The amount of boost you can safely use depends on your compression. A new 5.0 is 11-1 so I wouldn't put 15 pounds on it. Even ford offers a supercharger capable of making 750+ with a warranty but it doesnt put out 15lbs of boost.
You can't say each one of those mOds will make that much power exactly. When you start mixing mods things change. 425 on a bolt on 3.7 probably not going to happen. Go to american muscle website they built a v6 that runs 11's with drag radials.
@Storm7289 your joking right? and i dont need to run a shit ton of boost i have alot of mods aswell a tune but it doesnt mean i need a trillion psi. i can daily my 335i perfectly fine
@Storm7289 On a 335i, 15 psi isn't high boost at all. There are quite a few 335i's running 20 psi and they can make 500 lb-ft at the crank pretty easily.
@brandontoscano 15psi is pretty high on anything just because its a certain car doesnt mean its not high. 4 cyls crank it up even higher its just a crutch
@Storm7289 Not really. Stock STi's run 14.5 psi. Not to mention what some of these diesel trucks run (well over 20 psi stock). I'm just saying.
But anyway, the stock turbos on a 335i are extremely tiny. There are a couple single turbo kits in development for the 335i that should be making 500+whp easily, if not closer to 600whp on about the same psi that tuned 335i's are already running, maybe a little less even.
@brandontoscano thats a 4 cylinder. a diesel is a totally different equation. look at a v8+ that has FI and see how tiny the boost is. the turbos are composite thats why they are small. theres really nothing marvelous about the n54 motor its just a well built straight 6 with factory FI
@brandontoscano The 3.7 v6 comes with 305 horsepower stock. Cold air intake, headers, exhaust, injectors, throttle body, tune? You're looking at close to 400 horse. That's not even getting into performance camshafts or ported heads etc...you wouldn't even need forced induction to get 400 horse out of a 3.7 liter v6 stang.
@brandontoscano not to butt in, but I was acutally intrigued to find out power gains from performance parts on the 2012 V-6 (not taking sides here just interesting facts) a CAI will be 15-18rwhp, a tune varies from 20-25rwhp, longtube headers 15-20rwhp, throttle body 10-15 rwhp, injectors 1-2 rwhp. So total MAX-80rwhp... throw in cam + 30rwhp- so affordably, you could make a V-6 425 rwhp, nearly touching on an 05-07 GT500 which is amazing...
1. A CAI requires a tune or the car won't run right. So TOTAL CAI + tune is 15-18rwhp.
2. Injectors 0hp. Throttle body 0-1hp. The throttle body on modern cars are not a restriction.
3. When you combine mods, the gains diminish. an exhaust can add 10rwhp by itself, or headers 15. the two together would only add 20. Just an example. Bottom line, you aren't getting 400whp from an N/A V6 without SERIOUS work.
@brandontoscano It's definately possible to get 400 horsepower out of the 3.7 at the wheels without using boost or nitrous, it would definately need more valvelift and duration on those cams, higher flow fuel pump(s) and bigger injectors/throttle body, also running e-85 would be a big help. The cost isn't really the point, the point is, it can be done with an American 6 cylinder engine. I'd just assume buy a 5.0 though, much better torque curve and much better sound.
@SirKowalski666 I cost definitely was a big part of my point. It looks like you would need quite a few mods though to get 400hp out of a 3.7. If price wasn't the point I COULD go out and build a 400hp V6 Honda Accord. Just saying.
But yeah in conclusion out of all of this, if someone is looking for a new mustang just get the 5.0.
@brandontoscano That's what I think too about the 5.0, but I can't knock someone for getting the 3.7, it's got about the same power as the "old" 4.6 liter lol it's not exactly a slouch anymore.
@brandontoscano The cold air intake and tuner alone will be $750. Exhaust, headers, crossover is $1500+. And that's for about 350hp at the crank. Cams? $1500+ for 20-30hp. Ported heads? $1500-2000. That's nearly $5000 for 400-425 crank hp, if you can even hit that. Nitrous kit? $500. Power? 450hp at the crank.
@Milehighsnake98 That's pretty expensive. For that much you could probably almost buy one of those new single turbo kits for the 335i that makes 700+hp easy.
@SirKowalski666 Dead wrong. You will need one of two things to hit 400whp on a V6.
1. Race gas and very high compression and RPM's.
2. Forced induction.
there's no third option with bolt-ons. All the bolt ons in the world only get that car (which makes about 255-260whp stock) to about 310whp. A set of cams (which I don't even know if they make yet, never looked) will be $1500+ for 30hp. Cheaper to just supercharge it.
@jayG335i hey that record is to your knowing, not everything gets published. I'm about to drop everything you can think of on my 335i soon on a mass expensive project i'm doing. I can assure you that record you found will be obliterated. It's not a threat to the person who has the record you mentioned. It's more like a promise. Records are designed for one purpose, and that's to be broken
@motocrosser I couldn't agree more with you on the fact that it is orange to apple conparison, and the 5.0 does have a lot of potential for the consumer that has the money to do it. If I wanted to compare apples to apples I would compare a supercharged E92 M3 vs a F/I 5.0 and see which one will win in the track. I would have my money on the M3 all day. That's apples to apples. The only point I was making was that its good that a 335i can even hold its breath on a 5.0
@jpdrummer86 really you would lose that be then since a 5.0 does 624rwhp on 8psi otherwise bone stock i believe they got it to 685rwhp with cai 93 octane and a boss manifold. a ton of mod shops have been throwing down outrageous #'s on low boost and stock internals
@punisher your question should be who has the money and who doesn't to do these mods anyway, to each his own, and to some cause they can't. If I wanted a gas guzzling 5.0 I would out and buy one, but I like to spend my money on superior german engineering, but that's my opinion and taste, and someone else may like american better
Add downpipes,full custom catback exhaust, and meth and you'll drop that american muscle on its ass, I know a guy who has that on his 335i by where I live with JB4 all boltons by stett performance ,clutch,flywheel he's pushing close to 600whp and and 600tq , bring that mustang vs this one and it wont even be a race. Dont get me wrong that mustang is fast, but you gotta be prepped for what you race
@jpdrummer86 no... no he doesn't have anywhere near 600whp. The highest recorded 335 with fbo+upgraded turbos+meth+nitrous has 550whp. I own one with JB4, Intake, Meth and I'm at a little over 400whp/430tq
@jpdrummer86 My mustang in this video. Im very familar with Stett Performance. In fact they did the suspension on my car about 2 weeks after this race.
Your comparing apples to oranges though, F/I against N/A. You do know there is many 5.0's with a simple F/I setup at 14 pounds running over 600HP stock internals. 5.0's has been out 2 years vs 6 years for 335i's. I hardly thinkthe surface has been scratched with what theses cars are capable of with a good f/i setup running 20PSI.
This was a heavy sedan.
blackice214 6 days ago
The amount of boost you can safely use depends on your compression. A new 5.0 is 11-1 so I wouldn't put 15 pounds on it. Even ford offers a supercharger capable of making 750+ with a warranty but it doesnt put out 15lbs of boost.
hedrick5286 1 week ago
You can't say each one of those mOds will make that much power exactly. When you start mixing mods things change. 425 on a bolt on 3.7 probably not going to happen. Go to american muscle website they built a v6 that runs 11's with drag radials.
hedrick5286 1 week ago
wow a higher hp car on a lighter chassis bet the lower hp car on a heavier chassis!
atomicfire001 2 weeks ago
another slow ass 335...wow....this car is offically out of my DD consideration
yZOZerious 2 weeks ago
this is the new 5.0. And it is tuned. This car is exactly as fast as the new M3. No wounder it beats the 335.
aleksankazakov 3 weeks ago
@aleksankazakov i have a 07 335i and i beat m3's and new 5.0's all the time
playskoolonacid 3 weeks ago
@playskoolonacid thats cool wheny oure running a shit ton of boost. do you know what forced induction is?
Storm7289 3 weeks ago
@Storm7289 your joking right? and i dont need to run a shit ton of boost i have alot of mods aswell a tune but it doesnt mean i need a trillion psi. i can daily my 335i perfectly fine
playskoolonacid 3 weeks ago
@playskoolonacid youre still running a high amount of boost to make good power. 15psi isnt low boost dude....
Storm7289 3 weeks ago
@Storm7289 On a 335i, 15 psi isn't high boost at all. There are quite a few 335i's running 20 psi and they can make 500 lb-ft at the crank pretty easily.
brandontoscano 2 weeks ago
@brandontoscano 15psi is pretty high on anything just because its a certain car doesnt mean its not high. 4 cyls crank it up even higher its just a crutch
Storm7289 2 weeks ago
@Storm7289 Not really. Stock STi's run 14.5 psi. Not to mention what some of these diesel trucks run (well over 20 psi stock). I'm just saying.
But anyway, the stock turbos on a 335i are extremely tiny. There are a couple single turbo kits in development for the 335i that should be making 500+whp easily, if not closer to 600whp on about the same psi that tuned 335i's are already running, maybe a little less even.
brandontoscano 2 weeks ago
@brandontoscano thats a 4 cylinder. a diesel is a totally different equation. look at a v8+ that has FI and see how tiny the boost is. the turbos are composite thats why they are small. theres really nothing marvelous about the n54 motor its just a well built straight 6 with factory FI
pyroku101873 2 weeks ago
@pyroku101873 He said 15 psi is pretty high on "anything." Last time I checked, four cylinders and diesels fall into the "anything" category.
I'm not sure what significance your second sentence has at all. V8's can run high boost, just like any other engine.
The N54 in capable of 400+whp with less than $2000 in mods. How many other 6 cylinders can do that other than a GTR?
brandontoscano 2 weeks ago
@brandontoscano The 3.7 liter v6 in the base-model stangs can get 400 horse easy. Just saying.
SirKowalski666 1 week ago
@SirKowalski666 400whp out of a base model mustang easy? I don't know about that...
brandontoscano 1 week ago
@brandontoscano The 3.7 v6 comes with 305 horsepower stock. Cold air intake, headers, exhaust, injectors, throttle body, tune? You're looking at close to 400 horse. That's not even getting into performance camshafts or ported heads etc...you wouldn't even need forced induction to get 400 horse out of a 3.7 liter v6 stang.
SirKowalski666 1 week ago
@SirKowalski666 95 hp from just those mods? I really don't believe that, unless you can show a link online that proves it otherwise.
Those mods are also probably well over $2000 (unless they're the cheapest parts you can find).
And I'm talking wheel hp not brake hp in case you missed that.
brandontoscano 1 week ago
@brandontoscano not to butt in, but I was acutally intrigued to find out power gains from performance parts on the 2012 V-6 (not taking sides here just interesting facts) a CAI will be 15-18rwhp, a tune varies from 20-25rwhp, longtube headers 15-20rwhp, throttle body 10-15 rwhp, injectors 1-2 rwhp. So total MAX-80rwhp... throw in cam + 30rwhp- so affordably, you could make a V-6 425 rwhp, nearly touching on an 05-07 GT500 which is amazing...
07ShelbyCS 1 week ago
@07ShelbyCS hmmm interesting...I guess I didn't know that. Looks like those new 3.7s have some potential.
brandontoscano 1 week ago
@07ShelbyCS It doesn't work that way.
1. A CAI requires a tune or the car won't run right. So TOTAL CAI + tune is 15-18rwhp.
2. Injectors 0hp. Throttle body 0-1hp. The throttle body on modern cars are not a restriction.
3. When you combine mods, the gains diminish. an exhaust can add 10rwhp by itself, or headers 15. the two together would only add 20. Just an example. Bottom line, you aren't getting 400whp from an N/A V6 without SERIOUS work.
Milehighsnake98 1 day ago
@brandontoscano It's definately possible to get 400 horsepower out of the 3.7 at the wheels without using boost or nitrous, it would definately need more valvelift and duration on those cams, higher flow fuel pump(s) and bigger injectors/throttle body, also running e-85 would be a big help. The cost isn't really the point, the point is, it can be done with an American 6 cylinder engine. I'd just assume buy a 5.0 though, much better torque curve and much better sound.
SirKowalski666 1 week ago
@SirKowalski666 I cost definitely was a big part of my point. It looks like you would need quite a few mods though to get 400hp out of a 3.7. If price wasn't the point I COULD go out and build a 400hp V6 Honda Accord. Just saying.
But yeah in conclusion out of all of this, if someone is looking for a new mustang just get the 5.0.
brandontoscano 1 week ago
@brandontoscano That's what I think too about the 5.0, but I can't knock someone for getting the 3.7, it's got about the same power as the "old" 4.6 liter lol it's not exactly a slouch anymore.
SirKowalski666 1 week ago
@brandontoscano The cold air intake and tuner alone will be $750. Exhaust, headers, crossover is $1500+. And that's for about 350hp at the crank. Cams? $1500+ for 20-30hp. Ported heads? $1500-2000. That's nearly $5000 for 400-425 crank hp, if you can even hit that. Nitrous kit? $500. Power? 450hp at the crank.
Milehighsnake98 1 day ago
@Milehighsnake98 That's pretty expensive. For that much you could probably almost buy one of those new single turbo kits for the 335i that makes 700+hp easy.
brandontoscano 1 day ago
@SirKowalski666 Dead wrong. You will need one of two things to hit 400whp on a V6.
1. Race gas and very high compression and RPM's.
2. Forced induction.
there's no third option with bolt-ons. All the bolt ons in the world only get that car (which makes about 255-260whp stock) to about 310whp. A set of cams (which I don't even know if they make yet, never looked) will be $1500+ for 30hp. Cheaper to just supercharge it.
Milehighsnake98 1 day ago
@jayG335i hey that record is to your knowing, not everything gets published. I'm about to drop everything you can think of on my 335i soon on a mass expensive project i'm doing. I can assure you that record you found will be obliterated. It's not a threat to the person who has the record you mentioned. It's more like a promise. Records are designed for one purpose, and that's to be broken
jpdrummer86 3 weeks ago
@motocrosser I couldn't agree more with you on the fact that it is orange to apple conparison, and the 5.0 does have a lot of potential for the consumer that has the money to do it. If I wanted to compare apples to apples I would compare a supercharged E92 M3 vs a F/I 5.0 and see which one will win in the track. I would have my money on the M3 all day. That's apples to apples. The only point I was making was that its good that a 335i can even hold its breath on a 5.0
jpdrummer86 3 weeks ago
@jpdrummer86 really you would lose that be then since a 5.0 does 624rwhp on 8psi otherwise bone stock i believe they got it to 685rwhp with cai 93 octane and a boss manifold. a ton of mod shops have been throwing down outrageous #'s on low boost and stock internals
Storm7289 3 weeks ago
@punisher your question should be who has the money and who doesn't to do these mods anyway, to each his own, and to some cause they can't. If I wanted a gas guzzling 5.0 I would out and buy one, but I like to spend my money on superior german engineering, but that's my opinion and taste, and someone else may like american better
jpdrummer86 3 weeks ago
@jpdrummer86 23 mpg is bad then you are poor and can't afford a superior car.
erdaylike24se7en 3 weeks ago
I drive a 2007 e92 335i soon to be transformed all around
jpdrummer86 4 weeks ago
Add downpipes,full custom catback exhaust, and meth and you'll drop that american muscle on its ass, I know a guy who has that on his 335i by where I live with JB4 all boltons by stett performance ,clutch,flywheel he's pushing close to 600whp and and 600tq , bring that mustang vs this one and it wont even be a race. Dont get me wrong that mustang is fast, but you gotta be prepped for what you race
jpdrummer86 1 month ago
@jpdrummer86 just wondering, but what do you drive?
andyb0x 4 weeks ago
@jpdrummer86 600 is greater than 425, now isnt it? Get the 5.0 to 600 also, and see what happens...
Punisher7121 3 weeks ago
@jpdrummer86 no... no he doesn't have anywhere near 600whp. The highest recorded 335 with fbo+upgraded turbos+meth+nitrous has 550whp. I own one with JB4, Intake, Meth and I'm at a little over 400whp/430tq
JayG335i 3 weeks ago
@jpdrummer86 My mustang in this video. Im very familar with Stett Performance. In fact they did the suspension on my car about 2 weeks after this race.
Your comparing apples to oranges though, F/I against N/A. You do know there is many 5.0's with a simple F/I setup at 14 pounds running over 600HP stock internals. 5.0's has been out 2 years vs 6 years for 335i's. I hardly thinkthe surface has been scratched with what theses cars are capable of with a good f/i setup running 20PSI.
motocrosser614 3 weeks ago
American muscle for life
sergsrt8 2 months ago
this reminds me of the bout i had 2 nights ago lol
TITFCUKER 3 months ago
Now in this one the stang smokes em....
nismofury 4 months ago
@nismofury this is where the 100HP difference shows, but outta the hole, hes got me beat every time because i just cant hook.
motocrosser614 3 months ago in playlist motocrosser614's favorites
Gotta love American muscle
07stangking 5 months ago
Really wanted the 335i to win!
RUazhiaziam335i 5 months ago
@RUazhiaziam335i
So tired of them winning...Glad there is serious shit to beat it.
tampastunna 4 months ago