Ancient Astronomy

[Flusercom]

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[Spasatcom]

Good Video.. Very Infomative. Thanks for shared

[zytigon]

Matt 2vs2&9 has Magi see a star& for reasons best know to the priest who dreamed up the story, thought that it meant a baby Jewish king had been born. So they tried the obvious place for a baby king= the capital of Jerusalem. Herod told the Magi to go 6 miles down the road to Bethlehem. They didn't need a star to guide them but the author placed one to ensure they didn't miss the road. I think the star was probably called Tinker Bell. Astronomers would have noted constellation & brightness

[mosthighservant]

You can find gods word in even a heathens mouth..but his actions will be far from it

[CharlesJowers3]

@mosthighservant Come on man, thats why alot of people hate religion. That radicalism just accept every has a different perspective on it and no one knows which way is right, you have your faith he doesn't. Don't force your view on anybody I'm sure you know people die for going that route, ever heard of the crusades? You can't force your culture on someone else and just claim that its right.

[mosthighservant]

@CharlesJowers3 charles mind yours i didnt force my views on anyone read my comment again before you ASSume.... my comment was opinion..

[CorkSkeptics]

Some say that Newgrange (5,000 yrs old) in Ireland is actually an Astronomical calender, but the mainstream archaeologist dismiss this saying it's just a tomb, that they didn't have the IQ.

[jojeep1]

I like it i don't care how you feel. Carl was a man with a message. I like to think his main ideas were about a peaceful balance of science and philosophy. If we could all come together peacefully and exchange ideas we could get so much more done. To point out the differences between segan and ein and all the greats seems to me to be a waist of time. Tell me what you got out of it and how it made you feel but let's not put anyone down. They've all added a little more to the understanding of sci

[Cerbethys]

Tbh I just look at him as a presenter and nothing more, he has interesting stuff to say but the topic he talks about are interesting in themselves.

[DisgustForHumanity]

I love watching Cosmos. I always feel more enlightened and at peace when I'm listening to Sagan speak. He always has something beautiful and intelligent to say. Rest in peace, you were a great man.

[tnguyen318]

Right now, we need to re-write lots of things in the study of Astronomy. There's alot of error.

[jklusen]

Music at 1;00 is 'The Sea Named Solaris' Bach/Tomita

[bethanysage]

3 dislikes!!! How? :(

[xXTurelNosgothXx]

Always interesting such videos.

[cesfigas]

People like Sagan should never die.

[TheImmigrantsong]

What is the song at 1:00

[ParaglidingManiac]

I sure wish something similar would be on today's TV :(

[cappadinoceo]

Ptolemy was an asshole!

Carl Sagan is my idol god!

praise be to carl sagan!

[question279]

Christian still believe that the Universe exist 10,000 years ago. And the earth exist 6000 years ago. Also, they believe that God will resurrect the dead.

They are so stupid.

[Forlo12345]

Not all Christians believe that. Rational Christians have the common sense to accept the theories of evolution, abiogenesis, and the big bang. These Christians DO believe the fact of evolution and the fact that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old and that the Universe is older by nearly ten times that much. So it's a question of fundamentalism. Christian fundamentalists do not believe in facts if they go against their fragile beliefs. Moderate Christians will accept facts no matter what.

[shandorejunk]

@Forlo12345 YEs, but the poor old moderate christain will have to continue to believe in a "shrinking" God as science discovers more and more.

[Forlo12345]

Exactly! Religious people choose to believe in a God because we can logically explain everything in the universe except for what happened before it was created. So, like every religion, people will invent some creative explanation for what we can't explain and call it: "God." For all that we can discover, there is still a limit to how much knowledge that we can attain. So, moderate Christians will have to believe in a "shrinking" God, but I don't think that belief will ever disappear.

[shandorejunk]

Well said. Isn't this basically the definition of faith. Its not as blind as a fundamentalists dry hope in a "god of the bible". At what stage does a moderate christian basically turn into a panatheist though?

[Forlo12345]

Well, I don't know. For every person it's different. In fact, I used to be a Christian, then I became a deist, and now agnostic. It took me about ten years to accomplish that. One of my friends took a few months to do that. And I know someone else who, after 20 years, is still questioning his faith but refuses to deconvert. I don't know, for every person, it requires a separate form of logic to convince them they don't need to factor a supernatural being into the equation.

[shandorejunk]

I do agree with you though, there will always be questions that science simly cannot answer, and there will always be a shrinking God but never shrunk out of existance. But what should we do about the fundies who hold science back? Do you realise that the same "freedom of religion" that protects moderate christians also protects the fundies with their backwards ideas? How big should the umbrella be?

[Forlo12345]

Fundies are using government protected status to push their views on everyone. Anyone can create a religion and for tax exempt status (the scientologists pulled it off!). And so the fundies will try to use their status to push religion into schools. The 1st amendment protects people's choices of religion, but isn't meant to support it. This may seem radical, but I think we should remove ALL government programs meant to give tax breaks to religious groups (unless it's community service).

[shandorejunk]

@Forlo12345 I don't think its radical at all. Freedom of religion shouldn't equal freedom to preach bullshit. people have a right to protect aspects of their cultural heritage, but their should be no rights protecting morons who want creationism taught in a science classroom. New religions should be rejected and disbanded, like scientology (and maybe mormons haha).

[Forlo12345]

No disagreement there! Every person has a right to defend their beliefs, but not at the expense of other beliefs. =)

[shandorejunk]

It is a very fine line. I know here in Australia recently religious schools wanted the abililty to breach the equal opportunity act and not be allowed to employ people against their "religous stance" no where no talking of schools hiring Gay Atheist evolutionists, just mothers who were christain themselves but had a child with a partner and wasn't married being fired. So exactly when does "freedom of religion" trump "equal opportunity" and other rights, and why should this be allowed?

[Forlo12345]

I wouldn't want to apply for those types of jobs if that's their mentality and I certainly don't want my kids going there. Any organization should be able to hire people on any quality, but once they are hired, they shouldn't be fired for anything other than poor performance. So, in my opinion, they can choose to hire who they please, BUT they must obey the contract regardless of beliefs/race/orientation. Firing someone just because they had a child out of wedlock is inappropriate.

[shandorejunk]

The problem is that religious types think it is Ok to fire someone out of wedlock, or an atheist, or gay/lesbian in schools. They say its their right to have teachers that fit into their schools religious ethos, but where is the line drawn? If this is what they want they should have their goverment funding cut. Freedom of religion should never be allowed to trump equal opportunity. They'd never sack a teacher because they were black, mother out of wedlock is no worse.

[BusinessIDBAI]

@shandorejunk

You should look at the first amendment to the Constitution, it not only covers speech, but also the government NOT condoning any religion. Seriously, look it up.

Freedom of PERSONAL religion, not freedom of PUBLIC religion. The government is legally ESTABLISHED as a secular organization. If they believe otherwise, they don't know the constitution. Period.

[shandorejunk]

@BusinessIDBAI I'm Australian, so I don't really understand why I need to read the USA constitution and the case I was talking about was an Australian one , sigh, some of you yanks think that your country is the centre of the universe. I'm discussing where the line is drawn, I'm pretty sure religious schools in USA can employ who they like, but the system is quite different. Enlighten me.

[BusinessIDBAI]

@shandorejunk

Or you could look at the bare statistics on youtube users and see the overwhelming majority of users are from the US.

It's only natural to assume.

A private religious school receiving NO funding from the local, state, or federal government can hire/fire whomever they like as is the right of a private company.

But even that is within bounds of discrimination. But everyone knows they will find work arounds.

[shandorejunk]

Try not to make assumptions, it is a global village. But anyway, teaching is prickly, because you can talk abouit it like "private businesses" but we're also talking about children being taught absolute rubbish. Homeschooloing is even worse. Where is the line drawn, its parents rights to teach their children how they see fit, but should it be a right to teach them superstitious nonsence? Should a school regardless of funding o turn away someone because they are a non-beleiever? Its complex

[BusinessIDBAI]

@shandorejunk

I agree, wrong of me to assume, but do you see my rational for it?

Here's one thing I hate, the bad name homeschooling has gotten because of these religious nuts.

I was homeschooled from the end of the 7th grade on, I graduated at age 16, using secular curriculum, receiving several scholarships, including the option for three different full rides to three different universities here in the realm of computer sciences.

Secular homeschoolers often call themselves "unschoolers" now

[shandorejunk]

Yes you make a valid point. personally I don't believe homeschooling is necessarily the best option, but I won't deny that there would be good examples of homeschooling. Its the home schooling by parents that know very little and are devoutly religious that concerns me.  I had a friend who was homeschooled while his family travelled the world, lucky bastard

[BusinessIDBAI]

Well, as an Australian, I'm sure you've at least heard of the quality of the public educational system of American schools in K-12.

However, there are a good number of rather advanced and progressive secular homeschooling curriculum offered.

When I got started back in 1998, we were doing video classes over the internet and doing in depth studies into evolution, molecular biology, college level algebra (in the 8th grade) and actually holding real federal government courses.

Its great in the US

[shandorejunk]

The Quality as in lack of quality?

Its not too disimilar to many Australian public schools, but the system is quite different. Education seems to be so much more expensive in the US

Sounds like you had an organised and structured homeschooling did it involve learning via correspondence? I'm intrigued.

[classifiedidiot]

@shandorejunk AROUND THE WORLD!?Lucky bastard indeed hmmmm....goes to his parents.

[AspiringPotato]

@ SagansCosmos. Maybe you should just delete the comments section, because I don't think it's really that necessary for these kind of educational videos, and it really only just gives the uneducated morons like saynotodarwin a canvas to write slander upon. It's not like they won't find another corner of the internet that will play host to their brainless voices.

[shandorejunk]

I don't know, it is possible to have informed and interesting debates about the words of Carl Sagan. ISagan was all about Science communication, we'll never get rid of fundies, but there might be some touched by sagans words and want to talk to others who agree.

[AspiringPotato]

To be lost in the vast magnificent void is not a harsh fate or criticism. But to be lost and consumed in the great miasma of human stupidity... that is not something to envy or be proud of.

[buzzkilla12]

your stupid and brainwashed. how is Carl Sagan a nutter? he only dealt with things of science. science is how the universe works. the bible is fairytale written in the stone age by people that rode on donkeys to get around. Who do you think knows more about the universe? A studied scientist with a telescope today? Or a smelly stone age man thats got leprosy and prays that it goes away? its fairly simple to understand why jesus is a lie. people scared to die needed something to believe in.

[fokofpoes]

what do you really know ?

[buzzkilla12]

i know what i can see hear smell and taste. i know its stupid to believe any information without evidence. i know how to roll a j,and make my girlfriend scream and wake the neighbors

[ManofManyPasswords]

lol I love this guy, but goddamn turtle necks lol

[junkyardpolester]

The operative words..Ptolemy's ancient thoughts of an earth-centered universe prevented any further advancment of astronomy for 1500, yes , 1500 years! This is really a crime!

[junkyardpolester]

Geez panikotka! You were there when Jesu spoke to his thugs! You said..."Don't recall Jesus using that sort of language or encouraging his followers to do so." Try for reality...not more Xtian cupidicy!

[equallyeasilyfuqyou]

lol

[panikotka]

How is Carl Sagan a nutter, saynotodarwin? Since when has high intelligence and a good education made a person a nutter?

For a so-called-religious believer you're surprisingly foul-mouthed. Don't recall Jesus using that sort of language or encouraging his followers to do so.

[Inuyshathebom]

Well theres no changing your mind so I guess I will not bother you again. I hope you have a nice day and will some day open your mind to differents ideas or facts.

[tentheagle]

So should we all believe that the world was created in 6 days 6,000 years ago ?

Please just stick to your "Own" type

[Inuyshathebom]

wow your a vary hateful person just because of free thinking you hate oh what a simple way I wish you happyness and free thinking

[sajcrew]

gr8 vid, keep up good work

[CrunkRockSteadyEvan]

these places were the earliest and most basic computers

its amazing to see human genius in the face of so much terrible european history of the dark ages

[HomoCyborgZombie]

That loop part was fucking awesome 0-o

[madjik9]

The world is a lesser place without Carl in it...

[mauriciohavok]

@madjik9 no, it is a better place thanks to him

[grantburrell]

All those who seek knowledge, seek Carl Sagan.

The man, the legend.

[DaveC86]

really awesome.

[oexnorth]

awesome

[Hannsfeld]

'Cosmos' should be required curriculum for introductory high school science. If not for this program airing during my high school years, I may not have become the engineer and 'scientist' I am today.

[deauvillimus]

Carl Sagan to me was probably one of the most beautiful human beings on the Pale blue Dot.

[ggab7768]

Hear hear!!

A fantasic human being.

My eyes still tear up when I think about the loss.

[rationalmuscle]

Thank you for this. Carl's way of presenting information is still unrivaled.

[foospecial]

Cosmos was the first VHS set I ever owned waaaay back. I think it helped my critical thinking skills a lot early on in life.

[WarriorWithNoPurpose]

If they mean "popularist" as in, the guy was an excellent presenter and was entertaining as well as knowledgeable, then I would agree.

And Sagan's voice was amazing! It's too bad I didn't really see much of his series until after he was gone. He appreciated the Universe as it was, without there needing to be a "God" for it all to have begun (most likely it's always been around), in its many unlockable discoveries, and did not fear those unknowns, being to me what truly is courageous!

[ILYIAB]

Carl - Your legacy lives on. And so does science.

[MasterMorgrath]

Not sounding gay or anything.  His voice is amazing.

[TheSandreGuy]

I´m so tired of people claiming that Carl Sagan was a popularist. His contribution of knowledge to the average man is far greater in my opinion, than any other scientist.

[RexFordVII]

I completely agree, his books are written in such a way that any idiot can pick them up and learn something beautiful. He's inspired countless people to pursue careers in science, myself included.

I would give anything to be able to contribute HALF of what he has to the advancement of our species.

[truvelocity]

The people who don't give him the correct credentials are the same people who want to undermine progress for their selfish agendas.

[Swidhelm]

He was a popularist, and we need more like him today. He was a scientist and felt that too many other scientists wanted to retain the gap of intellect between scientists and laymen. Carl Sagan didn't share that. Which is why he was such an amazing man. He brought science to the general public in an understandable and entertaining way.

[nystagmus]

definitely, im an average man with average intelligence who appreciates what sagan has done

[blasteryui]

@TheSandreGuy I'm sorry but Isaac newton and Albert Enstien provided more then Carl Sagin did,

[DisgustForHumanity]

@blasteryui True, but you're missing what Sagan attempted to achieve. Newton and Einstein may have been two of the greatest minds in science, but Sagan attempted to spread his knowledge to people in a unique sort of way, in a way that everyone can understand it. He simplified the complexity of astronomy and was able to teach it to the masses very effectively. His influence was greater than Einstein and Newton's, the only thing he lacked was significant scientific contribution.

[illumined1]

@TheSandreGuy Even Sagan would disagree with you - for Sagan may have imparted knowledge to the average man, but what prometheus gave you air conditioning, internal combustion engines and modern medicine? The average man was only able to accept Carl Sagan's great message when Science had paved the way for the average human-being to become self-educated! Thank you Eratosthenes, Hipparchus, Aristarchus, Euclid, Pythagoras, Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Newton, Einstein!

[PelicanGodOfJupiter]

@TheSandreGuy Isn't that what a populist does? Raises the understanding of the lay-person?

[glassbrain]

yay Carl Sagan.