Why bother to customize an item if there is no GUARANTEE I will get that same item back, or even if I did get it back that it would still be the same as when I left it.
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For TVP to work, you would have to remove Vanity from the human psyche.
You would have to 'dumb down' free will. There is only 3 ways to do that, chemically, surgically, technologically(brainwashing) !
There will be no 'unqueness', NO customization in TVP.
In the movie Z:MF at 1:41:30-on P. Joseph talks about how everyone will share common things like cars, boats, and bikes, you know things like that. In TVP a person would use an item like this and just turn it over to the next person for use.
PJ talks about NO ownership of these things.
With no ownership of these things, you wouldn't be able to customize them!
@ENDtheFED2012 well im not calling you anything but human and well there are good and bad that come from everything but if you only focus on the bad then well thats what your only going to see.. and we did not try this idea yet and for rape well if some people just want to be cared for and having the 'Alpha-Male' complex aka god complex is more why it happens so money does bye rape. and rape in witch sort as well i have been raped in school and not sexually
" well there are good and bad that come from everything but if you only focus on the bad then well thats what your only going to see.. " ....... like if you only focus on the bad things about Capitalism?
Do you have any idea what capitalism has done for the world?
Do you realize how many 'poor' people it made 'un-poor' and gave these people better lives?
I'm talking about sex-rape.==> "There were no ancient nomadic 'advertising agents to sell sex' ".
@ENDtheFED2012 There were no ancient nomadic 'advertising agents to sell sex' , but the ancient nomadic people still had the problems of rape. with this statement you just prove that money has to do with sex. with no-pay then its rape...
Example- A man desires a strange woman. That woman rejects him. The man becomes upset. The man rapes(forces himself apon the woman against HER WILL) the woman.
What does this have to do with money. Even if the man offered the woman as much resources as she could ever want or need, or if both held the same amount of resources and nothing was taken by either.
He rapes her because of his sexual desires for her that 'he' can't control.
@ENDtheFED2012 well in that case its not money but i also did not said that money was the main motivating factor either. in this case if the man had the same amount of money then it would be because he was turned down in the first place because of his ego tells him every female wants him. or hes just an ass in the first place but in any way its psychological. be it with money ( power ) or ego ( power ) rape is more a power struggle then anything else.
@ENDtheFED2012 so in the case you did give me you are right money was not a factor of the power struggle. i should have worded it differently sorry for that. but like i told you i am only human. i am prone to error as is every one
Also,... in TZM and TVP, they talk about there not being a need for laws and no need for a policing force of any kind.
What about crimes like rape, pedefilia, and incest? You can NOT teach 'lust' out of the human psyche.
What about illegal drugs, and I'm not just talking about a little Pot.? I'm talking about drugs like heroin and coke. Won't we need a policing force for that?
.
So if we do need some kind of 'policing force'... who or what controls it? The 'policing force' that is.
@ENDtheFED2012 i would like to know if you can control your self first all your rouges like rape, pedophilia, and incest. if you can then why cant others do the same and for drugs. it seems to show that if you make something band then it would just grow in popularity but also you can see that the media does help its popularity. so out of site out of mind. rape... there are movies with it in it as well as all the other things you talk about it is popular cutler that make the problems worst
... cont'd... those H&G had the best choice of mates. Now we use money to barter for those goods 'the meat and food stores', so the person with the most money can ensure a mate better success for her offspring.
In a RBE like in TVP, fat, balding, unattractive guys will NEVER get attarctive women, and unattractive women will NEVER get attactive guys.
Attractive people will stick with attarctive people, and UNattarctive people will not have the means to compete.
@ENDtheFED2012 well its all ture but good looking rich people well they look nice but i would rather date a fat person that was doing ok then a rich person with money you can be beautiful but have a social standing of a toad i want to see people think with there mind not there wallet so you can keep this BS of a system have it in a small place somewhere there is no need for childish crap like this anymore PLEASE GROW UP
Yeahhh,... dude, I hate to burst your bubble on TZM and TVP, but it's not gonna work. I have watched all of the movies, watched latures by Peter Joseph, letures by Jack Fresco, and much more,... It's not gonna work.
TZM and TVP do not account for all human emotions and conditions. For example,... the 'Alpha-Male' complex. Without money, a person can not show personal value to help atract a mate. 'The best Hunters and Gatherers had the best meats and food stores, therefore,... cont'd...
Listen,... a video responce won't help, but go ahead.
I was blocked and had all of my comments removed from the new Zeitgeist; Moving Forward film on Y/T.
This things I was writing COULD NOT BE REFUTTED by anyone.
TZM, TVP, and a RBE = Techno-Neo-Marxism. P. Marx wanted the moneatry system and the State to fade away leaving only 'pure' commune-ism behind. Samething like TZM / TVP.
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The reason I don't like Joseph, Fresco, and TZM/TVP ... they are very deceptive.
@ENDtheFED2012 i am apart of the tzm / tvp have i been in anyway deceptive. what ever ism you want to put on it is pointless. because even in this system what commune-ism turned in to. was capitalism plain and simple so commune-ism was never really used in its fullest. and idk nuch about you so i can say many things but not have them true or just say them to make my self happy but im not for i am just as human as every one on earth is and have the same faults as they do as well
... cont'd ...
Why bother to customize an item if there is no GUARANTEE I will get that same item back, or even if I did get it back that it would still be the same as when I left it.
.
For TVP to work, you would have to remove Vanity from the human psyche.
You would have to 'dumb down' free will. There is only 3 ways to do that, chemically, surgically, technologically(brainwashing) !
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
Things like ...
There will be no 'unqueness', NO customization in TVP.
In the movie Z:MF at 1:41:30-on P. Joseph talks about how everyone will share common things like cars, boats, and bikes, you know things like that. In TVP a person would use an item like this and just turn it over to the next person for use.
PJ talks about NO ownership of these things.
With no ownership of these things, you wouldn't be able to customize them!
... cont'd ...
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
Things like ...
What about crimes like rape, pedeifilia, and incest?
These crimes have nothing to do with money.
So YES, there will be laws and a policing force in TVP.
There will also have to be 'holding centers' for repeat offenders.
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Joseph and Fresco are misleading.
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 ill tell you what prove to me that its not money related and ill prove to you it is.
cricketol 11 months ago
@cricketol Proof ...
There were no ancient nomadic 'advertising agents to sell sex' , but the ancient nomadic people still had the problems of rape.
Ancient reliogions had to put laws in there books to help curb this.
I'm a Deist. I'm not religious.<== by the way, so don't call be a bible beater.
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 well im not calling you anything but human and well there are good and bad that come from everything but if you only focus on the bad then well thats what your only going to see.. and we did not try this idea yet and for rape well if some people just want to be cared for and having the 'Alpha-Male' complex aka god complex is more why it happens so money does bye rape. and rape in witch sort as well i have been raped in school and not sexually
cricketol 11 months ago
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@cricketol
" well there are good and bad that come from everything but if you only focus on the bad then well thats what your only going to see.. " ....... like if you only focus on the bad things about Capitalism?
Do you have any idea what capitalism has done for the world?
Do you realize how many 'poor' people it made 'un-poor' and gave these people better lives?
I'm talking about sex-rape.==> "There were no ancient nomadic 'advertising agents to sell sex' ".
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 There were no ancient nomadic 'advertising agents to sell sex' , but the ancient nomadic people still had the problems of rape. with this statement you just prove that money has to do with sex. with no-pay then its rape...
cricketol 11 months ago
@cricketol
What are you talking about.
Example- A man desires a strange woman. That woman rejects him. The man becomes upset. The man rapes(forces himself apon the woman against HER WILL) the woman.
What does this have to do with money. Even if the man offered the woman as much resources as she could ever want or need, or if both held the same amount of resources and nothing was taken by either.
He rapes her because of his sexual desires for her that 'he' can't control.
NO MONEY !
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 well in that case its not money but i also did not said that money was the main motivating factor either. in this case if the man had the same amount of money then it would be because he was turned down in the first place because of his ego tells him every female wants him. or hes just an ass in the first place but in any way its psychological. be it with money ( power ) or ego ( power ) rape is more a power struggle then anything else.
cricketol 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 so in the case you did give me you are right money was not a factor of the power struggle. i should have worded it differently sorry for that. but like i told you i am only human. i am prone to error as is every one
cricketol 11 months ago
Also,... in TZM and TVP, they talk about there not being a need for laws and no need for a policing force of any kind.
What about crimes like rape, pedefilia, and incest? You can NOT teach 'lust' out of the human psyche.
What about illegal drugs, and I'm not just talking about a little Pot.? I'm talking about drugs like heroin and coke. Won't we need a policing force for that?
.
So if we do need some kind of 'policing force'... who or what controls it? The 'policing force' that is.
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 i would like to know if you can control your self first all your rouges like rape, pedophilia, and incest. if you can then why cant others do the same and for drugs. it seems to show that if you make something band then it would just grow in popularity but also you can see that the media does help its popularity. so out of site out of mind. rape... there are movies with it in it as well as all the other things you talk about it is popular cutler that make the problems worst
cricketol 11 months ago
... cont'd... those H&G had the best choice of mates. Now we use money to barter for those goods 'the meat and food stores', so the person with the most money can ensure a mate better success for her offspring.
In a RBE like in TVP, fat, balding, unattractive guys will NEVER get attarctive women, and unattractive women will NEVER get attactive guys.
Attractive people will stick with attarctive people, and UNattarctive people will not have the means to compete.
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 well its all ture but good looking rich people well they look nice but i would rather date a fat person that was doing ok then a rich person with money you can be beautiful but have a social standing of a toad i want to see people think with there mind not there wallet so you can keep this BS of a system have it in a small place somewhere there is no need for childish crap like this anymore PLEASE GROW UP
cricketol 11 months ago
Yeahhh,... dude, I hate to burst your bubble on TZM and TVP, but it's not gonna work. I have watched all of the movies, watched latures by Peter Joseph, letures by Jack Fresco, and much more,... It's not gonna work.
TZM and TVP do not account for all human emotions and conditions. For example,... the 'Alpha-Male' complex. Without money, a person can not show personal value to help atract a mate. 'The best Hunters and Gatherers had the best meats and food stores, therefore,... cont'd...
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 i will make a video response to this one lol much more to say then i can write in here
cricketol 11 months ago
@cricketol
Listen,... a video responce won't help, but go ahead.
I was blocked and had all of my comments removed from the new Zeitgeist; Moving Forward film on Y/T.
This things I was writing COULD NOT BE REFUTTED by anyone.
TZM, TVP, and a RBE = Techno-Neo-Marxism. P. Marx wanted the moneatry system and the State to fade away leaving only 'pure' commune-ism behind. Samething like TZM / TVP.
.
The reason I don't like Joseph, Fresco, and TZM/TVP ... they are very deceptive.
ENDtheFED2012 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 i am apart of the tzm / tvp have i been in anyway deceptive. what ever ism you want to put on it is pointless. because even in this system what commune-ism turned in to. was capitalism plain and simple so commune-ism was never really used in its fullest. and idk nuch about you so i can say many things but not have them true or just say them to make my self happy but im not for i am just as human as every one on earth is and have the same faults as they do as well
cricketol 11 months ago
@ENDtheFED2012 but it does seem you dont want it to change so in your mind it wont work
cricketol 11 months ago
Very well said.
cwager 1 year ago