What a crap site. Don't any of you idiots think of cleaning up your launch area? No leg straps at 2:30 was scary too. That is one site I would never fly at...ever!!
Man, what idiots! No leg straps, wtf?? Koreans tend to laugh alot at hurting themselves, so I'm sure they will have lots more to laugh at in the future. I should sell wings over there. they must go thru a bunch of 'em!
That leg strap guy is a former Gin factory pilot. Maybe when you have many thousands of flights you might forget your leg straps once also. Notice how well he handles this very dangerous situation without incident.
the first guy dosent control his wing at all does he have his brakes in his hands and he went trough a bubble when the wing dive to recover some speed he dosent stop it it goes to far and he as a collaps wich he dosent stop proprally the second guy jumped into the air and the wing wasent going fast enof to take off so he lost some hight to gain speed and he cought in a tree as of the third guy if you cant take off facing your wing DONT practice on the ground first stupid mistake !!!
I do not feel shame, i think this was a scool, but i think that the people that feel shame about this video can not fly at all. Ther are much people that only can fly with the mouth. We all once started to flying and only less where direct good pilots. So wie ich! ;-)
i agree with you... i didn't find any of these funny. A badly controlled full frontal collapse is not funny for me, is damage to the image of the sport.
OMFG.. they really don't have a fucking clue about the sport... these kinda peoples should not be in the air.... GROUND HANDLING would be a good place to start you morons...
We're talking about the BHPA here which actually limits the discussion to training regulation, that would be the extent of any legal authority were it relevant which it isn't. ANO compliance is ultimately the responsibility of the pilot not the organisation they belong to.
If you were prepared to openly discuss your training methods in a reasonable manner people might take you seriously. However, you are incapable of doing this, the conclusion being - you have nothing worth discussing
Why would the BHPA have any legal authority ? There are no legal requirements for paragliding in the UK, no requirement to be licensed and no requirement to have insurance. Legal authority is irrelevant to the fact stated previously. The AAIB took over responsibility for investigating ALL airsports fatalities not just paragliding. Why would the BHPA investigate when the AAIB is doing it anyway?
I'm sure the BHPA were well rid of you because they also knew you have nothing of value to offer
The BHPA is the only association recognised by the CAA in regard to paragliding activities in the UK. You may not like this but that's tough, as is the fact that they rightly got rid of you. You've been banned from every forum out there because you're a sad, boring, tedious, crackpot troll that's incapable of normal human interaction without destroying the other forum members will to live. Wind your ugly neck back in and give it a rest for once in your miserable little life, nobody's interested.
Warning: Murray Hay has been banned from every PG forum. He is not a qualified instructor, flys outdated equipment and only ever boats around in ridge lift. Thermals? XC?
Ah well there we go, finally resorted to insults as usual. No more needs to be said on my part, this final comment from you says enough, capitals and all.
Tipping cameras, wonky pylons, average levels. The only thing that's wonky is your logic. You were running and the wing was behind you as it will be under those condtions, i.e. you are pulling the wing using thrust from your legs to get it up to TO speed. People who don't practice what they preach just look plain foolish. Admit you're wrong for once and stop wasting everyones time with your daft "alternative" theories that have no validity whatsoever.
Can you please explain why you are running with the wing clearly behind you during the launch in your U-tube video ref. 5ZbsnypcG7s. This isn't even a nil wind launch !
You need to learn some basic English: most people would consider taking long strides at speed as running. Otherwise your description sounds like any competent PG pilot doing a forward launch. The people in the video crashed because they had poor technique and poor skills. You could probably help them with that since I believe you are a very good pilot and instructor. I just don't believe you are the only one, nor do I subscribe to your alternative worldview.
Lazy and efficient reverse launch with no running. I guess you get the wing up and by some miracle the next thing you know is you suddenly find youself flying without having taken a single step. Plain simple fact of the matter is in nil wind you have to run or you ain't going nowhere. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. No wonder so many of your students have so many accidents. Love to continue this but it's costing too much having my sides stitched up. Fly safe dude.
My oh my, resultant, vector, CoP, all very technical sounding but utterly irrelevent to the fact that the individuals in the vid crashed because they didn't control the wing before starting to run and probably because they were taking off into the mother of all uncut brush hazard. Stick to what's relevant and stop trying to impress people who know better with irrelevant jargon.
The dude at 4:48 had his wing plenty in front of him, why didn't he just fly away? The dude that had the frontal also had the wing ABOVE and in front of him, and yet a tree arose and smote him. Go figure.
More Hay gibberish. They were taking off, i.e. not in steady gliding flight !. The key to avoiding the problems is simply to learn how to ground handle properly and take off properly. No more crap please.
well they might have but there a few mountains that are close to there club and have a road to the top and i got to fly and travel a lot and the 2 years i was there i never saw one hill have no trees on it at all.
Vast majority of these were the result of extremely poor technique. Instead of laughing, maybe someone should show these clowns how to launch. Very funny...'til someone dies.
He was flying a DHV 2-3 wing one step below a competition wing. He let go of the controls to sit in his seat better and took a big frontal collapse. I think he was a little over confident because he was so familiar with this site. Just because you have flown someplace 100's of time before and nothing bad ever happened doesn't mean that it can't. We must remain vigiliant and prepared as paraglider pilots. He should have put both brakes in one hand while he adjusted his seat to stay in control.
Cool thanks man. I really hope to try para-gliding someday. I like knowing that it is safe if you keep it safe.
I scuba dive, and that sport can definitely kill you if you aren't following the guidelines. If you are safe about it, you can enjoy years of trouble free diving!
There are at least 7 different launch sites in this video. Bigbird has almost 60 members and between 15 and 20 fly every weekend. Not many incidents in 2007 if you consider just how many flights they had.
that place is cursed..... maybe
eltankes 8 months ago
hallucinant....le niveau des types est tellement faible....qu on se demande ce qu il font sur des décos aussi difficiles!!!!!
baptisteds 1 year ago
Welcome to Paraglidingclub The Last Kamikaze!
Our motto: No instruction...it's much more fun! :-)
Blue Skies
TheNovaAxon 1 year ago
Kinda dumb people.
zuluslayer 1 year ago
What a crap site. Don't any of you idiots think of cleaning up your launch area? No leg straps at 2:30 was scary too. That is one site I would never fly at...ever!!
00Muttley 1 year ago
what happened with the pilot 0:53, did he hurt himself?
hawkairxc 1 year ago
@hawkairxc see reply to vivicorsi below. He walked away without any real injuries, except maybe to his pride.
PaulinTaegu 1 year ago
why are you still flying at a site that is so dangerous and has had so many accidents
keaton7kropp 2 years ago
im glad i learned where i did, that place hasnt had an accident or incident of any kind in years
wolverineks 2 years ago
Olimpic team 2012.. ha ha.
coombekea 2 years ago
not only that probably not a best spot either with all the brush underneath
sourmanofcoal 2 years ago
Good compilation of blopers. Lol. Thanks
geniennis 2 years ago
FLY GIN (L) LOL......
in my point of view.. that is a very hard take-off site... there are branches and bushes everywhere
muertovivovillano 2 years ago 2
Man, what idiots! No leg straps, wtf?? Koreans tend to laugh alot at hurting themselves, so I'm sure they will have lots more to laugh at in the future. I should sell wings over there. they must go thru a bunch of 'em!
dougwjackson 3 years ago
That leg strap guy is a former Gin factory pilot. Maybe when you have many thousands of flights you might forget your leg straps once also. Notice how well he handles this very dangerous situation without incident.
PaulinTaegu 3 years ago
oh yes, he's an example to all of us !
filelectric 2 years ago
the first guy dosent control his wing at all does he have his brakes in his hands and he went trough a bubble when the wing dive to recover some speed he dosent stop it it goes to far and he as a collaps wich he dosent stop proprally the second guy jumped into the air and the wing wasent going fast enof to take off so he lost some hight to gain speed and he cought in a tree as of the third guy if you cant take off facing your wing DONT practice on the ground first stupid mistake !!!
xnubuy 3 years ago
I do not feel shame, i think this was a scool, but i think that the people that feel shame about this video can not fly at all. Ther are much people that only can fly with the mouth. We all once started to flying and only less where direct good pilots. So wie ich! ;-)
WeFlyTogether 3 years ago 2
What a shame and bad example for the sport.
Also shame on the people who are standing around. How can they even get a permision to fly?
Like I saw so many times. High Performance wings and no brain.
Great Video and good example how to NOT do.
Thanks
ParaFlightFlorida 3 years ago
i agree with you... i didn't find any of these funny. A badly controlled full frontal collapse is not funny for me, is damage to the image of the sport.
NelsonWissar 2 years ago
OMG the education over there must be crap, those are all silly mistakes...
TheGreatV123 3 years ago
OMFG.. they really don't have a fucking clue about the sport... these kinda peoples should not be in the air.... GROUND HANDLING would be a good place to start you morons...
sebsebs77 3 years ago
Bunch of guys with high performance wings without ground handling and launching shills.
browntrousersmoment 3 years ago
Wow these guys must be experts at getting wings out of trees ;-)
bgalli2005 3 years ago 2
We're talking about the BHPA here which actually limits the discussion to training regulation, that would be the extent of any legal authority were it relevant which it isn't. ANO compliance is ultimately the responsibility of the pilot not the organisation they belong to.
If you were prepared to openly discuss your training methods in a reasonable manner people might take you seriously. However, you are incapable of doing this, the conclusion being - you have nothing worth discussing
Parablooper 3 years ago
Why would the BHPA have any legal authority ? There are no legal requirements for paragliding in the UK, no requirement to be licensed and no requirement to have insurance. Legal authority is irrelevant to the fact stated previously. The AAIB took over responsibility for investigating ALL airsports fatalities not just paragliding. Why would the BHPA investigate when the AAIB is doing it anyway?
I'm sure the BHPA were well rid of you because they also knew you have nothing of value to offer
Parablooper 3 years ago
The BHPA is the only association recognised by the CAA in regard to paragliding activities in the UK. You may not like this but that's tough, as is the fact that they rightly got rid of you. You've been banned from every forum out there because you're a sad, boring, tedious, crackpot troll that's incapable of normal human interaction without destroying the other forum members will to live. Wind your ugly neck back in and give it a rest for once in your miserable little life, nobody's interested.
Parablooper 3 years ago
Warning: Murray Hay has been banned from every PG forum. He is not a qualified instructor, flys outdated equipment and only ever boats around in ridge lift. Thermals? XC?
MH.... give us a break!
RAsmall 3 years ago
Ah well there we go, finally resorted to insults as usual. No more needs to be said on my part, this final comment from you says enough, capitals and all.
flyingminer2 3 years ago
Tipping cameras, wonky pylons, average levels. The only thing that's wonky is your logic. You were running and the wing was behind you as it will be under those condtions, i.e. you are pulling the wing using thrust from your legs to get it up to TO speed. People who don't practice what they preach just look plain foolish. Admit you're wrong for once and stop wasting everyones time with your daft "alternative" theories that have no validity whatsoever.
flyingminer2 3 years ago
Can you please explain why you are running with the wing clearly behind you during the launch in your U-tube video ref. 5ZbsnypcG7s. This isn't even a nil wind launch !
flyingminer2 3 years ago
You need to learn some basic English: most people would consider taking long strides at speed as running. Otherwise your description sounds like any competent PG pilot doing a forward launch. The people in the video crashed because they had poor technique and poor skills. You could probably help them with that since I believe you are a very good pilot and instructor. I just don't believe you are the only one, nor do I subscribe to your alternative worldview.
timburke127 3 years ago
I would love to see how a paraglider takes off in no wind without running. Please point us to a video.
Regarding your accident rates, I take it when one of your students is injured, it is the BHPA's fault and therefore does not count, is that correct?
timburke127 3 years ago
Lazy and efficient reverse launch with no running. I guess you get the wing up and by some miracle the next thing you know is you suddenly find youself flying without having taken a single step. Plain simple fact of the matter is in nil wind you have to run or you ain't going nowhere. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. No wonder so many of your students have so many accidents. Love to continue this but it's costing too much having my sides stitched up. Fly safe dude.
flyingminer2 3 years ago
Please explain how it is possible to launch a paraglider in low/nil wind conditions without this dreaded running business. I'm intrigued.
flyingminer2 3 years ago
My oh my, resultant, vector, CoP, all very technical sounding but utterly irrelevent to the fact that the individuals in the vid crashed because they didn't control the wing before starting to run and probably because they were taking off into the mother of all uncut brush hazard. Stick to what's relevant and stop trying to impress people who know better with irrelevant jargon.
flyingminer2 3 years ago
The dude at 4:48 had his wing plenty in front of him, why didn't he just fly away? The dude that had the frontal also had the wing ABOVE and in front of him, and yet a tree arose and smote him. Go figure.
timburke127 3 years ago
More Hay gibberish. They were taking off, i.e. not in steady gliding flight !. The key to avoiding the problems is simply to learn how to ground handle properly and take off properly. No more crap please.
flyingminer2 3 years ago
The scariest one is the one not clipping in properly. Lucky he fell out of the harness on launch.
CornishColin 3 years ago 4
That one reminds me not to become complacent. That pilot is ranked #22 in the Korean XC league and is a former Gin team test pilot.
PaulinTaegu 3 years ago
Me thinks you need to brush out your launch slope. . .
n421tt 3 years ago
did any 1 take off sucsesfully?
megapwn333 3 years ago
maaan!! couldnt they find a better place to launch???
EvgenyLeon 3 years ago
well they might have but there a few mountains that are close to there club and have a road to the top and i got to fly and travel a lot and the 2 years i was there i never saw one hill have no trees on it at all.
PaulinTaegu 3 years ago
terrifyingly bad!
AMAZINGPROSTATE 3 years ago
tip of the day: find a hill where trees and brush are not in the path of your launch.
Engine272 3 years ago
"The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
so try to miss it, next time...
turmix84 4 years ago
very nice! lots of Gin ...
David2Rossi 4 years ago 2
Vast majority of these were the result of extremely poor technique. Instead of laughing, maybe someone should show these clowns how to launch. Very funny...'til someone dies.
aerodynamicle 4 years ago 3
what happened to the first guy on the video?
vivicorsi 4 years ago
You can kind of hear him crash into the trees. That is what most likely saved him from serious injury or death. Trashed his wing though.
PaulinTaegu 4 years ago
Was his fall the result of poor technique? Those random falls I see really scare me.
blarggstar 4 years ago
He was flying a DHV 2-3 wing one step below a competition wing. He let go of the controls to sit in his seat better and took a big frontal collapse. I think he was a little over confident because he was so familiar with this site. Just because you have flown someplace 100's of time before and nothing bad ever happened doesn't mean that it can't. We must remain vigiliant and prepared as paraglider pilots. He should have put both brakes in one hand while he adjusted his seat to stay in control.
PaulinTaegu 4 years ago
Cool thanks man. I really hope to try para-gliding someday. I like knowing that it is safe if you keep it safe.
I scuba dive, and that sport can definitely kill you if you aren't following the guidelines. If you are safe about it, you can enjoy years of trouble free diving!
blarggstar 4 years ago
if all of these were in 2007, ten you need to find a new spot to launch. :-)
mropencc 4 years ago
There are at least 7 different launch sites in this video. Bigbird has almost 60 members and between 15 and 20 fly every weekend. Not many incidents in 2007 if you consider just how many flights they had.
PaulinTaegu 4 years ago
Great video!!
flyhghgy 4 years ago 2