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  • can you do the same drilling w/ a 18v rotary hamer drill??

  • wtf?

    guys, go to Czech Republic or Germany and check out a proper way of building routes on sandstone :)

  • @dogdogee

    Do you mean using half sleeve dyna bolts as shown, or glue-ins as they were told to use ?

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  • @sydneydoc

    you have to use "sand stone bolts" with big diameter, like 1 inch !! and glue them

  • @dogdogee

    Glue-ins are standard practice in Australian sandstone, although 1 inch dia is a tad excessive.

    It sounds as though you are unaware of the history of this video. Travelling Czech climbers, against local advice, bolted a 10 pitch route with half sleeve (friction fit) expansion bolts, in the manner of this video. This bad bolting sadly resulted in the subsequent death of an Australian lad. The Czech bolts have now been removed.

  • @sydneydoc

    I have never heard about this story and I am sorry to hear about it!!

    but i cannot take responsibility for "czech" climbers as you would probably not take for all "australians"

    ...to use bolts in soft sandstone is stupid, always use proper ways to built the pitches

  • @dogdogee

    No one is asking you to take responsibility for anyone.

  • Serious food for thought there, I wouldn't hang my laundry off that!

  • I heard when they pulled the bolts from bunny bucket, that leaning back with a draw clipped to

    their harness was enough to pull some straight

    out of the wall. Thanks for posting this. Say's a lot

    about modern epoxy.

  • isnt epoxy used more with softer rock?

  • yeah it is

  • Man that hurts to watch.

  • Was the smaller hole properly cleaned with a brush and blowing air, prior to inserting the bolt ?

    It would be interesting to hear the manufacturer's claimed reason for the failure with the smaller dia. hole.

  • Yes, both holes were cleaned with a brush and blower tube.

  • Interesting. You'd think that after bashing the bolt into the smaller hole, whether the rock was soft or otherwise wouldn't make any difference to how well it gripped ... provided the bolt was well designed ...

  • Good job Neil - thanks for taking the time to test this.

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