, accept homosexuality and abortion" loving liberal. Interesting. Sooo, you think it's wrong for blacks and whites to be members of the same country club....you're the equivalent of white slave owners in 1865. And by the way, it's *there, not their.
@IronCladLady8 I have said nothing racist honey. Believe me. Someone like you with no class would call me a racist. So take your comments to somebody who cares. Second your hanging with white slave owners from 1865at the country clubs. They just go under a different name now.
@blackisbeautiful09 Conservative ideals are what freed the slaves. Liberals to this day use racism to get what they want, and to control black people. Thank God black republicans are standing up against Obama's racist administration. And for your info, my family didn't move here until 1933, soooo, yeah, wrong again.How racist is that? You think because I'm not black my ancestors hung people. You judge based on race. Don't forget it was white people that freed slaves too.
why are you going to lie to this person like that?? you know we went over that before..
you *know* conservative ideology is NOT what freed the slaves...
smh.. and on top of that, you don't even notice the arrogance of your statements.
white people freed the slaves??? are people supposed to respect that after it was white people that enslaved them in the first place for hundreds of years??
@elnegrobembon Thank you. It was not conservative ideology that freed the slaves. The emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the states that seceded from the Union. That means states that stayed in the Union who had slaves were allowed to keep them. Also Abraham Lincoln wanted the war to be more about bring those states back to the Union and not slavery but it ended up being more about freeing the slaves. Don't get me wrong I am glad the slaves were freed believe me
very true... not many people know the truth about the emancipation proclamation. nowadays, the popular belief is that it's what freed the slaves and lincoln is a great hero for it..
also, ironcladlady8 likes to hijack good liberal ideas and credit them to conservatives. republicans might be conservatives now, but before the mid 1900's, they were liberal and democrats were conservatives... we had a conversation about this before, but i guess she conveniently forgot.
@elnegrobembon Not true. The conservative ideal concerning race is there shouldn't be any. It shouldn't be recognized at all, for any reason. We are all people, and should behave as such. The fact that I'm white or female should earn me nothing, but should also not inhibit me, and the same for any other race and the male gender. These were the ideals of the people that fought to free slaves.
that's ridiculous. color-blindness is not the way to defeat racism.. it's to accept that different skin-toned people exist and to embrace it instead of attack it.
you think sex and race should just all of a sudden be ignored in a world dominated by white men???
that's pretty convenient huh?? when white men are at the top of the totem pole, after having benefited from a sexist, racist society for thousands of years, all of a sudden NOW you want everything to be even? lol!
that's like going into a boxing match, and me fighting somebody with brass knuckles.. then at round 6 say, "ok, i was cheating, but let's forget about that and all the damage i've done to your face.. from round 7 on, i'll take off my brass knuckles and we'll fight on even terms"
ignoring race and sex after milenia of sexism and racism is the same as ignoring the damage caused by racism and sexism. as if they're not a factor on where minorities and women are today in society.
@elnegrobembon Today, many liberals believe being a certain race should get you something, or inhibit others, and that's as far from equality as we can get! It makes the whole civil rights movement and civil war vain.
social liberals are the least among people who believe in racism.. don't you remember? social liberals are the ones that fight for the rights of LGBT's, minorities, and every marginalized member of society.
you're assuming something that's not true...
and the civil war was not fought for the rights of any minorities.. it was for political-economic interests... which is what every war in history is based on...
@elnegrobembon I don't know what smh means, forgive me but I'm new to this. As for respect, yes, there should be some respect, just as they respect the blacks that fought for civil rights. The only reason I wrote that is because some people only remember the bad. Whites enslaved black people, but they also set them free sir. If true equality and peace is what we want to achieve together, we must let go of our pasts and become at peace with each other now, and forget what anyone's color is.
smh= shake my head. welcome to the internet. lol! oh, lol = laugh out loud.
anyway, you have to remember to be a little more conscious of the way you express yourself...
besides the fact that white people did not free slaves or fight for civil rights on their own accord or because it just occured to them that it was the right thing to do (except for the white liberals that took pity on blacks), you come off as arrogant...
little niggers. we decided to stop fucking you over and set you free a while ago. so stop your bitching and pull yourself from your bootstraps"
it sounds incredibly arrogant and as if you still had the mentality that blacks were actually a property or a pet to be "freed"
and like i said, you're ignoring the fact that the race-based inequality that lasted 100's of years affects people in society today and it wouldn't be fair to just say, "ok, forget the past, we're all even now"
@elnegrobembon And the top part of this comment is inaccurate, because a most of the union army came form families that had never enslaved anyone of any race, so these people that fought for the union were never in cahoots with what was going on down south. Blacks are not property, but they were freed. Once anyone is enslaved, the must be freed, I'm not sure what other word you would pick. Why isn't it fair to forget the past? Living in the past is debilitating to the present.
it doesn't matter who owned slaves or not. the civil war wasn't fought in an effort to free slaves, or to give blacks equal rights.. (obviously, because they didn't get equal rights) the problem the north had with the south was based on other things. learn the history.
you don't just forget the past. if you forget the past, you forget how it is you got to be where you are now... would you pardon all criminals because their crimes happened in the past?
@elnegrobembon They didn't receive equal rights immediately, but today we have a black president in America, a beautiful black Miss America, so black people can now achieve everything white people have ever achieved. No one told you to forget the past, I am all for remembering the past and the blood that was shed to free us ALL, put I am totally against living in it. You want to live in the past, then that's the way things will stay.
@elnegrobembon It's interesting to me that you say we shouldn't forget the past, but are you against waving the confederate flag? Are you against the mosque being built in a place where horrible history happened?
i'm not any more against waving the confederate flag than i am against waving the nazi flag...
and i'm not against building a mosque close to the where 9/11 took place any more than i am against building a church in places where christianity has been used to enslave, torture, terrorize, and murder people...
(crusades, inquisitions, witch hunts, colonialism, slavery, IRA, scott roeder, tim mcveigh, eric rudolph... any of that ring a bell?)
@elnegrobembon I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be seen for the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Martin Luther King didn't want race to be recognized, neither did thousands of people that fought for civil rights, so why are you robbing them of that? Why won't you see them for their accomplishments and their character instead of their skin color? Have they not earned it?
The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light.
Letting go of the past enables us to build a fruitful present, and even future! I focus on the positive, and that is the fact that we are ALL equal, and we now have a black president and nobody can be held back by race anymore. Or sex for that matter, let's not forget women were enslaved thousands of years longer than blacks.
what that verse has to do with your point, i don't know... but like i said, we're NOT all equal. throughout history, events have taken place that put certain groups of people in a better position in society. you can't just say, "let's all be color-blind and equal now." it's incredibly naive.
btw, do you also think pakistani women have equal position as men in society because pakistan has had a female head of state?
@elnegrobembon The verse means let go of the evils of the past, and embrace the new at hand. We may not all BE equal, but we all have the opportunity to be equal. Pakistani are equal to men in the eyes of God who created them, if they would embrace that they could free themselves form the bondage those men put them under. Tell me why we shouldn't be color blind? Tell me why race matters at all.
being equal in the eyes of God and equal in the eyes of society are two very different things..
pakistani women can't just "free themselves." they, along with minorities in the US and around the world, have been oppressed and marginalized for hundreds of years. you have opportunities and resources that some minorities will never see. you have the privilege of being white in a society that, consciously or not, has, and continues to, benefit you over minorities...
@elnegrobembon They are two very different things, but since Pakistani women or others like them cannot free themselves, it is up to us to help them, and give them the opportunities that are such a luxury to us.
so you DO accept that pakistani women are marginalized in their society, even after having a female elected head of state.. not once, but twice. even with that fact, you still wouldn't dream of saying that sexism doesn't exist anymore in pakistan.
yet, somehow having a mulatto president in the US is proof of racism being overcome in the US??
get over it.. racism exists. our society is racist.. it doesn't make you a bad person.. just a product of your environment.
@elnegrobembon Why would I say sexism doesn't exist in Pakistan? Or anywhere else for that matter? You're wrong all over the place. If a mulatto, as oyu say, can become president, then what does that mean? And saying you're a product of your environment is an excuse, and a bad one at that. You choose to be who you are. I grew up in a poor home and around degenerates that made consistently bad choices, yet I became the complete opposite because I chose to.
@elnegrobembon Now you seem to have misunderstood me. Perhaps I haven't been clear. There's racism everywhere, but it's not holding anybody back, not here at least. the white Christian male is the most discriminated against person in the world, not just the US. This current administration has divided this country racially more than any administration in the past, and maybe the Pakistani presidents are doing the same, it's all about controlling what they believe are the weaker or dumber persons.
that comment is the biggest joke i've ever heard. i literally lol'd..
so racism exists, but it doesn't hold anybody back?? lol! then what exactly do you see as the negative aspect of racism? i mean, if it doesn't hold anybody back, there's nothing wrong with racism..
and you say THIS admin had divided the country racially??? really?? more so than jackson? roosevelt? wilson? lol!! that's an incredibly ignorant thing to say..
@elnegrobembon Of course it does! This is what I've been telling you the entire time! It holds the racist back. Yes, this administration is the worst, by far. those presidents that you just listed were living in a country that was dividing itself, but Obama's done it all on his own.
@elnegrobembon You call me naive because I'm positive. It effects the racist because it's negativity and hatred, which are both destructive. Sure there's unfairness in the world, yeah, maybe I won't get paid as much somewhere because I don't have a penis, but I'll just keep on keepin' on until I get what I'm worth. You can't let people that hate you keep you down, because there is always someone out there that hates you.
i call you naive because you're ignorant of other peoples reality. there's nothing positive about that.
i admire your perseverance. thats great, but it doesn't negate the fact that sexism has a negative effect on you and has possibly put roadblocks in your way that men wouldn't have (which gives men an advantage).. you live with that, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't change.
racism also exists and i live with it... but i shouldn't have to just "get over it." i want it to change
@elnegrobembon Oh, sexism doesn't hurt me at all, my boobs get me ahead....LOL. And yes, I know that's sexism :) Get over the past, I never said ignore what happens today.
don't worry, i think my mother knows i'm old enough to get into conversations with the word "penis" in them.. even if they're said with bad intentions.
besides, whether for good or for bad, it would be hard to act on those bad intentions over the internet.. lol
@elnegrobembon Well I just want you to know even though we bickered for a while I think you're very well spoken and intelligent, and I've enjoyed talking to you. i wish you only the best, and hope no one mistreats you for for any reason. Believe it or not, I get a lot of women being mean to me that don't even know me. Sexism exists among the same sexes as well ;(
as well does racism exist among the same races.. but you have to keep on moving in spite of all that, as well as try to point out the problems and try to fix them even when they're ignored by society.
and no hard feelings from me either.. i also enjoy seeing people's points of views, especially if theyre different from mine.
so i wish a merry christmas to you.. and since you enjoy alcohol only twice a year, i hope you really enjoy it and i'll def toast for a happy new year for you
@elnegrobembon Here's the gigantic problem, it's people like me that are accused of being racist and I am nothing of the sort. The real racists out there are the people trying to hold them down, keep them under control, and those people almost always fall on the liberal side. They make it look like they're helping them, but in fact it's just a way to have a toe hold over them. Point is, there is no such thing as unequal.
@elnegrobembon So you're basically saying nothing is ever good enough, that people shall have to pay forever for the crimes their ancestors committed? That even though we have a black president, they as a race are still completely held back. Your argument is falling apart.
it's not a matter of placing guilt on people.. it's a matter of a society taking responsibility for its members that have been marginalized and treated as second-class... whether or not it was you built this type of social caste-system that caused this type of oppression on minorities and benefits you is irrelevant.
you may not be guilty of its foundation, but you still have a responsibility..
i suggest you look up "tim wise" here in youtube for a different perspective on this.
just as i thought.. you're incredibly naive if you think oppression, marginalization, and inequality doesn't exist in the US today...
just remember, your experience is not universal. believe it or not, racism still exists, people are discriminated against, and there are inequalities based on racial lines..
of course, if you live in a fairy tale land oblivious to reality, then you would think that..
like i said before, i recommend searching "tim wise" and watch some of his vids
@elnegrobembon Maybe this crap is still going on in Denmark, which is where I thought your page said you're from, but in America, if you are uneducated, a criminal, or anything of the like, it's your fault, not histories, not slave owners, not your momma and daddy's, yours. It's the people that constantly blame others that remain where they are. It's the ones that get over it and get on with it that become happy and successful.
@elnegrobembon Arrogance shouldn't be confused with certainty. I'm not better than anyone in any way, but I believe all Americans, white, black, whatever color, owe our freedom to all colors. Whites and blacks fought in the civil war. We all know freedom isn't free, I just don't want anyone to forget that.
@IronCladLady8 You talk about President Obama being racist Are you serious? You need to look at the Republican party before you call somebody racist in Obama's administration. Look what Republicans are now trying to do to Michael Steele. I did not say anything about your ancestors you said that one. I know my history honey. I know who freed the slaves. Are we suppose to kiss some white people asses?.
Also, I find it odd after you continue to support Rush Limbaugh, a terrible sickness in my party, even after he came back from child-sex tourism in the Dominican republic with a bottle of viagra to prove it. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that if anti-pedo laws didn't exist in this country, you'd totally whore your pile of children out to that child-molesting piece of shit. Go back to your trailer you inbred cancer to my party.
@7h3br1ckb4lls Hmmm, forgive me but I've never heard of this. As for the last line of your comment, I see it unnecessary to insult me because I stood up for the innocence of children. I've not insulted you, I'd appreciate it if you'd not insult me.
I didn't vote for Barrack Obama. I didn't vote for him because his policies suck, not because he's half black. It's racist and ignorant to vaote for someone because of their skin color. I don't like John McCain that much, but he would of been better than Barrack. These people on this video are my brothers and sisters. I love them. We conservatives need to stand together against the tyrrany of the leftist agenda. God Bless conservatives
Evidence that MLK was Reub.? Hell listen to his niece, as well as other family members speak of his values. History research is a wonderful thing...try it sometime. In a survey that blocked the political platform, 90% of blacks stood for conservative values. However, 88% of blacks vote liberal or Dem. Why you ask? Because many blacks have been "tricked" by the Dems agenda, with help from crooks and pimps like "supposed" Rev Jackson and Rev Sharpton, who make their living off keeping blacks down
Evidence that MLK was Reub.? Hell listen to his niece, as well as other family members speak of his values. History research is a wonderful thing...try it sometime.
Evidence that MLK was Reub.? Hell listen to his niece, as well as other family members speak of his values. History research is a wonderful...try it sometime.
Boy are you confused. His son stated that he never endorsed a political party. However, he did support JFK (as well as King,Sr.) when RFK got him out of prison, and he supported LBJ because of his views on civil rights. Education........try it sometime. :-)
@billybob101013 So billybob (small b's), do you really think your continued display of racist ignorance is going to make us stop talking because YOU can recite insults?
@BlackAndRight Don't kid yourself u know exactly what the f*ck i'm talking about. With what black people have been through in this country they look crazy as hell to not be supporting the first electable black man to ever come along.Sometimes you have to put politics aside and try something new despite your political affiliations.The white people in the audience must be thinking STUPID Nig****
@Geezo10 No, in my experience it's arrogant, spelling-challenged, undisciplined and supervised punk asses like you who refer to blacks as STUPID Nig**** because it takes a lot of courage to use hate speech on an ISP your parents pay for on a computer you never worked to earn. You are irrelevant.
@Geezo10 I'm not thinking it..I already KNOW it as fact. anyone bringing race into anything is a retard so YES, you are a stupid nigg*r and so is any white retard that agrees with you.
you need a translation for traditional african-american argot and idioms?
i would think that a self-described black american wouldn't need a translation.... that is, if you're not too disconnected from cultural ties to black society in the US. in which case, it would be very ironic.....if your comment was really serious and you weren't simply, purposefully trying to sound like a douchebag..
You know, I thought about it and maybe that was poor wording on my part. While I don't agree with the liberal point of view It doesn't mean I cant be a brother to someone who has that point of view I mean I have a biological brother who is a liberal and I can't stand his point of view but I guess I don't love him any less. I just get frustrated with him.
My only admiration of black republicans is their tolerance of being called a monkey and a nigger by supporters of GOP Canidates like the people at the McCain/Palin rallies and at the rallies in west Pennsylvania where the whites were saying that Obama would be a "Monkey President" The most curious thing was that no other republican tried to put an end to the hate rhetoric.TYPICAL!
rocks, trees and animals over the welfare of human beings ... really ... with tears while you say that...lets talk about stereotyping..."war mongers"
johnsons social policies were successful in the minority communities. during this period the black community became more active in politics, increased voting, took local and national offices. the policies ultimately failed because a conservative neo-liberal model, afraid of black people in politics, waged war against the concept.
Thank god black folks are becoming republican more and more. I think the man up stairs is starting a movement. I will consider you all my brothers and sisters.
Absolutley, my point being that race means absolutley nothing to me, my point being is that the content of your charicter is the important thing, not the color of your skin. Yea I believe that was a phrase MLK used. Yea and he was a conservative republican to. Liberals are a serious threat to my way of life so yea I support my previous statement
@tikurgisila Let's see now... people like you have been kissing Democrat ass for how many decades and look how great the black community is today. You go on kissing Democrat ass. They love it when you attack us because it further weakens you.
It's amazing that these people go back to the 1800's and say how republicans helped black rights and helped end slavery but then again are the same ones who would say people should get over slavery.
Well, diversity within the GOP is steady coming out and this is definitely a good thing for them. However, how long will it take before certain stigmas can be erased for groups of color who are part of the modern day GOP ideology?
you're just mad cause you are a sellout thats all too it.that is why you are quick too respond back you stupid NIGGER not NIGGA NIGGER. LOVE YOURSELF and stop loving the ones that HATE YOU NIGGER.
this guy the black republican is a straightup uncle tom. the type dude that needs to be loved by whites to feel good about his self we have the first black president an the fool feels the need to talk smack boy i tell ya you black ppl have no character. yous r my people and i love yous and its not our doing why we r like this them devils stole are sense of who we really were
Black Republicans are patriots, not uncle tom's. The sad thing about liberals and progressives, they don't like it when black (un-hyphenated) Americans have minds of their own. It's a lot easier to control people when you can brainwash them into thinking they're victims of everyone and everything. "Uncle Tom" is just another slur by liberals used to describe anyone who thinks for themselves & does not agree with their radical agenda.
Black Republicans are patriots, not uncle tom's. The sad thing about liberals and progressives, they don't like it when black (un-hyphenated) Americans have minds of their own. It's a lot easier to control people when you can brainwash them into thinking they're victims of everyone and everything. "Uncle Tom" is just another slur by liberals used to describe anyone who thinks for themselves & does not agree with their radical agenda.
The Republican Party pretends to be for White conservatives but it is just part of the two party sham system. They are just as anti-White as the Democrats. Come join the National Alliance so we can keep these woolly headed thick lipped baboons from turning America into a third World sewer. You can view their web site just type in National Alliance.
@BlackAndRight Do Not fear them. There are more Real Americans like you and I than they are racist libtards and their House slaves in denial like Billybob and Jessibabi88. In support of Ken Gladney: "We're NOT Going to take it anymore.
there stupid nigga are worry about the civil war fuck there backward an not in the real world they dont see all the olds white rednecks in the republicans so they go back to the civil war give me a break uncle toms
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RepublicansAreNazis 1 month ago
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uncle toms take manhattan
RepublicansAreNazis 1 month ago
someone has to explain to me this arguement that democrats keep "blacks" poor or "in the plantation". how so?
YoungTon22 4 months ago
Not surprised even educated people can lack common sence. Belong to what ever party makes you feel included. I for one think "Black Republicans" are the greatest example & cases of "Brain Washed Inclusion" lol. I guess this happens when any ethnic group makes it to the middle class & beyond. Ask Colin Powell what he thinks of the Republican Party. I'm sure he'll remind you this is NOT the Liberal Party of Lincoln or the Moderate Repub Party of Nixon. This new batch are just DERANGED & UNHINGED.
MichaelPAUSA 8 months ago
@MichaelPAUSA ur describing log cabin republicans, not black republicans
tsharpmac420 6 months ago
Ice cold milk and an oreo cookie.......
bigfilmhat 9 months ago
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MLK in 1964 after segregationist Barry Goldwater won the GOP nomination:
"The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The "best man" at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade."
sgtpepper2345 9 months ago
republicans got rid of slavery, segregation laws and supported LBJ pass all those laws when his own party wouldnt support him and have always been the party for human freedom and equality and individual responsibility. the democrats were the ones who started the kkk who lynched and terrorised coloured americans for decades. BUT the republican party is starting to lose its way of human freedom with their anti gay rhetoric and telling ppl who they can or cannot marry and it needs to stop soon.
Hotrod7031 9 months ago
uhm why do these ignorant people always tell people about the civil war and how republicans freed slavery, obviously at some point in history, most likely after the new deal and Roselvelt, there was a complete role reversal for support among Republicans for African Americans. I have to admit when i first study politics it confused me too, that's why you must read and do research.
teflontahj 9 months ago
interesting , im sorry for all the labeling people will put on you. stand firm, dont let people label you.you know who you are.
ddaley001 1 year ago
Welfare keeps people in bondage..or turns people into thieves that expect free money without working.
shanana000 1 year ago
lol!!! these people act as if the republicans and democrats of the mid-1800's are the same after 150 years..
republicans don't care about black people anymore... that was done for political leverage over a century ago.
smh.. you've got to be a fool..
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon They switched ideals, slowly but surely. Jesus was a liberal, the pharisees were conservatives, today it'd be the opposite. The northerners were against slavery and the southerners weren't, but today it's conservatives who are anti racism and liberals that use race to control certain people. Everything flip flopped. If this was 1864, I'd be one of those women hiding slaves in my house.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
to deny racism exists today is to be racist yourself.
why is it any time a minority claims racism, conservatives ignore it and brush it off as "using the race card"?
my guess is you're not a minority yourself...either that, or you're very naive... racism exists and you'd be a fool not to acknowledge it.
conservatives need to get it through their heads that the solution isn't to be color-blind.. it's to accept that there are racial problems and to address them..
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon I do not deny racism, sadly it is alive and well. But I sir am not a racist. It very much hurts me to be called such when I've never felt anything but love for all races. There are racists on both sides, conservative and liberal. We mustn't say it's just one political party, to achieve true equality we need to deal with these people one on one.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
Wait a minute, the last I checked, I got told to go back to chinkistan by some racist hardcore tea party fag after I explained to him why that movement is alienating the american people in the long run and that this is a far cry from the prestige the republicans had under Eisenhower. If it weren't for that bit of racism unfortunately embedded in my party these days right there, maybe those liberals wouldn't have the loyalty of the minorities they have today.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Thank you again. That is the truth. When i was in college I was in political science class and we had to meet in smaller class with TA every week. I was the only Liberal there and you should have heard some of the stuff that was being said about minorities in that class. My TA was even a Republican. I guess they thought since I was the only Liberal in there I would not say anything. They were wrong. I defended my race and found myself defended other minorities as well.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
@blackisbeautiful09
You're welcome. I am what's called a "Rockefeller Republican", paleoconsevative, or progressive republican. We used to own the republican party before the civil rights movement drove the racist, bible-spewing element of the Democrats(dixiecrats) into our party and completely wrested control of the party from us. We've been a dying minority ever since. It's gotten so bad that the latest member of the Rockefeller family is now a democrat. This party is a shell of what it was.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Yeah that is true they have ran those type of Republicans out and that is sad. The Republican party today is much different from the Old Republican Party. The Old Republicans are now the Democrats of today. The old Democrats are the Republicans of today
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
@blackisbeautiful09
Indeed, the worst elements of the democrats went into our party and the best elements of us are being driven out by an increasingly virulently far-right base.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls
Ah, wait, scratch that, instead of paleoconservative, it's moderate republican.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls If oyu don't mind me asking, what do you think makes you republican?
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
I don't agree with universal healthcare. I'd rather have the health insurance companies go back to what they were in the past, where they were non-profit insurance companies accommodated by states and weren't allowed to be traded on the stock market. The Eisenhower republicans knew that some regulation sustained competition and safeguarded the economy as a whole, yet, they built the interstate highways to promote capitalism. The old republicans did things as the situation needed
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Well I agree with all that, so does that make me an old republican?
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
However, one of the biggest flaws I realize about making insurance companies go back to being non-profit is that the leadership at the top would not take kindly to such a thing and neither would the shareholders. A massive bribery campaign would be undertaken in congress to ensure that nothing would be changed. Sadly, the only other option is the liberal one which is to create a public option to ensure competition and decent prices. A bribery campaign is underway to prevent that
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
This is where I see flaws in my belief in the process. I sadly see a path through American liberalism. It's like I've been implying, Liberalism is not wrong, it's just not perfect and I don't like it. Yet, neither is any brand of Conservatism. They are simply different approaches to capitalism.
Globalism is the true problem these days and must be approached properly so transnational corporations don't treat nations like their little playgrounds. That's what needs to be handled
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
However, you current republicans, paleo and neocon, are ideology chasers with credibility on par with the most pathetic bleeding heart liberal. Honestly, I accept that I may be wrong in some of my beliefs. I don't think you types nor the liberals are willing to accept that you may definitely be wrong in your beliefs. You accuse the liberals of being wrong and racist when in fact, it was those liberals who passed the civil rights acts and drove the alienated the racist dixiecrats
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls My belief in God is not wrong, but I would definitely say I can be wrong and am sometimes. Liberals today (some of them) are entirely different than the freedom riders of the civil rights movement, for instance, we have some that think black people are entitled to things because the civil war happened, but that's just not true! My grandparents were polish, and lost family members in the holocaust, but Germans are in no way indebted to me.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Some people think they should get things because of their race, or their sex, but that is not the way to equality or peace, it only angers those that actually earn what they have. The heroes of the civil rights movement did not want to be given things for free, they didn't want white people to be mistreated and they didn't want to be treated better than anyone, they wanted equality, to actually have the chance to be educated and get jobs! Things are different now.
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blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls I was done with the Tea Party when I seen them with black dolls hanging from a noose like they were lynching them. Also I heard some of the stuff that some of them have said.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
Notice it's black liberals that are leaving angry comments on here that "their" people can get along with whites without race being an issue. Nobody cares you're black or white people, we don't like liberals because you're annoying, you whine, you're hypocrites, you're angry, and you want division. Titus 3:10, Any man that creates division should be warned once, then twice, then you must stay away from him.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8 Your annoying and whine all the time about liberals. All I ever here is Liberals are this. Liberals are that . I really don't care about conservatives. You are calling liberals hypocrites. Please go look in the mirror at yourself.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
@blackisbeautiful09 LOL. See your above comment and my response. Liberals preach about tolerance for all perspectives and opinions of lifestyles, but as soon as I disagree with you, you don't care about me or what I think and being using curse words. That's a perfect example of hypocrisy.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8 I get along with white people so what is your point? So take your issues to somebody who listen and give damn about what you are saying because I sure and the hell don't. Have a nice life and good riddance.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
@blackisbeautiful09 Why are you so angry? Aren't liberals all about tolerance of all ideas and perspectives?
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
The republican party is owned by the insurance companies of america now that is slavery . Vote Anthony Weiner for president 2012.
worseto 1 year ago
@worseto You know, since you guys vote based on race, I'm going to vote based on name, and I don't like the name Weiner, so he won't get my vote ;)
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
You're not going to vote on name, you're simply going to vote based on party because that's what everyone in your church is doing. Don't deny it. You're no worse than black people who vote democrat, and especially black democrat simply because that's what everyone else does. You're voting with your eyes closed and talking out of your ass on issues that probably don't affect your inbred community. It's people like you who ruined my party(republican) in the first place.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Ha! It fascinates me how liberals try to convince others not to stereotype anyone, and as soon as they get irritated by a conservative they call them inbred. Not that it's any of your business, but my family is from Syracuse, and they only just arrived there in the 30s, from Sicily. I don't go to church either. You just got me all wrong didn't ya'? I vote based on my beliefs and who mirrors them the best, period.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
No, I'm actually a republican. I'm sick of seeing other republicans rail and try to suppress the beliefs of others through constant screaming and complaining about liberals. They have their beliefs and I believe they should keep them and that there other beliefs have their merits. Also, that background is a message from elkinsinbox and that link provided is his RSO profile. Try to get the full story before you come to a conclusion.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls
*their beliefs
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls Thank you. I get so mad when people criticize me for being a Liberal. I go on the defensive. I been called every name in the book because I am liberal. I have been called a athetist, socialist, and many other things.etc. I have friends who are Republican and yes we can have an honest discussions. I hate that people think all liberals are on welfare and want money from the gov't. I have never in my life been on welfare and I am far from lazy.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls I'm confused, your background is from some other guys page? As for liberals being entitled ot their beliefs, of course! But that doesn't mean they're right sir.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls And you were never a republican. Every day I see liberals claiming to once have been republicans because they think it will make their pointless argument credible, but they're wrong, as always. Sooo, you're proud of being a child rapist....yeah, that makes you lose all credibility pertaining to all subjects, because you're just pure evil. Does your parole officer know you get on YouTube to defend your raping of "kiddies" as oyu call them?
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
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Tell me what the GOP vote solely on. Can't wait for you to put a spin on it.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
I guess their are some black people really trying to get into the country club. That is crazy.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
@blackisbeautiful09 Wow, what a completely stupid, racist, generalized statement, coming form a "love all, peace seeking, can't we all just get along, accept homosexuality and abortion" loving liberal. Interesting. Sooo, you think it's wrong for blacks and whites to be members of the same country club....you're the equivalent of white slave owners in 1865. And by the way, it's *there, not their.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8 I have said nothing racist honey. Believe me. Someone like you with no class would call me a racist. So take your comments to somebody who cares. Second your hanging with white slave owners from 1865at the country clubs. They just go under a different name now.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
@blackisbeautiful09 Conservative ideals are what freed the slaves. Liberals to this day use racism to get what they want, and to control black people. Thank God black republicans are standing up against Obama's racist administration. And for your info, my family didn't move here until 1933, soooo, yeah, wrong again.How racist is that? You think because I'm not black my ancestors hung people. You judge based on race. Don't forget it was white people that freed slaves too.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
why are you going to lie to this person like that?? you know we went over that before..
you *know* conservative ideology is NOT what freed the slaves...
smh.. and on top of that, you don't even notice the arrogance of your statements.
white people freed the slaves??? are people supposed to respect that after it was white people that enslaved them in the first place for hundreds of years??
smh...
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Thank you. It was not conservative ideology that freed the slaves. The emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the states that seceded from the Union. That means states that stayed in the Union who had slaves were allowed to keep them. Also Abraham Lincoln wanted the war to be more about bring those states back to the Union and not slavery but it ended up being more about freeing the slaves. Don't get me wrong I am glad the slaves were freed believe me
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago 2
@blackisbeautiful09
very true... not many people know the truth about the emancipation proclamation. nowadays, the popular belief is that it's what freed the slaves and lincoln is a great hero for it..
also, ironcladlady8 likes to hijack good liberal ideas and credit them to conservatives. republicans might be conservatives now, but before the mid 1900's, they were liberal and democrats were conservatives... we had a conversation about this before, but i guess she conveniently forgot.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Not true. The conservative ideal concerning race is there shouldn't be any. It shouldn't be recognized at all, for any reason. We are all people, and should behave as such. The fact that I'm white or female should earn me nothing, but should also not inhibit me, and the same for any other race and the male gender. These were the ideals of the people that fought to free slaves.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
that's ridiculous. color-blindness is not the way to defeat racism.. it's to accept that different skin-toned people exist and to embrace it instead of attack it.
you think sex and race should just all of a sudden be ignored in a world dominated by white men???
that's pretty convenient huh?? when white men are at the top of the totem pole, after having benefited from a sexist, racist society for thousands of years, all of a sudden NOW you want everything to be even? lol!
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon
that's like going into a boxing match, and me fighting somebody with brass knuckles.. then at round 6 say, "ok, i was cheating, but let's forget about that and all the damage i've done to your face.. from round 7 on, i'll take off my brass knuckles and we'll fight on even terms"
ignoring race and sex after milenia of sexism and racism is the same as ignoring the damage caused by racism and sexism. as if they're not a factor on where minorities and women are today in society.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Today, many liberals believe being a certain race should get you something, or inhibit others, and that's as far from equality as we can get! It makes the whole civil rights movement and civil war vain.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
social liberals are the least among people who believe in racism.. don't you remember? social liberals are the ones that fight for the rights of LGBT's, minorities, and every marginalized member of society.
you're assuming something that's not true...
and the civil war was not fought for the rights of any minorities.. it was for political-economic interests... which is what every war in history is based on...
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon I don't know what smh means, forgive me but I'm new to this. As for respect, yes, there should be some respect, just as they respect the blacks that fought for civil rights. The only reason I wrote that is because some people only remember the bad. Whites enslaved black people, but they also set them free sir. If true equality and peace is what we want to achieve together, we must let go of our pasts and become at peace with each other now, and forget what anyone's color is.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
smh= shake my head. welcome to the internet. lol! oh, lol = laugh out loud.
anyway, you have to remember to be a little more conscious of the way you express yourself...
besides the fact that white people did not free slaves or fight for civil rights on their own accord or because it just occured to them that it was the right thing to do (except for the white liberals that took pity on blacks), you come off as arrogant...
as if you were saying, "look you ungrateful
cont...
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon
little niggers. we decided to stop fucking you over and set you free a while ago. so stop your bitching and pull yourself from your bootstraps"
it sounds incredibly arrogant and as if you still had the mentality that blacks were actually a property or a pet to be "freed"
and like i said, you're ignoring the fact that the race-based inequality that lasted 100's of years affects people in society today and it wouldn't be fair to just say, "ok, forget the past, we're all even now"
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon And the top part of this comment is inaccurate, because a most of the union army came form families that had never enslaved anyone of any race, so these people that fought for the union were never in cahoots with what was going on down south. Blacks are not property, but they were freed. Once anyone is enslaved, the must be freed, I'm not sure what other word you would pick. Why isn't it fair to forget the past? Living in the past is debilitating to the present.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
it doesn't matter who owned slaves or not. the civil war wasn't fought in an effort to free slaves, or to give blacks equal rights.. (obviously, because they didn't get equal rights) the problem the north had with the south was based on other things. learn the history.
you don't just forget the past. if you forget the past, you forget how it is you got to be where you are now... would you pardon all criminals because their crimes happened in the past?
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon They didn't receive equal rights immediately, but today we have a black president in America, a beautiful black Miss America, so black people can now achieve everything white people have ever achieved. No one told you to forget the past, I am all for remembering the past and the blood that was shed to free us ALL, put I am totally against living in it. You want to live in the past, then that's the way things will stay.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
again i ask you, do you think there's gender equality in pakistan because they've had a female president?
do you think gender issues should be ignored in pakistan because people should "look past gender" in order to make everything equal??
if we just ignore the inequalities caused by race and gender discrimination, you really think it'll fix itself??
if you believe that, you're incredibly naive and illogical... in fact, there would be no point in furthering the conversation..
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon It's interesting to me that you say we shouldn't forget the past, but are you against waving the confederate flag? Are you against the mosque being built in a place where horrible history happened?
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
i'm not any more against waving the confederate flag than i am against waving the nazi flag...
and i'm not against building a mosque close to the where 9/11 took place any more than i am against building a church in places where christianity has been used to enslave, torture, terrorize, and murder people...
(crusades, inquisitions, witch hunts, colonialism, slavery, IRA, scott roeder, tim mcveigh, eric rudolph... any of that ring a bell?)
take it how you will...
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be seen for the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Martin Luther King didn't want race to be recognized, neither did thousands of people that fought for civil rights, so why are you robbing them of that? Why won't you see them for their accomplishments and their character instead of their skin color? Have they not earned it?
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
seriously??? you apparently haven't heard any other MLK speech have you? in fact, i bet you haven't heard that specific speech in its entirety..
it never ceases to amaze me how often that small quote is taken out of context and made to represent MLK's entire philosophy..
out of the thousands of speeches MLK made.. only that one sentence is picked.. how very convenient..
don't talk about MLK or his beliefs if all you know about him is that one line...
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Romans 13:12
The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light.
Letting go of the past enables us to build a fruitful present, and even future! I focus on the positive, and that is the fact that we are ALL equal, and we now have a black president and nobody can be held back by race anymore. Or sex for that matter, let's not forget women were enslaved thousands of years longer than blacks.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
what that verse has to do with your point, i don't know... but like i said, we're NOT all equal. throughout history, events have taken place that put certain groups of people in a better position in society. you can't just say, "let's all be color-blind and equal now." it's incredibly naive.
btw, do you also think pakistani women have equal position as men in society because pakistan has had a female head of state?
obama being president is not proof of anything...
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon The verse means let go of the evils of the past, and embrace the new at hand. We may not all BE equal, but we all have the opportunity to be equal. Pakistani are equal to men in the eyes of God who created them, if they would embrace that they could free themselves form the bondage those men put them under. Tell me why we shouldn't be color blind? Tell me why race matters at all.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
being equal in the eyes of God and equal in the eyes of society are two very different things..
pakistani women can't just "free themselves." they, along with minorities in the US and around the world, have been oppressed and marginalized for hundreds of years. you have opportunities and resources that some minorities will never see. you have the privilege of being white in a society that, consciously or not, has, and continues to, benefit you over minorities...
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon They are two very different things, but since Pakistani women or others like them cannot free themselves, it is up to us to help them, and give them the opportunities that are such a luxury to us.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
so you DO accept that pakistani women are marginalized in their society, even after having a female elected head of state.. not once, but twice. even with that fact, you still wouldn't dream of saying that sexism doesn't exist anymore in pakistan.
yet, somehow having a mulatto president in the US is proof of racism being overcome in the US??
get over it.. racism exists. our society is racist.. it doesn't make you a bad person.. just a product of your environment.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Why would I say sexism doesn't exist in Pakistan? Or anywhere else for that matter? You're wrong all over the place. If a mulatto, as oyu say, can become president, then what does that mean? And saying you're a product of your environment is an excuse, and a bad one at that. You choose to be who you are. I grew up in a poor home and around degenerates that made consistently bad choices, yet I became the complete opposite because I chose to.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
i don't understand what you're arguing about..
you make my point and i'm not sure you even realize it...
A woman can become president even in a sexist society just like a black/mulatto man can become president in a racist society.
that doesn't negate the fact that sexism/racism is still a problem and that women and minorities are marginalized...
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Now you seem to have misunderstood me. Perhaps I haven't been clear. There's racism everywhere, but it's not holding anybody back, not here at least. the white Christian male is the most discriminated against person in the world, not just the US. This current administration has divided this country racially more than any administration in the past, and maybe the Pakistani presidents are doing the same, it's all about controlling what they believe are the weaker or dumber persons.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
that comment is the biggest joke i've ever heard. i literally lol'd..
so racism exists, but it doesn't hold anybody back?? lol! then what exactly do you see as the negative aspect of racism? i mean, if it doesn't hold anybody back, there's nothing wrong with racism..
and you say THIS admin had divided the country racially??? really?? more so than jackson? roosevelt? wilson? lol!! that's an incredibly ignorant thing to say..
just watch those vids i sent you..
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Of course it does! This is what I've been telling you the entire time! It holds the racist back. Yes, this administration is the worst, by far. those presidents that you just listed were living in a country that was dividing itself, but Obama's done it all on his own.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
the racist is held back?? lol! what about the *victim* of racism?
i don't even know if you're following your own line of argument.
either way, you seem incredibly naive and sheltered from the realities of racism in your country... it's really a shame..
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon You call me naive because I'm positive. It effects the racist because it's negativity and hatred, which are both destructive. Sure there's unfairness in the world, yeah, maybe I won't get paid as much somewhere because I don't have a penis, but I'll just keep on keepin' on until I get what I'm worth. You can't let people that hate you keep you down, because there is always someone out there that hates you.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
i call you naive because you're ignorant of other peoples reality. there's nothing positive about that.
i admire your perseverance. thats great, but it doesn't negate the fact that sexism has a negative effect on you and has possibly put roadblocks in your way that men wouldn't have (which gives men an advantage).. you live with that, but it doesn't mean it shouldn't change.
racism also exists and i live with it... but i shouldn't have to just "get over it." i want it to change
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Oh, sexism doesn't hurt me at all, my boobs get me ahead....LOL. And yes, I know that's sexism :) Get over the past, I never said ignore what happens today.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon I really hope you're not 15 considering I just used the word penis.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
lol! it's ok. i'm comfortable with my maturity level..
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon It matters to me! If you're 15 I don't want your mom hopping on here and givin' me down the road.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
well then i'm sure it would comfort you to know that we're nearly the same age, if you're bio has your real age..
put it this way, i'm old enough to buy us drinks in your country... if you actually drank alcohol.
even better, my mother is a thousand miles away, so you don't have to worry about her catching us talking dirty... lol
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon It's my real age. And that's good, because even though I have good intentions, I'd had to apologize profusely to an angry mom.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
don't worry, i think my mother knows i'm old enough to get into conversations with the word "penis" in them.. even if they're said with bad intentions.
besides, whether for good or for bad, it would be hard to act on those bad intentions over the internet.. lol
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
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@elnegrobembon True :)
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Well I just want you to know even though we bickered for a while I think you're very well spoken and intelligent, and I've enjoyed talking to you. i wish you only the best, and hope no one mistreats you for for any reason. Believe it or not, I get a lot of women being mean to me that don't even know me. Sexism exists among the same sexes as well ;(
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
as well does racism exist among the same races.. but you have to keep on moving in spite of all that, as well as try to point out the problems and try to fix them even when they're ignored by society.
and no hard feelings from me either.. i also enjoy seeing people's points of views, especially if theyre different from mine.
so i wish a merry christmas to you.. and since you enjoy alcohol only twice a year, i hope you really enjoy it and i'll def toast for a happy new year for you
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Aww, thanks! And I hope you have a good New years too, and Christmas if you celebrate it :)
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon *have to
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon And I do drink alcohol. People think Christians are so uptight, I drink at least twice a year ;)
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
lol!!! i'm sure one of those happy, annual, alcohol-drinking moments for you is coming up very soon...
amen to that.. lol!
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Oh indeed! I know, I'm so decent it's boring, but hey, I can't help it.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon How old are you?
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
slightly younger than you physically...
i have my doubts if you're mentally older than me though... lol
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Well that was rude.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Here's the gigantic problem, it's people like me that are accused of being racist and I am nothing of the sort. The real racists out there are the people trying to hold them down, keep them under control, and those people almost always fall on the liberal side. They make it look like they're helping them, but in fact it's just a way to have a toe hold over them. Point is, there is no such thing as unequal.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon So you're basically saying nothing is ever good enough, that people shall have to pay forever for the crimes their ancestors committed? That even though we have a black president, they as a race are still completely held back. Your argument is falling apart.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
it's not a matter of placing guilt on people.. it's a matter of a society taking responsibility for its members that have been marginalized and treated as second-class... whether or not it was you built this type of social caste-system that caused this type of oppression on minorities and benefits you is irrelevant.
you may not be guilty of its foundation, but you still have a responsibility..
i suggest you look up "tim wise" here in youtube for a different perspective on this.
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Oppression no longer exists in America, so what would be the point?
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8
just as i thought.. you're incredibly naive if you think oppression, marginalization, and inequality doesn't exist in the US today...
just remember, your experience is not universal. believe it or not, racism still exists, people are discriminated against, and there are inequalities based on racial lines..
of course, if you live in a fairy tale land oblivious to reality, then you would think that..
like i said before, i recommend searching "tim wise" and watch some of his vids
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Maybe this crap is still going on in Denmark, which is where I thought your page said you're from, but in America, if you are uneducated, a criminal, or anything of the like, it's your fault, not histories, not slave owners, not your momma and daddy's, yours. It's the people that constantly blame others that remain where they are. It's the ones that get over it and get on with it that become happy and successful.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@elnegrobembon Arrogance shouldn't be confused with certainty. I'm not better than anyone in any way, but I believe all Americans, white, black, whatever color, owe our freedom to all colors. Whites and blacks fought in the civil war. We all know freedom isn't free, I just don't want anyone to forget that.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
@IronCladLady8 You talk about President Obama being racist Are you serious? You need to look at the Republican party before you call somebody racist in Obama's administration. Look what Republicans are now trying to do to Michael Steele. I did not say anything about your ancestors you said that one. I know my history honey. I know who freed the slaves. Are we suppose to kiss some white people asses?.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago 2
@IronCladLady8
Also, I find it odd after you continue to support Rush Limbaugh, a terrible sickness in my party, even after he came back from child-sex tourism in the Dominican republic with a bottle of viagra to prove it. If I didn't know any better, I'd say that if anti-pedo laws didn't exist in this country, you'd totally whore your pile of children out to that child-molesting piece of shit. Go back to your trailer you inbred cancer to my party.
7h3br1ckb4lls 1 year ago
@7h3br1ckb4lls I don't see how anyone can support Rush Limbaugh. His hypocrisy kills me everytime.
blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago 2
@7h3br1ckb4lls Hmmm, forgive me but I've never heard of this. As for the last line of your comment, I see it unnecessary to insult me because I stood up for the innocence of children. I've not insulted you, I'd appreciate it if you'd not insult me.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
The woman in the blue, LOVE HER! "Thanks goodness the republicans won."
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
Token Uncle Toms
KingNative1 1 year ago
@KingNative1 If you can, read the book and then try the names again.
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
I didn't vote for Barrack Obama. I didn't vote for him because his policies suck, not because he's half black. It's racist and ignorant to vaote for someone because of their skin color. I don't like John McCain that much, but he would of been better than Barrack. These people on this video are my brothers and sisters. I love them. We conservatives need to stand together against the tyrrany of the leftist agenda. God Bless conservatives
DoublePrimo44004 1 year ago
Evidence that MLK was Reub.? Hell listen to his niece, as well as other family members speak of his values. History research is a wonderful thing...try it sometime. In a survey that blocked the political platform, 90% of blacks stood for conservative values. However, 88% of blacks vote liberal or Dem. Why you ask? Because many blacks have been "tricked" by the Dems agenda, with help from crooks and pimps like "supposed" Rev Jackson and Rev Sharpton, who make their living off keeping blacks down
MegaManMax1 1 year ago
Evidence that MLK was Reub.? Hell listen to his niece, as well as other family members speak of his values. History research is a wonderful thing...try it sometime.
MegaManMax1 1 year ago
Evidence that MLK was Reub.? Hell listen to his niece, as well as other family members speak of his values. History research is a wonderful...try it sometime.
MegaManMax1 1 year ago
@MegaManMax1
Boy are you confused. His son stated that he never endorsed a political party. However, he did support JFK (as well as King,Sr.) when RFK got him out of prison, and he supported LBJ because of his views on civil rights. Education........try it sometime. :-)
highwater03 1 year ago
star parker does not know what the hell she's talking about. She's a factually challenged bitch. Ward Connerly is a Tom f*ck him too.
th2k4 1 year ago
uncle tom women wow i wonder if they suck a racist dick?
billybob101013 1 year ago
@billybob101013 So billybob (small b's), do you really think your continued display of racist ignorance is going to make us stop talking because YOU can recite insults?
You're touching yourself again.
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
These Nig*** Crazy!
How if u black u gonna vote agaist the first black president !? WTF!
Geezo10 1 year ago
@Geezo10 Ebonics translation, anyone?
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
@BlackAndRight Don't kid yourself u know exactly what the f*ck i'm talking about. With what black people have been through in this country they look crazy as hell to not be supporting the first electable black man to ever come along.Sometimes you have to put politics aside and try something new despite your political affiliations.The white people in the audience must be thinking STUPID Nig****
Geezo10 1 year ago
@Geezo10 No, in my experience it's arrogant, spelling-challenged, undisciplined and supervised punk asses like you who refer to blacks as STUPID Nig**** because it takes a lot of courage to use hate speech on an ISP your parents pay for on a computer you never worked to earn. You are irrelevant.
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
@BlackAndRight Negro please go suck on a Dixie Dick.
th2k4 1 year ago
@Geezo10 I'm not thinking it..I already KNOW it as fact. anyone bringing race into anything is a retard so YES, you are a stupid nigg*r and so is any white retard that agrees with you.
lilhungarianjenny 1 year ago
@BlackAndRight
you need a translation for traditional african-american argot and idioms?
i would think that a self-described black american wouldn't need a translation.... that is, if you're not too disconnected from cultural ties to black society in the US. in which case, it would be very ironic.....if your comment was really serious and you weren't simply, purposefully trying to sound like a douchebag..
elnegrobembon 1 year ago
@Geezo10 And here it is folks, why our country is falling apart. Liberals vote solely based on race.
IronCladLady8 1 year ago
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blackisbeautiful09 1 year ago
You know, I thought about it and maybe that was poor wording on my part. While I don't agree with the liberal point of view It doesn't mean I cant be a brother to someone who has that point of view I mean I have a biological brother who is a liberal and I can't stand his point of view but I guess I don't love him any less. I just get frustrated with him.
jallen6243 1 year ago
Why didnt they show Uncle Rukus when we went up there to speak and received a standing ovation. LOL
thecaliforniaknight 1 year ago
LOL!
My only admiration of black republicans is their tolerance of being called a monkey and a nigger by supporters of GOP Canidates like the people at the McCain/Palin rallies and at the rallies in west Pennsylvania where the whites were saying that Obama would be a "Monkey President" The most curious thing was that no other republican tried to put an end to the hate rhetoric.TYPICAL!
Solowizard 1 year ago
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@Solowizard
"My only admiration of black republicans is their tolerance of being called a monkey and a nigger by supporters of GOP Canidates"
bingo. They don't even realize how much these people hate blacks. lol
highwater03 1 year ago
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kevinvaughnisdumb 1 year ago
rocks, trees and animals over the welfare of human beings ... really ... with tears while you say that...lets talk about stereotyping..."war mongers"
johnsons social policies were successful in the minority communities. during this period the black community became more active in politics, increased voting, took local and national offices. the policies ultimately failed because a conservative neo-liberal model, afraid of black people in politics, waged war against the concept.
kevinvaughnisdumb 1 year ago
Thank god black folks are becoming republican more and more. I think the man up stairs is starting a movement. I will consider you all my brothers and sisters.
jallen6243 1 year ago
@jallen6243
So you consider us your brothers and sisters when we support your idealogies. Wow thats very telling.
thecaliforniaknight 1 year ago
@thecaliforniaknight
Absolutley, my point being that race means absolutley nothing to me, my point being is that the content of your charicter is the important thing, not the color of your skin. Yea I believe that was a phrase MLK used. Yea and he was a conservative republican to. Liberals are a serious threat to my way of life so yea I support my previous statement
jallen6243 1 year ago
@jallen6243
What solid evidence is there that MLK Jr was conservative or a republican.
thecaliforniaknight 1 year ago
@thecaliforniaknight
none
highwater03 1 year ago
I dont see how black republicans can take Manahattan when the seats werent even filled and most of the people there were white.
thecaliforniaknight 1 year ago
These are who Malcolm X referred to as "House Nig****"
tikurgisila 1 year ago
@tikurgisila Let's see now... people like you have been kissing Democrat ass for how many decades and look how great the black community is today. You go on kissing Democrat ass. They love it when you attack us because it further weakens you.
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
It's amazing that these people go back to the 1800's and say how republicans helped black rights and helped end slavery but then again are the same ones who would say people should get over slavery.
111chicity 1 year ago
infuriating
19770326 1 year ago
Well, diversity within the GOP is steady coming out and this is definitely a good thing for them. However, how long will it take before certain stigmas can be erased for groups of color who are part of the modern day GOP ideology?
BigBrotherWii 1 year ago
you're just mad cause you are a sellout thats all too it.that is why you are quick too respond back you stupid NIGGER not NIGGA NIGGER. LOVE YOURSELF and stop loving the ones that HATE YOU NIGGER.
mz809grl 1 year ago
this guy the black republican is a straightup uncle tom. the type dude that needs to be loved by whites to feel good about his self we have the first black president an the fool feels the need to talk smack boy i tell ya you black ppl have no character. yous r my people and i love yous and its not our doing why we r like this them devils stole are sense of who we really were
mz809grl 1 year ago
@mz809grl Get a dictionary, learn how to spell so you don't look as ignorant as we black republicans, and we'll talk.
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
@mz809grl Get a dictionary, learn how to spell so you don't look as ignorant as we black republicans, and we'll talk.
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
black people are so freaking lost is unbelievable so easy to be mislead
mz809grl 1 year ago
@mz809grl And YOU know it all. And who is YOU...?
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
God Bless All Republicans!!!!
ImKavkazy 1 year ago
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Black Republicans are patriots, not uncle tom's. The sad thing about liberals and progressives, they don't like it when black (un-hyphenated) Americans have minds of their own. It's a lot easier to control people when you can brainwash them into thinking they're victims of everyone and everything. "Uncle Tom" is just another slur by liberals used to describe anyone who thinks for themselves & does not agree with their radical agenda.
BlackRepublican2010 1 year ago
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Black Republicans are patriots, not uncle tom's. The sad thing about liberals and progressives, they don't like it when black (un-hyphenated) Americans have minds of their own. It's a lot easier to control people when you can brainwash them into thinking they're victims of everyone and everything. "Uncle Tom" is just another slur by liberals used to describe anyone who thinks for themselves & does not agree with their radical agenda.
BlackRepublican2010 1 year ago
This is such a true video... Let the truth be told. Great Video.
maxine607 1 year ago
The Republican Party pretends to be for White conservatives but it is just part of the two party sham system. They are just as anti-White as the Democrats. Come join the National Alliance so we can keep these woolly headed thick lipped baboons from turning America into a third World sewer. You can view their web site just type in National Alliance.
MrBEB123 1 year ago
We need more Black Republicans.
BlackRepublican2010 1 year ago 5
@BlackRepublican2010 WHY?
jessibabi88 1 year ago
@BlackRepublican2010 Ya got that right. Amen Brother
kevyster 1 year ago
Look up "uncle tom', stupid.
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
@BlackAndRight Do Not fear them. There are more Real Americans like you and I than they are racist libtards and their House slaves in denial like Billybob and Jessibabi88. In support of Ken Gladney: "We're NOT Going to take it anymore.
Rot in Hell SSEIU.
kevyster 1 year ago
so many uncle toms in one place wow!
toothpickdinner 1 year ago
billybob101013, you might be taken seriously if you didn't spell like an ignorant fuck that should be pitied... NOT.
BlackAndRight 1 year ago
there stupid nigga are worry about the civil war fuck there backward an not in the real world they dont see all the olds white rednecks in the republicans so they go back to the civil war give me a break uncle toms
billybob101013 1 year ago
wow uncle tom women?