@dueltruckman Count the turns of the wheels over at least three seconds. Find out what size they are and the rest is simple arithmetic. It'll be pretty close.
@Zahn ... you're critical of everyone's filming and everyone's upload of anything someone else filmed. Get your camera out there, chase these steam giants and post your own vids.
at 1:30 that was just so nice to see her blow by those diesels almost like if she could talk she'd say i was here first im still here ill be here long after your turned to scrap i was and still am the 2nd biggest locomotive only one bigger is my brother the big boy
If only I was alive back in the day of steam....Greatly appreciate the UP crews that keep the 3985, and the 844 running. Along with all the other tourist lines that operate steam.
lololol at the cabos at the end. Man if I only had the money I would find and restore as many of the late grate giant steam engiens that I could find, to running order. They really just make everyone happy.
wow thats after they restored her to operational condition. also looking at that caboose reminds me that its a shame they stopped using cabooses as well, just a shame.
I'll bet the engineer on the other train was suprised to see the 3985 going that fast with a freight train! This is steam power showing them diesels how its done. 10 stars!
I think they need to restore the other challenger if its possible and some other steam loco giants like a big boy if feasible or another of the 800 series if any others besides 844 are left and 844's parts locomotive we need more steam!
@MasterNinjaDM they oughta restore one of only 2 surviving C&O H-8 'Allegheny' engines. don't know of any other locomotive that could haul 8000 tons at 45 mph singlehandedly except for the UP 4000s.
@MasterNinjaDM both are in museums; one i think is in Baltimore, MD. would mean a whole heck of a lot of paperwork even to just restore it back to running condiyion and a bunch more paperwork to get a company or some other people to run it and maintain it.
@Fireheart528 Amen to that but if a RR did buy them they and all of the other steam giants and running steam could have i think it was an Expo back in the '90s when they had a bunch of Steam meet in STL Union Station i know they had that NW big steam before it was taken offline and it had 844 when it was still 8444 and i think 4449 was also there
hauling both? I know she is used for excursions frequently and I think the one that pulls the train to the rodeo in the west up into the colorado mountains, but also freight, they never let 765 do that anymore unless its being on the front end for a trip to the turntable at the west wayne yards in fort wayne with a train, but nothing would surprize me these days.
@Jemalacane i don't think it would be impossible, but it would be very difficult. are you talking about MUing two steam locos together or are you talking about a steam loco MUed to a diesel?
@Jemalacane Well, steam would be very difficult to MU together, due to the fact that nobody has ever done it before, and the electrical wiring that would be necessary would be difficult to program to a control stand in the leading locomotive. Now MUing a steamer to a diesel woulnd't be as hard, because most every diesel has MU technology. Its coordinating the two different types of locomotives together that would be the problem.
I'm pretty sure they only need the diesels when tackling mountain grades. Don't want a steamer burning out it's brakes and going runaway. You usually don't see diesels when it goes east.
What better way to top off 3985 pulling a revenue freight (as she should!) than with a a caboose on the end!
Love the IC whislte as well... I'm a big fan of UP's big, deep, masculine sounding whistles, but the IC's extra bet of mellow sure does sound beautiful...
Man, that IC 3 Chime Steamboat Whistle sounds beautiful. I bet it would sound just as good on Reading & Northern #425 today. Great video, dcoursey82. Later!
@deloreanman14 There's no "law" that requires a diesel, most railroads just simply require them as back to allow a steamer to run on their rails. Just look at UP 844 running around the Midwest right now with no diesels.
@deloreanman14 I'm not sure the law does, actually. 3985 took a trip to Missouri this October WITHOUT any diesel escorts for the entire trip. Admittedly, it was the first time I've seen either of UP's steamers without a diesel along.
@deloreanman14 Have you ever tried to handle a heavy freight without any dynamics at all? Probably not, which is why you don't appreciate just how useful those diesels are.
This should be happening everyday. :P
CoryClaxon 3 days ago
Great camera work on the pacing. As good as it gets.
Rocketboy1950 6 days ago
can you edit out the narration? I would like to use these as sounds samples
tonytonytonyargh 2 weeks ago
How fast are you paceing her at?
dueltruckman 1 month ago
@dueltruckman Count the turns of the wheels over at least three seconds. Find out what size they are and the rest is simple arithmetic. It'll be pretty close.
Rocketboy1950 6 days ago
I LOVE the chrome (guessing?) chassis
sslitherr 1 month ago
Showing those diesels!
Rtchugg 2 months ago
Loves having his hand on his horn doesn't he!!!
MrFlemball 2 months ago
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BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES WHAT A BEUTIFUL MYSTICLE WISTLE THUMB MY COMMENT UP IF YOU AGREE...... :')
fishworldhacker 2 months ago
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fishworldhacker 2 months ago
Wow Nice...I just let this Video running and at the same Time famous Orange Blossom Special (watch?v=o7td3w9da68). Perfect... :)
Zugvogel1 2 months ago
its not just a show piece /show train.. she can still also work too..thats great to see somthing like that halls freight too..
Rrb2287 3 months ago
so beautiful words cannot describe it
Unguidedone 3 months ago
Very nice video. Thumbs up! :)
megatwingo 3 months ago
Nice to see that they put the other trains into the siding for her! Age deserves respect!
wavehopper100 5 months ago
@Zahn ... you're critical of everyone's filming and everyone's upload of anything someone else filmed. Get your camera out there, chase these steam giants and post your own vids.
werksdesign 5 months ago 2
@werksdesign If you beg my I'll give you my autograph.
Zahn 5 months ago
@Zahn I didn't film this, you tit! It clearly says in the annotation at the beginning AND in the video info where the footage came from.
dcoursey82 5 months ago 4
at 1:30 that was just so nice to see her blow by those diesels almost like if she could talk she'd say i was here first im still here ill be here long after your turned to scrap i was and still am the 2nd biggest locomotive only one bigger is my brother the big boy
rinalin 7 months ago
@rinalin actuly (sorry about my grammar) my sister bigboy other then that perfect
doedante99 3 months ago
NICE! This my first time seeing a Steam Locomotive pulling modern day fraight cars
Go Train Go
Survivor1547 7 months ago
NICE! This my first time seeing a Steam Locomotive pulling modern day fraight cars
Survivor1547 7 months ago
What a wonderful, wonderful whistle!
drrgperrin 7 months ago
TOUGH engines make smoke,ITS CALLED HAULING POWER
kiwicockers 7 months ago
Gotta be one IDIOT that didn't like the video ...........
TrainAsia 8 months ago
@TrainAsia
They probably missed the like button. :P
beaglemanzzz 8 months ago
@beaglemanzzz - hahaha ... ok, I accept that! >_<
TrainAsia 7 months ago
If only I was alive back in the day of steam....Greatly appreciate the UP crews that keep the 3985, and the 844 running. Along with all the other tourist lines that operate steam.
foroke1 8 months ago
It looks right with a caboose and no intermodal cars
Amtrak1194 8 months ago
lololol at the cabos at the end. Man if I only had the money I would find and restore as many of the late grate giant steam engiens that I could find, to running order. They really just make everyone happy.
IIIJFRIII 8 months ago
its like a blast from the past. LONG LIVE 3985!
trainmanauxl1 9 months ago
i thought she only caried her support car when she was pulling passanger trains
crazietraindude 10 months ago
wow thats after they restored her to operational condition. also looking at that caboose reminds me that its a shame they stopped using cabooses as well, just a shame.
Barricade360 10 months ago
Could even tag the phrase 'long-legged' on her--thats the way to haul a fast freight!!
Fireheart528 1 year ago
@Bassfanatic94 The one on there in this video sounds a bit better than the original whistle.
Fireheart528 1 year ago
I seem to recall that the regular whistle on this unit is down inside the chimney... Why did they do that? Clearance, maybe?
randommagnum 1 year ago
A thing of beauty.
clam502 1 year ago
I'll bet the engineer on the other train was suprised to see the 3985 going that fast with a freight train! This is steam power showing them diesels how its done. 10 stars!
Fireheart528 1 year ago
Nice video. I don't understand why Steve Lee changes the whistle on this beauty. I like the regular ones.
Bassfanatic94 1 year ago
why dont they use 3985 for freight anymore?
bluesguitardude 1 year ago
I think they need to restore the other challenger if its possible and some other steam loco giants like a big boy if feasible or another of the 800 series if any others besides 844 are left and 844's parts locomotive we need more steam!
MasterNinjaDM 1 year ago
@MasterNinjaDM Two other FEF's are left. One FEF-1 and FEF-2.
PereMarquette1223 1 year ago
@MasterNinjaDM they oughta restore one of only 2 surviving C&O H-8 'Allegheny' engines. don't know of any other locomotive that could haul 8000 tons at 45 mph singlehandedly except for the UP 4000s.
Fireheart528 1 year ago
@Fireheart528 That would be cool were are they located?
MasterNinjaDM 1 year ago
@MasterNinjaDM both are in museums; one i think is in Baltimore, MD. would mean a whole heck of a lot of paperwork even to just restore it back to running condiyion and a bunch more paperwork to get a company or some other people to run it and maintain it.
Fireheart528 1 year ago
@Fireheart528 Amen to that but if a RR did buy them they and all of the other steam giants and running steam could have i think it was an Expo back in the '90s when they had a bunch of Steam meet in STL Union Station i know they had that NW big steam before it was taken offline and it had 844 when it was still 8444 and i think 4449 was also there
MasterNinjaDM 1 year ago
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Excellent photography long live steam !! from an aussie fan
MegaWitchGirl1 1 year ago
Excellent photography long live steam !!
MegaWitchGirl1 1 year ago
shes doing what she was built for!
anvil357 1 year ago 3
@anvil357 Aye, ye got that right! Theres nae reason she shouldna be in revenue service, either.
Fireheart528 1 year ago
@anvil357 Challengers were dual service locomotives. So they hauled heavy passenger trains as well. Just like 3985 does most of the time today.
Vorahk3985 3 weeks ago
hauling both? I know she is used for excursions frequently and I think the one that pulls the train to the rodeo in the west up into the colorado mountains, but also freight, they never let 765 do that anymore unless its being on the front end for a trip to the turntable at the west wayne yards in fort wayne with a train, but nothing would surprize me these days.
manga12 3 weeks ago
No words can describe how this video made me feel!!
Watching a Challenger blow past all that modern equipment almost made me cry!!
CSXer 1 year ago
@CSXer you got that right. Lord, she was moving right along! You happen to know how many cars they were pulling?
Fireheart528 1 year ago
Would it be completely impossible to make a steam locomotive that has DB and MU capability?
Jemalacane 1 year ago
@Jemalacane i don't think it would be impossible, but it would be very difficult. are you talking about MUing two steam locos together or are you talking about a steam loco MUed to a diesel?
Fireheart528 1 year ago
@Fireheart528 Either steam or diesel.
Jemalacane 1 year ago
@Jemalacane Well, steam would be very difficult to MU together, due to the fact that nobody has ever done it before, and the electrical wiring that would be necessary would be difficult to program to a control stand in the leading locomotive. Now MUing a steamer to a diesel woulnd't be as hard, because most every diesel has MU technology. Its coordinating the two different types of locomotives together that would be the problem.
Fireheart528 1 year ago
beautiful, I was born a little to late.
easyamp123 1 year ago
true. Funny how the Challanger steams past those idilling diesals and just kind of says 'nyah'.
qlancer 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure they only need the diesels when tackling mountain grades. Don't want a steamer burning out it's brakes and going runaway. You usually don't see diesels when it goes east.
flyinDPOD 1 year ago
What better way to top off 3985 pulling a revenue freight (as she should!) than with a a caboose on the end!
Love the IC whislte as well... I'm a big fan of UP's big, deep, masculine sounding whistles, but the IC's extra bet of mellow sure does sound beautiful...
bigtex144 1 year ago
That is one beautiful whistle.
09JDCTrainMan 1 year ago 28
@09JDCTrainMan IKR its teh original 1 to
doedante99 4 months ago
Makes me wonder why Union Pacific had to remove this beautiful IC 3 Chime!
xxxDeath9572xxx 2 years ago
why cant they do this more often, this kinda thing is awsome :D
45x45bw 2 years ago
Man, that IC 3 Chime Steamboat Whistle sounds beautiful. I bet it would sound just as good on Reading & Northern #425 today. Great video, dcoursey82. Later!
-Max
maxm2317 2 years ago
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09JDCTrainMan 2 years ago
Damn, I've been looking for something like this!
Jemalacane 2 years ago
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deloreanman14 2 years ago 11
@deloreanman14 There's no "law" that requires a diesel, most railroads just simply require them as back to allow a steamer to run on their rails. Just look at UP 844 running around the Midwest right now with no diesels.
ConrailJon 1 year ago
@deloreanman14 I'll take a steam locomotive with a diesel behind it anyday over no steam locomotive at all...
dcoursey82 1 year ago 41
@dcoursey82 HELL YA
fishworldhacker 2 months ago
@deloreanman14 I'm not sure the law does, actually. 3985 took a trip to Missouri this October WITHOUT any diesel escorts for the entire trip. Admittedly, it was the first time I've seen either of UP's steamers without a diesel along.
captaintoroca 1 year ago
@deloreanman14 It's not "The law" it's just common sense on the railroads part.
hollywood1340 1 year ago
@deloreanman14 Since when was it law to carry a dynamic brake vehicle? Pan Am Railways doesn't have a single diesel that uses dynamics.
Mcoov 10 months ago
@deloreanman14
Not sure it's a law; the UP 844 has been in Oklahoma several times recently (and will be again in June) and each time was diesel-free.
wadeharris65 9 months ago
@deloreanman14 Have you ever tried to handle a heavy freight without any dynamics at all? Probably not, which is why you don't appreciate just how useful those diesels are.
TexZak 9 months ago
Didn't know Steve Lee had his own personal IC whistle, sounds great on the 3985!
SP4449Warbaby 2 years ago
The Sound is Great!!!
cektito87 2 years ago
Awesome! Classic footage! 5*****!
DJGENEX71 2 years ago