Thoughts on Steroids, Lance Armstrong, Mayweather, Pacquiao, De La Hoya

[flefft]

Robinson would have EMASCULATED Mayweather. Don't even bring it up.

[kelcat34]

This is a very good video! Eduacating ppl on PEDS!! A lot of ppl dont not anything about them! They think all steroids make you big and buff! No... they don't.

[nicholsjet]

A very good point. Doping is a sign of this time

I agree with mayweather concerning dope testing. Whether he raised this issue to get into Pacquiao's mind or not. It 's still a valid issue.

On the other hand, Pacquiao has never really proven using dope. My opinion is Pacquiao, like Mayweather doesn't want to be dictated.

These are all negotiation BS. What if Pacquiao agrees to random testing, I bet there will another problems: money, venue, and Arum...

I think the fight won't happen!

[MrBertyan]

Some people they can’t accept the reality, that there’s Asian can fight anybody. Pacquiao is a good boxer and he is a good Fighter (natural) also He believes in God. He worked hard so that he rich his ambition to be good fighter and he is lucky.

look at your cam, who's taking? You know my friend what Pacquiao did? He is the same to your Great-great-great ancestor they are fighting for freedom and equality, and they WIN. Acceptance of Reality is the Best way of Human being. Peace!!!!!!

[riekotz]

this just prove that some people are really "CRAB MENTALITY" if you can't hit them at front hit them at the side"

[aparach]

floyd's campaigning about taking test is not about steroids. its just a front page to let people trick. floyd wants manny to take out his blood so that pac will go down on super featherweight during the fight night. while floyd has no problem weighing on the welterweight... accusing manny is like selling an ice cream with a pizza flavour that no ones gonna buy it unless its a floyd fans...

[drubnedarb]

pac took blood test for the clottey fight and he passed. he also passed blood test for morales fight. so let's cut these expert analysis crap..

[Nativedizzle]

Great vid man I agree with you entirely! I don't know how many times I have had this same conversation and used many of the same arguments, you are a true objective observer and a true knowledgeable fan of boxing and sports overall! Thanks man!!

[GoTitonSmash]

VERY GOOD VIDEO, WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO REMEMBER, MAYWEATHER IS 40-0 AND DONE THE BLOODTEST AND PROVED TO THE WORLD HE IS A CLEAN ATHLETE

PAQUAIO IS DEFINETLY ON THE PEDS IT SO OBVIOUS!!! REALLY GOOD VID

[aznracerboi2k5]

mayweather needs to grow some balls.....he's too scared of pacquiao......shame shame

[flefft]

@GoTitonSmash - Apart from the Xylocaine that is banned in every state apart from Nevada where he only elects to fight.

[anonymousprofess]

I hope you read my comment dwyer70905. I see a lot of bird brain remarks from folks I believe now your absolutely right. This is the best video I have ever seen in regards to this issue. Not to mention I watch your videos and believe this was the most powerful video I have ever seen you do. You honestly blew me away with with this video! I have been trying and will continue to spread the news to check this video out. Keep up the good work.

[madnegro69]

Dwyer is the only one on steroids. Look at his big ass head

[meyoutoobthem]

shane mosley is the nicest most humble steroid user. I dont understand why people wouldnt put it past him to throw a fight, especially when signing to arum. lol.

[truthseek99]

did they have xylocaine back in the day?

[BluesRockRo]

manny "big fuckin' head" pacquiao is on steroids in my opinion, that dude is juicing.

[spankybighead]

@manbearpigisalive Well Shane really won the first fight. Just basically out hustled him. The second fight I give to Oscar.

[claviculatyson]

hey

[TheTrojanabuser]

Well said. 100% truth to every word you spoke in this video an that little sign next to the fighters name noting that they took blood test is a awesome idea.That would help build a stronger fan base bc the fans would know that the athlete is a true warrior and he would gain so much respect.Its kinda like a badge of honor for the sport of boxing.

[TheTrojanabuser]

I love how you dont say names but faces of the fighters just keep popping up into the blank lol. Steroids is at a all time high in all sports right now.Good guys and bad guys in the sports are all users. Blood testing is needed in the sport point blank.

[jarvobrrrrap]

@manbearpigisalive he lost the first fight to shane, even th i dont like oscar, he talks to much shit. but i say he won the secound fight with shane but I say he lost the fight to Pernell Whitaker and Felix Sturm.

[chucknchar]

Oscar beat Sugar Shane in first fight and was beating Feliz easy before he coasted in last 2 rounds

[i0olilovesalexa]

But if you compare the body of a muhammed ali with a klitchsko, of a sugar ray leonard with sugar shane mosley, we see obvious diferences. Some "drugs" are clean to use, in that time those didn't exist, even simple suplements etc... These comparitions are always open to debate but can make no possible debate also.

[delmarfo]

Very good video once again. What is wrong with having blood test to show you are clean. If the shoe was on the other foot the whole media would be supporting Manny saying how much of an example he is for requesting random blood and urine testing. The media hate Floyd, its as simple as that.

[KingBlackCeaser]

good well thought out video dwyer. peace man. good work man

[KingBlackCeaser]

klitchskos admittted it, james toney(freddy roach) failed test,, manny wont agree to random, shane admitter he took it, ect....roach has 4 fightes that has failed steroid test and 2 more have been linked.

[itouch4facebook]

Agreed

[philhaj2]

Dwyer stoops to a new low with his not so subtle accusations. Unsuscribed. So many holes in this bullshit video.

[sp0rtswr1ter150]

@philhaj2 lol...Next time just think it instead of writing a comment! That way no one will know you're one of the Pac fans that actually doubt his integrity!!

You should just relax, what Dwyer is saying is true but it'll never be implemented in time to affect Pac's career! Besides there's a good chance that Pac's clean even though you believe he isn't lol!!

[spankybighead]

@philhaj2 Nah no holes. It's true. If your clean you have nothing to prove and even more integrity will come your way because of it. Now lets not be fooled. He's obviously pointing at Manny. As an athelete I understand Floyd's point. To see a guy come from 106 pounds as professional, carry speed + power up to welter weight and be dominant is very rare. In any sport at any level I've seen guys make gains you know 99% of the time ain't natural. To put it to rest is in Manny's hands.

[Tindel10]

Say the names...

[realtalk897]

just take pacquiaos hair. hair test would be better

[thisisgame]

What your saying is you want year round olympic style drug testing. And if EPO or whatever can be flushed from the system in 15 days than you want it at least twice a month. Thats AT LEAST 24 blood tests per year.

Whos gonna pay for all that? Urine testing is cheaper and can now detect epo in the system.

w w w.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/epo.h­tml

Leave the drug testing to the experts in the commission because your are way behind the curve when it comes to the realities of PED testing.

[remi6381]

@thisisgame Wrong, urine testing alone cant trace EPO use. Thats why olympic style testing involves both blood and urine tests. Dont just blindly believe everything you read on a web article. And come on man, nobody's saying twice a month, we're talking random tests when not fighting. And when leading up to a fight these tests would be more frequent.

[owengg17]

@thisisgame Please read my post below about the real value of blood testing vs urin testing when it comes to detecting PEDS. Its not about finding EPO in someone's blood or urine because both methods aren't very good at doing it. What the blood tests are good for is detecting whether or not the level of red blood cells in the body is normal or not. If they are not normal the only two ways they could possibly be elevated is blood doping or high altitude training. ITs not about finding EPO.

[Haplotype0]

Innocent until proven guilty. There is testing in place. Could it be better? Obviously. But when you take into consideration what you're saying about comparing one's self to Ray Robinson. Well, no steroids didn't exist back then. They also had to weigh in on the day of the fight. But when you put someone through olympic style testing, that could affect the performance too. Ray Robinson didn't have to endure invasive testing either. So no matter what, you can't REALLY compare.

[sp0rtswr1ter150]

@Haplotype0 The other side of your argument would be that, neither Ray Robinson or his opponents were subjected to random blood testing. So if everyone today was tested, everyone would be affected (not that any athletes have every complained about it affecting their performance outside the inconvenience of letting the authorities know your wherabouts at all times).

[Haplotype0]

@sp0rtswr1ter150 I agree with you completely. I think it does effect them though. Whether it is just a little or a significant amout, whenever you add something like that into a training regimen there is an effect. So comparing that to Ray Robinson is still not an equal comparison.

[beniamingt]

This is not a man should prove to his innocence. The rules are bad? Let's change them, but does not require an athlete, that would be more saint than pope.

[owengg17]

Blood testing is the only way. Some people argue that urine can test for EPO too so why blood test or that no one has ever been busted for EPO with a Blood test so why bother cause it doesn't work. Those are bumk arguements. The best thing you get from blood testing is the Hematocrit, which tests the fractional concentration of red blood cells in serum. This is an indirect test for EPO b/c if someone's Hematocrit is high, by proxy you know he's doped. You don't need to find exhogenous EPO.

[meyoutoobthem]

@owengg17

the big deterrent with usada testing is the fact your samples are held for up to eight years. They could test those samples when new technologies or new designer peds are discovered. To someone like pac if he's doping could ruin his legacy and career in one test, whether its now or years from now. I think he'll stick to the commission for scheduled testing. (even though he said he'd take any test, and the nsac also offered to do additional testing 2 years ago and they declined)

[owengg17]

@meyoutoobthem Ya thats another very good point.  I hadn't considered that. Just another example of what professional sports should be doing to further deter its athletes.

[meyoutoobthem]

@owengg17

I cant wait to do the visual test at the weigh in when pac's head size is directly comparable to the last time he fought marquez. smoking gun baby.

[OJfIash]

Nice video Dwyer you make some great points!

[SuttieTheFan]

An excellent video. I think it should be on the same lines as that in Swimming and Atheletics.

[vonzen]

great video... 

[truthseek99]

if any of you meat eaters knew whats in your food (especially Americans). you'd learn something shocking. lol

[tko1984]

Great video Dwyer, you can definitely tell you are a Lawyer in this one :)

[MentalReserve]

de la hoya fought mosely in his prime and on steriods twice, he fought Bernard Hopkins in his prime, he fought Tito Trinidad in his prime,he fough Vargas in his prime. ....Then when oscar is OUT of his prime he fought P4P King Floyd mayweather Jr in his prime, He fought P4P King pacman in his prime...That is a very good record and Oscar deserves more Respect than pacman and floyd

[uknown786]

dwyer you need to start dropping names instead of 'this fighter was ''middleweight champion'

[DR1V3Rca220ne]

@uknown786 The middleweight that won the heavyweight but tested positive was James Toney. The two fighters that ODLH fought were Vargas and Mosley, although Mosley took steroids only before the rematch.

The other fighter future HOFer who's been linked to steroids I think (the only one I'm not sure of) is Roy Jones.

[yarmus718]

@uknown786 James Toney. Most boxing fans know this.

[Alar1115]

I agree with everything Dwyer has said. The catch though I believe is money, these guys aren't looking to be remembered for their accomplishments, but for the 20 million dollar purses and pay per view kickbacks.

[daaraindon]

OST needs to be implemented for sure, it's a must. I mean the urine tests are so dated and you have to go with the times. But the problem is, you need to present the case to the commissions of boxing and convince them that it is a time for change. No one does that. Mayweather for example, goes on racial and defaming rants about  Manny Pacquiao. Floyd is intelligent, why won't he present this to the commissions, get it approved and be remembered for cleaning up the sport.

[iamrob7]

So when we compare a modern fighter who is tested fully to a great, can we now only compare them to fighters pre 1950 with full confidence?

[iamrob7]

So whilst Armstrong was outside of the steroid period, the vast majority of boxers who people consider legends came after steroids became regularly available.

They also boxed during a time when testing didn't exist or was far less strict than it is today.

So it raises a lot of unfortunate questions, legends such as Ali, Frazier, Jones Jnr, Tyson, Hagler, Leonard etc etc all have to be called into question because quite frankly it is more likely they were juicing than the fighters today.

[realtalk897]

@iamrob7 you make perfect sense.. if i ali or tyson or anyone one of them, id be pissed off at Floyd

[realtalk897]

@realtalk897 if i "were"**

[iamrob7]

I like the idea though of the boxers who are fully tested getting some sort of recognition for that I like. I think it is a good idea.

The only problem is all of the fighters from the 70s, 80s, 90s have to come under serious question also. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Tyson, Roy Jones Jnr, Hagler, Leonard etc etc all used steroids and performance enhancing drugs on a regular basis. In fact any boxer since the late 40s quite possibly juiced on a regular basis.

[iamrob7]

There is a very high probability of EPO being detected in regular(24-48)/random urine testing alone these days, at the very least it is as reliable, if not more reliable than random blood testing for HGH.

Additional blood testing for EPO would increase that probability, however regular/random urine testing is effective enough for EPO that an athlete would have to be quite a gambler to take the risk.

The science is advancing all the time, the testing will only get better.

[Ponce417]

great vid, thanks. Unfortunately we're not going 2 see D kinda testing that is needed any time soon. Mostly because boxing is as much a sport as a reality tv show. Fighters are not pitted against each other based on real talent but instead on D great storyline they can make to generate interrest and hopefully sell ppv/tickets. Aside from D obvious, Pacquiao, I wouldn't be surprised if most boxers R taking PEDs. Right now the incentive outweighs D risks. Why wouldn't a boxer use PEDs?

[bcsolutions]

dwyer once again you are on point.. I have always believed that any opponent has the right to demand a test if he feels he is up against someone using enhancement, alternatively both should be allowed to use enhancements to be on even grounds. I also know for sure that if this test issue was the other way around, mayweather would have been stopped from boxing and the news would make headlines. I will be at the haye match at vip, follow me on twitter @ylord

[007tubeless]

The fact: All professional sports do not require unlimited drug tests. Only unlimited urine testing are taken in place. I don't think it can implement to diminishing sport like BOXING.

Lance Armstrong's case, a non-professional cyclist cannot be taken parallel to boxing. In short, it's a big political issue to deal with. And also, you can't use this bloody thing to insinuate some fighters for your own convenience of talking.

[itoako61]

@007tubeless I totally agree with you. It's like they know better than the assigned pro for this kind of tests. This falls into category of gossip.

Anyway, isn't it more accurate to use the hair for testing? Drugs lasts long on hair & can be detected days even months after using the substance.

[BigOldMrKnish]

this is why i love youtube! this is the last bastion of hope for the independent voice that isn't beholden to higher ups and bought up by the corporate media. long live youtube! fuck all cheaters! last words...:TAKE THE FUCKING TEST!!!! thanks, dwyer70905

[manymul]

@BigOldMrKnish HEY WHOSE CHEATING HERE!

[fiboxing]

By the way it is outrageous that a guy who has been convicted for providing PEDs to professional and Olympic athletes to be working with a professional athletes like Nonito Donaire

[fiboxing]

Thanks for bringing this up, hopefully your video will encourage many people to make their own research and realize how easy is to take Performance Enhancing Drugs (PEDs) in professional sports without getting caught ...specially in boxing

[JBelgrave]

Blood testing is needed in every sport. The Floyd SRR comparison is absolutely heinous though, Robinson fought 200 fights vs anybody. Floyd would rather fight his girlfriend than get in the ring with a champion.

[Lucian86]

EVERYBODY IS ON STEROIDS !!! how about that ?!?!

[kawaiisaki]

cmon Manny has cheated on his wife. got a prostitute pregnant, said on national tv he doesnt even know what a steroid is or looks like, and he says he agrees to full testing while his team says otherwise. Cmon Manny needs to take a RANDOM Lie detector test as well as random blood testing.

[bertmarx]

what about the people who lose money because a fighter was juicing against a guy they bet on..

[barlog20]

This vid is kryptonite to Pacquaio worshippers,as a matter of fact any vid that makes sense is kryptonite to Pacqauiao worshipers.Also the press is bias towards fighters that are ask to take a OSDT because those fighters are cash cows plus their is`nt alot of big names in boxing so some of the media tries to discredit the fighter asking for a OSDT.

[bertmarx]

roy jones tested positive

[bertmarx]

take the test manny!!! take the test!! are you willing to take the test!!!

[BlackPoisonxX]

Great Video Dwyer I hate cheaters take the drug tests Manny

[factsism11]

klitschko used peds also & never got caught so how do we know he wont use it on haye?& its plenty of drug cleansers at the drug store like gnc,same stores that sell peds sell things 2clean u out its like a dirty secret.

[STONRUNNIT]

@NiccoloA HGH isnt performance enhancing? Then why is it illegal?Studies have shown that HgG provides athletes with denser bones, thicker skin, less fat, and more lean body tissue. Thus allowing one to absorb punches easier etc..its all in the same vein as enhancing one's performance. Even being able to look more physically ripped gives an advantage.At the highest levels of sport, a tiny edge can make a big difference. blood testing Invasive? in a sport where you can be killed?..

[crimen]

pac=steroid freak

[batosmak]

Homicide Hank.

[BERNARDO712]

@NiccoloA That is wrong. Don catlin and Victor Conte BOTH said that there needs to be blood testing.

If urine testing alone was enough, then why do the olympics and all major world testing bodies test blood?

The other thing that blood testing does is "establish a baseline". If you don't know this, don't comment.

[smzslider]

good thing pacman agreed to all the blood, urine, and all body fluid testings whew go pacman!!! Mayweather just go fight pacman get a losss in your record and get it over and done with.

[overlordkrull]

Are YOU willing to take the test?!

best shirt ever

[manalotj]

3:36 would that be James Toney?

[hawkermustang]

Cycling and the Olympics have had the most stringent testing, yet many have cheated and got away with it, some have been caught.

[prospectboy]

Well stated!

[hawkermustang]

Screw PED testing let all these cheats juice up and get their punk asses in the ring. Oscar was the man. He beat Vargas on the juice and Mosley in the 2nd bout on the juice, but the judges screwed him.

As far as Armstrong goes? I bet many of the losers on the other team were cheating just the same.

Anyway Many has reluctantly agreed to any testing and Floyd still wouldn't take the fight.

[angelfleet1]

great thoughts dwyer

[Houseofthe7gayboys]

The current problem in the perception and implication of the drug testing issue and the greater issue of cheating in sport has been corrupted by PBF and his clan, in the manner they brought it to the fore, denigrating the real significance of the drug issue for a negotiating and marketing ploy, a kinda 'pot calling the kettle' black scenario.

If you know anything about ped usage in boxing and other athletic endeavors, listen to Victor Conte and the physiotherapeutic and sport science community

[Houseofthe7gayboys]

@Houseofthe7gayboys(2) and you will realize that the greatest benefit of epo, hgh, ilgf 1 and 2, whole blood storage and transfusion, plt derived growth factor for superior angiogenesis etc... is used optimally during rest, recuperation and during the early phase of training...anabolic steroids, natural and artificial, can benefit a fighter months before a fight....that's why testing needs to be not only random but throughout the year, not only during the two to three months prior to a fight...

[Houseofthe7gayboys]

@Houseofthe7gayboys (3) even more so, testing, randomized and throughout the year needs to be implemented on boxers who go into protracted time off or sham retirement (pbf) if they want to have the option of returning into pro boxing....these time off is the optimal time when the full spectrum of peds can be exploited with impunity without testing. Vitali admitted outright of using hgh and anabolic steroid for enhance recovery from arthroscopic knee surgery when he retired only to return

[Houseofthe7gayboys]

@Houseofthe7gayboys (4) When floyd returned from an 18 months retirement and fought Marquez, he looked riped, huge and didn't loose a step. Following that, a protracted time off then a fight with Mosley wherein he looked even bigger and more muscular than Mosley!....Now he is retired and taking time off again and seemingly acting even more impudent as if driven by a rage artificially induced...many in the community suspect pbf to be the greatest abuser of the best peds money can buy

[Houseofthe7gayboys]

@Houseofthe7gayboys (5) It is within this context that make the mayweathers' accusation so impudent, turning the table of suspicion from them to the current most compelling money making boxer in the Pacman...a brilliant move, I must admit, a move that trumped even the most wily of negotiator in Arum who failed miserably in his fiduciary responsibility to his fighter and company by allowing the testing issue to be an issue of negotiation...

[meyoutoobthem]

@Houseofthe7gayboys

manny asked for more things outside the commission, and has had more favors than any other fighter of this generation. asking for additional testing is not uncommon, its been done in the past and has been a non issue.

[tenfoldsoffspring]

@Houseofthe7gayboys Floyd has ALWAYS been ripped..remember..this dude is addicted 2 training.runs 10miles a day.trains 8hrs a day..he has ALWAYS been sUPERRIPPED ever since he was a frail kid..he didnt change overnight...and when he fought Mosley he was only 147..go back on youtube and look at his old fights...he ALWAYS been ripped...Manny turned into a wwf wrestler practically overnight...Manny was BIGGER when he fought cotto than he was when he fought de lahoya and he weighed about the same

[Houseofthe7gayboys]

@tenfoldsoffspring All this back and forth can be calmed down a click by having the year round testing proposed, for both active fighters and those taking long time off or in retirement who would like the privelege of returing as an active pro boxer...and do understand that the best most sophisticated ped requires a sophisticated advanced medical and scientific instrastructure such as obtained in the US, Europe and Eastern Blockers, but no one beats AMERICA both in supply and demand.

[tenfoldsoffspring]

@Houseofthe7gayboys Shid when Manny fought Margarito he was bigger than when he fought delahoya and he weighed about the same....Boxing has a HORRIBLE drug test...and when u have a fight of this magnitude with a defeated champion fighting, cant take no risk....Its too easy for someone to cheat and get away with it, and with a fight of this magnitude, there should be NO oppurtunity for someone to cheat....Its not like its backyard brawling..this is the most professional pugilist contest out there

[Houseofthe7gayboys]

@tenfoldsoffspring What Manny has done does put him in the Freak category and he looked bad when Arum dropped the ball and got outmaneuvered by Mayweather and/or Ellerbe/haymon. A very interesting article/study on skeletal mass/frame size, chin and punching power in relation to wrist size attempts to scientifically explain such anomaly...google Leandro Solis' study in Bad Left Hook's Boxing Science section entitled Manny Pac's deception of the Expert......

[Houseofthe7gayboys]

@tenfoldsoffspring It's funny and profound at the same time--u suspect manny as I suspect floyd....If both of these guys are clean and all natural, then it is a testament to their greatness that they have so many unbelievers for true greatness defies convention!

[MrLouieG]

@tenfoldsoffspring drug testing is old news.manny agreed to full random testing up until the fight.now it is up to mayweather if he accepts the 50 million dollar offer.so what now is your take mayweather fan?

[CHRISTIANNWO]

@MrLouieG Manny never agreed to the test, if he did then the fight wouldve happened a year ago.

[factsism11]

@CHRISTIANNWO no he didnt,that clip is old but when it was time 2fight he said only up to 7days b4 the kontz own admittion. fight by

[factsism11]

@CHRISTIANNWO my bad i meant 2post 2the other guy

[MrLouieG]

@CHRISTIANNWO he never agreed but now he will agree according to his interviews.so what's up to floyd?he won't accept the 50 million dollar offer?we are now talking about the future and not the past.forget about it.pac agrees now we are waiting for floyd to give his signal.

[CHRISTIANNWO]

@MrLouieG Manny's fighting Juan now; you would have to wait till next year to see Mayweather Pacquiao. Who knows who Floyd is fighting next (Hope its Martinez) but I hope that the next time the opportunity comes to make the fight, I hope Manny accepts it.

[kawaiisaki]

@CHRISTIANNWO Manny will never take the test. If he wanted to show the world he was clean he would offer Marquez an olympic style randomize blood testing . Both would be subjected then the world would know the truth. He knows he needs to juice up to overpower marquez because if he didnt use it he might be sluggish and weak n everyone would know he was using before

[princekody]

@kawaiisaki sorry bro but pac have taken the test agianst mosley and gues what its negative u flomos still dont learn.

[kawaiisaki]

@princekody sorry bro pac has never taken any random blood testing. theres a difference with regular and randomized. you cant prepare ahead if you dont know when your going to be tested. Mosley Vargas, Vladimir. all steroid users.. all tested negative. lol just flomos still dont learn? look whos the ignorant one.

[iamrob7]

@kawaiisaki Actually although prince is wrong in his claim, Pac did take a random blood test before his fight with Morales in 2003. 2 Days before the fight out of the blue, Morales was suspicious of Pacquiao and organised it so his original blood test went missing. Hence the need to spring a test on him 2 days before the fight unexpectedly. The test came back negative. Pacquiao felt the test so close to the fight affected him negatively, hence the reluctance to do it again.

[kawaiisaki]

@iamrob7 he doenst need to dehydrate to make weight anymore and hes much thicker n bigger. taking blood shouldnt affect him the same way it did when he was smaller. he needs to do random testing because hes a professional athelete and he owes it to the world. we need to know , like dwyer said, so we can clearly judge him and place him in history

[iamrob7]

@kawaiisaki I agree, I'd like to see testing enforced for all fights. However when I come to judge MP and his issues with it I have to take into consideration that this is a guy who grew up with virtually no education in a country full of superstition. If on some mental level Pacquiao believes there is something in it then I think it is a little absurd for me, a westerner, to judge him for it.

A urine test for HGH is not far away, so sooner or later blood testing won't be an issue anyway.

[sofue30]

@kawaiisaki what if Manny is clean? would you consider him the best of all time.. umm i dont think so .. i think you're just insinuating that Manny uses PED. Why didn't people care about it back then? why now? I GUESS IF FLOYD IS SCARED THEN WE SHOULD BOW TO HIS REQUEST.. RIDICULOUS..

[kawaiisaki]

@sofue30 If pac takes the test and beats floyd he will be the best fighter in my books. floyd bowed dowinn to mannys request for 10 mil per lbs penalty ring size glove size even split 50/50. just one simple request from mayweather was rejected. people didnt care back then because the issue wasnt braught up. if your clean you would want to take the test to prove to the world. denying olympic style. the Most prestigious form of testing availble to keep a even playing field is very Suspect.

[MrLouieG]

@CHRISTIANNWO floyd will not come back anymore.martinez,cotto,ortiz and pacquiao will beat him and hbo will not accept bums against floyd anymore.i am sorry if you are a fan of floyd but that is my take.i said it a year ago and i am still right.i said he will not come back.

[CHRISTIANNWO]

@MrLouieG I think he will; Floyd would easily beat Ortiz and Cotto, are serious? Martinez vs Mayweather.....thats the fight of the century right there.

[MrLouieG]

@CHRISTIANNWO if he beats them he should come back.

[tenfoldsoffspring]

@MrLouieG Manny SAID he agreed but his advISER slipped up and said something different...dont listen to arum...one day he will turn on Manny like he did Floyd and Oscar!

[piffpete420]

@MrLouieG really Manny Pacquiao agreed to testing up until the fight?? Wow your a pactard, Manny never agreed past 14 days keep your uneducated comments to yourself please.

[MrLouieG]

@piffpete420 i am not a pactard.i just have to tune in to you tube.that is all.but i must admit i am a floyd hater eversince that is why i will always go for whoever makes floyd look bad.i don't even mind if ortiz gives floyd the first beating instead of manny.LOL!

[BlackPoisonxX]

@MrLouieG what does this have to due with the issue of drug testing in boxing?

[MrLouieG]

@BlackPoisonxX about which part i said?i don't understand you.for me i don't care because everybody is just doing their job.the boxing authoritities,promoters,boxers­...they are just doing their job.if floyd or any person wants to clean up boxing,you all make a masterplan present it and defend it from all questions.do not go to media and destroy another man's reputation.what floyd and his family did is very cheap.

[prince111705]

@piffpete420 search this at you tube,"PACQUIAO AGREES TO RANDOM BLOOD TESTING AND WANTS FLOYD"..the video/interview was made when pac was training for mosley...it is proof of what nelson mandelas daughter was saying that there were recent negotiation and all was agreed including the random blood testing...till floyd ask for the 100 million guaranteed which cause the negotiation to fail again..im not a pactard and im not a floyd hater but its all over you tube..

[DR1V3Rca220ne]

@prince111705 Mayweather Jr never said that he wanted 100 millions. It was his father/uncle who joked about it in a video heavily edited by Elie Sechback. This is a rumor that was started by bob Arum.

Manny never held a conference or said to any major sport journalist that he wants 2 take the full random blood test. He says that every now and then, between the lines, to the Filipino croud. But he never said it publicly or in the US. Koncz publicly stated that he'll take it with a 7 day cut-off.

[prince111705]

@DR1V3Rca220ne who would you believe pacquiao or micheal koncs??dude the interviewer was a reporter from boxingscene...thats very reliable unlike those anonymous sources that the haters always say but cant prove it and show it...even oscar and richard admitted to their wrong accusation towards pacquiao...you guys should stop being in denial..

[DR1V3Rca220ne]

@prince111705 Boxingscene is a RELIABLE site? It's a bunch of writers that make money with the "penny-click" system, they make money on Filipinos and other Pactards just by putting the "Pacquiao" name on half of their articles! They are paid for doing that. It's like "Examiner.com". It's a business bro.

Oscar is so confused he could sue himself......

I ain't saying he's on HGH for sure...but damn it, at least reckognize what's a con and what's not. Boxingscene??? Cm'on bro.

[prince111705]

@DR1V3Rca220ne so which site is reliable for you??whose reliable for you??let me guess "teddy atlas" is one of your choices...bro im just tellin the facts,oscar apologized to pac for the wrong accusation and i admire oscar for that...pacquiao past every drugtest in every state he ever fought at,thats a fact..if someone said its not enough and still accuse him of using illegal drugs is like saying all the great fighters since drug testing begun in the history of boxing is a suspect..get that bro?

[princekody]

@piffpete420 actually their team agreed up to 7 days even conz and roach said that u can see at 247 of margopacquiao fight and recently pac himself said at the interview that his agreeing to all floyds demands including the random testing he took floyd bluff but wrs floyd?watch this"manny pacquiao agrees to random blood test and wants floyd"floyd will never run out of excuse he knows pac is just to much to handle ryt now.

[barlog20]

@MrLouieG The question is does Manny means it when he says he agrees to full testing up to the day of the fight..Arum already lied claiming that Floyd asked for 100 million dollars and Pacquaio claimed he does`nt know what a steroid is.The "take the test" t-shirt from Floyd is now available,lets see if Pacquiao really means it.

[Infern0121]

interesting video Dwyer

[soloM81]

wahaha get ready for the hate mail

[Tips4n00bs]

That was a beautiful speech, this man loves the sport and its clear for all to see

[x2SIKxDelucious]

Agree!!!!



[blacksixspeed]

dwyer, if mayweather cared about "clean" wins, why did he fight shane mosley, who admittedly used PEDs? my next question for you is do you consider shooting xylocaine into one's knuckles before a fight is clean? only in nevada i guess

mayweather beats women and is in trouble with the law all of the time i dont think he deserves to be in that conversation.

[stunnaonflyrims]

@blacksixspeed Shane agreed and did the drug testing. You must rely on facts and not opinions. Clearly Shane Mosely is STILL a significant fighter so the challenge was welcome from both sides who agreed on the terms. Your personal opinion however is subjective and ill supported... therefore is moot.

[blacksixspeed]

@stunnaonflyrims ill supported? this guys name is in the news all of the time, most recenty beating his women on 9 13 2010

he is trash and to name him in the same sentencewith SRR is very insulting if floyd mayweather is so great why didnt he win a gold medal? lol it was fun talking to you. btw jose luiz castillo 1 suck it!

[Pullcountertv]

@blacksixspeed Thats a silly question, Manny fought Shane also (But Floyd did the testing, Manny did not). You guys are pathetic, the man has a valid video and you come with idiotic logics that backfire.

All fighters need to be tested (Blood & Urine RANDOMLY including Floyd) Do you feel the same way about Manny?

[blacksixspeed]

@Pullcountertv i never said a word about the fighter you are talking about. read my post i am talking about floyd mayweather in my post sir.

[Pullcountertv]

@blacksixspeed but u reek of pactardation. I know what you were implying sir

[blacksixspeed]

@Pullcountertv you talking shit cunt? don't insult me pussy.

[ZatoOW]

@blacksixspeed IF I recall he broke his hand in one of his earlier fights and that hand was never the same again. He then decided to numb that hand so he can fight without feeling the pain in that hand. I could be wrong though but that's what I remember reading about this subject.

[Pullcountertv]

Well put.

[alitap]

IS XYLOCAINE A FAIR PLAYING FIELD?

[Pullcountertv]

@alitap No it's not, this is why these fighters need to be not only tested but tested randomly (Blood and urine).

[SmelOdies]

@Pullcountertv Google "hearns leonard steroids." It's interesting than the stars made such accusations about each other as far back as '89.

[Pullcountertv]

@SmelOdies Good find man, I had no Idea.

[alitap]

@Pullcountertv LOL, yea right its not. if i can numb my face or take cocaine and not feel the pain then that is a sure advantage. and BHOP should have taken the test also, coz he sure looks suspect.

[Pullcountertv]

@alitap I agreed with you, dumbass....

[MarkFromJeeeerrsey]

nice video



[blacksixspeed]

chael sonnen the mortgage fraud steroid abuser, accused lance armstrong of giving himself cancer from roids. takes one to know one i guess.