Thanks for this video clip! I want to encourage YouTube viewers to attend film festivals where you get to hear some great Q & A sessions after a film screening, often times it will include the director, writer, perhaps the director of photography or the film's music composer. I'm curious to know in Hans knew Nino Rota.
Thank you Hans; as a musician your thoughts are so very inspiring.
At a talk he gave promoting his book Status Anxiety, Alain De Boyyon spoke of spending hours getting a sentence right.
This is why Driving Miss Daisy, especially the Driving sequence, brings me to tears. In an interview with Bruce Beresford by Andrew Ford, Bruce spoke glowingly of you, but also of his frustration that the studio wouldn't finance an orchestral recording of the score.
If they teamed up for scoring a film, it would be a total disaster to my ears. Never really liked Hans Zimmer. He did a good score on black rain, Hannibal and gladiator though. The rest is just the same.
Hans couldn't even be the "E" of Ennio! Hans is a real businessman for me, not a musician! A thief of composers! Pirates of Carribean's theme song is classic folksong and he even used the same record at the Gladiator if you listen carefully (at the first Germen war scene!)...
But listen the The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, what a creative nuevo country music! He even tried different types: bossa nova, classical, psychedelic, jazz, latin, romance and more!!! Immense music knowledge!
@PlayTheCold I think you are much more idiot, because Gladiator's and the Pirates' composers are the same person: Hans Zinger Burger KFC :) Search "Roman army in battle" (TheHistoryForum) and watch 6:35 and listen the music, also search "hans zimmer pirates of the caribbean" (ouzo29) and listen from 1:00 and compare it please!!!
@kingofskateop you said he "used the same record in gladiator". I know which bit you mean, a portion of the battle in gladiator has a similar melody to "He's a Pirate". It has different orchestration and style - pirates is syncopated and synthy - gladiator is a "battle waltz" Also, Hans Zimmer wrote a few tunes for Pirates to start it off but the film was scored by KLAUS BADELT. If you listen to Hans' original tune it's very different to gladiator, klaus changed it round to what it is now.
@PlayTheCold no I didn't say its the same record, as you said the melody is exactly the same, thats what I mentioned. For me Hans' works are not so creative. I guess Hans is repeating hisself, using the same chord progressions to take people to the catharsis and he uses the same melodies from history... Nothing new. But Ennio finds really simple but very strong melodies. If you listen J. S. Bach or Erik Satie, you'll undestand what I mean...
@PlayTheCold "he even used the same record at the Gladiator" those were your exact words. And the melody isn't exactly the same, you're obviously not listening carefully enough or have very little musical knowledge. And Hans doesn't use the same melodies from history, he's really re-invented film music with his completely original style of electronic/orchestral action music. He comes up with something new every time. listen to sherlock holmes or the dark knight.
I LOVE THIS GUY'S MUSIC. Hans Zimmer is, in my opinion, the greatest living composer EVER. Sod Harry Gregson Williams. Sod James Horner and sod James Newton Howard. Hans Zimmer takes the cake everytime in my books.
PS I don't hate any of the "SOD (insert composer)" I listed. Jk :)
ok,maybe he's a genius,but he only comes with the basic ideas,then it's the arrangers and orchestrators who score it for orchestra. I don't know.....I thought that he could devise the soundtrack as I hear it on CD. I hear the Gladiator soundtrack,but then I learn that it has been scored by professional arrangers. I think that this adds a lot.....and I don't understand why musicians like Zimmer take all the credit? I mean,he was a pop keyboardist. Nothing against that,but how does it adds up?
Its called short scoring. Look it up. Brahms was a pub pianist, Berlioz was a folk guitarist, Holst was a teacher. He takes all the credit because he is the COMPOSER.
it's just like comparing the director of a movie to all the small technical jobs like costume designer, casting person, etc that are important, hard, and necessary, but all add up to the director's vision. without the leader, the people wouldn't be working to create his idea
he doesnt really take all the credit, he often lists all of the additional composers and orchestrator/arrangers. he even gave composing credit to a sound designer
Who ever took this video, this is great to see him, thinking, talking about his work... it kind of gives a clue on how music people put music on paper (2:48 mn)... great
How amusing it is to watch you ignorant fools squabble. Back and forth. Your word's full of sound and fury. You really have no basis for anything you say.
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I never said Hans Zimmer was good or bad. What you think of Uwe Bolls is another matter. However, Hans Zimmer is the musical equivalent of Uwe Bolls. Or pubes on a blowup doll. Decorative, but not serving a real purpose.
You are an ignoramus. How about you do some sociographic study on Zimmer's influence on artists and composers before you start to say shit like that. Zimmer has the single most influence on film composers in history. JOHN WILLIAMS HIMSELF said that in an interview. DO RESEARCH on topics, just because its your view, doesn't mean its right.
not serving a real purpose? I BEG to differ. Hans is more concerned with PSYCHOLOGY with his music than anything else. And that is the purpose of film music. As much as i respect composers with great musicology, psychology is still the first place of business in film music. Listen the Dark Knight. I hate people who criticize film music aesthetics when in only actual fact they're obviously only interested in listening to its surface.
And as for revoltz7, he is one of the most articulate YouTuber's i've come across! Whether we've traded insults or advice, it's always been enjoyable to discuss music with him, and to hear his opinions. He is far from ignorant.
"Perhaps you are just too inexperienced to realise what film makers want and how Zimmer supplies."
Ok, but this has nothing to do with music. A director once asked Randy Newman if he could move the flutes up half an octave! Most director's aren't music aficionados. I don't see why HZ Shouldn't compose something as amazing as Berg for example. Or as you said, Bartok or Bernstein. If he doesn't utilize any compositional technique, then I'm sorry but its perfectly PC to criticize him!
Oh and people who know nothing about music, are not necassarily unmusical. Their views are important but should not be taken to extreme degrees. Film music should not be the opiate of the masses. We already have pop and rock, why the hell should film music suffer so that just about everybody 'gets it'. The problem is, that the only people who don't 'get it' are the composers themselves! Why should we be alienated? We ARE music!
2. "Film music should not be the opiate of the masses"...should it be the privilege of a few then? and what makes you think you belong to that select group?
3. if you "don't get it" then in my opinion it is a loss for you, it is rather a handicap "not getting it" don't you think?
Dissershock, everybody uses the objective criteria I spoke about to decide whether they like something or not. Voice leading for example: if you hear something that is completely out of place, like a randomly placed pointless dissonant chord, it will influence your opinion.
Zimmer isn't breaking the rules. He infact sticks to them by the book, but that's whats wrong with him. He is an innovator of mediocrity and I sincerely mean it. His work is so very painfully average.
1. unmusical, is somebody or something that doesn't have a grasp of basic tonal harmony .
2. Film music traditionally appeals to people in only its thematic moments, because those are the only times that people actually listen to the music. It should appeal to people who appreciate high artistry throughout.
3. I get your opinion, but I disagree
4. I am compose therefore I am (To paraphrase) Ok I'm trying to say I'm some musically infallible God of music, but Zimmer doesn't cater for my needs.
Oh in refrence to point 2, you can remember the theme from Conan the Barbarian (I looked at your favourites) but do you really think that the entire movie soundtrack consisted entirely of catchy, quick and easy material? Can basic harmony and formulaic music convey an entire movie! No it can't! Listen to the Star Wars soundtrack, only a about 1/50th of it is thematic, catchy material. It is infinitesimally more artistic than anything that Zimmer could conjure up.
well actually, "the search" is what i consider the best track in conan's soundtrack, the main theme was wonderful as well... so i dont really understand your statement "but do you really think that the entire movie soundtrack consisted entirely of catchy, quick and easy material"?! ... i loved every piece of that soundtrack... calling the main theme "catchy, quick and easy material" is far from the truth, making me wonder whether you actually are a composer?
No, sorry I probably used the wrong words to describe that piece. I just wanted to get across the point that there has to be more than just thematic material.
Thematic as in, music consisting of a the main theme, or another theme.
Eg
/watch?v=AiVLsV9M97I
Also watch out for thematic material at 1:00. Now listen to how much more accomplished Williams music is. Oh and if you don't like the non-thematic parts (the more abstract bits) don't think that there is anything wrong with you, you just need to get used to hearing more difficult harmonies before you can appreciate them.
i like the star wars soundtrack very much, and it fits the movie very well (that's what soundtracks are for), i can appreciate the "abstract bits", which i really don't find abstract at all. watch the scene "the search" and listen to its music... it's an art painting in motion...or the incorporation of chains being broken during "the atlantean sword" and if you don't "get it" don't think that there is anything wrong with you, it's just a shame you can't enjoy it.
lol, you don't even read my relplies fully. like i said before "well actually, "the search" is what i consider the best track in conan's soundtrack"... that's conan the barbarian, by basil poledouris.
i think you are not familiar with basil's work on conan the barbarian... i should slap you for that one! i recommend downloading that soundtrack, or better yet, see the movie.
I'll look for that piece on youtube for you, probably it has been removed.
But cheevo, if you honestly think that this is genius, you seriously need to go and listen to some more complicated music. I'm not trying to force you, but I think its well worth your time. I think the word genius gets bandied about too much these days.
to me,music like this isnt about it's complexity,but how it touches or affects so many and thats what hans zimmer's music does as far as i'm concerned.
Yes but you are wrong there. Eminem and 50 Cent touch more people today (lol) than Prokofiev. Does that mean Eminem and 50 Cent are more talented?
Popularity is not a measure of talent.
Complexity is not the only factor we have to consider, I'm not suggesting that if you deliberately make something rediculously complicated you will always get good results. There has to be a balance.
Zimmer's music doesn't touch me, it deeply aggrivates me.
i think people who know nothing about music (like me) should be the ones to judge who is betterc, being unbiased and such. it's all about emotion and the combination with the images of the movie they are composed for. Zimmer and Ennio are both great in their own way. who cares who is more original, if i'm watching a movie and the music suites it, and it captures my imagination, then it's mission accomplished... no matter who composed it. be glad that we can enjoy their work in our life time
In other words, innocent ears have more of a right to judge than other musicians/composers? Well I agree that music is there to enjoy, but there are so many other talented composers out there who could be doing a better job than he is. This is based on objective criteria. I'm not saying that nobody should enjoy it, but the fact that he is a weak composer is true.
objective criteria? ...there are no such things as "objective criteria" in the arts, that's what (fortunately) differentiate it from science. and if there were such criteria, i would like to hear some of you?
luckily, it's all about emotion i think :D
i personally find Basil Poledouris' movie theme of conan the barbarian the best ever, real raw, and well, it reminds me also of my youth :D
Firstly, thank you for the reply. secondly thanks for not calling me an ignorant idiot :P
Maybe that's where my thinking is wrong then(?). I judge everything that way. There are right and wrongs, good and evil's etc. In Hans Zimmer's music I just find a lack of invention in harmonic and melodic material.
well that just makes you an ignorant idiot! (just kidding). people who aren't intelligent enough to express themselves tend to use those words. i am more of a movies fan, and when i watch one, i watch it "professionally" and that's too bad, takes a lot out of the fun. i hope i was that 9 year old kid again who couldn't sleep for a week after seeing a horror movie without even noticing the bad special effects. what you think of this one? watch?v=sHDmXtW9Yx0
Nobody ever complained that movie music was too good in the 'Goldenage'. This is a farcry from today, where anybody who takes the time to 'musically enrich' themselves will be of the opinion that Zimmer's music is too bad!
There are right and wrongs in music! If this was not recognised, Wagner would not have written such fantastic music!
The job of a composer is to descriminate between good and bad, and Zimmer is terrible at doing this!
Perhaps you are just too inexperienced to realise what film makers want and how Zimmer supplies. Films like Rain Man, Driving Miss Daisy, Matchstick Men, Hannibal and Gladiator (just to name a few of Zim's work) are all extremely different and all provide an atmosphere that the directors of those films felt invaluable to convey a message wrapped in the fabric of the film. Seriously, the experts have spoken, so you disagree, not a big deal. But realise the medium in what you are talking about.
when all "the experts" say that one composer's music is beautifil... and that music doesn't touch me, then that's the end of that story. good and bad music are subjective terms, 1 composer can make good ad bad music... labelling one composer as being "bad" is kinda narrow minded i think. As for zimmer: his music, in my opinion, gives movies that extra "feeling" which makes watching them for me a great experience
Hey you're entitled to your opinion, but he doesn't meet the criteria needed to be a good composer in my opinion.
Music isn't really that subjective. We can say Wagner used more complex harmony than Zimmer, wrote better melodies (although that is subjective), used more complicated textures, used better orchestration etc. The good and bad of music have built up over the last 400 years. If we admit that music is subjective we destroy the last 400 years of music!
i'm entitled to my opinion? thanks.what criteria are those?
the quality of music, does not depend on its complexity...
i would like to hear some of your objective criteria, which make a composer good. when one wou ld obey such criteria... well, everyone would become a good composer
The point is everyone isn't able to obey the rules of being a good composer. Of course there are rules (or "objective criteria"), why do you think composers have been taught them for centuries? Before I began composing music I thought Hans Zimmer was amazing, but compared to the likes of Wagner, Williams, Tschaikovsky, etc he isn't.
The quality of music does depend on its complexity to an extent. Of course complexity is not the only important criterion, but its one of them.
Hi disser, I stated some of the objective criteria earlier. Of course you can only take objectivity upto a point; a good example, is that the Planet's suite by Holst is objectively better than the Gladiator score, that tries to rip it off. However when trying to argue which piece is the best movement from the Planet's suite, it is impossible.
Possible objective criteria: Orchestration, melodic inventiveness, texture (ie how many things are going on at once) (cont)
cont - chord progressions, voice leading (ie if you listen very closely to every instrumental part, does everything flow from one note to the other properly) harmonic language (ie what kind of harmonies are predominant - eg impressionistic, jazz, or zimmer pop)
Of course everyone uses objective criteria to assess music, but they do it subconsciously.
These criteria have built up over the last 400 years, and Zimmer is not able to conform to them.
I love the music for Rogue Spear (2nd Rainbow 6 game to be released) It's actually similar to Zimmer, although in my opinion a lot better. However, I readily accept that it is not as good as a piece of real orchestral music. I may even enjoy it more than Mozart's Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, but that doesn't make it better.
"Of course everyone uses objective criteria to assess music, but they do it subconsciously."... this is very true, everyone has a primordial feel for music, which is NOT objective, since everyone has a different feeling for music. limiting this primordial feeling by "objective" rules is in my opinion the worst thing you can do. the rules you are mentioning being made up for the last 400 years,... well, music exists since about the beginning of time. as for all the arts, people who DO ...
people who DO violate those rules are considered the innovators. why aren't painters who broke "the rules" appreciated in their time, but only later on when they died?..well, cause like man... the arts are dynamic, and NOT limited by rules. my musical sense is led by my feeling and what physical reaction that music brings to me and i will not let it be limited by "chord progressions", "voice leading", "harmonic language"... which you consider being objective. as for FILM music...
as for FILM music... that is a whole other dimension, in which you have to consider many different things. does the music capture the thoughts of the director? does it draw the watcher into the movie? etc etc etc... even the simple whistles in ennio's music by Alessandro Alessandroni are on their own maybe not impressive at all... but in particular scenes in the movie they have a huge impact.
I think Zimmer is a moderately good composer, but honestly I don't think anything he has composed will survive the test of time. in the other hand, Ennio Morricone is the greatest film composer alive. my favorites are him, Bernard Herrmann and Jerry Goldsmith.
it's funny to see alot of these pseudo-artists and composers use the Fibonacci sequence, thinking it's the ideal, universally perfect equation of how to write a piece or paint a masterpiece. They seem to assume it as the thing to run to and exploit just as it would be ridiculous to see the whole world search for and exploit the fountain of youth, and then rat-race to be supermodels.
Though, no doubt, Fibonacci sequencing results in interesting outcomes.
Herman,If you can do better then why aren't you, and why do we not hear your name being mentioned as the next John Williams, or Mozarts successor? don't hate on him, better him!
I don't know of any Zimmer pieces that follow that chord progression. surely The Ring OST can't remind you of that. Zimmer's music is awesome, maybe a little lacking in creativity sometimes, but exciting nonetheless.
Jealous and insecure you are. You are a failure, a hack, and have no talent. So naturally, you get pissy with those who are achieving, well recieved, well respected and extraordinarily talented. He has scored brilliant scores and melodies. He has won oscars, you havent. he is successful, you arent. he lives better than you. you probably couldnt even name one note from Cm7 chord.
doesnt matter what your naive, ignorant reason may be, you are the loser, he is the winner. Like someone who has accomplished gives a hoot about if some nobody likes him or not. Nice job googling the chord. ;-) It only took you a week.
I'm ignorant because I hate Zimmer? Give me a fuckin' break! I saw your comment 2 days ago, I replied. I don't know why you think it took me a week. Seen as your so sure that I am naive and ignorant, I could make the same baseless assumptions about you, but I'm really above that!
No, you cant make assumptions, as you have no basis to base fundamental conclusion. (perhaps you need to educate yourself on the meaning of assume)...you are only best at presumptuous disposition, which reveals your lack of experienc, naivete and ignorance. Nice how you easily resort to belligerence, proving you have no argument nor point...as children cornered usually do. So you arent above anything...you are actually beneath me, as are your weak family.
If you think Zimmer is a good composer, then I'm sorry but it's you who is lacking a good education. Is it so inconceivable to you that someone can study something, decide it is bulls&*@ and then move on? You are the one making assumptions, not me. Zimmer's music is trite, mediocre and half-assed. One listen to a Stravinsky piece, and you can hear what an ant Zimmer is in comparison to such a master.
Give me one example of when I was belligerent, too. It'll be good for a laugh.
your lame adolescent name calling and bullshit is belligerent or are you too stupid to realise anything you actually post? Stravinsky? you arent knowledgable about music kid...you are too conventional and trite. you are too limited and intolerant to even understand, kiddo. You are only 18, naive, inexperienced and havent yet begun to live yet, you have no credibility kid. Plus you are in the UK...you people are behind in music performance and education. get a grip and a life loser.
It seems that you are the one with no life, sir. I'm 18, yes. What's YOUR excuse for posting nasty, insulting comments? I've kept my cool all the way through this discussion and never resorted to personally insulting/attacking you. It's not just the UK that is lacking in music education, it's in America too. At least I have self-discipline when it comes to my practicing, just because I'm British does not mean I can't do that. Or does it? You are the one with all the knowledge in insight.
Is that why American music students and the level of musicianship is recognised world wide as the best, most comprehensive? Get a clue you 18 yr old liar and hypocrite. I have no time for weak, insignificant, naive, inexperienced morons. Get a life you toothless brit. you waste time bitching about your jealousies because others achieve you do nothing.
So far you have come up with no valid or objective evidence that Zimmer is a great composer. Either do that or don't reply to my comments."Too conventional and trite"? Stravinsky broke all the rules in his great music, it was far from conventional or trite. Rite of Spring caused a riot when it was first performed. Not the kind of reaction a conventional piece of music has. Ultimately, I'm only interested in discussing music, not trading insults.
Stravinsky broke rules? LMFAO. you are too conventional, kid. Bartok broke rules, Leo Bernstein broke rules....get with it kid, you know nothing you talk of. you are only 18....LOL, a kiddie.
Jess, somebody who calls someone a toothless Brit shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on anything. Because you are obviously a callous, pre-judgemental fool.
Blackpage is completely right, Zimmer is mediocre at best, and that is taking it to the extreme.
Jealousy has nothing to do with it. I admit I am slightly jealous of John Williams and I am jealous of Zimmer's fame. However, I think Williams' is a great composer, whilst Zimmer is a laughable, if not irritating, joke
You are naive and inexperienced. As anyone, regardless of commentary, have an opinion, then again, from your communist/fascist background, I see where you would like to keep others quiet.Sorry, kid, doesnt work that way...even when someone disagrees with you and is 100% correct, someone of your obvious emotional disorders and human frailty DO NOT get the authority to tell others what and what not they can do. You are very inexperienced in music, but that is another topic.
Morricone and Zimmer are the best of the their time.
I prefer a little more of Zmmer because his scores for The Last Samurai, King Arthur, The Rock and Gladiator are the strongest music for war I ever heard.
But then again... Morricone has songs like Chi Mai or The good The Bad And The Ugly or Once Upon A Time In The West wich are very beautiful.
If you want powerful and beautiful listen to Zimmer, if you want soft an beautiful listen to Morricone.
Mr. Morricone is a God. I respect Zimmer and he is good, but will never be as good as Ennio, nor anyone else will be. Zimmer, I believe, even copied some of Morricone's pieces from The Mission for The Lion King soundtrack. There are some really striking similarities, and Zimmer has been known to do this "borrowing" before.
Yupz. I agree. I love Zimmer's work. Tends to be grand in scope and he's very emotive, but occasionally some similarities do emerge as far as "themes" are concerned...
The Black Rain Soundtrack's got a score that sounds very similar to Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence by Ryuichi Sakamoto.
Ennio is old school and on Gabriel's oboe alone wins between the two. Although music is never a pissing contest. :)
Notice how he admits at the end that 'the more he writes, the more he knows, he knows nothing (...) because it's the same notes always'. It's true, unfortunately. He keeps copying himself and others (motifs and themes from Mozart's Requiem are in almost every movie of his)..
That's interesting about what Hans said about how he used to go to the piano and sit a improvise and that now he has intention before he starts to write something. I write music and I improvise alot of my ideas, so I guess I am at the beginning stages and will take his piece of advice and wok on having intention.
I love YouTube for being able to see things like this from my bedroom.
Hanz Zimmer is very good and is a great compositor of his generation
But Morricone is simply the best artist upon all the music artists of all times. (upon every singers or compositors). His music is at the same time beautiful and strong and gives a very original atmosphere that perfectly fits each film.
Is this really about music? Can't we appreciate different kind of music, different kind of personal style? I do really like it that both Hans Zimmer & Ennio Morriconne have different kind of approaches. To hear all kind of influences from their culture and from others that influenced them, make it a great joy for me to listen to them!
Funny that you use God in your argument.. if you ever read His book the bible, you would get to know that He loves all mankind and that He asks us to love Him and our neighbours, which includes all different nationalities. Get to know God and learn to love.
If I could say what I truly think of Herr Zimmer I would be sued for libel. Auf wiedersehn.
jslasher1 1 month ago
Hah he looks like Greg Graffin :)
dankabal 1 month ago
Zimmer is an amazing composer but Ennio.. Ennio is from another planet.
luigibattista10 3 months ago 2
Zimmer sucks compared to Morricone.
KleWdSide 4 months ago
@KleWdSide Poor kid
leviathancom 3 months ago
Two greatest soundtrack composers of all time. Morricone is the best for me though.
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bassamaik 7 months ago
Zimmer e grande, ma Ennio Morricone e inarrivabile per chiunque. la storia musicale parla, ma sopratutto si sente.
Giuseppee62 8 months ago 3
Did they have an argument or something?
thehumanperson 8 months ago
Thanks for this video clip! I want to encourage YouTube viewers to attend film festivals where you get to hear some great Q & A sessions after a film screening, often times it will include the director, writer, perhaps the director of photography or the film's music composer. I'm curious to know in Hans knew Nino Rota.
HM, Highway Cinema
HunterMann 9 months ago
germans show humanity what your ears are used for!
infidel94 1 year ago
I'd think Ennio would prefer speaking Italian over Spanish;)
TheOpinionater 1 year ago 5
I am not german but they are virtuosos in watever it is they do....
raymondbeginyan 1 year ago 5
@raymondbeginyan great to hear that... but not everyone is a hans zimmer...
Mainboarder1 9 months ago
The da Vinci score was superb
Gandalfgrey93 1 year ago 2
How ironic that the Germans are good at so many things..
artwel123 1 year ago 5
@artwel123 yeah... Hitler, for example, was a good painter... ^^
e3xdubb 1 year ago
@e3xdubb Hitler wasn't German though....
Gangstaz4LIFE 1 year ago 2
@e3xdubb And, of course, he was a really, really bad painter.
dv20030325 11 months ago
Thank you Hans; as a musician your thoughts are so very inspiring.
At a talk he gave promoting his book Status Anxiety, Alain De Boyyon spoke of spending hours getting a sentence right.
This is why Driving Miss Daisy, especially the Driving sequence, brings me to tears. In an interview with Bruce Beresford by Andrew Ford, Bruce spoke glowingly of you, but also of his frustration that the studio wouldn't finance an orchestral recording of the score.
Beethoven I'm sure is a fan of yours.
Stevieraylittlewing 1 year ago
If they teamed up for scoring a film, it would be a total disaster to my ears. Never really liked Hans Zimmer. He did a good score on black rain, Hannibal and gladiator though. The rest is just the same.
Marcofrydshou 1 year ago
great composer but stupid talker... "if i speak spanish..." spanish for what? if morricone is italian? LOLOLOL
xpertvisions 1 year ago
hans zimmer is great i agree, but i love both ennio morricone and bernard herrman slightly more.
TheLoneShooter 1 year ago
Check out my rendition of He's a Pirate!!!
titanicpiano14 1 year ago
Is anyone else hearing Alan Rickman in his voice? Or is it just me?
MesaJones15 1 year ago
I'm glad he gave credit to Beethoven.
peppersax 1 year ago
Hans Zimmer is Ego. It's so dissapointing seeing artists like that. It's disgusting.
wilsondylanmccartney 1 year ago
Hes probarly more rich then bill gates
InfiniteMultiMedia 1 year ago
Wow. These two are the greatest film composers of all time.
firelione 2 years ago 3
Hans couldn't even be the "E" of Ennio! Hans is a real businessman for me, not a musician! A thief of composers! Pirates of Carribean's theme song is classic folksong and he even used the same record at the Gladiator if you listen carefully (at the first Germen war scene!)...
But listen the The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, what a creative nuevo country music! He even tried different types: bossa nova, classical, psychedelic, jazz, latin, romance and more!!! Immense music knowledge!
kingofskateop 2 years ago
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guusskaamluus 2 years ago
idiot, gladiator came out years before pirates, they're both brilliant composers
PlayTheCold 1 year ago
@PlayTheCold I think you are much more idiot, because Gladiator's and the Pirates' composers are the same person: Hans Zinger Burger KFC :) Search "Roman army in battle" (TheHistoryForum) and watch 6:35 and listen the music, also search "hans zimmer pirates of the caribbean" (ouzo29) and listen from 1:00 and compare it please!!!
kingofskateop 1 year ago
@kingofskateop you said he "used the same record in gladiator". I know which bit you mean, a portion of the battle in gladiator has a similar melody to "He's a Pirate". It has different orchestration and style - pirates is syncopated and synthy - gladiator is a "battle waltz" Also, Hans Zimmer wrote a few tunes for Pirates to start it off but the film was scored by KLAUS BADELT. If you listen to Hans' original tune it's very different to gladiator, klaus changed it round to what it is now.
PlayTheCold 1 year ago
@PlayTheCold no I didn't say its the same record, as you said the melody is exactly the same, thats what I mentioned. For me Hans' works are not so creative. I guess Hans is repeating hisself, using the same chord progressions to take people to the catharsis and he uses the same melodies from history... Nothing new. But Ennio finds really simple but very strong melodies. If you listen J. S. Bach or Erik Satie, you'll undestand what I mean...
kingofskateop 1 year ago
@PlayTheCold "he even used the same record at the Gladiator" those were your exact words. And the melody isn't exactly the same, you're obviously not listening carefully enough or have very little musical knowledge. And Hans doesn't use the same melodies from history, he's really re-invented film music with his completely original style of electronic/orchestral action music. He comes up with something new every time. listen to sherlock holmes or the dark knight.
PlayTheCold 1 year ago
@PlayTheCold Well, he used sounds from David Stocco's experibass and that's new too a Stocco creation though. I love Hans though, one of my faves.
Rolungo 1 year ago
If I could speak Spanish? Isn't Ennio Italian lol?? Woops. Still Hans and Ennio are my 2 favorite composers.
Maxfield93 2 years ago 8
Haha, what a dumbass!
0BatGirl0 2 years ago
@Maxfield93
Ennio is Italian, but Hans said it because that interview was in Madrid, Spain.
;-)
pacobecquer 1 year ago
@pacobecquer
ooooh, I see. What is he discussing by the way? Did someone 'slam' his music or something...so confused.
Why does he say ' Ennio and I are friends' did someone imply they weren't?
:P
Maxfield93 1 year ago
google:Erős Cecilia emlékére
tomatyu 2 years ago
If they teamed up for the score of some movie, it would be a total eargasm
RarewareLover 2 years ago 56
I think I'd die from cardiac arrest over so much awesomeness!
Sorayn 2 years ago 14
@RarewareLover maybe in the next Tarantino-Movie ;-)
Ataraxia01 6 months ago
Glad to hear that those two masterminds of music are friends!
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I LOVE THIS GUY'S MUSIC. Hans Zimmer is, in my opinion, the greatest living composer EVER. Sod Harry Gregson Williams. Sod James Horner and sod James Newton Howard. Hans Zimmer takes the cake everytime in my books.
PS I don't hate any of the "SOD (insert composer)" I listed. Jk :)
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Espio360 2 years ago
ok,maybe he's a genius,but he only comes with the basic ideas,then it's the arrangers and orchestrators who score it for orchestra. I don't know.....I thought that he could devise the soundtrack as I hear it on CD. I hear the Gladiator soundtrack,but then I learn that it has been scored by professional arrangers. I think that this adds a lot.....and I don't understand why musicians like Zimmer take all the credit? I mean,he was a pop keyboardist. Nothing against that,but how does it adds up?
luigiperso 2 years ago 2
Its called short scoring. Look it up. Brahms was a pub pianist, Berlioz was a folk guitarist, Holst was a teacher. He takes all the credit because he is the COMPOSER.
Pete12b 2 years ago 3
it's just like comparing the director of a movie to all the small technical jobs like costume designer, casting person, etc that are important, hard, and necessary, but all add up to the director's vision. without the leader, the people wouldn't be working to create his idea
adult09 2 years ago 5
he doesnt really take all the credit, he often lists all of the additional composers and orchestrator/arrangers. he even gave composing credit to a sound designer
andreagiuseppe 2 years ago
I also went to Bonn to see Beethoven's house. It was a mind-blowing experience for sure! Hans Zimmer rocks!!
HollywoodSuite 3 years ago 7
Hans is a great composer! he has a brilliant mind!
flushitdown 3 years ago 5
Ennio is on top together with Vangelis period...
DutchRebelP 3 years ago 2
I didn't undrestand what he said exsacly about morricone...
lavanguardiadelsol 3 years ago
IM FROM BONN
faridc93 3 years ago 4
he's a brilliant composer. i feel every note that he put in his compositions. amazing
dmnxCGi 3 years ago 5
Hans Zimmer is the best composer on the world.I don's have other comments.
WlakyKing 3 years ago 6
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all his work sounds the same....and harry greegson williams rips him of as well....good stuff though
brrygilbertyahoo 3 years ago
zimmer is a great composer and one of my favourite soundtracks is the red thin line.
drchepa 3 years ago 7
Hans Zimmer is so my idol...!!!:D
Great Composer.
DarkbreezeTMD 3 years ago 3
I hope to work with him someday, maybe even on the next Batman movie.
pianomasterChris 3 years ago
Who ever took this video, this is great to see him, thinking, talking about his work... it kind of gives a clue on how music people put music on paper (2:48 mn)... great
wbprods 3 years ago
How amusing it is to watch you ignorant fools squabble. Back and forth. Your word's full of sound and fury. You really have no basis for anything you say.
TromboneConductor767 3 years ago
Aww damn he was in my hometown of Bonn to see Beethoven's house?
JayFmOnline 3 years ago 3
hes german
sebbell 3 years ago 3
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Hans Zimmer = The Uwe Bolls of film music.
noctus 3 years ago
While I enjoy the views of everyone in the world, PLEASE, do not get on the internets while you are high on crack!
Zimmer is a kick-ass artist!
Uwe Boll is the anti-christ of film-makers
Shaggy72 3 years ago 5
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I never said Hans Zimmer was good or bad. What you think of Uwe Bolls is another matter. However, Hans Zimmer is the musical equivalent of Uwe Bolls. Or pubes on a blowup doll. Decorative, but not serving a real purpose.
noctus 3 years ago
You are an ignoramus. How about you do some sociographic study on Zimmer's influence on artists and composers before you start to say shit like that. Zimmer has the single most influence on film composers in history. JOHN WILLIAMS HIMSELF said that in an interview. DO RESEARCH on topics, just because its your view, doesn't mean its right.
PianoFilmscore 3 years ago 8
not serving a real purpose? I BEG to differ. Hans is more concerned with PSYCHOLOGY with his music than anything else. And that is the purpose of film music. As much as i respect composers with great musicology, psychology is still the first place of business in film music. Listen the Dark Knight. I hate people who criticize film music aesthetics when in only actual fact they're obviously only interested in listening to its surface.
TheArthen 3 years ago 3
Hans Zimmer, Master and Commander.
nedved411 3 years ago
Hans is the boss !!
thegeneralbeats 3 years ago 2
Oh yes he is!:D
DarkbreezeTMD 3 years ago
this man is genius
anticliche321 3 years ago 4
translate pleaaaaase!!! Traducete in italiano, mi interessa tantissimo! Hans è il mio compositore preferito... (Pearl Harbor!!!) XDDD
asdfrewq987 3 years ago
And as for revoltz7, he is one of the most articulate YouTuber's i've come across! Whether we've traded insults or advice, it's always been enjoyable to discuss music with him, and to hear his opinions. He is far from ignorant.
To Jess, with the superiority complex!
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
"Perhaps you are just too inexperienced to realise what film makers want and how Zimmer supplies."
Ok, but this has nothing to do with music. A director once asked Randy Newman if he could move the flutes up half an octave! Most director's aren't music aficionados. I don't see why HZ Shouldn't compose something as amazing as Berg for example. Or as you said, Bartok or Bernstein. If he doesn't utilize any compositional technique, then I'm sorry but its perfectly PC to criticize him!
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
Oh and people who know nothing about music, are not necassarily unmusical. Their views are important but should not be taken to extreme degrees. Film music should not be the opiate of the masses. We already have pop and rock, why the hell should film music suffer so that just about everybody 'gets it'. The problem is, that the only people who don't 'get it' are the composers themselves! Why should we be alienated? We ARE music!
revoltz7 3 years ago
1. whats your definition of "unmusical"?
2. "Film music should not be the opiate of the masses"...should it be the privilege of a few then? and what makes you think you belong to that select group?
3. if you "don't get it" then in my opinion it is a loss for you, it is rather a handicap "not getting it" don't you think?
4. you AREN't music.
dissershock 3 years ago 3
Dissershock, everybody uses the objective criteria I spoke about to decide whether they like something or not. Voice leading for example: if you hear something that is completely out of place, like a randomly placed pointless dissonant chord, it will influence your opinion.
Zimmer isn't breaking the rules. He infact sticks to them by the book, but that's whats wrong with him. He is an innovator of mediocrity and I sincerely mean it. His work is so very painfully average.
revoltz7 3 years ago
1. unmusical, is somebody or something that doesn't have a grasp of basic tonal harmony .
2. Film music traditionally appeals to people in only its thematic moments, because those are the only times that people actually listen to the music. It should appeal to people who appreciate high artistry throughout.
3. I get your opinion, but I disagree
4. I am compose therefore I am (To paraphrase) Ok I'm trying to say I'm some musically infallible God of music, but Zimmer doesn't cater for my needs.
revoltz7 3 years ago
Oh in refrence to point 2, you can remember the theme from Conan the Barbarian (I looked at your favourites) but do you really think that the entire movie soundtrack consisted entirely of catchy, quick and easy material? Can basic harmony and formulaic music convey an entire movie! No it can't! Listen to the Star Wars soundtrack, only a about 1/50th of it is thematic, catchy material. It is infinitesimally more artistic than anything that Zimmer could conjure up.
revoltz7 3 years ago
well actually, "the search" is what i consider the best track in conan's soundtrack, the main theme was wonderful as well... so i dont really understand your statement "but do you really think that the entire movie soundtrack consisted entirely of catchy, quick and easy material"?! ... i loved every piece of that soundtrack... calling the main theme "catchy, quick and easy material" is far from the truth, making me wonder whether you actually are a composer?
dissershock 3 years ago 2
No, sorry I probably used the wrong words to describe that piece. I just wanted to get across the point that there has to be more than just thematic material.
revoltz7 3 years ago
thematic as in the "main theme" or as in "made for one movie"?
dissershock 3 years ago
Thematic as in, music consisting of a the main theme, or another theme.
Eg
/watch?v=AiVLsV9M97I
Also watch out for thematic material at 1:00. Now listen to how much more accomplished Williams music is. Oh and if you don't like the non-thematic parts (the more abstract bits) don't think that there is anything wrong with you, you just need to get used to hearing more difficult harmonies before you can appreciate them.
revoltz7 3 years ago
i like the star wars soundtrack very much, and it fits the movie very well (that's what soundtracks are for), i can appreciate the "abstract bits", which i really don't find abstract at all. watch the scene "the search" and listen to its music... it's an art painting in motion...or the incorporation of chains being broken during "the atlantean sword" and if you don't "get it" don't think that there is anything wrong with you, it's just a shame you can't enjoy it.
dissershock 3 years ago
the search? is that a scene from star wars?
revoltz7 3 years ago
lol, you don't even read my relplies fully. like i said before "well actually, "the search" is what i consider the best track in conan's soundtrack"... that's conan the barbarian, by basil poledouris.
dissershock 3 years ago
sry i read it but forgot it :S. I can only find somone's acoustic guitar rendering of the piece. Was it written for orchestra originally?
revoltz7 3 years ago
i think you are not familiar with basil's work on conan the barbarian... i should slap you for that one! i recommend downloading that soundtrack, or better yet, see the movie.
I'll look for that piece on youtube for you, probably it has been removed.
dissershock 3 years ago
bullshit!look at the movies he has scored for.a lot of them differ on so many levels.he adapts to every movie differantly,he's a genius.
cheevo99 3 years ago
But cheevo, if you honestly think that this is genius, you seriously need to go and listen to some more complicated music. I'm not trying to force you, but I think its well worth your time. I think the word genius gets bandied about too much these days.
revoltz7 3 years ago
to me,music like this isnt about it's complexity,but how it touches or affects so many and thats what hans zimmer's music does as far as i'm concerned.
cheevo99 3 years ago 2
Yes but you are wrong there. Eminem and 50 Cent touch more people today (lol) than Prokofiev. Does that mean Eminem and 50 Cent are more talented?
Popularity is not a measure of talent.
Complexity is not the only factor we have to consider, I'm not suggesting that if you deliberately make something rediculously complicated you will always get good results. There has to be a balance.
Zimmer's music doesn't touch me, it deeply aggrivates me.
revoltz7 3 years ago
i think people who know nothing about music (like me) should be the ones to judge who is betterc, being unbiased and such. it's all about emotion and the combination with the images of the movie they are composed for. Zimmer and Ennio are both great in their own way. who cares who is more original, if i'm watching a movie and the music suites it, and it captures my imagination, then it's mission accomplished... no matter who composed it. be glad that we can enjoy their work in our life time
dissershock 3 years ago
In other words, innocent ears have more of a right to judge than other musicians/composers? Well I agree that music is there to enjoy, but there are so many other talented composers out there who could be doing a better job than he is. This is based on objective criteria. I'm not saying that nobody should enjoy it, but the fact that he is a weak composer is true.
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
objective criteria? ...there are no such things as "objective criteria" in the arts, that's what (fortunately) differentiate it from science. and if there were such criteria, i would like to hear some of you?
luckily, it's all about emotion i think :D
i personally find Basil Poledouris' movie theme of conan the barbarian the best ever, real raw, and well, it reminds me also of my youth :D
dissershock 3 years ago
Firstly, thank you for the reply. secondly thanks for not calling me an ignorant idiot :P
Maybe that's where my thinking is wrong then(?). I judge everything that way. There are right and wrongs, good and evil's etc. In Hans Zimmer's music I just find a lack of invention in harmonic and melodic material.
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
well that just makes you an ignorant idiot! (just kidding). people who aren't intelligent enough to express themselves tend to use those words. i am more of a movies fan, and when i watch one, i watch it "professionally" and that's too bad, takes a lot out of the fun. i hope i was that 9 year old kid again who couldn't sleep for a week after seeing a horror movie without even noticing the bad special effects. what you think of this one? watch?v=sHDmXtW9Yx0
dissershock 3 years ago
Nobody ever complained that movie music was too good in the 'Goldenage'. This is a farcry from today, where anybody who takes the time to 'musically enrich' themselves will be of the opinion that Zimmer's music is too bad!
There are right and wrongs in music! If this was not recognised, Wagner would not have written such fantastic music!
The job of a composer is to descriminate between good and bad, and Zimmer is terrible at doing this!
revoltz7 3 years ago
Perhaps you are just too inexperienced to realise what film makers want and how Zimmer supplies. Films like Rain Man, Driving Miss Daisy, Matchstick Men, Hannibal and Gladiator (just to name a few of Zim's work) are all extremely different and all provide an atmosphere that the directors of those films felt invaluable to convey a message wrapped in the fabric of the film. Seriously, the experts have spoken, so you disagree, not a big deal. But realise the medium in what you are talking about.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
when all "the experts" say that one composer's music is beautifil... and that music doesn't touch me, then that's the end of that story. good and bad music are subjective terms, 1 composer can make good ad bad music... labelling one composer as being "bad" is kinda narrow minded i think. As for zimmer: his music, in my opinion, gives movies that extra "feeling" which makes watching them for me a great experience
dissershock 3 years ago
Hey you're entitled to your opinion, but he doesn't meet the criteria needed to be a good composer in my opinion.
Music isn't really that subjective. We can say Wagner used more complex harmony than Zimmer, wrote better melodies (although that is subjective), used more complicated textures, used better orchestration etc. The good and bad of music have built up over the last 400 years. If we admit that music is subjective we destroy the last 400 years of music!
revoltz7 3 years ago
i'm entitled to my opinion? thanks.what criteria are those?
the quality of music, does not depend on its complexity...
i would like to hear some of your objective criteria, which make a composer good. when one wou ld obey such criteria... well, everyone would become a good composer
dissershock 3 years ago
The point is everyone isn't able to obey the rules of being a good composer. Of course there are rules (or "objective criteria"), why do you think composers have been taught them for centuries? Before I began composing music I thought Hans Zimmer was amazing, but compared to the likes of Wagner, Williams, Tschaikovsky, etc he isn't.
The quality of music does depend on its complexity to an extent. Of course complexity is not the only important criterion, but its one of them.
revoltz7 3 years ago
what objective criteria are there for composing music? that's what i asked, and no one seem to answer that question.
" Before I began composing music I thought Hans Zimmer was amazing"
...don't you find it extremely disappointing now you can't enjoy his music because of some rules defining your "taste" in music?
IF "the experts" think he sucks at composing... so what?... he brought much joy to the movie going experience of many people, including mine.
and no complexity kills music
dissershock 3 years ago
Hi disser, I stated some of the objective criteria earlier. Of course you can only take objectivity upto a point; a good example, is that the Planet's suite by Holst is objectively better than the Gladiator score, that tries to rip it off. However when trying to argue which piece is the best movement from the Planet's suite, it is impossible.
Possible objective criteria: Orchestration, melodic inventiveness, texture (ie how many things are going on at once) (cont)
revoltz7 3 years ago
cont - chord progressions, voice leading (ie if you listen very closely to every instrumental part, does everything flow from one note to the other properly) harmonic language (ie what kind of harmonies are predominant - eg impressionistic, jazz, or zimmer pop)
Of course everyone uses objective criteria to assess music, but they do it subconsciously.
These criteria have built up over the last 400 years, and Zimmer is not able to conform to them.
revoltz7 3 years ago
I love the music for Rogue Spear (2nd Rainbow 6 game to be released) It's actually similar to Zimmer, although in my opinion a lot better. However, I readily accept that it is not as good as a piece of real orchestral music. I may even enjoy it more than Mozart's Eine Kleine Nachtmusik, but that doesn't make it better.
revoltz7 3 years ago
"Of course everyone uses objective criteria to assess music, but they do it subconsciously."... this is very true, everyone has a primordial feel for music, which is NOT objective, since everyone has a different feeling for music. limiting this primordial feeling by "objective" rules is in my opinion the worst thing you can do. the rules you are mentioning being made up for the last 400 years,... well, music exists since about the beginning of time. as for all the arts, people who DO ...
dissershock 3 years ago 2
people who DO violate those rules are considered the innovators. why aren't painters who broke "the rules" appreciated in their time, but only later on when they died?..well, cause like man... the arts are dynamic, and NOT limited by rules. my musical sense is led by my feeling and what physical reaction that music brings to me and i will not let it be limited by "chord progressions", "voice leading", "harmonic language"... which you consider being objective. as for FILM music...
dissershock 3 years ago 2
as for FILM music... that is a whole other dimension, in which you have to consider many different things. does the music capture the thoughts of the director? does it draw the watcher into the movie? etc etc etc... even the simple whistles in ennio's music by Alessandro Alessandroni are on their own maybe not impressive at all... but in particular scenes in the movie they have a huge impact.
dissershock 3 years ago 2
inexperienced, naivete, lack of wisdom/knowledge always limits one's way of thinking. You own admittance. :-)))
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
I think Zimmer is a moderately good composer, but honestly I don't think anything he has composed will survive the test of time. in the other hand, Ennio Morricone is the greatest film composer alive. my favorites are him, Bernard Herrmann and Jerry Goldsmith.
puccini007 4 years ago
lol Spanish? Ennio is Italian
Idsz 4 years ago
it's funny to see alot of these pseudo-artists and composers use the Fibonacci sequence, thinking it's the ideal, universally perfect equation of how to write a piece or paint a masterpiece. They seem to assume it as the thing to run to and exploit just as it would be ridiculous to see the whole world search for and exploit the fountain of youth, and then rat-race to be supermodels.
Though, no doubt, Fibonacci sequencing results in interesting outcomes.
dusteroo 4 years ago
Herman, can you show me a popular modern musical piece that's NOT derived from Pachelbel?
nickgilby04 4 years ago
there are too many notes,just cut a few out
CHANNELOMD 4 years ago
Herman,If you can do better then why aren't you, and why do we not hear your name being mentioned as the next John Williams, or Mozarts successor? don't hate on him, better him!
Gr8vel 4 years ago
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zimmer destroys good music, his stew of shit is just a cruel rip-off of good standart pachelbel-like harmonies (D, A, Bm, F#m, G, D, G, A)
HermanTheSorcerer 4 years ago
I don't know of any Zimmer pieces that follow that chord progression. surely The Ring OST can't remind you of that. Zimmer's music is awesome, maybe a little lacking in creativity sometimes, but exciting nonetheless.
tommyk77 4 years ago
Jealous and insecure you are. You are a failure, a hack, and have no talent. So naturally, you get pissy with those who are achieving, well recieved, well respected and extraordinarily talented. He has scored brilliant scores and melodies. He has won oscars, you havent. he is successful, you arent. he lives better than you. you probably couldnt even name one note from Cm7 chord.
JessOnTheRun 4 years ago
C (the root) Eb (the minor 3rd) G (the major 5th) Bb (the 7th)...
Still don't like him!
TheBlackPage1 4 years ago
doesnt matter what your naive, ignorant reason may be, you are the loser, he is the winner. Like someone who has accomplished gives a hoot about if some nobody likes him or not. Nice job googling the chord. ;-) It only took you a week.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
I'm ignorant because I hate Zimmer? Give me a fuckin' break! I saw your comment 2 days ago, I replied. I don't know why you think it took me a week. Seen as your so sure that I am naive and ignorant, I could make the same baseless assumptions about you, but I'm really above that!
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
No, you cant make assumptions, as you have no basis to base fundamental conclusion. (perhaps you need to educate yourself on the meaning of assume)...you are only best at presumptuous disposition, which reveals your lack of experienc, naivete and ignorance. Nice how you easily resort to belligerence, proving you have no argument nor point...as children cornered usually do. So you arent above anything...you are actually beneath me, as are your weak family.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
If you think Zimmer is a good composer, then I'm sorry but it's you who is lacking a good education. Is it so inconceivable to you that someone can study something, decide it is bulls&*@ and then move on? You are the one making assumptions, not me. Zimmer's music is trite, mediocre and half-assed. One listen to a Stravinsky piece, and you can hear what an ant Zimmer is in comparison to such a master.
Give me one example of when I was belligerent, too. It'll be good for a laugh.
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
your lame adolescent name calling and bullshit is belligerent or are you too stupid to realise anything you actually post? Stravinsky? you arent knowledgable about music kid...you are too conventional and trite. you are too limited and intolerant to even understand, kiddo. You are only 18, naive, inexperienced and havent yet begun to live yet, you have no credibility kid. Plus you are in the UK...you people are behind in music performance and education. get a grip and a life loser.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
It seems that you are the one with no life, sir. I'm 18, yes. What's YOUR excuse for posting nasty, insulting comments? I've kept my cool all the way through this discussion and never resorted to personally insulting/attacking you. It's not just the UK that is lacking in music education, it's in America too. At least I have self-discipline when it comes to my practicing, just because I'm British does not mean I can't do that. Or does it? You are the one with all the knowledge in insight.
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
Is that why American music students and the level of musicianship is recognised world wide as the best, most comprehensive? Get a clue you 18 yr old liar and hypocrite. I have no time for weak, insignificant, naive, inexperienced morons. Get a life you toothless brit. you waste time bitching about your jealousies because others achieve you do nothing.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
So far you have come up with no valid or objective evidence that Zimmer is a great composer. Either do that or don't reply to my comments."Too conventional and trite"? Stravinsky broke all the rules in his great music, it was far from conventional or trite. Rite of Spring caused a riot when it was first performed. Not the kind of reaction a conventional piece of music has. Ultimately, I'm only interested in discussing music, not trading insults.
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
Stravinsky broke rules? LMFAO. you are too conventional, kid. Bartok broke rules, Leo Bernstein broke rules....get with it kid, you know nothing you talk of. you are only 18....LOL, a kiddie.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
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Time for your medication.
TheBlackPage1 3 years ago
Jess... Alexander Scriabin wrote his beautiful Etude no3 for piano when he was 13! Mozart wrote his first symphony when he was 6!
revoltz7 3 years ago
Jess, somebody who calls someone a toothless Brit shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion on anything. Because you are obviously a callous, pre-judgemental fool.
Blackpage is completely right, Zimmer is mediocre at best, and that is taking it to the extreme.
Jealousy has nothing to do with it. I admit I am slightly jealous of John Williams and I am jealous of Zimmer's fame. However, I think Williams' is a great composer, whilst Zimmer is a laughable, if not irritating, joke
revoltz7 3 years ago
You are naive and inexperienced. As anyone, regardless of commentary, have an opinion, then again, from your communist/fascist background, I see where you would like to keep others quiet.Sorry, kid, doesnt work that way...even when someone disagrees with you and is 100% correct, someone of your obvious emotional disorders and human frailty DO NOT get the authority to tell others what and what not they can do. You are very inexperienced in music, but that is another topic.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
John Williams, man, can you get any more mainstream than that? Without Wagner, Williams would have never made it.
JessOnTheRun 3 years ago
Morricone and Zimmer are the best of the their time.
I prefer a little more of Zmmer because his scores for The Last Samurai, King Arthur, The Rock and Gladiator are the strongest music for war I ever heard.
But then again... Morricone has songs like Chi Mai or The good The Bad And The Ugly or Once Upon A Time In The West wich are very beautiful.
If you want powerful and beautiful listen to Zimmer, if you want soft an beautiful listen to Morricone.
bngfng 4 years ago
You forgot Williams
DonMishima 4 years ago
Gladiator was my all time favorite sountrack album. Every second of it is so brilliant and honest.
dusteroo 4 years ago 2
Mr. Morricone is a God. I respect Zimmer and he is good, but will never be as good as Ennio, nor anyone else will be. Zimmer, I believe, even copied some of Morricone's pieces from The Mission for The Lion King soundtrack. There are some really striking similarities, and Zimmer has been known to do this "borrowing" before.
spiderwebs7215 4 years ago 2
Yupz. I agree. I love Zimmer's work. Tends to be grand in scope and he's very emotive, but occasionally some similarities do emerge as far as "themes" are concerned...
The Black Rain Soundtrack's got a score that sounds very similar to Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence by Ryuichi Sakamoto.
Ennio is old school and on Gabriel's oboe alone wins between the two. Although music is never a pissing contest. :)
biglebowski55 4 years ago
Notice how he admits at the end that 'the more he writes, the more he knows, he knows nothing (...) because it's the same notes always'. It's true, unfortunately. He keeps copying himself and others (motifs and themes from Mozart's Requiem are in almost every movie of his)..
pjkorab 4 years ago
Music and sports are very different.
in sports you have ranks.
in music you don't.
what you connect to is important.
ennio or hanzmmier they are bott excellent musicians.
they work as hard and are as passoinate about their works i guess.
they make music instead of making guns and bombs... i like that ")
muzicphiles 4 years ago 3
That's interesting about what Hans said about how he used to go to the piano and sit a improvise and that now he has intention before he starts to write something. I write music and I improvise alot of my ideas, so I guess I am at the beginning stages and will take his piece of advice and wok on having intention.
I love YouTube for being able to see things like this from my bedroom.
~Aiyana
Aiyana25 4 years ago
both zimmer and morricone are good composers but the last greatest composer was rachmaninov and the greatest of all were mozart beethoven and bach
kokoman21454 4 years ago 2
Mozart, Beethoven and Bach are mere mortals compared to Morricone whose ethreal compositons transcend both space and time.
GuitarSpeller 4 years ago
guitarspeller "Mozart, Beethoven and Bach are mere mortals compared to Morricone whose ethreal compositons transcend both space and time"
well, after all those centuries you are still discussing them, so they kinda already transcended both space and time
dissershock 3 years ago 2
Hanz Zimmer is very good and is a great compositor of his generation
But Morricone is simply the best artist upon all the music artists of all times. (upon every singers or compositors). His music is at the same time beautiful and strong and gives a very original atmosphere that perfectly fits each film.
GOD BLESS ENNIO MORRICONE.
browniewestside 4 years ago 5
you are so right!!!
susangaladriel 4 years ago
Morricone is superior to Zimmer. But Zimmer is good..
phille22 4 years ago 2
Love him!
Maturity 4 years ago 2
i really really like zimmers music
ermaclob 4 years ago 4
ennio & hans:two genius of music!
lupakkiotta1986 4 years ago 6
this is from soncinemad, madrid film music festival
christodec 4 years ago
the wings of a film,the music of hans zimmer...
liuwenjie6678 4 years ago
god of original score!!!
liuwenjie6678 4 years ago
Top 3 soundtrack composers: 1. ennio morricone; 2. Basil Poledouris (check anvil of crom); 3. Hans Zimmer
dissershock 4 years ago
Hans Zimmer Is The Best
Taker882006 4 years ago
Is this really about music? Can't we appreciate different kind of music, different kind of personal style? I do really like it that both Hans Zimmer & Ennio Morriconne have different kind of approaches. To hear all kind of influences from their culture and from others that influenced them, make it a great joy for me to listen to them!
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lisalov4 4 years ago
Funny that you use God in your argument.. if you ever read His book the bible, you would get to know that He loves all mankind and that He asks us to love Him and our neighbours, which includes all different nationalities. Get to know God and learn to love.
Adelaartje 4 years ago 2