Well. some interesting comments here. Yes, Lincoln was overly idealized as are many of our noble historical figures. One problem I am seeing with the comments here is that we are judging by the thought of our day instead of his ie, the peeps and attitudes back then were so different. Racism was ingrained in that society and don't forget Lincoln was a politician, hence having to speak to engage his crowd.
It is astounding that the crimes of the Lincoln administration and the US military have been so disguised, excused, and covered up. Had Thomas Jefferson been alive in 1861, he would have called for not only an impeachment against Lincoln, but his death for treason against the US Constitution, and the people of the South.
Of course, to the victor goes the spoils, and the greatest of these is the right to compose the "acceptable" history that will be force-fed to generations.
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Hooray! It's time to out this dictator! i would also nominate James K. Polk, William McKinley, Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, and George W. Bush as candidates to be tried as war criminals. They should have all been impeached and sentenced. Thanks for speaking the truth.
Finally, someone has the guts to call it as it is: Lincoln was a horrible tyrant, with no respect for the Constitution and human rights. May I add the names of William McKinley, Woodrow Wilson ( the worst! ), Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and George W Bush as war criminals? The best were Washington, Cleveland, Harding, Coolidge, and Eisenhower. Historians seem to like the Constitution wreckers and those who spilled our blood.
Also, I think it is illegal for the federal government to occupy a state with its military without the approval of the state. I dont think that the Conferate States of America have ever given consent for the forces that are still here from the War of Southern Independence to remain here, which they do. Much of the military in the South was brought here by invasionary force on order of your precious Lincoln. .
I have been doing research for a school project for AP U.S. History, and it is written in either the constitution or the decleration, probably the constitution, that when a state wants to leave, it can.
You remember correctly AGrunt7. The Declaration of Independence (our declaration of "succession" from Great Britton) states it clearly. Our forefathers, who understood oppressive government (King George) well, meant for none of us to again be subjected to tyrannical government and the right of succession was to be the check against it. Lincoln trampled that document (and the Constitution) and again reduced us to mere "subjects" of an unchecked system where we remain till this day.
"To secure these rights (of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness), Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed... Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." - Declaration of Independence, 1776 It doesn't get any clearer than that. The South was Right.
Surrender..."It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern schoolbooks their version of the War; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant deed as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision." - Gen. Patrick R. Cleburne CSA - a highly educated man and obvious visionary
You retarded yankee. The South couldn't care for themselves after your ancestors looted & burned everything. The North starved prisoners for sport. The "Constitution" YOU are so proud of didn't come into being until reconstruction and the Southern States were FORCED to ratify it. Texas never did. Happiness is a north-bound yankee on I-95.
It definitely was NOT a crime for a State to leave the Union in 1860. It was allowed in the Articles Of Confederation as a deterrent to tyrannical British-style government. That is why Jefferson Davis was never tried for his "crimes". Yankees knew the Southern States had done nothing against the Constitution and were afraid to chance a trial. They would have only proven THEMSELVES guilty of THEIR crimes. So he was "pardoned". Don't whiz on other people's legs and tell them it is raining.
Oh there is more than enough evidence do damn Mr Davis. The Southeren Prison Camps were enough to damn him. Here are some to name Andersonville Camp 45,000 Union Soldiers were here 13,000 died of disease and poor treatment. Dont piss on your own legs mr.
And when you get your Degree in US. History you go ahead and let me know. There are alot of presidents that we didnt agree with and never started a "civil war" over.
To let you know a little about "Articles of Confederation" They were created in 1777 and were our "first constitution" and save it that it was more for the protection of personal liberty but, it was proven that the United States Constitution was stronger than the "Prepetual Union". And we still to this day and forever will go by the United States Constitution since 1790.
So we want to talk about war crimes eh...Lemme see here. Is it not a crime to SUCCEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? Did Abe not Pardon the CRIMES OF THE SOUTH? SO if you really want to crack on someone for War Crimes it should be ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO SUCCEDE. This broke THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. hmmm... And you say that Lincoln should be hanged. Sounds like your a bunch of right wing extremists.
Secession is legal. A contract says what someone can do. It does not list EVERYTHING someone cannot do or else the document would be as long as the history of the world. The constitution lists powers that the sovereign states deligate (allow) to the federal government. The states are superior to the consolidated government, and have the authority to leave a voluntary union. You can't even spell secede!
Abraham Lincoln was a punk. Really, the only person today who can still deny it is a self righteous northerner trying desperatetly to hang on to the myth that his ancestors robbed, raped, pillaged, burned, starved, tortured, and murdered old men, women, and children in an out-of-control orgy of depravity for the "good" of this country because Lincoln wanted to "free the slaves". So Sad. Pol Pot, Stalin, and Hitler are proud. People today know better. Lincoln's myth has finally run it's course.
This video tells the truth. The writ of habeus corpus can be suspended mind you...... by Congress. It is found in Article 1 Section 9 as a specific power of Congress under specific criteria: Rebellion and Invasion. Secession itself is not rebellion, it is the right of association and disassociation for matters between peoples.
There is no likewise clause in Article 2, which specifies the powers of the Presidency.
Wow-this is the stupidest thing i have ever seen. It's sad some ignorant fool can make such a video and put it out where others can see just how much of an ignorant fool he is. Learn your history you clueless dipstick! lol lincoln a white supremicst that's bull crap if i've ever heard it...
Hey! Correct that to say, "It's sad some ignorant fool can make such a video and put it out where others can see just how much of an ignorant fool SHE is"!
You are the ignorant fool, not the guy in the vid. The difference is that he has actually *read* some history. If you want to actually find out what the civil war was about read lincoln's letter to horace greely. It was *not* about freeing slaves.
the suspension of habeus corpus was legal at the time Lincoln temporarily took it away. the constitution states that in times of civil war or uprising it is the president's right to suspend habeus corpus. I don't know why white supremacy what brought up in the video as the Southern people were notorious white supremecists. Nathan Bedford Forrest himself was a high level figure with in the Klu Klux Klan.
Check your facts, everything you accuse Lincoln of doing, Davis did just as well...including centralizing a stronger government, exactly what redneck rebels claimed they were fighting against!
Who said rebel trash had to sit south of the Mason-Dixon? This moron could live in Tahiti and it won't change the fact that he doesn't know his own history.
...add to that list of Lincoln's crimes: the creation of the nation's first income tax, and the creation of the IRS...
Hyyr2000 1 year ago
If you were president, WWYD?
beinzee 1 year ago
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The facts regarding Lincoln here have been extremely twisted. You're a bunch of tea-party-morons.
I feel dirty just watching this caca video! yeeech!
cuberland17a 1 year ago
Lincoln is Guilty as Charged!
Let Dixie go Free and Live in Peace!
David14Lane 2 years ago 5
@David14Lane How about Dixie let the slaves go, and compensate them for their labor.
DonMeaker 3 weeks ago
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This is hilarious. A village where everyone is the idiot.
kazmanian27 3 years ago
Well. some interesting comments here. Yes, Lincoln was overly idealized as are many of our noble historical figures. One problem I am seeing with the comments here is that we are judging by the thought of our day instead of his ie, the peeps and attitudes back then were so different. Racism was ingrained in that society and don't forget Lincoln was a politician, hence having to speak to engage his crowd.
Judge him by his times, not by ours folks.
joestallion007 3 years ago 2
It is astounding that the crimes of the Lincoln administration and the US military have been so disguised, excused, and covered up. Had Thomas Jefferson been alive in 1861, he would have called for not only an impeachment against Lincoln, but his death for treason against the US Constitution, and the people of the South.
Of course, to the victor goes the spoils, and the greatest of these is the right to compose the "acceptable" history that will be force-fed to generations.
Deo Vindice!
Graymalkin2001 3 years ago 6
how come Lincoln is held as a great hero in all our public school history books? maybe because the dept of education is corrupt?!
utmost11 3 years ago 6
@utmost11 Perhaps because he was great. by contrast, Jeff Davis was a corrupt loser.
DonMeaker 3 weeks ago
state:
1. The supreme public power within a sovereign political entity.
2. The sphere of supreme civil power within a given polity
803honda 3 years ago
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JAKEtheuser 3 years ago
Hooray! It's time to out this dictator! i would also nominate James K. Polk, William McKinley, Woodrow Wilson, Harry Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, and George W. Bush as candidates to be tried as war criminals. They should have all been impeached and sentenced. Thanks for speaking the truth.
billyguns2 3 years ago 7
Let the lawful sentence be executed!
Live414 4 years ago 6
Finally, someone has the guts to call it as it is: Lincoln was a horrible tyrant, with no respect for the Constitution and human rights. May I add the names of William McKinley, Woodrow Wilson ( the worst! ), Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, and George W Bush as war criminals? The best were Washington, Cleveland, Harding, Coolidge, and Eisenhower. Historians seem to like the Constitution wreckers and those who spilled our blood.
billyguns2 4 years ago
I'd say Thomas Jefferson is in there with being one of the best, too.
AmericanWayne 3 years ago 3
Yes, I agree; Jefferson was up there with the best, can't believe I left him out. Madison and Monroe, especially Monroe, were also terrific.
billyguns2 3 years ago
Also, I think it is illegal for the federal government to occupy a state with its military without the approval of the state. I dont think that the Conferate States of America have ever given consent for the forces that are still here from the War of Southern Independence to remain here, which they do. Much of the military in the South was brought here by invasionary force on order of your precious Lincoln. .
AGrunt7 4 years ago
I have been doing research for a school project for AP U.S. History, and it is written in either the constitution or the decleration, probably the constitution, that when a state wants to leave, it can.
AGrunt7 4 years ago 2
You remember correctly AGrunt7. The Declaration of Independence (our declaration of "succession" from Great Britton) states it clearly. Our forefathers, who understood oppressive government (King George) well, meant for none of us to again be subjected to tyrannical government and the right of succession was to be the check against it. Lincoln trampled that document (and the Constitution) and again reduced us to mere "subjects" of an unchecked system where we remain till this day.
ichykawa 4 years ago 2
thank you ichykawa.
AGrunt7 4 years ago
"To secure these rights (of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness), Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed... Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." - Declaration of Independence, 1776 It doesn't get any clearer than that. The South was Right.
ichykawa 4 years ago
Surrender..."It means the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern schoolteachers; will learn from Northern schoolbooks their version of the War; will be impressed by the influences of history and education to regard our gallant deed as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit objects for derision." - Gen. Patrick R. Cleburne CSA - a highly educated man and obvious visionary
rjcantrell 4 years ago
Świat jest jednak pełen buraków.
Kharmazov 4 years ago
Fuck Lincoln. He got what he deserved.
1861!
LucanWolf1 4 years ago 3
You retarded yankee. The South couldn't care for themselves after your ancestors looted & burned everything. The North starved prisoners for sport. The "Constitution" YOU are so proud of didn't come into being until reconstruction and the Southern States were FORCED to ratify it. Texas never did. Happiness is a north-bound yankee on I-95.
rjcantrell 4 years ago
It definitely was NOT a crime for a State to leave the Union in 1860. It was allowed in the Articles Of Confederation as a deterrent to tyrannical British-style government. That is why Jefferson Davis was never tried for his "crimes". Yankees knew the Southern States had done nothing against the Constitution and were afraid to chance a trial. They would have only proven THEMSELVES guilty of THEIR crimes. So he was "pardoned". Don't whiz on other people's legs and tell them it is raining.
rjcantrell 4 years ago
Oh there is more than enough evidence do damn Mr Davis. The Southeren Prison Camps were enough to damn him. Here are some to name Andersonville Camp 45,000 Union Soldiers were here 13,000 died of disease and poor treatment. Dont piss on your own legs mr.
rommelott1943 4 years ago
And when you get your Degree in US. History you go ahead and let me know. There are alot of presidents that we didnt agree with and never started a "civil war" over.
rommelott1943 4 years ago
To let you know a little about "Articles of Confederation" They were created in 1777 and were our "first constitution" and save it that it was more for the protection of personal liberty but, it was proven that the United States Constitution was stronger than the "Prepetual Union". And we still to this day and forever will go by the United States Constitution since 1790.
rommelott1943 4 years ago
Articles > Constitution
as far as personal freedom and impotent (=better) government is concerned.
thorsmitersaw 4 years ago
So we want to talk about war crimes eh...Lemme see here. Is it not a crime to SUCCEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? Did Abe not Pardon the CRIMES OF THE SOUTH? SO if you really want to crack on someone for War Crimes it should be ALL THOSE IN FAVOR TO SUCCEDE. This broke THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. hmmm... And you say that Lincoln should be hanged. Sounds like your a bunch of right wing extremists.
rommelott1943 4 years ago
AMEN!!!!
USA0806 4 years ago 3
Secession is legal. A contract says what someone can do. It does not list EVERYTHING someone cannot do or else the document would be as long as the history of the world. The constitution lists powers that the sovereign states deligate (allow) to the federal government. The states are superior to the consolidated government, and have the authority to leave a voluntary union. You can't even spell secede!
gwhayden3 4 years ago 4
Everyone who reads this, google search "goldismoney two forms of government, two forms of citizenship."
2Halifaxion2 4 years ago
Abraham Lincoln was a punk. Really, the only person today who can still deny it is a self righteous northerner trying desperatetly to hang on to the myth that his ancestors robbed, raped, pillaged, burned, starved, tortured, and murdered old men, women, and children in an out-of-control orgy of depravity for the "good" of this country because Lincoln wanted to "free the slaves". So Sad. Pol Pot, Stalin, and Hitler are proud. People today know better. Lincoln's myth has finally run it's course.
rjcantrell 4 years ago
This video tells the truth. The writ of habeus corpus can be suspended mind you...... by Congress. It is found in Article 1 Section 9 as a specific power of Congress under specific criteria: Rebellion and Invasion. Secession itself is not rebellion, it is the right of association and disassociation for matters between peoples.
There is no likewise clause in Article 2, which specifies the powers of the Presidency.
KushinLos 4 years ago
The BS that most kids are taught in school about the civil war is the ultimate case of history being written by the winners.
olivercmit 4 years ago
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Wow-this is the stupidest thing i have ever seen. It's sad some ignorant fool can make such a video and put it out where others can see just how much of an ignorant fool he is. Learn your history you clueless dipstick! lol lincoln a white supremicst that's bull crap if i've ever heard it...
SoloDestroyer 4 years ago
Hey! Correct that to say, "It's sad some ignorant fool can make such a video and put it out where others can see just how much of an ignorant fool SHE is"!
TackleTheWorld 4 years ago
@SoloDestroyer
You are the ignorant fool, not the guy in the vid. The difference is that he has actually *read* some history. If you want to actually find out what the civil war was about read lincoln's letter to horace greely. It was *not* about freeing slaves.
olivercmit 4 years ago
I salute this video Lincoln was absolutley the worst President ever! The CSA was awesome.
JEV4 4 years ago
hah
Aesthir 4 years ago
the suspension of habeus corpus was legal at the time Lincoln temporarily took it away. the constitution states that in times of civil war or uprising it is the president's right to suspend habeus corpus. I don't know why white supremacy what brought up in the video as the Southern people were notorious white supremecists. Nathan Bedford Forrest himself was a high level figure with in the Klu Klux Klan.
comradealexie 4 years ago
Great video!!!! One down a lot more to go.
slimat420 4 years ago
More revisionist horseshit from Southern morons.
Check your facts, everything you accuse Lincoln of doing, Davis did just as well...including centralizing a stronger government, exactly what redneck rebels claimed they were fighting against!
detectivethorne 4 years ago
This is in New Hampshire, dude. Which, for the uninitiated, is a northern state. Borders Canada in fact.
PowRhead 4 years ago
Who said rebel trash had to sit south of the Mason-Dixon? This moron could live in Tahiti and it won't change the fact that he doesn't know his own history.
detectivethorne 4 years ago
Too bad no people of power get served justice while they are alive.
lordmetroid 4 years ago