J. S. Bach - Little Prelude in E Minor BWV 938

[Neemeess]

Tiens donc, moi aussi je l'ai joué pour un examen, mais je mettais lamentablement planter >_<... Heureusement que j'avais d'autres morceaux en réserve (En fait toute la série des petits préludes pour clavecin BWV 933-938)...

[xxRafaellaxx1]

je l'ai joué pour un examen ! x)

[GerardRatigan]

We may suppose that Ton Koopman knows what is a pitch, a temperament, a tonality. And I wonder how somebody can decide that "he is playing this in D sharp instead of E" without seeing his hands and fingers (an evidence not sufficient because of the existence of transposing keyboards) :lol:

[magichristo]

Why is he playing this in D sharp instead of E?

[wcbroccoli]

He's actually playing in E, not D#.

It only seems to you that he's playing in D# because you assume everyone must tune to A440.

[magichristo]

@wcbroccoli I know what I'm saying, I have the perfect pitch and I can distinguish quarter notes, blablabla.

This is definetly NOT E.

Maybe his harpsichord is out of tune.

[wcbroccoli]

@magichristo

Why do you assume the harpsichord is supposed to be tuned to A440?

And why do you assume that if it's not tuned to A440, then it must be out of tune?

[magichristo]

@wcbroccoli I dont.

And I'm not saying it's not tuned to A440, I'm saying it's out of tune. Each note has its limits of frequencies. This is way beyond that.

[wcbroccoli]

@magichristo There's no such thing as an absolute, preordained pitch for each note. It all depends on the choice of starting pitch and temperament.

You are assuming everyone is SUPPOSED to tune to A440.

You may also be assuming everyone is SUPPOSED to use equal temperament.

[magichristo]

@wcbroccoli What I'm saying is that you can't tune an A to sound like a G(A440 tuned) and call it an A.

[wcbroccoli]

@magichristo There's no law that says A MUST be tuned ot 440 Hz.

This harpsichord is tuned to baroque chamber pitch (A415) and probably Werckmeister, not equal, temperament.

The actual pitch of a named note depends on the CHOICE of starting pitch & temperament.

[wcbroccoli]

@magichristo A440 wasn't adopted as an international "standard" until the 1950s. Yet some major philharmonics tune HIGHER than A440. Period ensembles usually tune to baroque chamber pitch (a 1/2 step lower than A440), except when they perform certain baroque church music which must be played at organ pitch (about a whole step higher than chamber pitch), in which case the wind parts must be transposed up since they can only play at chamber pitch. Renassance winds tuned higher than barqoue winds.

[elmbudsman]

@magichristo yes you can, as long as everyone agrees.

[ricardogoldstein]

Impresionante Koopman como siempre.

[wcbroccoli]

Precisely the right number of trills.

[magichristo]

@wcbroccoli absolutely

[Disestabulistic]

a little overboard with the trills

[biiiitass]

omg ts gooood!!!!