Hum his normal attack kinda suck and as he counters everything I would say Counter Materia is the way to go (and it's kind of a reference to the original fight where you auto-counter if attacked.... suits you ^^)
I watch the vid only once (and in fact I jumped once or twice) so I can't say how the Octaslash is trigerred, probably after a number of received attack (which will make my previous strat even better) or after a number of turn (then Final Attack + Revive is mandatory)
What do you regard as Sephiroth's normal attack by the way? ^^ Octaslash is triggered whenever Sephiroth sustains a certain amount of damage, which does indeed make Final Attack + Revive necessary.
@NEroNeRoNerON errr... I bet I have missed a big attack ^^' Still, I'm talking about HyperNova, Firaga, Blizzaga, Quake and the likes.... (Meteor,Cure3 and Shield being counters)
Since none of the normal attack are OHKO, going all-out with CounterAttack Materia may be effective.... In fact Defense won't matter much in that case (Octaslash can't be survived, -ga spell plain sucks, HyperNova is MAX HP based)
@HeartlessKuja Actually, Meteor and Shield aren't counter attacks, only Cure3 and Curse are. As a matter of fact, for some reason Sephiroth's AI did not work the way I had intended it to be, which is why I had to resort to some rather unusual methods. As a result, his "..." textline is basically Sephiroth's only main attack...^^
@NEroNeRoNerON *after rewatching the vids* Well, no clue about how to defeat the thing but I have a clearer idea of the AI --Counters : Curse at random Cure3 against non-limit attacks --On death : Octaslash --Phase 1 : (M for Meteor) M - Fire - M - Ice - M - Thunder - M - Quake (shield if necessary) --Phase 2 : M (shield if necessary) --Phase 3 : HyperNova (31/32 of MAX HP, absorb, HP disease) - Psychosis (absorb) Still unknow : Slaughter of a virgin Physical immunity ? Wrong somewhere ?
@HeartlessKuja Your observations are astonishingly accurate. To be precise though, and even though this is not shown in the video, Sephiroth will cast Ultima in Phase 1 after Quake and he will cast only those spells that are neither nullified nor absorbed by Cloud.
Slaughter of a virgin will be used constantly during Phase 4, which makes it necessary to skip Phase 4, as Slaughter of a Virgin means Game Over.
@NEroNeRoNerON Ooops my bad. Cure3 can be used after Limit as well
Octaslash is used after being hit for 70 000 ~ 100 000 damage
I first thought it was supossed to go from Phase 1 to Phase 2 once it did all Phase 1 attacks, but as he starts Phase 2 (aka Meteor Spamming) before Ultima, it's likely it goes into Phase 2 after using Octaslash or (and ?) after being hit by a Limit.
If it is the second choice, then avoiding Omnislash sounds good... but a bit too easy
@HeartlessKuja Actually, Cure3 is used every second turn Sephiroth is damaged. Octaslash is employed after having lost 89,999 HP of damage. Meteor is not reflectable. In fact, its damage is not affected by Cloud's stats.
@HeartlessKuja The problem with miming Omnislash is that Omnislash does considerable damage only after 3-4 Hero Drinks have been used, which means that Final Attack -> Omnislash would not be too effective. Still, that strategy or a slight variation thereof would probably still be sufficient to slay Sephiroth.
@HeartlessKuja Yes, KotR would still work, which is probably the easiest way to win this battle. Demi is effective as well, even though I doubt tthat his would be a very feasible method. As a matter of fact, Sephiroth does not use any MP other than for Cure3, Shield and the other Phase 1 magical attacks. Therefore, there is not much sense in draining his MP. ;]
Another viciously difficult hack you've made. This one doesn't quite seem as puzzle-themed as the others but we'll see. He seems to react to everything with Cure3/Meteor/Shield or a mix of the three. When you showed his death, I was surprised you didn't add some cheap final attack to the AI as always... and then he [his ghost?] busts out with that.
Nice setup, though, and beyond that, nice choice. This should have been a battle instead of a cinematic experience in the original game.
Hack fights in FF games are so intresting for some odd reason "FFV,VI and VII".
Now if someone makes hack fights for FFIX... :<
Lindaru 1 week ago
@Lindaru It won't be me, I am afraid. :(
NEroNeRoNerON 1 week ago
@NEroNeRoNerON Sad...
I thought I will see this too v.v
Yuna5422 1 week ago
@Lindaru the problem is, there is no PC version of ff9, it's very very difficult to hack the roms. It's really not worth the effort.
VashFanboy1 1 week ago
Download link please.
36256564874847848487 1 month ago
@36256564874847848487 There is not one yet. I might create one though. Do you know how to use ProudClod?
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
@NEroNeRoNerON I never used It, but It looks pretty easy :P Does It work with PSX version?
36256564874847848487 1 month ago
@36256564874847848487 Sadly, it is PC version only, as are all of my hacks.
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
@NEroNeRoNerON Oh well. I'll search for FFVII PSX editors.
36256564874847848487 1 month ago
Wie immer sehr gute arbeit!
EmptyDark19900 1 month ago
@EmptyDark19900 Danke sehr! ;]
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
"Have it your way" *Casts ascention* then casts Cosmo Memory to complitely erasing you from existance..oh dear god what have you created NEro!? :(
Lindaru 1 month ago
@Lindaru This is just what Sephiroth's true power should look like. ;]
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
Metal.
NinjaPBrown 1 month ago
Hum his normal attack kinda suck and as he counters everything I would say Counter Materia is the way to go (and it's kind of a reference to the original fight where you auto-counter if attacked.... suits you ^^)
I watch the vid only once (and in fact I jumped once or twice) so I can't say how the Octaslash is trigerred, probably after a number of received attack (which will make my previous strat even better) or after a number of turn (then Final Attack + Revive is mandatory)
Happy new year BTW
HeartlessKuja 1 month ago
@HeartlessKuja Happy New Year to you as well.
What do you regard as Sephiroth's normal attack by the way? ^^ Octaslash is triggered whenever Sephiroth sustains a certain amount of damage, which does indeed make Final Attack + Revive necessary.
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
@NEroNeRoNerON errr... I bet I have missed a big attack ^^' Still, I'm talking about HyperNova, Firaga, Blizzaga, Quake and the likes.... (Meteor,Cure3 and Shield being counters)
Since none of the normal attack are OHKO, going all-out with CounterAttack Materia may be effective.... In fact Defense won't matter much in that case (Octaslash can't be survived, -ga spell plain sucks, HyperNova is MAX HP based)
Probably wrong here but that's my opinion ^^
(I really like the remix of the Castle BTW)
HeartlessKuja 1 month ago
@HeartlessKuja Actually, Meteor and Shield aren't counter attacks, only Cure3 and Curse are. As a matter of fact, for some reason Sephiroth's AI did not work the way I had intended it to be, which is why I had to resort to some rather unusual methods. As a result, his "..." textline is basically Sephiroth's only main attack...^^
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
HeartlessKuja 1 month ago
@HeartlessKuja Your observations are astonishingly accurate. To be precise though, and even though this is not shown in the video, Sephiroth will cast Ultima in Phase 1 after Quake and he will cast only those spells that are neither nullified nor absorbed by Cloud.
Slaughter of a virgin will be used constantly during Phase 4, which makes it necessary to skip Phase 4, as Slaughter of a Virgin means Game Over.
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
@NEroNeRoNerON Ooops my bad. Cure3 can be used after Limit as well
Octaslash is used after being hit for 70 000 ~ 100 000 damage
I first thought it was supossed to go from Phase 1 to Phase 2 once it did all Phase 1 attacks, but as he starts Phase 2 (aka Meteor Spamming) before Ultima, it's likely it goes into Phase 2 after using Octaslash or (and ?) after being hit by a Limit.
If it is the second choice, then avoiding Omnislash sounds good... but a bit too easy
Is Meteor... reflectable ? :P
HeartlessKuja 1 month ago
@HeartlessKuja Actually, Cure3 is used every second turn Sephiroth is damaged. Octaslash is employed after having lost 89,999 HP of damage. Meteor is not reflectable. In fact, its damage is not affected by Cloud's stats.
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
@NEroNeRoNerON Yes, I saw that Meteor was doing 1500 * 6 no matter the number of Hero Drink.
Well then, what about : Final Attack + Mime, Final Attack + Mine, Final Attack + Life
Miming Omnislash (the goal being defeat the beast before Phase 3 or 4)
So basically : 4 cut -3k (due to cure3, useful to make sure he uses Octaslash after), Heroes Drink * 4, Omnislash -90k (take Octaslash) Omnislash * 2 -180k
(take Octaslash) Omnislash * 2 win ^^
That's cheap anyway but challenge will wait for later :P
HeartlessKuja 1 month ago
@HeartlessKuja The problem with miming Omnislash is that Omnislash does considerable damage only after 3-4 Hero Drinks have been used, which means that Final Attack -> Omnislash would not be too effective. Still, that strategy or a slight variation thereof would probably still be sufficient to slay Sephiroth.
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
@NEroNeRoNerON Well without Omnislash, the only other option are magical piercing attacks or gravity attacks.
Or maybe, you have to drain all his MP ?
HeartlessKuja 1 month ago
@HeartlessKuja Yes, KotR would still work, which is probably the easiest way to win this battle. Demi is effective as well, even though I doubt tthat his would be a very feasible method. As a matter of fact, Sephiroth does not use any MP other than for Cure3, Shield and the other Phase 1 magical attacks. Therefore, there is not much sense in draining his MP. ;]
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
Another viciously difficult hack you've made. This one doesn't quite seem as puzzle-themed as the others but we'll see. He seems to react to everything with Cure3/Meteor/Shield or a mix of the three. When you showed his death, I was surprised you didn't add some cheap final attack to the AI as always... and then he [his ghost?] busts out with that.
Nice setup, though, and beyond that, nice choice. This should have been a battle instead of a cinematic experience in the original game.
Kiptracx 1 month ago
@NEroNeRoNerON oh
epicfail3913 1 month ago
lol no chance against sephis octaslash :D
MaroMaro1993 1 month ago
Cool remix. Cool video.
TheParagonify 1 month ago
@TheParagonify Thanks.
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
u coulda gone w/o healing cuz of insta revive :o
epicfail3913 1 month ago
@epicfail3913 Yeah, but Final Attack==Revive will work only 5 times.
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago
lol u got overkilled at 4 mins XD
epicfail3913 1 month ago
I love watching this mods/hacks.
ReskerVideos 1 month ago
@ReskerVideos I love hearing that.
NEroNeRoNerON 1 month ago