just wanted to chime in on the debate here about the legality of native american artifact collecting. each state has private property rights, so for example here in texas it is completely legal to collect or dig for artifacts as long as its not on public land. there are in fact businesses that offer pay to dig operations. these businesses pay taxes to the state and everything is legit. so it comes down to an ethical delima.
you can take classes for audit and not have to take test they are cheap but you don't get credit but good info like where and how deep so don't asume that people that can read don't rescue points ... so relax super killer nobodies trying to tell you something like go to school
Here in Indiana you can only get in trouble for digging artifacts. Anything on the surface like in fields and creeks is totally legal to collect. I hate "know it all's" who know everything. They piss me off. Usually getting their information from other idiots.
looks like a dickson point to me. Of course I don't know much but I know that Dickson points were flat on the bottom like that where the Adena's were rounded.
I have gotten better at point typing...You are right, Adenas had a more rounded base, Dicksons were more squared off. This points base is perfectly squared off.
Yeah Adena's and Dickson's are so similar. I found an awesome Adena and wasn't sure what it was at first because it had traits of a Dickson. Sweet point either way!
If you find something it is best to keep it to yourself or you could find yourself on the recieving end of a bunch of trouble from the law.
Especially if you find something on your own property because if word gets around to the "legitimate" archaeologists you will soon have the beard and sandle crowd from the local university invading your land with the sheriff in tow and they will take your finds.
Keep your mouth shut and enjoy your finds at home.
I will BE CAREFUl, thanks. I am picking up artifacts from spots that are being dug for commercial enterprises, demolished with no hope for "proper archealogical" excavations. The sites I am at are already contaminated and disturbed as to render archealogical data inconclusive and obsolete. I will not keep my mouth shut either, I have the right to speak my mind. I enjoy my finds with others who post on this website. I can only offer the advice that if this does bother you, just don't view it.
Those are some nice points you found, I never see anything that large from this area most here are an inch or so.
I do know people here who have run into trouble, some guys who use metal detectors mostly to find coins. One of them was fined and had his coins confiscated, he had permission to search the land (churchyard) but no matter. He thinks it was the coin dealer he showed them to who reported him. Anything deemed 100 years old is the state's.
You must be in a "newer" site (in terms of smaller points, which tells me they are true arrowheads shot from a bow), although stone age peoples always used blades of some sort, so I am suprised you have not found more blades or longer points. 75% of my "arrowheads" are actually atlatl dart points, which were used for a FAR longer period of time, historically speaking than the bow and arrow.
Another thing I wanted to mention, I once had some interesting stuff I wanted looked at, and a professor of archeaology looked at my stuff, asked me all sorts of questions, and left it at that. He never once mentioned anything about taking over the site or getting the law involved, and this guy is VERY well known as an authority in the surrounding area. His name is Jack Ray. I honestly believe that most archealogists would not have the time to mess with every guy finding aritfacts. Lots of us
Yeah, I realize that archealogists can come and claim a site for researched digs, but the act of digging on your land is still not illegal. So if you are digging out a tree or harvesting dirt for a landscaping project or plowing a field, I think it is not going to be a problem to pick up artifacts. I am not on here boasting or running my mouth about artifiacts, just posting vids of my finds.
I am in Missouri...SW to be exact. I do practically no creek hunting, as I have not found any quite yet that have produced flint. I am not sure there are that many good artifact producing creeks in the area I live in. What part of Missouri are you in?
my father found a 5&1/2 inch spear point? in the river in '68 still has a kind greenish color to it nobody ever seen it cept us
flyinv1967 2 months ago
thanks for the post and for the record im all for digging them up so everyone can enjoy the art of our ancestors
hillcountrydigger 1 year ago
just wanted to chime in on the debate here about the legality of native american artifact collecting. each state has private property rights, so for example here in texas it is completely legal to collect or dig for artifacts as long as its not on public land. there are in fact businesses that offer pay to dig operations. these businesses pay taxes to the state and everything is legit. so it comes down to an ethical delima.
hillcountrydigger 1 year ago
why can't i get 23k views of my vids lol?
fallsgrave 1 year ago
you can take classes for audit and not have to take test they are cheap but you don't get credit but good info like where and how deep so don't asume that people that can read don't rescue points ... so relax super killer nobodies trying to tell you something like go to school
tdd4art 1 year ago
adena - dixion classic i got my info from Southern Illinois university where i study the prehistory of Illinois with the other idiots. piss that off
tdd4art 1 year ago
adena - dixion classic
tdd4art 1 year ago
Wow killer Dickson. I would pee myself if I found that thing. Super thin, straight base - classic. Too bad about the tip :(
MadEclectic 1 year ago
@MadEclectic
THe tip is actually worked that way...rounded like that, fine flaking all around it. Probably re-worked.
jasonjmj 1 year ago
Nice point. Here what I do. Mark and burn a graduated ruler of about a foot right on your walking, poking, fliper stick. Use it for size reference.
Thanks for sharing...
txrelichunter 1 year ago
Awesome! I love finding them like that. Happy for ya guy@!! what state you in?
JestersWord75 2 years ago
you remind me of me...I thank God every time I find something!!! that is a Dickson point..Adena would have a more rounded base
Ravenwilliams69 2 years ago
@Ravenwilliams69 dont thank god thank the indians!
CottonmouthOutfitter 1 year ago
cool
Ravenwilliams69 2 years ago
Here in Indiana you can only get in trouble for digging artifacts. Anything on the surface like in fields and creeks is totally legal to collect. I hate "know it all's" who know everything. They piss me off. Usually getting their information from other idiots.
bristowboy20 2 years ago
thats really stupid... what do THEY do w/ the arrowheads?
waGiE5fW 2 years ago
@waGiE5fW its called a hobby. something other than playing XBOX or PS3
2403328 1 year ago 3
If points stay in the ground then NOBODY will be able to enjoy them.
Pick 'em up and thanks for sharing!
EDBO23 2 years ago
quit looting sites
kpgoog 2 years ago
I would only suggest to you to not watch these videos if they bother you in any way. Thanks.
jasonjmj 2 years ago
I have something I need identified if any one knows anything about relics.. check out my WTF video please and thanks!
BlazeRecords 2 years ago
looks like a dickson point to me. Of course I don't know much but I know that Dickson points were flat on the bottom like that where the Adena's were rounded.
acenchief28 2 years ago
I have gotten better at point typing...You are right, Adenas had a more rounded base, Dicksons were more squared off. This points base is perfectly squared off.
jasonjmj 2 years ago
Yeah Adena's and Dickson's are so similar. I found an awesome Adena and wasn't sure what it was at first because it had traits of a Dickson. Sweet point either way!
acenchief28 2 years ago
BE CAREFUL as others have said here.
If you find something it is best to keep it to yourself or you could find yourself on the recieving end of a bunch of trouble from the law.
Especially if you find something on your own property because if word gets around to the "legitimate" archaeologists you will soon have the beard and sandle crowd from the local university invading your land with the sheriff in tow and they will take your finds.
Keep your mouth shut and enjoy your finds at home.
DanOblacksmith 3 years ago
I will BE CAREFUl, thanks. I am picking up artifacts from spots that are being dug for commercial enterprises, demolished with no hope for "proper archealogical" excavations. The sites I am at are already contaminated and disturbed as to render archealogical data inconclusive and obsolete. I will not keep my mouth shut either, I have the right to speak my mind. I enjoy my finds with others who post on this website. I can only offer the advice that if this does bother you, just don't view it.
jasonjmj 3 years ago
Doesn't bother me at all, quite the contrary.
Those are some nice points you found, I never see anything that large from this area most here are an inch or so.
I do know people here who have run into trouble, some guys who use metal detectors mostly to find coins. One of them was fined and had his coins confiscated, he had permission to search the land (churchyard) but no matter. He thinks it was the coin dealer he showed them to who reported him. Anything deemed 100 years old is the state's.
DanOblacksmith 3 years ago
You must be in a "newer" site (in terms of smaller points, which tells me they are true arrowheads shot from a bow), although stone age peoples always used blades of some sort, so I am suprised you have not found more blades or longer points. 75% of my "arrowheads" are actually atlatl dart points, which were used for a FAR longer period of time, historically speaking than the bow and arrow.
jasonjmj 3 years ago
Another thing I wanted to mention, I once had some interesting stuff I wanted looked at, and a professor of archeaology looked at my stuff, asked me all sorts of questions, and left it at that. He never once mentioned anything about taking over the site or getting the law involved, and this guy is VERY well known as an authority in the surrounding area. His name is Jack Ray. I honestly believe that most archealogists would not have the time to mess with every guy finding aritfacts. Lots of us
jasonjmj 3 years ago
I don't need to be careful here...it is private property of close personal friends of mine. I can dig till the cows come home there!
jasonjmj 3 years ago
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DanOblacksmith 3 years ago
Yeah, I realize that archealogists can come and claim a site for researched digs, but the act of digging on your land is still not illegal. So if you are digging out a tree or harvesting dirt for a landscaping project or plowing a field, I think it is not going to be a problem to pick up artifacts. I am not on here boasting or running my mouth about artifiacts, just posting vids of my finds.
jasonjmj 3 years ago
your comment really caught my attention. why did he get arrested? was he on private property while filming?
CalfCreek4x12x08 3 years ago
what state you in ? that was a cool find check out my finds i creek hunt in missouri.. another guys is ovets cool videos.later...mike
mikestand714 3 years ago
I am in Missouri...SW to be exact. I do practically no creek hunting, as I have not found any quite yet that have produced flint. I am not sure there are that many good artifact producing creeks in the area I live in. What part of Missouri are you in?
jasonjmj 3 years ago
We are in southwest too
waGiE5fW 3 years ago
I like finding those Adena points. That one would have made my day! Congrats
c0dyc0mpl3x 3 years ago
Beautiful point man....WOW!!
Bamafishin 3 years ago
Awesome in-situ video!! Thanks for sharing and keep posting!
ovets1 3 years ago
amazing point! way to go man!!
jimhalpert1976 3 years ago
nice find man.. keep up the good work!
xbaseballcardfreekx 3 years ago
Awesome point. Wow.
dovetailpoint 3 years ago