Nice lesson and k-bar...I was raised, C.O.C. and the day I left it was the best day of my life so far. I need to get this to my mom in Austin so she can watch it. Thanks.
@materialclassified Thanks Brother. I forgot to take the k-bar off for the video. LOL. Where are you living now? I see your mom is in TX. Tell her I have a lot of things I can share with her about the error in the C.O.C.. I used to be a C.O.C. preacher, then I learned the Name of YHWH in 1986 which changed everything for me. I began to see the other things that were changed in YHWH's Word, so that began my exodus from the C.O.C. and churchianity. Keep in touch. YHWH bless.
@lllannallll "People are perishing for lack of knowledge" is a quote from Scripture. Yes sacrifice is still required. The animal sacrifices were shadows of Messiah, you should know that. "All is not fulfilled, read Mt. 24:20-51, and tell us all when this was fulfilled. It says several times "He is coming", so did we miss His coming and the Judgement Day? Also read Zechariah chapter 14 and tell us when that happened, and notice the Feast mentioned there. You need to quit teaching and learn more.
@lllannallll If the Scriptures say we are the seed of Abraham then we are the seed of Abraham. We are heirs and joint heirs according to the promise given in Genesis. Can't you see that if you do away with the so called "Old Covenant" that you have done away with the promises, the prophecies, and your hope of salvation?
The arguments of Sunday-keeping anti-nomians is illogical, unfounded and contradicts the teachings of the Messiah, and the Apostles; it's anti-Messiah doctrines!
@lllannallll Actually YHWH kept the Sabbath from the 7th day of creation. Because Adam and Hawah were created on the 6th day, they (along with the creatures) observed the 1st Sabbath. This is our example.
@zmanjohn00 Actually, the Bible never says that, and you'd need to really PROVE beyond any doubt that ANYONE from Adam until Moses EVER kept the Sabbath. Can you?
@lllannallll Genesis 2:2,3 actually does say He Shabbat, which means He kept the sabbath. Ps. 81:1-4 clearly shows that 400 plus years before Mt. Sinai and Moses that Joseph kept the Feast days, you ignorant non-Scriptural teacher of lies. I know you are a Torahless tyrant and I'm tired of your attacks on the Word of YHWH. The appointed days Joseph kept are found in chapter 23 of Leviticus. I've been kind to you but it is time to put you in your place with your teacher, Satan. REPENT PLEASE!
@natzrim Oh, you're TIRED of the fact that you must twist "feast days" to mean "SABBATH" - and of course it means no such thing. Excuse me, Psalms 81 seems to merely say the "God of Jacob", and says not ONE word about Jacob keeping the Sabbath, does it? THAT is what you can't find! You think because God is the God of Issac, of Jacob, of Moses, etc that THAT somehow binds the Sabbath upon US? Oh, come on! You give us THE VERSE which states JACOB kept the SABBATH.
@lllannallll Please read Leviticus chapter 23 and take note of the fact that YHWH says these are "HIS" Sabbaths, which are "HIS" appointed times. YHWH help you to see HIS Words and forget the lies that men and satan have used to cloud your mind from HIS TRUTHS and HIS WAYS.
@natzrim Does Lev 23 occur chronogically AFTER Moses and Mt Sinai? If so, the passage does you no good, for all know that Moses received the law to "Remember the Sabbath day" at that time. Prior to that, there is no record of ANYONE observing the Sabbath for any reason. So, does Lev 23 occurs after Moses and Mt. Sinai? If not, your point is well taken. If so, then your point IS no point - it's not relevant. May God help you to answer. It's "yes" or "no" and you brought the passage up.
@lllannallll We are to "follow" Messiah's way of life (Mt. 10:38). He kept the Sabbaths (Lk. chp. 2, Lk. 4:16). YHWH is Messiah and the Creator, read John chp. 1 and Col. 1:16-18. 1 Cor. 10:1-4 says He was the "Rock" during the Exodus, the "Rock" is YHWH (Deut. 32:1-4). It was Messiah that created the Sabbath for us and His Words will judge us in the last day, or do you believe John 12:48? You are decieved, for there is only "ONE" Word, but you're blinded to that concept too it seems. Repent.
@natzrim And I've been kind to YOU, although you must leap right back PAST the cross into David's GOATPEN in order to defend your teachings. Notice the lil spin you put on Psalms 81, yet you CANNOT and WILL NOT give a single verse that says Joseph or Jacob or Issac or Abraham or Noah EVER kept the Sabbath. Do YOU claim to celebrate the PASSOVER? PENTECOST? THE SABBATH? Maybe ANIMAL SACRIFICES, INCENSE, and INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC IN WORSHIP. You want your SABBATH, then take it ALL.
@lllannallll Acts chp. 2 says "Pentecost fully come" after Messiah's death burial and resurrection!!!! Why do Sunday keepers not believe that? They also ignore the FACT that Paul kept the "Law" and proved that he "kept the law" that you Sunday keepers say is abolished. See Acts 21:24 says that the false accusations are "not so", which is the Greek word "oudeis" and means "nothing at all". The charges are lies, so you make Paul out to be a liar; why must you support and follow the lies? Repent.
@lllannallll Why is it that anything errantly thought to be "Jewish" only is so replusive to pagans? The Messiah was/is 100% "Jewish". To whom is the "New Covenant" made with according to Jer. 31:31-33? Does Jer. 31 say anything negative about them "damned old Jews" or any covenant being made with a pagan ham sandwich eating, sabbath breaking gentile? NO!!! They don't even believe the Messiah's Words when He says keep the Torah, nor do they know His Name!!! Poor pagans, no covenant, no Torah!!!
@natzrim "To whom is the "New Covenant" made with according to Jer. 31:31-33?" LOL Is the BEST you can do to learn about the NEW TESTAMENT or NEW COVENANT to jump right smack in the middle of the OLD COVENANT. JEREMIAH was written right SMACK in the middle of Judaism - there WAS no "new covenant" at the time. "Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt." He made NEW COVENANT.
@natzrim "Messiah said the Sabbath was made for man that word "anthropos" includes all mankind, hene the reason for Isaiah 56:1-6 including all mankind" I saw that - or similar - and no, I am reasonably sure that it's quite a stretch to make Isaiah 56 refer ALL THE WAY BACK to Adam, but it seems to me that you Judaizers MUST HAVE a rather VIVID imagination - including your own BIBLE TRANSLATION. Truth is: YOU do not KEEP the Jewish LAW at all - you want to hold on to PART of it.
@natzrim "When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat . . .?" (Amos 8: 5). That's a good question! "And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day" (Amos 8: 9) Now all you'll need to do is FIND OUT, if you can, WHEN the earth was darkened at noon. Hint: "noon is the 6th hour." You might check Matt 27: 45, Mark 15: 33, etc.
@natzrim "You are not sincerely seeking Truth. I've asked you questions that you won't answer." And you've done the same. I've asked for a verse that says Joseph kept the Sabbath - you said he DID, so let's see it. In fact, let's see ANYONE keeping the Sabbath before Moses. That's SINCERE. I'll sincerely ask YOU to even find a verse or passage that mentions BOTH Joseph AND the Sabbath: you probably can't even find THAT.
@zmanjohn00 "This is our example." Umm, at the moment, this is your ASSERTION, and I'm afraid you'd need a little more that just saying "Adam and Eve were CREATED on the 6th day so it follows that they RESTED on the next day."
@zmanjohn00 "he Father resting on the seventh day is not an assertion." You are correct! Anyone ELSE resting on the weekly Sabbath as a religious observance prior to Mt. Sinai IS an assertion, and UN-provable.
@lllannallll So, what did Joseph do if the Sabbaths were appointed during his time according to Psalms 81:4? You have just been deceived into believing lies, by those that despise YHWH's Name and His Torah.
@natzrim "So, what did Joseph do if the Sabbaths were appointed during his time according to Psalms 81:4?" Oh, IF the Sabbaths were APPOINTED as a weekly day of worship DURING the lifetime of Joseph, then I'm quite sure he KEPT the Sabbath. So it would be great if you'd prove that the weekly Sabbath was GIVEN to MAN and OBSERVED by MAN during the life of Joseph and prior to Mt Sinai. What does Ps 81: 4 really say? In fact, what does Psalm 81 SAY about the Sabbath?
@lllannallll Your arguments only prove you only want to prove what you already believe. It is evident that you do not want to see the Messiah's teachings on the Sabbaths, for you don't believe He's the Way and you don't believe Him when He says that the Sabbath was created for man in Mark 2:27. When was the Sabbath created? The reason "FOR" keeping the Sabbaths is given in Ex. 20:11; why won't you believe what the Word says? Ever read 2Tim. 3:15-16, and is that wrong too? You're deceived.
@lllannallll What I meant was it is FACT...not an assertion...not the same thing. The funny thing is people want to ignore the obvious because they don't want to change their lifestyles. People want to believe that translators never make mistakes.
@zmanjohn00 "Because Adam and Hawah were created on the 6th day, they (along with the creatures) observed the 1st Sabbath." That's an ASSERTION - u can't prove it. If you can PROVE IT, by all means, do so.
@zmanjohn00 "People want to believe that translators never make mistakes." Nope, you're wrong. I'll most assuredly agree that translators, by the very NATURE of their work, inevitably make mistakes. So you just throw up a strawman in order to punch on him,
@lllannallll First off, my comment was not directly aimed at you. I have discussed various translations with many people. All of them have said their translation of choice was "inspired by God," and other comments such as "my bible calls him Jesus, who the hell is Yahushua?" Translating the Scriptures is a VERY dangerous task--not because of "the very nature" of translating, but because of motive. Even simple research into the KJV will reveal King James himself wanted a promoted doctrine...
@zmanjohn00 "Even simple research into the KJV will reveal King James himself wanted a promoted doctrine" Such "simple" research that THAT is common knowledge: take the pseudotranslation of 'baptizo' for example. But some of these folks NOT ONLY condemn inaccurate translation, BUT ALSO pretty much condemn ANY translation at all. They pick and choose and include and eliminate some words, especially NAMES, about like ole King James did.
@lllannallll You are not sincerely seeking Truth. I've asked you questions that you won't answer, and you just keep attacking people with your opinions. We don't want YOUR opinion, we are Truth seekers. Read Psalms 81:1-4 and tell me what was appointed to Joseph in Egypt and where you find these appointed days listed in the Scriptures. If your sincere then you'll do this; if you don't I'll block your insincere offensive comments from here. I hope you'll sincerely reply with an answer. Thank you.
@lllannallll If the Word that was given at Mt. Sinai is abolished as your church teaches then why does Spirit filled Stephen say those Words are living in Acts 7:38? Why does Paul prove he keeps the Law that your church says was nailed to the cross (Acts 21:24)? Your doctrines make liars of Messiah and His Apostles. Messiah said "His words will judge you in the last day", but you teach His words were abolished since they were before His death. Was Paul lying in Acts 25:8 also? Stop the lies.
@lllannallll You can not find the name of YHWH in the standard translations either; this proves the translations are aiding the blaspheming of YHWH's Name (Rev. 13:1,6). The Sunday churches argue that 9 of the 10 Commandments are reinstituted in the New Testament, so why do they break the 3rd Commandment by bringing His Name ot nothing as Exodus 20:7 teaches that He will not leave anyone unpunished that brings His Name to nothing. Acts 9:14 tells how Paul identified believers, are you one?
Nice lesson and k-bar...I was raised, C.O.C. and the day I left it was the best day of my life so far. I need to get this to my mom in Austin so she can watch it. Thanks.
materialclassified 9 months ago
@materialclassified Thanks Brother. I forgot to take the k-bar off for the video. LOL. Where are you living now? I see your mom is in TX. Tell her I have a lot of things I can share with her about the error in the C.O.C.. I used to be a C.O.C. preacher, then I learned the Name of YHWH in 1986 which changed everything for me. I began to see the other things that were changed in YHWH's Word, so that began my exodus from the C.O.C. and churchianity. Keep in touch. YHWH bless.
natzrim 9 months ago
@lllannallll "People are perishing for lack of knowledge" is a quote from Scripture. Yes sacrifice is still required. The animal sacrifices were shadows of Messiah, you should know that. "All is not fulfilled, read Mt. 24:20-51, and tell us all when this was fulfilled. It says several times "He is coming", so did we miss His coming and the Judgement Day? Also read Zechariah chapter 14 and tell us when that happened, and notice the Feast mentioned there. You need to quit teaching and learn more.
natzrim 11 months ago
@lllannallll If the Scriptures say we are the seed of Abraham then we are the seed of Abraham. We are heirs and joint heirs according to the promise given in Genesis. Can't you see that if you do away with the so called "Old Covenant" that you have done away with the promises, the prophecies, and your hope of salvation?
The arguments of Sunday-keeping anti-nomians is illogical, unfounded and contradicts the teachings of the Messiah, and the Apostles; it's anti-Messiah doctrines!
natzrim 11 months ago
@lllannallll Actually YHWH kept the Sabbath from the 7th day of creation. Because Adam and Hawah were created on the 6th day, they (along with the creatures) observed the 1st Sabbath. This is our example.
zmanjohn00 11 months ago
@zmanjohn00 Actually, the Bible never says that, and you'd need to really PROVE beyond any doubt that ANYONE from Adam until Moses EVER kept the Sabbath. Can you?
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll Genesis 2:2,3 actually does say He Shabbat, which means He kept the sabbath. Ps. 81:1-4 clearly shows that 400 plus years before Mt. Sinai and Moses that Joseph kept the Feast days, you ignorant non-Scriptural teacher of lies. I know you are a Torahless tyrant and I'm tired of your attacks on the Word of YHWH. The appointed days Joseph kept are found in chapter 23 of Leviticus. I've been kind to you but it is time to put you in your place with your teacher, Satan. REPENT PLEASE!
natzrim 11 months ago
@natzrim Oh, you're TIRED of the fact that you must twist "feast days" to mean "SABBATH" - and of course it means no such thing. Excuse me, Psalms 81 seems to merely say the "God of Jacob", and says not ONE word about Jacob keeping the Sabbath, does it? THAT is what you can't find! You think because God is the God of Issac, of Jacob, of Moses, etc that THAT somehow binds the Sabbath upon US? Oh, come on! You give us THE VERSE which states JACOB kept the SABBATH.
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll Please read Leviticus chapter 23 and take note of the fact that YHWH says these are "HIS" Sabbaths, which are "HIS" appointed times. YHWH help you to see HIS Words and forget the lies that men and satan have used to cloud your mind from HIS TRUTHS and HIS WAYS.
natzrim 11 months ago
@natzrim Does Lev 23 occur chronogically AFTER Moses and Mt Sinai? If so, the passage does you no good, for all know that Moses received the law to "Remember the Sabbath day" at that time. Prior to that, there is no record of ANYONE observing the Sabbath for any reason. So, does Lev 23 occurs after Moses and Mt. Sinai? If not, your point is well taken. If so, then your point IS no point - it's not relevant. May God help you to answer. It's "yes" or "no" and you brought the passage up.
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll We are to "follow" Messiah's way of life (Mt. 10:38). He kept the Sabbaths (Lk. chp. 2, Lk. 4:16). YHWH is Messiah and the Creator, read John chp. 1 and Col. 1:16-18. 1 Cor. 10:1-4 says He was the "Rock" during the Exodus, the "Rock" is YHWH (Deut. 32:1-4). It was Messiah that created the Sabbath for us and His Words will judge us in the last day, or do you believe John 12:48? You are decieved, for there is only "ONE" Word, but you're blinded to that concept too it seems. Repent.
natzrim 11 months ago
@natzrim And I've been kind to YOU, although you must leap right back PAST the cross into David's GOATPEN in order to defend your teachings. Notice the lil spin you put on Psalms 81, yet you CANNOT and WILL NOT give a single verse that says Joseph or Jacob or Issac or Abraham or Noah EVER kept the Sabbath. Do YOU claim to celebrate the PASSOVER? PENTECOST? THE SABBATH? Maybe ANIMAL SACRIFICES, INCENSE, and INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC IN WORSHIP. You want your SABBATH, then take it ALL.
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll Acts chp. 2 says "Pentecost fully come" after Messiah's death burial and resurrection!!!! Why do Sunday keepers not believe that? They also ignore the FACT that Paul kept the "Law" and proved that he "kept the law" that you Sunday keepers say is abolished. See Acts 21:24 says that the false accusations are "not so", which is the Greek word "oudeis" and means "nothing at all". The charges are lies, so you make Paul out to be a liar; why must you support and follow the lies? Repent.
natzrim 11 months ago
@lllannallll Why is it that anything errantly thought to be "Jewish" only is so replusive to pagans? The Messiah was/is 100% "Jewish". To whom is the "New Covenant" made with according to Jer. 31:31-33? Does Jer. 31 say anything negative about them "damned old Jews" or any covenant being made with a pagan ham sandwich eating, sabbath breaking gentile? NO!!! They don't even believe the Messiah's Words when He says keep the Torah, nor do they know His Name!!! Poor pagans, no covenant, no Torah!!!
natzrim 11 months ago
@natzrim "To whom is the "New Covenant" made with according to Jer. 31:31-33?" LOL Is the BEST you can do to learn about the NEW TESTAMENT or NEW COVENANT to jump right smack in the middle of the OLD COVENANT. JEREMIAH was written right SMACK in the middle of Judaism - there WAS no "new covenant" at the time. "Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt." He made NEW COVENANT.
lllllannalllll 11 months ago
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@natzrim "Messiah said the Sabbath was made for man that word "anthropos" includes all mankind, hene the reason for Isaiah 56:1-6 including all mankind" I saw that - or similar - and no, I am reasonably sure that it's quite a stretch to make Isaiah 56 refer ALL THE WAY BACK to Adam, but it seems to me that you Judaizers MUST HAVE a rather VIVID imagination - including your own BIBLE TRANSLATION. Truth is: YOU do not KEEP the Jewish LAW at all - you want to hold on to PART of it.
lllllannalllll 11 months ago
@natzrim "When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat . . .?" (Amos 8: 5). That's a good question! "And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day" (Amos 8: 9) Now all you'll need to do is FIND OUT, if you can, WHEN the earth was darkened at noon. Hint: "noon is the 6th hour." You might check Matt 27: 45, Mark 15: 33, etc.
lllllannalllll 11 months ago
@natzrim "You are not sincerely seeking Truth. I've asked you questions that you won't answer." And you've done the same. I've asked for a verse that says Joseph kept the Sabbath - you said he DID, so let's see it. In fact, let's see ANYONE keeping the Sabbath before Moses. That's SINCERE. I'll sincerely ask YOU to even find a verse or passage that mentions BOTH Joseph AND the Sabbath: you probably can't even find THAT.
lllannallll 11 months ago
@zmanjohn00 "This is our example." Umm, at the moment, this is your ASSERTION, and I'm afraid you'd need a little more that just saying "Adam and Eve were CREATED on the 6th day so it follows that they RESTED on the next day."
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll the Father resting on the seventh day is not an assertion.
zmanjohn00 11 months ago
@zmanjohn00 "he Father resting on the seventh day is not an assertion." You are correct! Anyone ELSE resting on the weekly Sabbath as a religious observance prior to Mt. Sinai IS an assertion, and UN-provable.
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll So, what did Joseph do if the Sabbaths were appointed during his time according to Psalms 81:4? You have just been deceived into believing lies, by those that despise YHWH's Name and His Torah.
natzrim 11 months ago
@natzrim "So, what did Joseph do if the Sabbaths were appointed during his time according to Psalms 81:4?" Oh, IF the Sabbaths were APPOINTED as a weekly day of worship DURING the lifetime of Joseph, then I'm quite sure he KEPT the Sabbath. So it would be great if you'd prove that the weekly Sabbath was GIVEN to MAN and OBSERVED by MAN during the life of Joseph and prior to Mt Sinai. What does Ps 81: 4 really say? In fact, what does Psalm 81 SAY about the Sabbath?
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll Your arguments only prove you only want to prove what you already believe. It is evident that you do not want to see the Messiah's teachings on the Sabbaths, for you don't believe He's the Way and you don't believe Him when He says that the Sabbath was created for man in Mark 2:27. When was the Sabbath created? The reason "FOR" keeping the Sabbaths is given in Ex. 20:11; why won't you believe what the Word says? Ever read 2Tim. 3:15-16, and is that wrong too? You're deceived.
natzrim 11 months ago
@lllannallll What I meant was it is FACT...not an assertion...not the same thing. The funny thing is people want to ignore the obvious because they don't want to change their lifestyles. People want to believe that translators never make mistakes.
zmanjohn00 11 months ago
@zmanjohn00 "Because Adam and Hawah were created on the 6th day, they (along with the creatures) observed the 1st Sabbath." That's an ASSERTION - u can't prove it. If you can PROVE IT, by all means, do so.
lllannallll 11 months ago
@zmanjohn00 "People want to believe that translators never make mistakes." Nope, you're wrong. I'll most assuredly agree that translators, by the very NATURE of their work, inevitably make mistakes. So you just throw up a strawman in order to punch on him,
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll First off, my comment was not directly aimed at you. I have discussed various translations with many people. All of them have said their translation of choice was "inspired by God," and other comments such as "my bible calls him Jesus, who the hell is Yahushua?" Translating the Scriptures is a VERY dangerous task--not because of "the very nature" of translating, but because of motive. Even simple research into the KJV will reveal King James himself wanted a promoted doctrine...
zmanjohn00 11 months ago
@zmanjohn00 "Even simple research into the KJV will reveal King James himself wanted a promoted doctrine" Such "simple" research that THAT is common knowledge: take the pseudotranslation of 'baptizo' for example. But some of these folks NOT ONLY condemn inaccurate translation, BUT ALSO pretty much condemn ANY translation at all. They pick and choose and include and eliminate some words, especially NAMES, about like ole King James did.
lllannallll 11 months ago
@lllannallll You are not sincerely seeking Truth. I've asked you questions that you won't answer, and you just keep attacking people with your opinions. We don't want YOUR opinion, we are Truth seekers. Read Psalms 81:1-4 and tell me what was appointed to Joseph in Egypt and where you find these appointed days listed in the Scriptures. If your sincere then you'll do this; if you don't I'll block your insincere offensive comments from here. I hope you'll sincerely reply with an answer. Thank you.
natzrim 11 months ago
@lllannallll If the Word that was given at Mt. Sinai is abolished as your church teaches then why does Spirit filled Stephen say those Words are living in Acts 7:38? Why does Paul prove he keeps the Law that your church says was nailed to the cross (Acts 21:24)? Your doctrines make liars of Messiah and His Apostles. Messiah said "His words will judge you in the last day", but you teach His words were abolished since they were before His death. Was Paul lying in Acts 25:8 also? Stop the lies.
natzrim 11 months ago
@lllannallll You can not find the name of YHWH in the standard translations either; this proves the translations are aiding the blaspheming of YHWH's Name (Rev. 13:1,6). The Sunday churches argue that 9 of the 10 Commandments are reinstituted in the New Testament, so why do they break the 3rd Commandment by bringing His Name ot nothing as Exodus 20:7 teaches that He will not leave anyone unpunished that brings His Name to nothing. Acts 9:14 tells how Paul identified believers, are you one?
natzrim 11 months ago
awesome keep up the good work ! YHWH bless
lorikeller73 11 months ago
Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Elohim and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind!
Proof the commandments were not only for the Yisraelites. They are for ALL MEN! Great job brother.
faxchase 11 months ago
Thanks for the video brother, Shabbat Shalom! Love it when I've got something to study through like this on Sabbath.
YAHUWAH bless friend!
faxchase 11 months ago
@faxchase Shabbat Shalom in YHWH's Name. I hope all is well with your study today. Keep in touch. YHWH bless.
natzrim 11 months ago