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  • Despite of that: Turkey was fighting on German Side in WW I. Remember their victory in the battle of the dardarnelles 1915 against the british fleet.

  • And absolutely funny is the totally old-fashioned Fokker Eindecker, which would have no chance against those FE.5A´s.

  • huhu

  • Funny how all the planes look like slightly modified Tigermoths :)

  • @ejlister The British flew modified Belgian S4B "Stampes". The German flew a Fokker E-1 "Eindekker" copy and a Finnish Valmet "Viima". In some scenes even a De Havilland "Tiger Moth" and a Bücker "Jungmann" can be seen. All but the Fokker were from the 30's. Many scenes are borrowed from "The Blue Max". Also models are used in some scenes.

  • Retards, it had nothing to do with any monarchy or religion :P It was a domino-esque event that had to do with old alliances

  • shut the fuck up if you think all Muslims are bad you don't no shit i no that because i am a Muslim

  • and if Germany had won 2nd world war and achieved world domination, Hitler would have eventually "culled " all

    Muslims too

    -be grateful you idiot

  • My younger brother once asked me "Were all German planes in the First World War red?"

  • all that killing just because some bastards as the Illuminati said go kill each other who also blew up the world trade centers & blamed It on Muslims 

  • @ortafunk Are you some sort of nut? or just stupid? or both?

  • @7777Scion both you mother fucker

  • @ortafunk what have MUSLIMS got to do with 1914-1918 war?

  • @darkmossie633 As far as I know Muslims had Nothing to do with 1914-1918 war, It had to do with fools that worshipped kings (see My video the king Song what a king worshipper Is) Instead of Yahweh called God. Also science proves September 11 2001 was cause by controlled demolition Google 911 Blueprint for truth.

  • @ortafunk You amaze me with your ability to believe shuch utter bullshit.

  • @uptheproverbialcreek I Am amazed that you believe your own bullshit 

  • Did anyone notice the Immelmann's Turn at 1:47 ??

  • @akshaybabug yes :D

  • @akshaybabug yes, nice one

  • Bücker Jungmeisters "dressed up" as SE5as, an in-between wars twin-seater German trainer (which name I just can´t recall right now), a DH.82 Tiger Moth and another Jungmeiter playing random German WWI fighters, images taken from the movie "Brown-vs-Richtoffen", pilots wearing cotton gloves (not visible here, but I remember that there were)... Certainly not my favourite WWI movie, I´m afraid...

  • @AlanMartinNala

    Stampe SV4s playing SE-5As, I think you'll find. The "German trainer" is a plane called a Viima (and not German).

  • Great fight scene. I see that 1983's High Road To China borrowed some footage from this film. Speaking of.. The S.E.5's look like a Stampe in disguise. Sound like them too. The Stampe is sweat looking plane, but definantly not WWI era. This still beats FlyBoys. That film (along with Pearl Harbor) relied too heavily on revisionist history, CGI, and were peppered too much with political correctness.

  • man i have to rent this movie..It looks awesome

  • Beware of the Hun in the sun, the bastards!

  • R.I.P to thoso who fall in "Great War"!

    Good part i like it...

  • they are so many like flies:)

  • i remember a dogfight in a movie like this when suddenly one of the planes guns jams and he tried with a hammer to unjammed it and the other pilot salute him knowing he cannot fire anymore...anyone who nows the movie name?

  • @xazoulini1 flyboys, terrible movie.....

  • @majoroadw0rks Much Better Than This Sick Movie No Gun Firing Smoke A Little Fire When The Gun Attack The Airplane Engine Sound Like Video Game And The Gun Sound Like A Toy Gun ._. And Bad Flying Tactic The PILOT DONT EVEN REACT WHEN Gun Attack Them !

  • @xazoulini1 Not sure of the movie but Robert Redford's character tells a similar story in The Great Waldo Pepper. Great movie by the way if you haven't seen it.

  • I like the part when they're fighting within visual range.

  • Great aerial sequences and lovely maneuvers

  • lol a fokker EIII fight against a SE5a :D really bad editing but great movie. in german the movie has the name: "Duell in den Wolken"

  • @maxwolf20594 actually, the german name of the film is "schlacht in den wolken" ;-)

  • @gruen4321 i know^^ i have this movie in german at home :) Because I´m german =D

  • @maxwolf20594 I thought it was amusing. I bet no EIII's were airworthy at that point, and would have been suicide in any event.

  • Fokker EIII 2:38 *laughs* That shouldn't be there it fell out of front line service by the end of 1916.

  • I would rather be in a S.E.5a ,a Bristol Fighter or the harder to control Sopwith Camel. since unlike some of the German aircraft they did not break up in a dive and where slightly faster.

  • @oddball24sco to each his own decision, it is wondeful we have the ability to express our liberties & choose as we wish.

  • I would not enjoy reloading that fucking p.o.s. vickers on my SE5a, I would rather be in an Albatros or Dr1.

  • @JRussoBuffaloNY the Lewis gun is on the top wing while the Vickers is the one mounted in front of the pilot. The Lewis could be brought down in front of the pilot to be re-loaded or to shoot from under neath an enemy aircraft.

  • @oddball24sco ok ok,I would certainly not enjoy re-loading the pos lewis gun upon my upper wing on the track mount. I would rather be in an early Albatros,Dr.1 or DVII. or maybe even an Eindecker with 3 MG14's.danke

  • @JRussoBuffaloNY The twin guns on the deck of the German designs were more efficient. It would seem the gun configuration of the SE5a was a glaring WTF. At that point, aircraft designers didn't know how their aircraft would be used.

  • @ahz123 I see, I understand how the lewis would be beneficial firing from below an opponent. As you know some pilots had their own preferences incorporated into their personal aeroplanes, I would have had 2 forward firing vickers, I think it would be difficult to direct a craft & then direct & guide a second object. with traverse,elevation turbulence etc, to be considered.

  • This movie is called "Aces High" and is just fantastic. It is very hard to come by these days. In my humble opinion (combined with "Hells Angels") this is the greatest WW I movie ever made. The silly American attempt at "FlyBoys" (mixture of Soap and Re-eductional Political Pseudo History) and the German "Red Barron" ("Soap Drama" focusing on the heroe's mental struggles, romance, dreaming etc.) pale in comparison. Excuse the poor 1970ties trick photography, planes etc. They did what they could

  • @Hundedox I'd actually prefer the Soap Drama over Aces high still. Plus the few air battles on The Red Baron were quite nice, if not a few wtf scenes in aircraft performance, it showed the air war in a scale not seen since Howard Hughes Hell's Angels. I give The Red Baron a lot of credit for that. Plus the mental struggle is the most important part when it comes to an air war in my opinion, life as a pilot was an emotional rollicoaster.

  • wow what a film.

  • I've heard this is a very good movie, but the continuity with the editing is really bad. Most of the planes are definitely post WW1- and there are scenes where the cockpit shots don't match the external view of the plane. I could also see some scenes plucked out of "The Blue Max". "It takes 20 years to make a man, it takes 20 seconds to destroy him".

  • Wow, that shot down plane is clearly not anything from WW1 era, they didnt even try. Its about 1930s mid.

  • Thank for this dog fights! i love them! ;] it's movie of my childhood :D i'm also so glad that i could see full scene of burning pilot. THANK A LOT. Salut from poland ;]

  • Do Vickers machine guns really sound like teletype machines... at least they used real planes here. I wonder if anyone will ever make a realistic WW1 dogfight movie, because everything I see... is just.. no.. fail.

  • The S.E. 5a came out relatively late in 1917 and I doubt it had ever met the Fokker Eindekker in the air.

  • One of Malcom McDowell's better movies.

  • @hasablad69 : Is the movie still available?

  • No, it's not readily available. It's a rarity.

  • Thanks for your reply. It is too bad as I would love to see the entire movie. God bless.

  • @hasablad69 what do yu mean "one of his better movies2/

    McDowell, or film should have had an OSCAR ,

    but for American bias for their OWN

    oscars should be stopped -they are a farce

  • ahh yeah thanks passie122

    lol i know what it is now

  • yes its the finnish bi-plane

  • @passie122 Thats an albatross.

  • It's a Finnish Valmet Viima. The prototype first flew in 1935

  • @YDDES

    It's not, it's a Focke Wulf 44 Stieglitz.

    The other planes involved were Stampe SV4s (playing the SE5as), Fokker Eindekker replica, Tiger Moths, Bucker Jungmeisters.

  • @DazDaMan

    Well, I have photographs of both Stieglitzes and Viimas as well as a copy of the movie. I also have an aviation magazine with an article written by the late stunt pilot Neil Williams, where he clearly states that the red "German" biplane was a Viima, and one of the planes he flew for the movie.

  • @YDDES

    Fair enough, I'm probably thinking back to a discussion I had with someone a long time back, and we DID think it was a Stieglitz then.

    However, I'm right on the rest of the planes. I've personally seen the Eindekker and one of the Stampes used (the Stampe also turned up in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade).

  • @DazDaMan

    OK. I must admit that the Stieglitz and the Viima are very like. In the article I mentioned Neil Williams told that the Eindekker was so dangerous to fly that they only used it in a few scenes. It is anyhow unlikely that the Eindekker and the SE5a ever met in a fight in real life. Many scenes in the movie were also borrowed from "The Blue Max".

  • @YDDES

    The Eindekker was built using Tiger Moth wings and a new-build fuselage, along with a Continental C90 engine. I've never seen it fly, though.

    Some of the scenes in the film were also taken from the film "Von Richthofen and Brown", which itself used some of the Fokker and SE5a replicas from "The Blue Max".

  • @DazDaMan

    Thanks! Interesting about the Eindekker, I didn't know that. It's correct that "Von Richthofen and Brown" used German planes from "The Blu Max", but the SE5a's in that movie were built for "Darling Lili". "The Blue Max" had only two, fullscale SE5a's, while "Darling Lli" and "Von Richthofen..." had six about 80% scale SE's based on the "Currie Wot". Those were also used in "Zeppelin".

  • @YDDES

    A guy I know on one of the aviation forums, his father was killed in a flying accident while filming one of those films. There was a well-documented flying accident while filming "Zeppelin" in which one of the SE5as collided with a helicopter.

  • @DazDaMan

    Thanks again! I've read about a fatal accident during that filming, but didn't know much about it.

  • @YDDES

    I've never seen the likes of "Von Richthofen and Brown" or "Darling Lili", but I've heard from those who have that neither film is all that good.

    "Aces High" is definitely my favourite. Infinitely better than "The Blue Max" or "Hell's Angels". It's a shame the 1938 version of "The Dawn Patrol" isn't available on DVD.

  • @DazDaMan

    I agree with You. "Aces High" was a much better movie than "The Blue Max". The latter is watchable mostly for the aircraft and flying scenes, as are "...Lili" and "Richthofen...". The newest WW1 flying movies are worthless because they use CGI instead of real aircraft.

  • @YDDES

    "Flyboys" would have been better if it hadn't been such a gung-ho war film. And yeah, much less CGI (WW1 biplanes don't fly like that!!!).

    "The Red Baron" wasn't much better, although some of the CGI was quite impressive. They did go out of their way to at least depict the aircraft accurately (not many times I've seen an Albatross D.III on film!)

  • @DazDaMan

    And "Flyboys" tried too hard to be "political correct". No afro-americans were in the Lafayette Escadrille in real life, for example. Sorry to say, that was unthinkable in those days.

    "The Red Baron" I haven't seen yet.

  • @YDDES

    Actually, there WAS a black pilot in the Lafayette Escadrille. I remember looking it up at the time. I'll find the link to the article.

    (Actually, it might not have been the Lafayette Escadrille, but there certainly was one who flew. )

  • @DazDaMan

    Interesting! I have seen a picture of the pilots in Lafayette Escadrille, and they were all caucasians. But there may have been changes. I also just read an article about black pilots in USA. Most flying schools didn't accept them as late as in the thirties, so a couple of them started a school for black flyers. It was first with the Tuskagee Airmen in WW2 that blacks were really accepted as military pilots. But not in mixed squadrons. Shamefull...

  • what was the red German aircraft sopposed to be, i mean the Stampe Sv4 didnt have a radial and niether did the tiger moth, can anybody help with the red aircraft?

  • @Ezza190

    wasn't it a Halberstadt?

  • great movie!

  • If anyone knows where I can get this movie could you please post it. Most I have spoken to seem to know nothing about it. Thanks for posting

  • This is a fantastic scene. No CGI, just planes and a camera. I love the exciting camera shots. Great film, I would like the see the whole thing. =)

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  • well why? whats wrong with a random message like "hi"

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    You were sending queer messages to me and my friends, so I blocked you. Now you're stalking me. I get humour out of it. XD

    I suggest you stop before everyone else blocks you too. ;)

  • yes im an adult i wiil hurt u

  • @wbsteerfilms:

    Yeah, right. You're probably some insecure fag who gets bullied at school. Nice try, but threatening me will just get you reported. ;)

  • sure true!

  • so what are you doing right now?

  • @RobertMProductions Hellooooo? come back to earth!

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  • Yawn.

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  • Brilliant film, seen loads of times.

    gives an insight into how bad things must have been, knowing that you'll never make it past a few flights.

    Peter Firth is fantastic

  • Just to get some insight, right at the end, who collides with the German plane? The older guy, or the young guy? Thank you. =)

  • hi

    young chap played by Peter Firth. he joined as his wing commander was his idol (and i think engaged to his sister?)

    as others have said, is not just the flying but the whole situation, and the hopelessnes of it. just too forgotten by the world now.

  • Oh, thank you.

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  • a lot of air action packed into this vid, but if you watch whole film, it is a masterpiece of human

    interaction, of young men, knowing they were on the brink of eternity

    no oscars awarded

    -usual American farce we are well used to

  • Anybody know or can tell me where I can get a this on DVD? Netflix doesn't have it. ..

  • There are still plenty of copies around on old VHF cassette videos, if you have that type of recorder though old fashioned now

    -superb film, that this video, although good cannot do justice too

    oscar winning perfomances by McDowell and Firth

    -not given of course!

  • sorry, forgot to mention MAGNIFICENT performance by

    CHRISTOPHER PLUMMER

    who also starred brilliantly in epic film "Battle of Britain"

    another oscar not given, and i write it in lower case as oscars are a complete American farce!

  • Typical Hollywood embellishment. Those planes didn't blow up with that kind of violence when they hit the ground. They weren't packed with Nitroglycerin.

    The war was brutal enough without adding to the Violence "It blowed up good, real good" Quotient for the Silver Screen.

  • Thanks for posting, this was a truly brilliant film. I remember on first seeing it, i was devastated by the shocking ending, which meant it worked. No happy endings in war, certainly not WW1.

  • youre right man, one of the best ww1 films,

    on par with "The Blue Max"

    both films had sad endings, but in that way they were uncomprimising on the truth about war

  • lol remember that part, S.E.5a vs Eindecker

  • Anyone notice how FlyBoys kind of copied this? I mean really, a guy on fire the gun on top, little red ribbons on the wings...

  • No, the allied planes r supposed to be SE5As, which were supposed to have a top gun. but i agree with u on the ribbon bit.

  • It's funny....I've seen a movie...Of a guy.....THat plays in THAT movie. xD

  • That's really scary to see that's guy's flaming body fall from so high and hit the ground so hard.

  • no parachutes allowed in RAF in ww1

    they thought pilots would just bail out

    without a fight

  • You mean RFC...

  • Royal Flying Corps

  • On the contrary.

    When casualties in fighter squadrons start climb in alarming rate RAF command actually ordered pilots to having parachutes but they usually ignored that order because of too tight cockpit.

    In apex of WW I air combat middle time of pilot life tap on the both sides was estimated at 10 days, but when new classes of planes start to arriving that count start to grow up on Alies side.

  • @limegr33nlime Perhaps based upon a real event. A renowned French pilot said he'd jump before he burned. True to his word, when his plane was hit and a flame was seen, he jumped to his death.

  • Do someone know what is the name of song which was singing during drunking in this movie?

  • the test pilot who did stunts in aces high he wrote a book too. neil williams

    died dec 78 in spain ferryin heinkel 111 bomber a rolls royce eingined one.

    tj

  • sorry so many post my letters keep going.

    my relative past this movie set in 75 /9 in his van.

    hertfordshire aerodrome staffen waldon

    tj

  • on a note filmin began sept 75.all...

    film relesed 76 15th /9/ i saw it twice boy am i old....

    the film here on tv in uk is cut too.

    tj

  • 2:57 did that kind of plane really exist? If it did it was probably first monoplane ever :D.

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  • Ok. That thing looks pretty flimsy :D

  • sorry wrong plane its a Eindeccker 1

    monoplane google '

    there is a jugimeister in film

    the real ww1 mostly they wouldnt break up as real things would do.viorlent manuvers

    tj

  • yes but only 1916 not 1917 as this films set in.

    tj

  • Most of the planes seemed Tiger Moths to me

  • yes and ex german ww2 planes trainers

    tj

  • the pilots were some stunt men and a well known RAF jet pilot who was killed in 1978 spain flying a heinkel 111

    tj

  • yes tigers were used too and ww2 german trainers.

    tj

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  • Something tells me the sound is nowhere near what those old rotary engines produced, sounds more like WWII prop planes or modern biplanes to me, they were more like lawn mower engines, look at the horsepower.

  • Yeah, real WWI plane engines sounded nothing like these...

    As a matter of a fact, these aren't even aircraft from WWI. They're trainer planes the British used, and it seems the film makers tried to pass them off as Se5s.

  • There is, however, one actual WWI replica plane in this scene. At 2:39, the monoplane shown is a German Fokker E.III.

  • well i can remember flying a camel so there

  • stop nit-pickin-this great film man

  • 4.16 to 4.23 is real footage I believe I saw it in a documentary of real black and white footage of WW1 air battles.

  • Sorry that I have to correct you but that`s no real footage. It's "only" a stuntman with fire-resistant cloth in the first part and a burning doll thrown out of a plane in the second. However it is a very very realistic scene.

  • Ah right. I saw it in a documentary, come to think of it it probably is fake. There's no way you'd film it in real life. My idiocy, sorry.

  • Well now, I wouldn't say that. There's a photo I have from 1915 that shows German Taubes and British Fe2bs fighting over the Somme. If you look closely in one of the pictures, you can see a Fe2b flipping over, and there's an object that, if you look closely enough at, you can tell is a man jumping from it.

  • no chutes, might impair a pilots nerve. watch the bloody movie.

  • The German air service began issuing parachutes to its pilots in mid 1918. The Entente refused to do so because they were afraid it would cause their pilots to abandon a perfectly good aircraft...

    This unfortunately cost the lives of many good pilots.

    German Henke parachutes were very simple, however. They were little more than bits of silk that were attached to the pilot by a strap around the shoulders. You threw it out of the cockpit, jumped, and hoped to god it would open.

  • yes they also had strap ons the redbaron wore one when he died.

    i have photo

    tj

  • I would rather be a pilot than I groundsoldier back then..

    At least you`l be away from all the mud and smell of death..

  • I fully agree on that.

  • Good film. Very tragic at the end. Would hated to have been a pilot back then with there being no parachutes.

  • Thank you for your comment.

    I respect WW1 pilots who didn't bring parachutes.

    The WW1 aces made lots of legends.

    However, actual dogfight must be tragic story.

  • Indeed, it was world war 1 that braught the:

    Rules of Engagement

    Air Craft Carriers etc

    New era.

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