I can tell that the main part of the Russian Martial Arts, Systema, have aggressive movements. And with pistol guns, their movements changed to be a more defensive but cautious movements.
So far, I only know some basics of Karate and Filipino Martial Arts, Stick Fight. I wanted to learn mainly about Pressure Points, due that I am only 4 feet 9 inches tall and will NEVER grow another inch again.
I'm seeing alot of stuff that we do at a higher level in Kuk Sool Won, but in a more aggressive manner haha. Much respect to the guys who practise russian systema. All the best
Блин вы вообще видете что показываете, какой Русский маршал арт, что сдесь Русского ? Присмотритесь к каждому нападающему, не мастеру а терпиле, это полный бред, только самбо, это реальный маршал арт. А сдесь мультик.извените
@electronikita I think your confused all together, although Greeco-Roman wrestling did make partial contributions to Russian Martial arts. Education is a key learn. Unfortunately I can not post url's in these comments.
Fist-fight alonne was around in Russian region prior to formation of Kiev Rus.
Systema came adopter Russian Martial arts during Soviet times. It did not exist prior to communism.
History Geek specially a Russian and do not know own Slavic roots.
Many Western Nations might find this hard to believe however eastern countries such as Russia been mastering this for centuries. Endurance comes from soul and heart with, out use and recognition of spirituality one cannot use their full potential in physical combat.
@Arestaeus Any proof of centuries old tradition of this style of fighting? No? None? Of coarse there are non you silleh pants! Let those guys show up on a SAMBO tournament ( combat version/mma)
@electronikita What prove? You need prove of every war Russia had and training techniques since formation of Kiev Rus? This is rather idiotic to ask prove for. I'm not your nanny, dig into the books research Slavic history kid. Prior and during mid evil times, generations Slavic warriors were trained since childhood. How fortunate that I was born i Russia I was taught not to be ignorant:)
@Arestaeus . Perhaps i am not explaining myself clearly ( probably). Look at Japan's jiu-jitsu - centuries old, preserved style of fighting; or Chinese kung-fu - styles that wes trained through ages. We have written prove of these styles being developed a very long time ago. However there is no prove that systema was developed "centuries back" and was used by Rus' warriors. I think you are confusing Sparta with Rus btw=))))
Systema adopted Russian Martial arts during Soviet times. Systema did not exist prior to communism, however Russian Martial arts did. Communism is part of the reason why records of Russian Martial arts are hard to retrieve. I would be happy provide "poor lost soul" who claims to be a Russian. Some educational material of my Russian heritage, unfortunately links are not permitted here. Russkiy vsegda znaet kto on est:) Dokazivayut tolko 4yujakam.
@electronikita These guy's are some of the best on the planet, Considering that in early 19 hundreds thousands of Russia's elite officers along with scientists of Imperial Russia migrated to States and created basis for American marine/navy training/physical combat. Do you need prove of that too? Perhaps their graves in N.J. along with Russian Orthodox church, or their part in U.S. military? MMA is no place for "those guys". It would be unjust and unfair. Learn some history first.
@Arestaeus I am Russian, and whats more important, imma history geek. There was never centuries old tradition of martial arts schools/styles in Russia, never. You claim that "eastern countries such as Russia been mastering this for centuries." so give us prove or don't make such claims.
@electronikita Russia did not have one founder martial arts school, this is not Kung Fu or other eastern martial arts. Warriors were trained veracious of methods through out the country( Cities / villages), merging during specific times and places through out Russian history. It would be absurd for you to request of me to explain all of it, there's to much information and date to compile and process. Your welcome to try it, I can give you few examples:).
@electronikita I enjoy history my self, Russia has very unique history where number of different combat methods were developed, it's just to vague. Russia had over 500 years of war between 1300 and 1900, mostly on Russian territory. How could we defend our land from number of different troops with different tactics and combat techniques with out martial arts system? You see how silly you are? Perhaps you can be the first person to compile history of Russian martial arts:) Good luck:)
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fully certified by whom? what the fuck is systema anyway? my mum could hurt these guys. please don't tell me seriously that soldiers do this crap! and why is everyone so obsessed by self defence or Russian special forces anyway? during watching this vid I hit a low point in my life for sure. it was like watching a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob. come on now!! my 14 yr old cousin is tougher than these ladies and he is weak
spetsnaz is the best special pupose unit in the world and this art is proven ive been doing it for a year....you just a lil keyboard worrior aren't you
desertfox, didn't mean to hurt your feelings. that was a spontaneous response to the material presented. I am falling into the habbits of a keyboard warrior this week. I have one hand firmly grasping my firm member at all times. It's hard to get off on this stuff tho, the guy are wearing too many clothes. like come on!
Thats just a ad! The REAL Training is much harder believe me^^. You are getting hit and have to endure the pain for example. But basically its something thats slowly training your reflexes and muscles. Nobody can be a master in 1 day =).
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u love how russia has such a great martial called sambo... and then there is this bunch of crap... i wont believe any of this untill i see kimbo slice punch these people in the stomach
Bunch of Crap?? yeah, sure, just visit any officially certified FULL instructor in Europe, USA or anywhere...take a pair of classes and tell us your experience...
well, you do have israely krav maga, russian systema. this two self deffens have been for over 50 years on the field, i would recommend them. but than again. they are lots of diffrent krav magas and lots of diffrent systemas.
kimbo slice is a joke dude. and the fact is- this system is designed for professional soldiers, and anyone else who falls in the category ie: mercenaries, hitmen, bodygaurds, etc. you think you know better than russian special forces? ok, w/e.
problem bei dem sytem ist, dass es davon ausgeht der agressor hat keine körperspannung. niemand kann mit einer einfachen handrehung einen mann ca.90 kilo so aus dem gleichgewicht bringen der er in die knie geht und keine gegenwehr leistet. was hier so gloreich aussieht ist in vielen fachforen doch etwas umstritten.
allerdings magich mich nicht aus dem fenster lehnen und systema verurteilen. habe es nie trainiert.
Wenn du genau hinschaust, merkst du das sie bestimmte angelpunkte verwenden, also nutzen sie viel Physik und Mechanik in diesen Griffen, die effektiv sind.
bein systema geht es häufig auch darum, dem gegner durch gezielte, kurze angriffe (schlag auf den kehlkopf, solarplexus usw.) die körperspannung zu nehmen um anschließend hebel anzuwenden o.ä.
insofern hast du recht. aber systema wurde für die Spetsnaz entwickelt und wäre sicherlich nicht seit mehreren hundert jahren weitergegeben worden wenn es uneffektiv wäre.
ja war da auch mal um es mir "anzuschauen", aber die bestehen drauf das man immer mitmacht.
Naja nagut dacht ich mir ich bin 16 und es sind dort nur welche über 30 mit viel Erfahrung die machen "locker" mit mir und was krieg ich zu spüren den einen punch xD
Naja muss aber sagen ziemlich effektive kamfsport.
I joined a lesson in one of Valentine's students class last week.. Systema is one of the toughest things i've ever done. it's not like any other martial art. it's all about self defense...
Я занимался системой. Сектантство лечится только по ебальнику кулаком. Чем быстрее дадут пиюздюлей на улице, тем скорее потеряют иллюзии. А тренер - безответственный урод.
Compare with the Oriental counter-parts the moves seems a bit slower, with less emphasis on kicking, pretty much grab, spin and hit. But they sure only strike for fatals alright, if it's for real, it's going to hurt as hell
The guys in the clip are Valentine's students. I am not sure of their proffessions, but it is not uncommon to find people in Systema classes with a millitary, police or close protection background.
Glad you enjoyed the clip. Valentines students do more pistol work than we do in the UK.
2. As far as hitting, there seems to be a lot more opportunity for using proper mechanics and hitting a whole lot harder. These are strong, fit, and tought guys, and their hits are probably fairly hard. However, I honestly doubt the effect those strikes would have for a 130lb woman.
3. Didn't much care for the knife defenses, they look rather dangerous.
4. Any system looks good when demo'd on its own practitioners.
Find a Systema instructor near you, and see what it's about first hand. Get the "Strikes" DVD. I did not believe it until I saw it (and felt it) myself. I'm 6'1", 220 lbs, and I wouldn't go against a 130 woman who was good at Systema - seriously. What you think of as proper dynamics might be turned on its head if you studied Systema - loose and natural is much stronger than strained. The punches go *inside*, and HURT BAD. You can feel it when someone else gets hit!
Well if you fight someone that has a knife I'd say you just have to minimize the cuts you will get. Because the chance is you're getting cut one way or another.
no realistic! no attack! nothing
besha666 3 months ago
exelent
silvetea 3 months ago
@DiscreetAshashin
Really? Their movements LOOK aggressive and with their pistol guns their movements changed to be cautious but smoothly. Hmm, guess not. : /
lisabaptista71 6 months ago
I can tell that the main part of the Russian Martial Arts, Systema, have aggressive movements. And with pistol guns, their movements changed to be a more defensive but cautious movements.
So far, I only know some basics of Karate and Filipino Martial Arts, Stick Fight. I wanted to learn mainly about Pressure Points, due that I am only 4 feet 9 inches tall and will NEVER grow another inch again.
lisabaptista71 7 months ago
I'm seeing alot of stuff that we do at a higher level in Kuk Sool Won, but in a more aggressive manner haha. Much respect to the guys who practise russian systema. All the best
SoiledBoxers 11 months ago
The best fighters are the russian.
Respect frome Romania!
d3op 1 year ago
Funny stuff... ha ha ha...
Should be in a michael jakson video though...
Bunch of dancers
abus777 1 year ago
what's the track at 0:58 and 6:22 ?Please :)
Lupov90 1 year ago
what's the track at 0:58 and 6:22 ?Please :)
Lupov90 1 year ago
@Lupov90 IT'S SOUNDTRACK FROM "THE ROCK"
S3TPROGRAM 1 year ago
Блин вы вообще видете что показываете, какой Русский маршал арт, что сдесь Русского ? Присмотритесь к каждому нападающему, не мастеру а терпиле, это полный бред, только самбо, это реальный маршал арт. А сдесь мультик.извените
KankuPitbull 1 year ago
@KankuPitbull приходи на тренеровку, попробуй сам, проверь. Я так тоже раньше думал.
RUS76050 5 months ago
Great video i like this
dane991 1 year ago
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kindda looks like ninjutsu. I don't like the spinning they do with the pistol in systema, though
panplonada07 1 year ago
kindda looks like ninjutsu. I don't like the spinning they do with the pistol in systema, though
panplonada07 1 year ago
@panplonada07 It's very different from ninjitsu, but this video is only a little piece of systema
TheNickhis 1 year ago
@electronikita I think your confused all together, although Greeco-Roman wrestling did make partial contributions to Russian Martial arts. Education is a key learn. Unfortunately I can not post url's in these comments.
Fist-fight alonne was around in Russian region prior to formation of Kiev Rus.
Systema came adopter Russian Martial arts during Soviet times. It did not exist prior to communism.
History Geek specially a Russian and do not know own Slavic roots.
Arestaeus 1 year ago
Many Western Nations might find this hard to believe however eastern countries such as Russia been mastering this for centuries. Endurance comes from soul and heart with, out use and recognition of spirituality one cannot use their full potential in physical combat.
Arestaeus 1 year ago
@Arestaeus Any proof of centuries old tradition of this style of fighting? No? None? Of coarse there are non you silleh pants! Let those guys show up on a SAMBO tournament ( combat version/mma)
electronikita 1 year ago
@electronikita What prove? You need prove of every war Russia had and training techniques since formation of Kiev Rus? This is rather idiotic to ask prove for. I'm not your nanny, dig into the books research Slavic history kid. Prior and during mid evil times, generations Slavic warriors were trained since childhood. How fortunate that I was born i Russia I was taught not to be ignorant:)
Arestaeus 1 year ago
@Arestaeus . Perhaps i am not explaining myself clearly ( probably). Look at Japan's jiu-jitsu - centuries old, preserved style of fighting; or Chinese kung-fu - styles that wes trained through ages. We have written prove of these styles being developed a very long time ago. However there is no prove that systema was developed "centuries back" and was used by Rus' warriors. I think you are confusing Sparta with Rus btw=))))
electronikita 1 year ago
@electronikita "Correction"
Systema adopted Russian Martial arts during Soviet times. Systema did not exist prior to communism, however Russian Martial arts did. Communism is part of the reason why records of Russian Martial arts are hard to retrieve. I would be happy provide "poor lost soul" who claims to be a Russian. Some educational material of my Russian heritage, unfortunately links are not permitted here. Russkiy vsegda znaet kto on est:) Dokazivayut tolko 4yujakam.
Arestaeus 1 year ago
@electronikita These guy's are some of the best on the planet, Considering that in early 19 hundreds thousands of Russia's elite officers along with scientists of Imperial Russia migrated to States and created basis for American marine/navy training/physical combat. Do you need prove of that too? Perhaps their graves in N.J. along with Russian Orthodox church, or their part in U.S. military? MMA is no place for "those guys". It would be unjust and unfair. Learn some history first.
Arestaeus 1 year ago
@Arestaeus I am Russian, and whats more important, imma history geek. There was never centuries old tradition of martial arts schools/styles in Russia, never. You claim that "eastern countries such as Russia been mastering this for centuries." so give us prove or don't make such claims.
electronikita 1 year ago
@electronikita Russia did not have one founder martial arts school, this is not Kung Fu or other eastern martial arts. Warriors were trained veracious of methods through out the country( Cities / villages), merging during specific times and places through out Russian history. It would be absurd for you to request of me to explain all of it, there's to much information and date to compile and process. Your welcome to try it, I can give you few examples:).
Arestaeus 1 year ago
@electronikita I enjoy history my self, Russia has very unique history where number of different combat methods were developed, it's just to vague. Russia had over 500 years of war between 1300 and 1900, mostly on Russian territory. How could we defend our land from number of different troops with different tactics and combat techniques with out martial arts system? You see how silly you are? Perhaps you can be the first person to compile history of Russian martial arts:) Good luck:)
Arestaeus 1 year ago
What about family Martial Arts school ( or system) of Prince Galitsin? At least 400 years...
Or Russian and Ukrainian cossacks? Or professional warriors? You think Russia get 1/6th part of the world using Karate or Aikido?
MrAm11111 1 year ago
great vid! but can someone tell me the first song??? please !
maniak11111111 1 year ago
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fully certified by whom? what the fuck is systema anyway? my mum could hurt these guys. please don't tell me seriously that soldiers do this crap! and why is everyone so obsessed by self defence or Russian special forces anyway? during watching this vid I hit a low point in my life for sure. it was like watching a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob. come on now!! my 14 yr old cousin is tougher than these ladies and he is weak
blueingreentrain 2 years ago
spetsnaz is the best special pupose unit in the world and this art is proven ive been doing it for a year....you just a lil keyboard worrior aren't you
desertfox3638 2 years ago
desertfox, didn't mean to hurt your feelings. that was a spontaneous response to the material presented. I am falling into the habbits of a keyboard warrior this week. I have one hand firmly grasping my firm member at all times. It's hard to get off on this stuff tho, the guy are wearing too many clothes. like come on!
blueingreentrain 2 years ago
Thats just a ad! The REAL Training is much harder believe me^^. You are getting hit and have to endure the pain for example. But basically its something thats slowly training your reflexes and muscles. Nobody can be a master in 1 day =).
Magier777999 2 years ago
Oh and i´ll repeat this maybe again: This video is just a fucking ad and bad made I say.
Magier777999 2 years ago
erinnert mich voll an Wing Tzun ^^
Was ist eigentlich besser?
WT oder Systema?
superhel 2 years ago
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u love how russia has such a great martial called sambo... and then there is this bunch of crap... i wont believe any of this untill i see kimbo slice punch these people in the stomach
israel4ever100 2 years ago
kimbo slice is gay
dovydas2008 2 years ago 26
He still punches hard.
jekylfoot 2 years ago
Bunch of Crap?? yeah, sure, just visit any officially certified FULL instructor in Europe, USA or anywhere...take a pair of classes and tell us your experience...
I hope you enjoy the pain
Rusophilo 2 years ago 4
you cant compair sport with militery self deffens.
SovietSpetznaz 2 years ago 3
In your opinion sir, which do you think is more applicable in a real life battle?
xXkingHitsugayaXx 2 years ago
well, you do have israely krav maga, russian systema. this two self deffens have been for over 50 years on the field, i would recommend them. but than again. they are lots of diffrent krav magas and lots of diffrent systemas.
SovietSpetznaz 2 years ago
have you had training in either one?
xXkingHitsugayaXx 2 years ago
kimbo slice is a joke dude. and the fact is- this system is designed for professional soldiers, and anyone else who falls in the category ie: mercenaries, hitmen, bodygaurds, etc. you think you know better than russian special forces? ok, w/e.
XIPM3 2 years ago
Actually this 'bunch of crap' incorporates SAMBO, as well as many other martial arts into itself.
Spetsop 2 years ago
problem bei dem sytem ist, dass es davon ausgeht der agressor hat keine körperspannung. niemand kann mit einer einfachen handrehung einen mann ca.90 kilo so aus dem gleichgewicht bringen der er in die knie geht und keine gegenwehr leistet. was hier so gloreich aussieht ist in vielen fachforen doch etwas umstritten.
allerdings magich mich nicht aus dem fenster lehnen und systema verurteilen. habe es nie trainiert.
G3RM4N04K 2 years ago
@G3RM4N04K
Diese Technik ist schon relativ ausgekluegelt.
Wenn du genau hinschaust, merkst du das sie bestimmte angelpunkte verwenden, also nutzen sie viel Physik und Mechanik in diesen Griffen, die effektiv sind.
ArturFuchs 2 years ago
bein systema geht es häufig auch darum, dem gegner durch gezielte, kurze angriffe (schlag auf den kehlkopf, solarplexus usw.) die körperspannung zu nehmen um anschließend hebel anzuwenden o.ä.
insofern hast du recht. aber systema wurde für die Spetsnaz entwickelt und wäre sicherlich nicht seit mehreren hundert jahren weitergegeben worden wenn es uneffektiv wäre.
Fragezeichenskater 2 years ago
papochka, respekt tebe!!!)))
Veronika591 2 years ago
neploxo :)
high1991 2 years ago
wirklich n paar sehr sehr schöne szenen drin, in denen man gut sehen kann, wie leistungsfähig systema ist. habs selbst 2 jahre lang trainiert.
Frankhaus 2 years ago
ja war da auch mal um es mir "anzuschauen", aber die bestehen drauf das man immer mitmacht.
Naja nagut dacht ich mir ich bin 16 und es sind dort nur welche über 30 mit viel Erfahrung die machen "locker" mit mir und was krieg ich zu spüren den einen punch xD
Naja muss aber sagen ziemlich effektive kamfsport.
xXAtolekXx 3 years ago
ja das ist übelst was die da machen ich war selber gestern dort hab mir das "angeschaut"
und... ja starke rippenprällung xD
9valik9 3 years ago
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GAY !!!!
jbravo41 3 years ago
I wonder if they showed that to Nixon.
Soulblackman 3 years ago
Damn these fuckers train hard. :)
ElmyrVonGlass 3 years ago
krass, sieht geil aus
bastardsen 3 years ago
I joined a lesson in one of Valentine's students class last week.. Systema is one of the toughest things i've ever done. it's not like any other martial art. it's all about self defense...
dfmol 3 years ago
please...there are no set moves ffs and Dont relate this to akido both sides get pissed at eachother
madknight5 4 years ago 12
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Fangen88 2 years ago
Ah! Very sorry! Mis read it :D :D :D
TheUnitedFaith 4 years ago
aikido is like 9 centuries newer than systema.
pacsum 4 years ago
No. Aikido was created in 1920s.
TheUnitedFaith 4 years ago
Yes. You probably didn't understand me. Systema is 9 centuries older than aikido
pacsum 4 years ago
I think there are some moves from aikido..
2ni2ni 4 years ago
No. The most of this vid is made in Münster. Its a german city^^. Systema is a mayby different from aikido. I dont know because i never see Aikido.
Magier777999 3 years ago
Я занимался системой. Сектантство лечится только по ебальнику кулаком. Чем быстрее дадут пиюздюлей на улице, тем скорее потеряют иллюзии. А тренер - безответственный урод.
zubo55555 4 years ago
Жизнь прожитая зря. И зачем я только боксом и карате занимался + борбы немного. Ведь все так легко, а я то лапоть(((
Real shit. I'm shamed for my country each time i see in video description "russian sistem, spetsnaz".
IF YOU WANT TO SEE REAL RUSSIAN FIGHT SEE "KOI" or "Hokutoki".
zubo55555 4 years ago
Hokutoki doesn't sound or look russian? or did you mean fighting as in just a match between 2 russian in anything?
Deke1980 4 years ago
retards
diogogabiyanko 4 years ago
Отлично теска отжигает 8)))
CrackedFile 4 years ago
systema gets in deep and heavy it feels like someone hitting you with a sledge hammer multible times feel the pain. It hurts soo good
nightstalkersasslt 4 years ago
Looks like some kind of fucked-up Ballet. That a Russian thing ...right?
tfouellet 4 years ago
´like the video, keep on rockin.
nice greetings from systema vienna !
sitzhutzfetz 4 years ago
Compare with the Oriental counter-parts the moves seems a bit slower, with less emphasis on kicking, pretty much grab, spin and hit. But they sure only strike for fatals alright, if it's for real, it's going to hurt as hell
hardman666 4 years ago
Valentine is Vladimir's brother.
The guys in the clip are Valentine's students. I am not sure of their proffessions, but it is not uncommon to find people in Systema classes with a millitary, police or close protection background.
Glad you enjoyed the clip. Valentines students do more pistol work than we do in the UK.
RMANW 5 years ago
is Valentine Vasiliev a parent of Vladimir?
also, are the guys featured professionals/bodyguards or civilians?
I loved the part where the guy moved and showed "stances" and movements with the gun :)
thanks
Fangen88 5 years ago
1. Like some of the gun work.
2. As far as hitting, there seems to be a lot more opportunity for using proper mechanics and hitting a whole lot harder. These are strong, fit, and tought guys, and their hits are probably fairly hard. However, I honestly doubt the effect those strikes would have for a 130lb woman.
3. Didn't much care for the knife defenses, they look rather dangerous.
4. Any system looks good when demo'd on its own practitioners.
Salute
bujuts 5 years ago
If a punch moves opponent 1" it can do its job. Systema works the structure and the focus should not be on the affect of any single point of contact.
SarasotaMark 5 years ago
bujuts,
Find a Systema instructor near you, and see what it's about first hand. Get the "Strikes" DVD. I did not believe it until I saw it (and felt it) myself. I'm 6'1", 220 lbs, and I wouldn't go against a 130 woman who was good at Systema - seriously. What you think of as proper dynamics might be turned on its head if you studied Systema - loose and natural is much stronger than strained. The punches go *inside*, and HURT BAD. You can feel it when someone else gets hit!
StopMoColorado 5 years ago
where did you go & check out his system ?
jamesbolston 4 years ago
Well if you fight someone that has a knife I'd say you just have to minimize the cuts you will get. Because the chance is you're getting cut one way or another.
Khorney 5 years ago