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  • Nice style...

    My only comment- step across further. You will feel like you are falling but you wont. The knee bend will automagically work itself out.

  • @kentek3141

    "automagically", I agree.  A better knee angle is the right answer. I fully agree with you! Yes, it's much like free fall.

  • if you do not lean your knees more , push with the heels and move your hips transferring your body weight on the heel , double push will not occur.

    do not forget throw the skate that is in the air behind the knee to give more weight and consequential power to underpush.

  • Your foot is landing too far underneith your body. There is not a true underpush happening. With a DP, your foot should land straight or slightly pigeon-toed. At that time, your weight shifts over your leg causing the underpush to occur. In your video, your foot is landing too far underneith and no power is being generated by the double push. It looks like you are trying to generate the underpush with your legs rather than your body (shifting your wieght).

  • Nice try man you´re close to get it, an advise: Try to transfer more the wieght or your weist to each side, so the double-push will be more powerfull and you´ll advance more, try to work on your knees angle, you´re kind of standed, get down little more

  • i do that when i suffle skate with my quads dose that mean it will be easy for me to dubble push when i get my inlines

  • Roll4life ;)

  • the less bent your knees are the shorter the push stride will be so bend the knees around 110 deg and try that

  • In fact the strides here are longer and the turns are not so tight. The long focal length of the camera lens used distorts, i.e. flattens, the perspectice. The straigtaway I skate on is much longer than seems to be.

    That was one of the last outdoor days on wheels last year. I just tried to adjust the lean angles and to set down a bit earlier than usually. You are right knee angles should be near 110 degrees. When sprinting it's near 90-100 deg, in the pack it may be even 130 at times.

  • Don't you think about more horizontal amplitude to your heaad? opposite to direction of push.

  • I'm working on that. As I lean the head should move in line with the vertical (longitudinal) axis of the body. I have had difficulties in keeping the head and the upper body with the vertical line of the body when I am leaning. By keeping the whole body (and the head) straight with the body when leaning results in more weight directly on the skates. This gives more power in skating. I think the only way to get more horizontal amplitude (lateral movement) for my head is to lean more.

  • Would get some speed and less pain problems if you would get the set down of both feet in the same line which will also make it easyer to get your butt lower. Nice bonts! :)

  • Nice remark! My focus was not on getting the butt lower but on FALLING/moving the hips from  one side to another. Remember, the hips are the center of the weight of the entire body. The hips are most vital and even leading in moving and in skating... See how Diego Rosero or Joey Mantia are roller skating or how Sven Kramer is speed skating. You see, there is no particular set-down line. That's what I'm training. You are right my butt shoud be lower.

  • I accidentally removed your comments, sorry! .When setting down my skate beneath my nose I am in a vertical position. In a vertical position I can push but upwards. The vertical position does not move me at all. Skating vertically takes more energy than leaning to the side by using my hips or the general center of mass and the generous help of gravity. The pendulum-like motion from one side to another makes skating continuous. There is no first or second push. No push is stronger or weaker.

  • Your describing the cheat version of double push, it takes time for your muscles to adopt hence its hard when you start.

    Your pulling the leg behind you on the recovery. Your weight is not on your heels, i can see that because of the size of the carves. Thats why i said get your butt lower.

    To better understand the concept check this video: Bnuyp_Nu75U&feature=related

  • Bnuyp_Nu75U&feature=related is a great skater. Yann sets down outside his body, consequeces are remarkable footwork & upper body swings and leans. That's Yann's concept. He does it right but I try to learn an easier way.

    I have not said a word about the double push. I like more the single push. But I don't like the word "push". I like more words like to roll, to fall and to lean.

    I already said my focus was not the low butt; I tried more to lean and fall . I am always on my heels.

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