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  • -_- your the type of people who ruined the game , I cant enjoy a long full game without a noob like you who cant win without rushing -_-

  • @TheAwwWtf On the contrary, I find people like you who kill the experience.

    I'm looking for a fast action packed match and then oh no, he's spamming defenses, now I'm forced to adapt to that and the match takes a few minutes longer than it should, while remaining to be an easy task.

    Waste of time imo. Although, this game is old as ever now,  I haven't really bothered with online since around the time I made this video.

    Great game though, can only hope they don't screw up Generals 2.

  • @jonnyknows no the game is about building a large army and destroying large bases . Not destroying 3 or 4 buildings -_- , I get bored any time I rush its the same shit over and over . Get the same guys put them in the same plane drop them off and destory the same 4 buildings and calling your self pro -_-

    Me and my brothers always have a fun large scale game with 10 mins no rush so we can have a all out war . but instead you choose the cheap ass way which is really noobie

  • @TheAwwWtf

    Back when I used to commentate for red alert 3, I used to look for games that were interesting.

    There is a common theme between good players and bad players, bad players matches tend to be slow paced and often lack constant action.

    When two good players battle the action starts from minute 1, the next move is already predetermined as the match goes on, rarely do you see pro players sit for a while doing nothing.

    "Rushing" is a test of reflex, quick thinking, and reading the enemy.

  • @jonnyknows rushing has nothing to do with thinking, it's like any other skills (doing the same thing every time you start the game) but thinking or leading your team to win no matter how large your opponent is, depends on the creativity of the player, creativity helps to improvise plans. this is the point of strategy games

    btw back when i first played generals, i used to be a rusher loading humvees' with missile defenders and rangers w/ flash grenades and blow the shit out someone..

  • @TheA10Phonex Yeah, it's like that until you fight someone better than you. Then you need to know what you're looking at and how you're going to adapt to it.

    Cause in rts gaming it's not how well you can complete your routines.

    In this genre you have to learn to adapt to situations, and that requires thinking and understanding.

    All in plays are just fingers crossed and do your best. For the most part you are correct, but what we call rushing, is actually normal(pro) play.

  • @TheAwwWtf its about winning.

  • @VerrucktO its about enjoying the game and winning -_- its just stupid destorying around 5 buildings -_- I like to destroy alot of buildings and get a challenge not go the campaign and pick easy which is what rushing is like

  • @TheAwwWtf

    Rushing is about fast thinking and quick tactics, not to mention you need reflex and strong knowledge on just about everything, from unit damage radii and unit speed, where to correctly use the general powers, etc.

    There's a reason you lose to rushing, and it's because you don't understand it correctly.

    You don't need to rush, in order to stop rushes. The better player will almost always win, no matter his opponents strategy.

  • Sonic boom baby!!!!

  • how you do that

  • when you are playing against airforce in a rush game it is absolutely extremely necessary not to slack off you must always be on task and have everything out fast

  • Ive actually had some good matches where I was rushed into my base,

    and almost lost,even sold my command center,

    and yet i kept surviving,made a comeback,build a command center again eventually,and played over an hour,and then I actually won.

    Never say never,selling your command center can actually work sometimes.

    And I wasnt playing against noob.

    He rushed my base very good and fast.

    It was in this very same map.

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  • Wow idiot... 3 quads + 2 rockets = gg Airforce general trick. Opponent was a nub.

  • Always love those players selling command centers, thye are so easily to set check-mate. I mostly play 1v1 matches as stealth general.

    Being the agressor is what I like to play against, cause they focus all on attack, which is pretty easily to defend against. After that, counter and kill the dozers and you win. A smart players puts one of his dozers in a chinook though, but still, when an attack like this one fails on me, I win 100%, these agressors don't have the troops to defend vs a counter

  • @OMGyoucheat

    Yeah, but this kills just about any random noob or even a few decent players off guard, but that's an "all in" move for ya. You win, or.. you lose.. badly.

  • If you think putting RPG soldiers into a Chinook is a cheap trick, you should see what I do with building my whole armed forces solely on Patriots and Auroras. 48 Auroras ought to make any enemy's day. ;)

  • I Play with my 3 friends 2v2 and i've never won,my friends play with gla stealth and china infantry,the gla guy build enormous defence,i cant come near them..i never won them :( xD

  • my stradegey is to just get a but load of stealth comaches lol

  • Lol this is what I do :D

  • my favorite stratagy is to get a team of king raptors on guard mode over an enemy base or troop rally zone so unless they got an army of bullet based aa weapons you can destroy an enemy and confuse the shit out of them since the planes load and go right back on there own you can mount smaller attacks on targets with auroras and appaches works with all US teams especialy if you send in tanks when they start scrambling quad cannons keep pathfinders for anti ground support with the tanks

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  • u sell it to be able to rush faster. and have a slight advantage, when ur gla its really np at all but its a risk with other armys

  • a good offense is a good defence

    a general once said:

    hit first

    hit hard

    hit fast

    good tactic btw

  • Comache spam would be 100% way better against gla with stelath and rocket pods missle defleckt or evade whatever is called this trick is gets screw if your playing against china even gla can fuck you with this if they send 2 terror to garrison cars

  • Ahahaha, classic AFG trolling GLA with PD lasers

  • i have a good tactic

    evryone nows they need defense and base but nobody try to get with the defense into the enemy base this is a god tactic i have train it from the first day when the game have born and the defense is the best offrensive

  • hey, why did you sell your command center?!?!? its way better and good becuz if you have all your dozers die your screwed!!

  • @MultiBigAndy

    Believe it or not 1000 more cash will help you at the start of the match, offense is the best defense.

  • @jonnyknows well i need more to survive whatever, but i use base defenses and some good tanks or alot like the hard computers do!!

  • @MultiBigAndy

    Defense won't win the war, surviving is not winning. If you are the aggressor then you won't need to worry about defending, but be sure you're able to recover from a failed attack. I sell my mcv because I'm confident in my ability to command my forces to victory, I don't fear the enemy!

    Well actually it's mostly because that's what the "pro" players do, so I will follow their footstep.

  • @jonnyknows mcv, eh?

  • @jonnyknows if only the enemy knew they'd blow up your dozers and then what?

  • @boss180888

    Actually, he did already loose all of his dozers.

  • @jonnyknows bad tactic :s..... if you start to fight and your bulldozer gets killed... youre fucked... you can't repair , build , nothing so... if your enemy destroys your suplie collector youre finished ;)

  • @jonnyknows dude, if u sold the command center, HOW DID U KEEP THE MAP ON!

  • @Danitushful It was a replay

  • im so fkn mad my zero hour wont load up.....I LOVE COMMAND AND CONQUER GENERALS

  • easy

    

  • thats what I do....

  • didn't bother to read all the other comments to see if anyone else suggested this, but for later in a game you should purchase snipers and load a combat chinook with 2 snipers and 6 rocket troops. it completely nullifies gla rpg nests and helps to thin china minigunners.

  • songs name? please :)

  • @navarone25

    96 quite bitter beings

    by: CKY

  • @jonnyknows

    thanks mate

  • How did u make bunkers on the chincook? I never find out...

  • @Jabbl1

    You can't, It's a combat Chinook. It's exclusive to the Air Force General.

  • @jonnyknows Too bad :(, Is it a mod?

  • @Jabbl1

    No, it's a part of the sub faction >_>

    you can build it at the supply depot after you build the war factory.

  • @jonnyknows lol, dont you love noobs?

  • this strategy WILL NEVER work against china. I usually get alot of gatling guns around my bases that lasers can't stop.

    It's probly best against US itself or GLA...but GLA can get quad cannons,

  • shockwave mod makes the AI friggin harder....try it

  • yaaaa but he rushed their base they dont have and troops/defence

  • I'm much more afraid of king raptors and stealth comanches. Combat nooks are easy to beat, especially if you only make one and don't bring any other nooks with it for pdl back up.

    Anyway, it's not possible to beat afg unless you're air force or stealth so it doesn't really matter what you do. However, this is probably your weakest option. Sure you can beat a noob that only manages to get one quad up, try playing someone good.

  • @wooferpoofer Yeah, probably. but afg is not impossible to beat. If it were, then everyone would be afg. However, afg is OP. It has quite the advantage, but nobody always plays perfect. AFG and toxin are both usually banned from tourneys from what I see. and inf gen shouldn't have too much difficulty beatin afg. this combat chinook can probably take out more than one quad too. it only takes about 2 volleys to do it. and it's very possible to get a 2nd one up later.

  • @jonnyknows

    Of course it's not impossible to beat afg, I was just playing off your words. However, afg has to make a substantial mistake or two to lose. Which is why not everybody is afg all the time.

    Tank has a better shot of beating afg than inf though. At least it requires micro to beat veteran gatling tanks and they're fast enough to actually harass his economy. Sure, massed tank hunters and minis is hard to beat... oh wait, he has flash bangs too.

  • trolol

  • lol one of the enemys was called nob strap haha

  • I get called a cheater because I know how to build certain ways that make me moeny much, much faster than the simple way of building(recommend).

  • lol someone tryed that on me when i was doing the quad rush and i CRUSHED him killed his chinook then cruised in to his base with on def

  • ever built 10.000 RPG troppers? i won cause my opponet´s comp crashed

  • @uniravers LOL!

  • @uniravers good luck with 10,000 quad cannons!

  • @uniravers

    I Did but My PC crashed xD

  • @uniravers maybe he had just a cheap processor, or a lower one, so you can keep up ;)

    Still , hope you had a great game and not some waste of time .

  • 96 quite bitter things. Love that song.

  • it would even work better when oyu have snipers then you can put more misiles in it

  • haha, the good old combat chinook trick (H) I loved that as well

  • LOL Zero Hour is fun and I always have the best tricks. make multi bases with the stealth general and then make alot of the bomber dudes and put them in ur tunnel network and ur truck car thing XD then drive them constantly over to the enemy and then when the car is gone the people go out and blow up what ever tried killing them = D

  • @kymara2 you must be very good xD

  • @MaartenLijpert Ya I am. XD I have beaten challange with all the 3 GLA generals on hard. ^^ now I'm working on all the china generals.

  • i tried this like about only 3 combat chinooks with 6 missile defenders and 2 pathfinders each, I WON ALL OF MY BATTLES! from easy to hard!

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  • @sorrghun Duude, its a replay, face it idiot

  • @sorrghun If you can't beat em, join em. The prevalence of maphack has taken out the game play involved with scouting right and keep your visibility in check but even with everything visible here is a lot of strategy involved.

  • @IEatCum IT's a REPLAY !!!

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  • @sorrghun

    I can take being called names and shit. But I cannot take being called a cheater. FUCK YOU I'm not a cheater, Know the game better you idiot! You should know damn well chinooks have a massive line of sight, and that gave me time to click on who I wanted it to shoot at. And I preferably like to flank right.

  • @jonnyknows Dude im Just Saying You Should Build An Airfield Too

  • what i do, GLA chem general u get a bus load of chem warriors and a bus of missile troops, keep the flow of the elite combo into ure enmy base and supply depos.

  • Jest Tu Jakiś Polak w command & conquer generals jak tak to niech napisze na gg 13704558 prosze;p

  • 4 Quad cannon & he'll be down with his helicopter

  • those battle chinooks r the best they hav lasers and wen u hav bout 15 of em full of rocket soldiers the r almost unstopable

  • Thats how I got my ass kicked in my first Online match.

  • @InTouchWithBertJ they need to make a generals 2. i hate the new gameplay of c&c red alert tiberium wars etc, it all went downhill after zero hour.

  • @Det0n8ted

    HA trust me, You don't want a generals 2. I mean if it's gonna be alittle like the first generals it'd be cool. But just look at every C&C.. It's a constant changing environment. There's no telling what C&C generals 2 may hold!

    Many C&C fans didn't like generals mainly because it strayed away from the main concept of C&C. that concept being MCV's and some sort of Tiberium.

    But Generals is a very respectable game. But yeah, Don't get your hopes up. It won't be the same.

  • @jonnyknows I know. Generals two would be ruined. They made one breakthrough with Generals and obviously not what they wanted. Stupid.

  • @jonnyknows totally agree

  • @Det0n8ted i thik the same, in generals, you are more free to play, and you can beat you enemy using somethimes 1 weak unit , while in RA3 or in TW KW, you cant.

  • @Det0n8ted no it didnt! tiberium wars is the best c&c game out there!

  • @Det0n8ted

    Your right, but there not even looking at our ideas....

  • @Rubenwbrk Good point. Just a big tip for any corporation or company. Always get your ideas off your fans, or there wont be any.

  • you haveto build a chinook after you build the warfactory. once the chinese warfactorys built *same time* it can pump out gattling tanks. plus it would have +$2400 because they wouldnt haveto build the rocket launchers and plus the extra saved for the barracks. and you should play again.. i ts a good game

  • the chinuk rush is very common and expected from afg's. It's easily defendable with china and gla for they can get quads and gattling tanks enough to kill it in less time then it does to make the chinook. usa can faster rush you with a different rush tactic

  • i got it almost as fast as possible. yes china and other may get stuff out quicker, but not by too long.

    But i am probably wrong about it, considering I don't play this game anymore. And the last few times I did, Anti Air has insane damage and huge range. but about 2 barrages of missiles will kill a gattling tank, although i may be underestimating their hp. I remember they had a large amount of hp compared to the other tanks. i don't think 1 warfactory will counter the chinook quick enough.

  • a good gla whould have a tunnel at his main base and had like 8-10 rpg's of his tunnels + 1-2 quad. it whould easly kill the chinoock but obviously this guy was a nub :\ to much tunneling to lech uniting

  • yeah but i this can pwn most jackass' who play qm. The guy was probly better than me which is the funny part of this strat. I suck at Generals especially since I don't play it anymore.

  • oke :p overal well played.

    but vs gla ud beter commanche or vee + bchinock (5-6rpg) or a vee-kr

    u play red alert 3 now ?

  • Yeah I play ra3 but lately i've been playing so awful I think I may just stop playing it altogether. Kinda weird though. I mean Ra3 i played almost everyday rite so. I gotta keep occupied with other games.

    Funny that back when I used this strat I thought I was a pretty good Generals player xD

    Little did I know :(

    200 games is nothing!

    Although I have played up to 3500 skirmish matches in generals. Which is more than my ra3 online match total. I enjoyed Generals gameplay more though.

  • i have kinda the same i'm playing zh for a long time now and i was at a realy high lvl (see some of video's) but now im just slowing down :S

    im gething slower and slower each time i play.

    i hear from alot of people ra3 isn't that great cause of the gameplay etc thats why i am sticking to zh, unitll starcraft2 will come out.

    btw i dont say ur a bad player but there alot of bether tactics :) u can dual Combat in almost same time and u can do a Combat chinock + a humvee in same time :p

  • i played against you and lost because i thought u said no rush.

  • @TheDARIEN54321

    I doubt it....

  • duuddeee, i should do that, that's cool XDD i'm a turtling kind of player though so i dont think that's gonna work on me since i most of the time do laser general XD i have NO idea how to stop aurora bombers though, any tips?

  • @lawrencealcantara620 gattling cannons fuck up every plane!!!

  • lol aroura's are good to prevent turtleing ^^

    But aroura spamming is annoying for any situation. best way to counter em is by killing the airfield, infantry standing near the airfield works great. but since you're a turtling kind of player, I'm not sure you can stop arouras. That's what aroura's are meant to stop. you can't beat an anti turtle unit by turtling.

  • i use this stategie its very good only i doo it with rangers and the quikly capture the base

  • @stickpge

    Really? cause, you know... the chances of the opponent not have anything in his base to kill it... is, nvm it just wont happen. or perhaps i'm wrong.. it just doesn't seem possible especially in a game like this.

  • and then ILL SAVE THE REPLAY post it on youtube and send it to the guys in GSID ZH forum..

    goodluck cheater

  • lol every1 who saw replay says it was streight commands. i say it was streight commands. and i should be on black list in gamespyid generals team.

    plus the other guy killed all ur stuff thets why chinuk rush is never used on this map i dunno why u did it.. unless u had mapgen (mapheck) file...

    if u want a challenge buy zh and fight me on this map.. ill be toxin gla... u be afg.. and try to chinuk rush me

    my nick is XzeNoN- and ill be online at 10 pm by GMT+2...

  • I will fuckking make a video showing my copy of fuckking ZH you prick. and then i will get my ass kicked useing this rush vs you, you retardd. I'm not good, I don't cheat you asshole. You're insulting me with these claims of cheating.

  • the gla guy actually would win id ur chinuk rush failed..

    plus i believe u use maphack... look from 1:15 when the chinuk killes the tunnel he goes in streight line to attAck the quad cannon.. as if he saw him right away after killing the tunnel...

    looks like u gave him one order to attack the quad right after killing the tunnel... thats what i think

  • yup.

    that's what i am thinking 2.

    i know how maphack works... and it were straight commands.

    but maphack = gay

    maby usefull but... it's not the same.

  • this is sad.. really.. it is. Generals is old, this comment here shows it. People map hack sooo often guy like these just instant assume a map hack. Poor Generals.. This is why I play game more up to date, Like Red Alert 3. and yes this means I wasn't map hacking. All i did was send my chinook to the right for a flanking move, came across a tunnel killed it, and then I went to his base and seen a quad cannon. simple as that, nuff said.

  • @slavahonda yup he does map hack

  • I've suprised many ppl with what i can do without cheats and much experiance. truth be, i'm not good at Zero hour.. Never put time into online practice. This tactic i came across was so long ago. but it was very useful for 1v1. I just clicked on whatever i saw. if he had built a tunnel on the left instead of right, i would've never seen it. I just got lucky. a more experianced player may do it alittle differently though. such as kill the cars, but my nubness telling me to suprise got me lucky.

  • oh and OMFG his supply stash was there too omfg and so was his wf and a bunch of workers this must be hax, all pro's know to move chinook into the direction of his command center. yeah fuckk you, I don't map hack. it looked direct cause i moved it right to his supply dock and a quad cannon just so happens to be there threatening my chinook, i click to attack it as quick as i see it. and air units have a huge vision range in this game. and in most games.

  • if you ever asked your self who invented this trick. It was me in 2003, i used to win many games like that.

  • GOD that was quick

  • love the song

  • Go for a double WF in the middle part of TD and spam stingers, I guess that's the only reasonable strat as GLA in this situation

  • i didnt get it!

  • lol that was quite easy

  • C&C Generals is a fun, well done game that unfortunately has major balance issues that ruin it. No way can a stinger site take out a loaded combat chinook.

    Other cheese:

    Rocket humvees- Longer range + faster speed = invincible as long as you micro them right.

    King raptors being invincible to missiles, destroying buildings, and reloading in one second.

    Demo general rebel ambush

    Alpha auroras

    Nuclear migs

  • lol what does micro means. Seriously seen it evrywhere but dunno what it is xD

  • micro means micromanagement.. meaning doing a bunch of tasks for a main purpose.. or in just basic C&C talk: how well you control your units. killing while keeping it alive for aslong as possible. avoiding abilities and all that other crap.

  • Yes. Since rocket humvees outrange and outrun every other early unit, as long as you're paying attention you can dance around slaughtering everything and never die. Even if you do take a hit an ambulance will repair you in a few seconds.

    It's literally impossible to counter a properly done rocket humvee rush.

  • it litterally impossible to counter a perfect humvee micro which needs your constant attention and in their turn can be overun by lets say a bunch of one cheved techinals or an advancing tunnel tactic by the gla..

  • Veteran technicals are the best tactic, but still only work if the rocket humvee player doesn't know what he's doing.

    GLA really doesn't have any way to deal with rocket vees until rocket buggies and battle buses, and those come way later.

  • i know you need to mix more as gla to defeat humvees, but then on the other hand you dont need to micro as much as the usa player..

    a couple of terrorist against his power plant should slow him down enough for you to take defensif positions and tech to buggies and after that it is game over for the usa player

  • well not totaly just make commance vs buggies + tech or some av vs buggie + rpg from tech

    btw about the power is totaly true but its fast rebuilded.... and mostly as pro us u'll make 2 vs a gla player(afther some minuts)

    btw check out my zh vids to

  • Eh, tomahawk humvees arent that invincible, if you have 50, then maybe

  • what are tomahawk humvees?

  • you get he tomahawk upgrade at the war factory to put on your humvee

  • no its a tow

  • do you have any idea how hard it would be to make 12 armies balanced and yet keeping them supplied with different uniets, i would say they dont a pretty good job

  • @fahbs I love the Demo General Rebel Ambushes :D

    I like to spam them at like say... An Airfield(if I guess right)...

    And I'm like: That takes care of that Problem...

    Nuclear Migs just blow the sh*t out of everything(if you lead them to a not well guarded building which the enemy depends on)

  • nice trick only works against usa tho gla will take out the chopers in seconds if they have stinger sites built but i tried this on my mate who is really good and i am really shit but i rushed him in seconds and was able to beat him so all good thx

  • the assault chopper

  • The Combat Chinook

  • how do u get the missel launcher to shoot the building while being in the choper

  • You have to be air force general ( have zero hour) and get tank factory then go to your supply thing and build the second chopper... forgot what its called... but not the suppply one

  • the peron your playing is shit simple as

  • nice, but doing this is dumb.. u play only 2 or 3 minutes.. where's the fun? :/

  • fun is what skirmish and friends are for. Otherwise some people just get off from competetion.

  • Yh classic rush.. But if it fails u lose the game :)

  • you mean you actually won over a human being like this!!!!!!!!

    congratulations

    any tips for "blitzkrieg" for RA3

  • awsome vid! :D

    hey, i have XP./vista, but cant play generals properly... i have a gaming PC and strangely, it worked on my craop PC... can you help me please? xD

  • Won't play properly? hmm then try setting then game to run for a different compatibility ^^.

    Otherwise look for the answer in the mysterious gooooogle :D

  • hehe, will try :D and, google suck these days :( searhed for it for around... 8 or 9 hours total ;/

  • if you have CnC The First Decade, run in admin mode...it worked for me...right click the icon, select run as admin

  • since i got my vista generals is awesome! but ra2 wont play on my comp. any suggestions?

  • Try setting it to run in 95/98 or 98/me mode.

  • does it gives an error (something like string failed or something)

    otherwise run as admin same as guy above me said

  • how do u see entire map?

  • that is pretty cool

  • I used this tac countless times back in my Generals days - 3 of these guys loaded with rocket dudes + one pathfinder could handle almost everything the enemy could throw at them and level a base in seconds.

  • ghetto chinook :D

  • That GLA player had a slow BO. He could have easily had 3 quads already ^_^

    This is one of those 50/50 tactics, if it works you won and if it fails you lost.

    I would rather go commies, you are not so easily fucked then.

  • What song is this?

  • how didja get the rocket dudes to shoot while in the chopper???

  • It's called a combat chinook ;P you can build it from the supply center after buying a warfactory. The Combat chinook is exclusive to the airforce general!

  • What is this song?

  • in the first 5 seconds I put an annotation with the name and for the one thousanth time i will say the name :

    96 quite bitter beings

    by: CKY

  • song name is QUITE BITTER THINGS

  • 'beings'... not 'things'...

  • song plzzzz?